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larry: hello, welcome to kudlow i'm larry kudlow, day 12 of the barbaric hamas dattack on israel, evidence shows that the rocket strike on hospital yesterday was caused by a missile aligned with hamas. jonathan hunt is live from los angeles with details. this is quite a story. reporter: yes. so the question is do we know with 100% certainty the source of this explosion. the answer is no, we don't. we might never be 100% certain, given the fog of war. but two points to make. president biden was confident enough to weigh in say he believed it was islamic jihad. that was based on u.s. intelligence analysis. and hamas while claiming israel carried out the strike has offered no

physical evidence of a strike, one would imagine they would be quick to parade pieces of shrapnel from israeli munitions if they had such evidence, israel has offered satellite video and audio evidence they say proves it was a rocket fired by islamic jihad in gaza, saying that the rocket malfunctioned fell on the hospital, fully loaded with fuel, and that is what sparked the huge explosion. israel released what officials say audio of a conversation twe between hamas and islamic jihad members discussing the misfire. >> and as i mentioned

president biden after meeting with israeli prime minister netanyahu today, said u.s. intelligence has also analyzed the evidence and as a result he, president biden, agrees with the israeli assessment. >> i was outraged and saddened by the enormous loss of life yesterday at the hospital in gaza, based on the information we've seen today it appears to be the result of an air rant rocket fired in gaza. >> there is no discernible trait crater there. what you see are a lot of charred vehicles that would back up the israeli claim it was a fireball, rather than a huge israeli missile creating the crater we would expect, we have not seen video to back the claims of

hundreds of dead, we see several people loaded into ambulances but not hundreds, these are things you would expect hamas to show if they had the evidence. i'm not a munitions expert or on the ground there, but i have been in gaza, many times over the last 20 years, i have witnessed the aftermath of perhaps dozens of israeliary strikes, looking at that video, what we've seen so far, on the face of it, it does not bear the hallmarks of an israeli airstrike. larry: jonathan, quick. some reports suggest it didn't hit the hospital but the parking lot. and as you suggested. the casualty rate is way away lower than originally reported. reporter: yes, it would -- from the evidence that we can see, larry, i have to emphasis that from the evidence that we can see and have seen, it doesn't seem that the hamas claim of 500

or so dead has any proof to it at-this-point. as you look at the parking area outside of the hospital, you don't either see any pancaked building. if it were an israeli airstrike the building would have been pancaked down on itself, we're not seeing it in the video. larry: all right jonathan hunt thank you so much, great reporting. >> just a brief riff, we have senator tom cotton waiting. janet yellen's treasury department announced u.s. issued sanctions aimed at disrupting funding on the hamas terrorist group. sanctions include 10 senior members and financial facilitators of the hamas terrorist group and roughly a thousand individuals and entities connected to iran an terror financing, the 10

individuals in gaza, qatar, turkey, algeria and sudan. sanctions struck hamas, hezbollah and other terror organizations in middle east, label them part of a massive financial network. then according to treasury press release. janet yellen says, the united states is taking swift and decisive action to target hamas as financiers and facilitators following its bru brutal massacre of israeli civilians, including children. my first response, okay. that is good. better late than never. my second is bologna, this is a defensive back peddling maneuver after across the board criticism, levels at damda administration it has not beefed up sanctions and defunded iran

or executed the iran ran sanctions in years. this is the biden administration running scared. trying to blow smoke at everyone, sanctioning thousands of people. almost like sanctions no one. as one country, not on the list of sanctions today. iran. last week janet yell ep said yellen said iranian sanctions have never been relaxed, but the facts speak otherwise, over last 3 years iran oil revenues, and all of them, have skyrocketed. the maximum sanction campaign during the donald trump years, that bankrupted iran, and stopped their oil production sales, has been abandoned by the bidens, that is what the facts say. also, i asked, does iran not qualify as a financial

facilityier? really, i would say they are the financial facilitator. you know, if the bidens got serious, about maximum economic banking energy and business sanctions on iran and irk ar iranian ship. shipments and individuals. then the money would dry up. if president biden truly wants to totally support israel, first up he should let the idf do about what it is going to do and bankrupt iran. through serious sanction enforce. i don't want to make it any harder than it needs to be, that is my riff. we turn to senator tom cotton of arkansas. take a listen.

>> all right so after the news report on the hospital attack, which seems to be now pretty clear, that came from hamas, senator cotton welcome back. are you satisfied now? you heard all of the evidence, i suppose. seems that it came from the terrorists, you have concerns about it? >> i was satisfied yesterday in immediate aftermath much israel does not strike civilian targets and not hospitals without clear military necessity. that is the tactics that hamas uses, once the israeli defense forces released video of terrorists in gaza firing rockets next to the hospital and the intercepts, corroborated by american intelligence, agency, there is no question that terrorists in gaza were responsible for the deaths

at the hospital. as if often the case, they use hospitals and schools and mosqueses as military targetters on they have total ingive defer def-- there is no question, that there are two sides of war crimes. hamas is committing war crimes on israel and war crimes in gaza. >> you know, i was going to ask. hamas has a whole history of this rocket launchers, right next to schools. hospitals, and so forth. churches, you know mosques, the disregard for civilians. and there is also some talk senator that buried under the hospital, they have done this with schools they have various armaments and munitions, they hide them there in the you know sensitive civilian areas. >> it cou wouldn't surprising there is a

history of hamas and other terrorists dedicated to destruction of israel using most sensitive civilian sites like hospitals, schools and mosques to fire weapons use for command and control, they are when used in that way legitimate military targets, but this was the gross indeference to life that terrorists in gaza that, that resulted in rockets that were meant to be shot to israel to kill jews that killed many of their own people. larry: senator cotton, you have been a strong spokesperson. immediate deportation of any foreign nationals that support hamas, i don't know how far it goes, whether hamas or other terrorist groups, can you tell us about that? can this be done by executive order? >> it is not legislation, the law already makes

support for terrorist activity or groups grounds for inadd misbility, or bedeportation, american citizen has a first amendment right to make a fool of himself or engaged in morally depraved speech but no foreigner here does. we should not allow people advocates for hamas. to stay here another day, joe biden and secretary of homeland security mayorkas should take immediate action to start finding these people who are advocating and defending hamas and remove them immediately, we would not have allowed this in cold war, we should not allow it now. larry: speaking of the fifth column, would you include other terrorist groups or all of other terrorist groups? >> of course. we should never allow someone who advocates for

terrorism or terrorists in this country, throughout the cold war support for communism or communist party was ground for inadd misbility or deportation from the country, same should be the case for advocacy for any terroristing orgation or group. larry: this is -- this is senator, what trump did, a couple years back? >> he took various actions to protect the nation from terrorism. imposing bands on travel from countries that have known terrorism problems for which there is no government for which we can vet the back grounds of people entering. we're offering -- using this kind of statutory authority to prevent terrorist sympathizers from entering, and he helped close our border to ensure that we didn't have potential terrorisms in the country, right now we have no clue the risks that we might have coming across the southern border. larry: so, senator, let's go

back to the middle east problem. the administration today announced a whole series of sanctions on hamas, hamas leaders, i think some of this go to qatar. turkey and so forth. you know, i just think, sir, i am okay with sanctions hamas, tough sanctions. maximum sanctions, but they left out a country that has escaped sanctions in the last couple years, i guess i'll just say it iran. why is it? they are going after hamas, okay, fine. i'm good with that but why don't t they -- reimpose tough maximum sanctions on iran, when is the master planner, i don't get it. >> you are right about iran's role in supporting hamas, hamas would not exist

without iran bankrolling it, training its fighters and so forth. it is not just that they don't impose new sanctions on iran, today, believe it or not, is the day that multilateral sanctions on iran's missile program ecoe-- expired earned failed nuclear deal. this day, they are using to help russia kill ukrainians, expire, because joe biden even after this massacre in israel, would not reimpose those multi lateral sanctions it would be an indictment of 11 years of the failed obama-biden iran policy. larry: did you see a antony blinken in state department put out a language thing about sanctions on -- long thing about sanction on ballistic

missile, and united nations inspection, they have reupped it today the last day, are you satisfied with it? does it work? >> no, not at all, the sanctions they are talking about are national sanctions that can impose, there is nothing to stop those nations to include the biden administration from changing their tune later, the sanctions that have been imposed under nuclear deal at united nations were thing that could have bound sanctions worldwide against iran, i do do not accept it as satisfactory, this is another example as president biden has emboldened iran in thinking they could get way with backing iran. larry: can there be hearings on this?

this is a huge issue. i don't think that most people were aware. we discovered it a couple days ago, i have asked some of your colleagues, this is huge. sanctioning ballistic missiles, and senator, going back on iran ran economic and energy sanctions. is there some way to have some kind of bipartisan, right now democrats are talking good game. some kind of a bipartisan reimposition of maximum primary and secondary sanctions -- iran, it is the ballistic missile sanctions and the economic and energy and business sanctions, iran is the culprit. hamas, yes, but iran stands behind everything, as you just said. >> unfortunately congress, bipartisan fashion could throw the kitchen sink at iran but this president biden refused to enforce them, they are not effective, we have sanctions

in place on iran for sale of oil yet biden administration has not enforced them. enriching iran to the tune of tens of billions of dollars, and guess where most of that oil goes? it goes to china. our number one enemy. this all gets back to president biden's continuation of barack obama's failed iran policy. which has done nothing but to embolden iran to spread a campaign of terror in middle east. larry: senator tom cotton appreciate your time and point of view. >> thank you. larry: all right there you have it coming up. president biden's wheels up on his way to united states, so, is it time for the idf invasion of gaza on the ground? we'll ask israeli special ops veteran aaron cohen when kudlow returns.

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larry: so president biden's wheels are up, he spent less than 24 hours in israel, now the question is, is it the time for the idf ground invasion from gaza, joining us now aaron cohen. welcome back.

i mean, maybe i'm wrong. i think idf held up on the ground for the meeting and humanitarian aid, my question is how quickly do you think that ground assault will begin? >> it will begin as quickly as it has to. right now i really don't think that politics or politicking is going to have big of an affect as people think. i say that these operations are in our hands, we need to make sure we have got all of the information to be able to move forward with as last time we spoke two major things unpacking, we have hostages, they be in tunnels tunnels are complicated. it takes time to get in information, diffuses that intelligence and listening to thousands of phone calls our pegasus system, we're

listening everywhere, in the world. it is a unconventional operation, a custom-built plan. we need that. we have the entire strip of gaza contained we're not in a rush, the hostages are the issue, at any moment they could start being killed, when they get fired at, if they are alive, i don't have that information we have to do act immediately, as far as getting gunfights in tunnels with 40 thousand hamas terrorists, shut the power off, tire them out, tired terrorists don't shoot as straight. we'll take our time, if they want to tie politics into that to make it seem that u.s. is talking and negotiating that is cool, i don't get into politics, that is not interesting to me, but it's okay to buy time it -- time is a friend

of counterterrorism with nonhostage related ponce -- responses could take it down, and tire out hamas. larry: you are the guide. i know nothing. i appreciate what you are saying. a related subject, all this talk, joe biden and antony blinken, extracted a promise from prime minister netanyahu and his war cabinet about humanitarian assistance. always sounds like a great idea, but aaron, here is what i hear, humanitarian assistance whether across line egyptians 100 trucks and crossing at r rafah. that stuff is all run by hamas, they run the ministries and steals from the united nations. the united nations it a tweet up that said hamas was stealing stuff, and diesel

fuel and stuff, they took the tweet down. i'm worried, i am for humanitarian aid, i would love to see the idf run humanitarian aid so it may get to palestinians and other civilians in need humanitarian aid, hamas? i don't think, what do you think. i think tha that a scam. >> i think it is too. larry: good. >> i think that a lot of talk and posturing there is a lot of double standards with israel, everyone was with us for a couple days now we're talking about palestinians and hospital that was hit last night, and i can explain it to everyone, because we don't have to selimmages we saw -- the images we saw, hamas is the terror group, they will use that humanitarian situation to create mortar or, they will use -- more terror, they will use it as a shield, we're not allowing

nonsense talk gibberish to affect our operational goals right now. anything that is going to affect our ability to keep our soldiers safe going to an aggressive fight in tunnel its will be bloody and messy, we not playing around the gloves are off, prepare and plan. larry: yes, sir, i'm thrilled you agree about the humanitarian, i'm telling me that, i'm dining out on this aaron cohen agreed with me. >> we park our cars in the same garage. larry: you are terrific. >> appreciate thank you. larry: thank you. >> coming up more on latest on ground and israel with john roberts from jerusalem, and former israeli ambassador to u.s. michael will weigh in. still ahead, we have kellyanne conway, she will talk with me about donald

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larry: joining us live from jerusalem john roberts. reporter: good to see you, the question in israel s what comes next with president biden flying back to the united states. he had a series of meetings with benjamin netanyahu, addressed american people and said that the united states stands fully behind israel. he also wants to make sure humanitarian aid gets to palestinians in gaza. and the fact that no aid has been getting to them. 100 million dollars in u.s. taxpayer funds he plans to commit to, that big question, will there be a ground war?

i spoke with someone earlier, here in israel, who agrees with aaron cohen there is no rush to get in on the ground in the hornets nest in gaza city, probably better for idf to continue hitting hamas targets. what happens with hezbollah, on northern border is another big question as well. there has been skirmishes over the last 12 days. small arms fires, some anti-tank missiles fired and a few projectives, two kilometer area in northern border has been evacuated. does hezbollah go in and reach with the deep silo and start firing rockets at israel. the general that i spoke with believes that hezbollah does not have immediate interest in igniting a full

out war with israel, but it does not want to be seen as just sitting back and letting hamas twist in the wind, they are keeping the idf busy in north. now with that hospital last night, looking according to bulk of evidence that president biden has seen and u.s. developed, a malfunctioning islamic jihad rocket that calls to question how many newsi organizations and organizations like u.n., immediately took hamas, a terroristi organization at its word and pounced on israel, there will be a lot of naval gazing over that. they must be telling the truth. larry: john. you know the answer to that. i know the answer to that. we don't have enough time, a new segment. you come back home we'll

talk about that answer. i'm saying that answer is too easy. john roberts you are the best of the best. john and his coanchor v vsandra smith. bringing in michael oren good to see you, former u.n. ambassador. you told john roberts about maybe israelis should go to lebanon get hezbollah first. i must say that is a contrary point of view but i am dying to hear it. >> a couple contrary views, not bad shaking up conventional wisdom. an article that i published in h he hebrew press a week ago, hamas is trapped, they are not going

anywhere. we could leave them for a later stage, hezbollah, has 15 times as many rockets as hamas has, many are accurate long range, bigger payloads than the rockets. hezbollah has unli unlimited supply lines and a trained group of terrorist when is larger than hamas' group, they have been killing hundreds of thousands of syrians the last 10 years, they are very adept at murder. they will do at our population every bit atrocities that hamas did to population in south, wire at maximum mobilization. idf called up 360 thousand reservists in addition to standing arm of 125 thousand, that is about size of army that went into iraq with coalition in 2003. we may never get it this level again, we have two

u.s. aircraft carriers and fighter groups off of the coast of lebanon. and hezbollah, hezbollah has massed this arsenal to use it, it will use it at the time of its choosing, there is a growing conventional wisdom among expert when israel is on verge of collapsing hamas, the last of the leaders are trapped in their headquarters under a hospital. that is when hezbollah will act, and hezbollah will not be able to sit by while sunni terrorists take on the jews and shiite terrorists do nothing. that is the question -- do we wait for them to fire first? or do we take the initiative? there is a counter argument by smashing hamas we may deter hezbollah. but i have to say, we my not. and as we have seen, the terrorists don't actually

act according to you know western logic and benefit and the cost benefit analysis it different for them. we don't know. it is a huge, huge gamble. larry: michael, i don't want to agree or disagree. i are the expert. i just -- only question that i have, are you convinced if the idf stays at gaza in south after them on the ground and so on, do you think hezbollah, iran, which is what really asking, do you think iran and hezbollah want a full-scale hezbollah invasion of israel? >> i don't think that word want is relevant it is what they may be forced to do. larry: or would israel force them into it. the back part. >> i don't think even israel would fi force them, their own sick world will

force them into it the sick world, hamas is sunni and hezbollah and iran are shiite it is about dominance of muslim world, you cannot dominate that muslim world if sunnis do all of the fighting in return for -- fight. >> michael oren, i want you to read the piece, good to see you by the way, thank you for coming on, hope you come back soon. all right, joining me now right here on set, the great kellyanne conway. president of ka consulting, look, we're wall to warriors, but you read trump's op-ed piece, middle east is blown up, it has blown up.

no one knows how it will end or be fought. but it has flown up. when trump left it was a peaceful region, iran was bankrupt, we have abraham accords, gulf stating making peace with israel, you move embassy to jerusalem. in two and a half years biden undid the entire center of peaceful gravity that trump laid down in the middle east, that is astonishing. >> it is, and everyone sees what happens there are consequences to action and inaction. i thought that most important piece of president trump's op-ed in "newsweek," were him talking about when he left office iran was depleted and desperate to make deals, it is causation because. from day one of the trump administration the president said, to iran, you are not doing business with us. and warned countries like china, if you buy oil from

iran you will not do business with the united states of america. they were desperate for cash exand deals biden came in by may of 2021, reversed that iran has been stock piling oil water, worth to be 80 million. mill billion. >> every day,. >> i want people tonged, you are watching -- i want people to understand, you are watching this. biden spite fully came in and killed keystone pipeline jobs in the u.s., but he is allowing iran to produce oil, and they are funding this war, i want to point ought out new polls, highest disapproval of biden and second highest. but most, s 63% disapproval of t economy in policy and in the foreign policy. president, the lack of trust and faith people have in joe

biden and his ability to be strong is costing him but also costing us, we all believe in strength through peace. but strength also must come through strength, that is what people see, i hear about moral clarity, there is i'm moral clarity from hamas and terrorists, and a lot of mora more equivlength from their apologists here. larry: we have let iran get walker with murder, and yellen said we did not loosen up the sanctions, they did. >> they did, one of their priorities. larry: i have cited numbers every day this week, why do they lie to us, likelying on the economy and inflation. >> they hope because they are not named trump you will believe them. they are so clouded by their derange ment toward one man who made that region peaceful, they think -- look at jake sullivan before the

attack, of october 7 said there has not been this much peace and quiet in region, top officials, who are in charges our security are saying. >> peace and quiet. in that region. almost three years ago. >> yes.. >> there will be again, this will cost biden. >> kellyanne conway i'm sorry, we're -- >> we're tight. >> i'm fine. >> thank you. larry: coming up senators, demanding answers, on iranian cut outs. iranian spies infiltrating biden administration. senator bill hagerty is one of them, then where is chuck schumer and democrats on bipartisan bill reimposing sanctions on iran. we will ask senator kevin cramer, i am kudlow, we can get back to peace in the middle east. with strength. kellyanne is right.

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or spy ring or influence ring. you have been looking at this, robert mali in state different lost his clearance no one will tell us why. defense department assistance secretary for special operations what is up with this? >> it is is an iranian influence operation that is inside of the biden administration. we have our special envoy for iran under biden, person responsible for negotiating the jcpoa under obama he lost his security clearance and under federal investigation and tied to this initiative you mentioned now chief of staff at department of defense. she is you know one of those members he put into dod . this is deeply concerning. thank rob mali for this.

today united nations sanctions on iran all epowerred. this was negotiated by rob mali, biden administration aflewallowed them to expire. we should small cap back every san shaw sanction we have on iran. >> a key point. senator kramer. the tris department biden announcing they will sanction a thousand people hamas and at any ar and syria, that is great, they on defensive, they lifted or relaxed the maximum sanctions on iran, iran is the financier.

senator cramer is there a chance that democrats the join with republicans in senate and get something done to reimpose the sanctions on iran. i'm not worried about hamas sanctions. >> iran and a lot of other partners. this has to be primary and secondary, senator hagerty could speak to this well, he went to floor last night requesting consent on iran sanctions relief act that would require all sanction relief to come to the congress before they would be en acted. and democrats objected on that and senator cotton with a request yesterday. democrats objected to that, that would have frozen that 6 billion we often talk about, not a great deal of money but this is a significant symbol of you know highway depraved we have become, i was hopeful there will be bipartisan support. larry: to follow-up, how can democrats say they are 100%

for israel. everyone is going to israel. and not want to impose maximum sanctions on iran? i don't get it. >> i think -- >> i think that -- >> hate oil production. >> go ahead. >> mr. kevin kramer. >> they hate domestic oil production they refer that iran and v venezuela produce it and sell it to our adversaries with another poor environmental records.. >> mr. hagerty are you as pessimistic, joni ernst was on show last week with a bipartisan group and thought someone could be done, but senator hagerty, you think you are not getting anything on t the sanctions. >> we is a this shallow set of sanctions, sanctions hamas they are primary sanctions, they will have no

impact, the same that biden administration allowed to expire on a day, that we worked on, you wall i was ambassador to japan, we got the japanese to stop buying iranian crude, they beat, they matter, that is what biden administration should be doing. they are doing nothing. this is just a smoke screen and joe biden's appearance in israel was a photo op. larry: senator, that is bad this iranian cut out group in state and defense department is bad. there was peace, i was talking with kellyanne, there was peace in the most 3 years -- middle east 3 years ago now it is blown up. >> there is no question, it began with iran nuclear deal, which was an obama initiative. they supported. president trump got rid of they got it bad, they are trying to do it quietly, this is disgust nothing thank you, gentleman, we appreciate it. and your point of view.

>> i'm kudlow we'll be right back with the last word.

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