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♪ ♪ larry: hello, folks. welcome to "kudlow," i'm larry kudlow. so joe biden will deliver a prime time address tonight on israel and other matters. what do we think he's going to say? joining us live from jerusalem is our great friend john roberts, so what are you picking up and what are you thinking? >> well, the president a's going to ask for money, that's one thing, $100 billion in support for ukraine and israel. you know, larry, if the rumblings on the ground are correct, this conflict could get bigger very quickly, maybe in the coming next two or three days. if and the one thing that israel is really going to need is a resupply for the iron dome. and that's what the pentagon's been talking about and briefing this afternoon, that's what president biden was talking about. because if this opens up a second front from hezbollah in
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ebb lo -- lebanon, there could very soon be hundreds of rockets, many of them precision-guided, raining down on israel. and without that iron dome system fully up and operational and fully resupplied, that could spell trouble for a lot of people. back in 2006 when israel last had a big war with hezbollah, they were all dumb rockets, they would fly maybe, you know, within a quarter of a mile or half a mile of where they were intended to go. they were hitting very randomly, and hezbollah managed to get in a couple of lucky shots on tel aviv but didn't -- sorry, a couple of shots on haifa but didn't get further south than that. now it has precision-guided rockets that could be in tel aviv inside about a minute and 15 seconds from the launch, so that's why the iron dome is beginning to have to be fully supplied and up and operational. i get a sense, larry, because the defense minister was with front-line troops in recent
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hours saying -- [audio difficulty] if you haven't seen the inside of gaza, you will soon, that a ground operation may be imminent. we talked with somebody on the front lines back on either monday or tuesday, and we said when do you think the ground war will start, and that person said probably toward the end of this week. not saying it's going to happen, larry, but the tea leaves seem to be indicating something is going to happen there. and then with israel amassing as much armor as it has, tanks and self-propelled huh witsers on -- howitzers on the northern front or potential northern front, you get an idea something may be happening there as well, larry. we're all kind of holding our breath to see what goes on. larry: you know, john -- first of all, that's very interesting on the iron dome support but also the 2-3 days. i know it's it's not a clear forecast, but it's interesting that you say that. john, one other point. of the $100 billion everybody expects tonight announced by the president, the bulk of it, i think $60 billion some odd, is
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targeted for ukraine. now, i don't know if you're hearing that if your sources. from your sources. i won't say it's odd, i understand the administration is pushing for ukraine, but the israeli things seems more urgent and more intense after the president went back and forth to israel and so forth. any thoughts on that? >> it does seem more urgent. obviously, ukraine is a bigger country and, therefore, the need in terms of american dollars may be bigger. but the need here in israel is extremely urgent9 particularly if israel is about to get involved in a who two-front war. and then you see the entire region is becoming a tinder box, so you're going to have to try to keep a lid on that as a well. and the one thing that everybody i talked to here in israel says the president has to do is talk very tough in terms of detenderness with iran in mind -- deterrence with iran in mind. all the president has said so far is anybody who's thinking of getting involved, third parties
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or outside actors, don't, don't, don't. the language may need to be ramped up if he hopes to keep iran out of this. [laughter] yeah. >> that said though -- larry: yeah. >> that said, though, i've also heard some conflicting opinions from a guy here in israel when used to be the chief of the national security council who doesn't believe that this is going to open up into a two-front war. so varying opinions here. the forecast is rather cloudy. can't tell exactly which which way this is going to go. but it does seem that there's some sort of imminent possibility of this heating up. larry: all right. john roberts, thank you ever so much. great stuff. a lot to chew on there. folks, be sure to catch john and his co-anchor sandra smith on "america reports" weekdays, 1 p.m. eastern here on fox news. all eyes on president joe biden tonight as he addresses the nation regarding the israeli war. the president should probably also speak on ukraine, maybe roam around the world because
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there's so many hot spots. you've got the russia-ukraine war, or the israeli war, you've got potential china conflict with taiwan and, of course, you still have a completely open border with mexico. let us not forget that. i'm going to con to praise mr. biden thus far and his unequivocal support for israel including the so-called iron dome israeli defense as john roberts just discussed. biden deserves credit here. but i am am not going to give him credit for forcing israel to accept $100 million in so-called humanitarian aid because in gaza humanitarian aid is hamas aid. even worse, it's u.s. taxpayer-funded hamas aid. hamas cares not one wit about civilian palestinians. the terrorists are going to take food, fuel, munitions, war, whatever they want for their own purposes. the idf are running that operation, i might think differently, but they won't. the idf will bomb hamas when they see the terrorists
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pilfering the aid. that's going to be a very tough story. nor do i give president biden any credit for reuping iranian ballistic missile sanctions even though he and blinken claim to be monitoring now russia, china and, hang on a minute, venezuela. going to be back for that one in just a moment. but the point is, restrictions or even snapping back has no real meaning because the bidens following on the heels of the obamas never enforced the sanctions in the first place. you cannot appease iran. you cannot integrate iran into civilized middle eastern life because the iranian government is made up of cutthroat terrorists who sponsor, finance and plan terrorism throughout the region and the rest of the world. there is no hamas without iran. there is no hezbollah without iran. donald trump bankrupted iran, and you didn't hear a peep out of them.
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joe biden has refinanced iran, and now the middle east is blowing up again. relative peace and prosperity during the trump years has been replace filed massive warfare now under biden. it's a pity, it's a shame. all right. here's biden defending israel, which is super good, but here's biden still in denial over the role of iran, which is super bad. how this is going to turn out, i don't know. i have faith in the idf. that's my trump card. but now, let me turn to america's hemisphere, our own backyard. the bidens are loosening sanctions on venezuela? really? huh? this is the incredible story. it's a communist government. it's backed by cuban military and secret service. its ruler, maduro, he says he's going to have free elections. utter nonsense. finish complete b.s -- complete b.s. how can the bidens be taken in by such a phony promise?
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it's a ruse. bidens are loosening restrictions on oil and gas. really? here we go again. turning to another socialist tick today to have for a few more barrels of oil to make up for biden's domestic war against fossil fuels. you know, this is absolutely off the charts, utterly incredible. finally, as john is roberts reported, everybody expects biden to announce $100 million -- $100 billion in foreign aid for ukraine, taiwan, israel and the southern border. at this point nobody really knows how that package is going to be partitioned. you know, the world has just turned topsy-turvy under joe biden. his weakness is breeding even more weakness around the globe. he is trying a patchwork fix. my guess is it's doubtful that this is going to succeed. that's my riff, and we are going to chew on it. we've got a distinguished panel.
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joining me to talk about biden's address, liz peek, syndicated columnist, fox news contributor, brian brenberg, cohost of "the big money show," my fave. and we also have kash patel, former deputy director of national intelligence and chief of staff for the defense department. welcome to all of you. i will start on set. liz, i'm going -- you know, i am giving biden credit where credit is due. his rhetoric and i think now with these musicians and resupply to john roberts, he's backing israel. he is backing israel. he's backing the iron dome, okay? i've got to give him credit. but at the same time, i'm going to say that biden prompted this in the first lace by -- police by allow -- place by allowing iran to refinance and to plan and to plot. >> yeah. larry: hamas is an iranian creature, pure and simple. >> and it's not as though iran
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hasn't sent plenty of warnings that they're not onboard with becoming a member of the family of nations. since biden took office, there have been 80 attacks 8-0 attacks on u.s. military personnel in iraq and syria. we have counterattacked four times. that is a weak response, it is typical of biden. sort of do not quite enough to actually make an a impression. 80 attacks on on our people. what are we doing about that? why are we not learning from that that they don't want to make friends? to your point, when trump left office, iran had gone from $122 billion in foreign reserves the 15. since biden became president, that has gone up by one-third. why? because oil exports have gone up. this is a willful, as you pointed, enriching of iran's coffers, ask it's really inexcusable. larry: this is something senator tom cotton pointed out yesterday, the biggest chunk of those sales -- >> china. getses cheap oil as a result.
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larry: which is really quite remarkable. brian, i wanted you to weigh in on this. look, again, biden defending israel, terrific stuff. >> up. larry: but unless you deal with iran -- john roberts, this is so interesting to me, john roberts who's a brilliant political analyst. i really got to know him when he was covering the white house years ago when i was working there. he talked about how the bidens never seem to finger iran, and iran stands at the back of all this chaos and tumult, and they have been appeased by the biden administration, i'm sorry to say. >> yeah. well, it's hard to confront maybe your biggest failure in office, and iran might be his biggest failure. he shouldn't even do tonight's speech if he's not going to make it about iran, because what's the point? you're right, he's been great in terms of affirming israel's right to fight back. but he's got to go to step two and step three, and that is what are you going to do about iran, what are you going to do about the money that they're funneling all over the mideast. not just to hamas, but hezbollah
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in the north. if he doesn't do that, then all of those groups and iran think to themselves, he's not serious. he is not serious about this. and if they don't think he's serious, then they're going to try for the worst here because they know it's their moment. larry: kash patel, i'm going to hope you're out there someplace. we'll get a cam camera on you -- coming to us from las vegas. kash, what do you think the odds are, i mean, this was something john roberts highlighted in his news report earlier, john's a somewhere smart guy. -- very smart guy. what are the odds that joe biden will say something directly, by name, about iran? and to iran? >> it's great to be with you. and whether president biden says something about iran or not, the iranian regime has made up their mind. they have launched a world war. they are using their proxy forces against america's number one ally. they did that because they don't fear and respect the current
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commander in chief. so president biden can go out tonight and give an obama-style soliloquy about how iran is the number one state sponsor of terror and our number one enemy, but for the last two and a half years they have deprioritized iran, allowed their nuclear programs to flourish and permitted -- permitted money to go to directly fund these operations. not to mention the arms we left in afghanistan are now being found in the hands of hamas in israel during this war. so it does not matter to me what president biden says tonight. he has already laid the groundwork and showed the world that his prior priority is not taking on iran and not preventing a nuclear iran, and that is what scares me -- larry: kash, quickly on this other related matter, yesterday antony blinken and the biden administering -- administration reuped the ballistic missile sanctions on iran. but, kash, they didn't enforce them in the first place. why should we think they'll
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enforce them now? i mean, what's changed? i mean, unless you see, unless you see ships and vessels stopped, unless you see third countries, third party countries taken off the clearinghouse wire, taken off the federal reserve wire so they're outside the dollar system, unless you see a mandate that says you cannot sell oil to china anymore, why should anybody take any of this seriously whether they're the economic sanctions, the energy sanctions or the ballistics missile sanctions? why should anyone take it seriously, kash? >> they won't with. it's just like his speech tonight, they're not going to take it serious lu, because it's not going to have any banking. you and and i were in the trump white house when he enforced every single one of them, economic, kinetic, military and if multilateral. and here when you have a biden regime who has refused to enforce any sanctions on the books, it doesn't matter what new ones they write up. it's like, you know, trying to fill up a car with sand, it's
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not going to go summer, and it'g to garner a headline in the mainstream immediate what ya, but again, that leads us tragically to a more empowered iran and a longer theater of war and us inching toward another afghanistan. larry: well, that's what liz's point was earlier, it's going to take a while. liz, this is a very good bipart stand letter, house members, about 60 some odd democrats and almost 60 republicans. came out a couple of days ago. there's a fabulous paragraph here about how iran needs to be held accountable. but i especially want to read you this thing. this includes maximum enforcement of all u.s. sanctions, taking any and all steps to eniran's -- end iran's trade with china. let me repiece this -- repeat this. all maximum enforcement of u.s. sanctions. and then this little parenthetical phrase, taking any and all steps to end iran's trade with china. now, i would like to hear --
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these are 60 some odd democrats signed this letter. i want biden to say that tonight. do you think he would? >> no, i don't think he will. i mean, look, he's so afraid of offending iran. by the way, iran today went to a third front which is the houthi-backed militia group actually sent a missile at one of our destroyers in the region -- larry: oh, i didn't know that. >> -- which was taken down. thankfully, no one -- it didn't hit the ship, is the and the army is being coy about whether that was the target or not. but i think kash is right, this is moving beyond israel. it's moving into the region writ large. but to your point, it is so offensive that not only are sanctions not being enforced not only, by the way, with iran, but also with russia. and the great beneficiary of both of those is china who is able to buy copious amounts of oil and cheap oil. and, by the way, we're the only country apparently in the administration not allowed to
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produce oil. i mean, t t bizarre -- it's bizarre. larry: by the way, the central bank of russia was never completely taken off either the clearinghouse wire or thed fed wire. that's the dollar -- brian, i want to, just before we lose everybody, this business about humanitarian aid which sounds wonderful -- >> right. lahr a march but, you know, when you look at it carefully and you look at the history of humanitarian aid, trucks, hundreds of trucks coming in from egypt into gaza, it's going to be hamas-run -- >> we mow the history of this. we know the agencies who run this. we know the u.n. agencies who run this. they have a terrible track record. they're anti-israel. this money's going to come in, and hamas is going to say, oh, look, we've got a piggybank, and it's full of $100 million. how do we want to use that. we have got $100 billion in foreign aid, $100 million in humanitarian aid,ing we can't have these round numbers that nobody knows where the money is going. there is no chance he's going to
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talk about it with any specificity just like the other money we've sent overseas. and is we are funding our enemies when we're supposed to be fighting them. i don't think it turns out well. larry: brian, every -- you know this, but every ministry, every mode of transportation in gaza is run by -- exactly. larry: -- hamas, okay? and the u.n. crowd run by hamas. so this is the, you know, the $100 million of taxpayer money, there's already close to the billion dollars of so-called -- what is palestinian aid? palestinian aid is hamas aid. if why -- this is window dressing for the bidens. the israeli are, i mean, netanyahu said yes, but when we find out hamas is stealing it, we will bomb them, that's a difficult thing. >> job one, stop writing checks to your enemy. larry: oh, is that succinct? >> that does make sense. [laughter] larry: i think we covered the ground. by the way, john roberts gave a
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great intro. liz, brian, kash, thank you ever so much. don't forget, catch brian on "the big money show" weekdays at 1 p.m. eastern, it is my fave. coming up next on "kudlow," idf ground troops are locked and loaded, but might there actually be another strategy? i don't know. we're going to ask former cia station chief dan hoffman. please stick with" kudlow," we are coming back. we want the best but sometimes we fear the worst. ♪ ♪ nvestments is different than other money managers. (other money manager) different how? aren't we all just looking for the hottest stocks? (fisher investments) nope. we use diversified strategies to position our clients' portfolios for their long-term goals. (other money manager) but you still sell investments that generate high commissions for you, right? (fisher investments) no, we don't sell commission products. we're a fiduciary, obligated to act in our client's best interest. (other money manager) so when do you make more money, only when your clients make more money? (fisher investments) yep. we do better when our clients do better. at fisher investments, we're clearly different.
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larry: all right, folks, welcome back. let's go to fox news' lucas tomlinson on the ground in israel with the latest. lucas, thank you for doing this. what can you tell us? >> reporter: larry, officials say 11 americans remain missing here in israel, some believed to have been kidnapped and taken captive by hamas and being held in the gaza strip. earlier today we went to an israeli army base in the central part of the country where where some of the 1300 israelis killed by hamas have been taken. we spoke to the top rabbi with, and he described what he had seen. >> when we received small ago bags of babies without heads, it's -- when you see women,
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grandmothers, females, mothers got with raped and we see those in cities, film, we are in abnormal situation. >> reporter: we saw a number of israeli f-15s flying overhead earlier today, larry are. those bases are so close to the targets in gaza, just a few minutes away. the jets have to fly out over the mediterranean miles offshore so the weapons can arm properly. satellite-guided bombs hit targets in gaza today. worth comparing damage to that misfired rocket launched that a hit a parking lot near a hospital. notice how many cars are still a intact in this village. an israeli jet would have destroyed all those cars. some of the bodies brought to the pork were so badly charred, one was actually two bodies, two backbones, a woman was hugging
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her child at the end before hamas killed them. the reservists also said some of the bodies were booby trapped, something we've heard from israeli commandos who drove their own cars because there was no room on helicopters. >> i'm a child of holocaust survivors, and i grew up hearing stories of the camps. i thought those were the worst stories. these stories are worse. and i think that that's the hardest thing for me. i never thought i would live to see something worse than the stories i grew up with. >> reporter: now, people in tel aviv saying the 75-year history of this country, nobody has compared any of the wars or battles to the holocaust except for now. larry? larry: lucas tomlinson, thank you ever so much for that reporting. difficult stuff. all right, folks, idf ground troops, they're locked and loaded. the question, are they actually going to strike, or is there another strategy? joining me now, dan hoffman,
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former cia station the chief, fox news contributor. dan, thanks for doing this. i'm going to almost argue both sides of this, dan. i am not the expert, you are. our own john roberts was reporting -- not predicting, just reporting -- that some people in the israeli security structure think the ground invasion would start in two or three days. again, to defend john roberts, he didn't predict,ing he just said that's one option. i just wanted to get your quick take on that, two or three days. are they that ready, that locked and loaded? >> it's anybody's guess. i think what they're doing is preparing their order of battle. the mission statement is clear, prime minister netanyahu has said his directive is wipe hamas off the face of the earth. so that's what that means. there'll if a ground offensive, it's unclear when the idf will launch it. larry: you know, dan, the other things we've heard -- i don't mean to confuse this, but there's a lot of opinions arouni
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defense forces can take their time. the precision army bombing can continue, essentially denying power and fuel and water and food, and to quote one of them, tire out the hamas terrorists so they won't fight quite so hard. so maybe this would be an extended pause? what do you think about that scenario? >> it's possible. look, i think there's three things that the idf has to be thinking about. first and foremost, you know, gaza is extremely densely populated urban area. secondly, the, there's the hamas use of these underground tunnels which gives them strategic depth, literally. they can move around in miles and miles of tunnels can and pop up where they wish and launch attacks on the idf. and the third is that hamas does not distinguish between enemy combatants and civilians. in fact, they use human beings as human shields. and is so the idf has to contend with that. and what i would emphasize too
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is israel is coming off of the worst intelligence failure with since the yom kippur war, and they need to make sure they've got their intelligence right so they know where the hamas operatives are, where those 30 roughly thousand hamas terrors are, the security forces as well as the police force. they reportedly can killed the commander of hamas' security forces with an airstrike today, so that's a good first step. there's a lot of work to be done, a lot of intelligence gaps to fill before they launch their strike. larry: one last one, dan, quickly, if you would. some of the israeli people have been quoted as saying they're not going to go in, that they're just going to keep the airstrikes up and that it's a different strategy and there's no guarantee for the ground force ifs. do you think there is a guarantee for the ground forces? >> i don't think that they can eliminate hamas without a ground offensive. but at the same time, there's no reason for them to do anything but demonstrate the best ops
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security, and there's no reason for them to announce their plans to anybody. and i think even though we know it's coming, perhaps it will still be a surprise for some of those hamas terrorists when the idf shows up at their door. larry: yeah. i mean, otherwise it's like hamas got away with it, i mean, if the israelis don't wipe 'em out, it's almost like saying, all right, you did this to us, and you got away with it. >> israel can't exist while hamas enjoys ungoverned space in gaza to plot terrorist attacks. i think that's the clear conclusion from the events of october 6th and 7th. larry: dan hoffman, we appreciate it very, very much. all right, folks, in a few moments on "kudlow," newt gingrich says democrats now have an anti-semitism problem, all right? and they don't want to talk about it. plus, why does the liberal media automatically buy into the hamas reports, all right? joe concha writes about it in "the messenger" today, and he's going to tell us about it all
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♪ ♪ larry: all right, continuing our war coverage there from israel, let's go to fox news' mike tobin live on the ground with the latest. mike, thank you. what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, i can tell you that the soldiers here basing along the gaza strip got visits both from the defense minister and the prime minister telling the soldiers to be ready. meantime, we see a lot of rocket fire coming out of the gaza strip tonight, a couple of long range barrages reaching all the way toward tel aviv and the suburbs. a lot of those rockets were intercept, a lot of them were short-range rockets hitting here in the immediate vicinity of the gaza strip. soldiers from the historic golani brigades got a visit from the benjamin netanyahu today who told them they fought like lions in the past and will fight like
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lions. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: we are going to win, full force. the entire people of israel is standing behind you, and we will give the blow to our enemies so we get to victory. victory. [cheers and applause] >> reporter: and airstrikes continue to pound gaza city and the gaza strip with the israelis saying they've got another high value target, said to be head of the hamas national security forces. meantime, the reuters news agency citing unclassified u.s. intelligence reports supports what israel said as far as palestinian health ministry run by hamas inflating the number of civilian casualties after that explosion behind the hospital. the palestinians said that 71 -- 471 people were killed, reuters says it's closer to 100, possibly as high as 300. as far as the soldiers getting ready to go in, we see them
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coming and going are from this juncture. the soldiers say they are ready, they have been trained and they're anxious to get the job done so they can go home. larry, back to you. larry: mike tobin, thanks very much and please be safe. joining us now is newt gingrich, dear friend, former speaker of the house, fox news contributor, author of "march to the majority: the real story of the republican revolution." newt, welcome back as always. you wrote a tough piece in the thy sun, will -- new york sun, will the democratic party defeat its terrorist faction. newt, you mentioned get 'em in the primaries, but you know what? even before you fete to the primaries, the leadership of the democratic party has not said a is single word so far as i know of criticism of these people who are pro-hamas and anti-israel. >> oh, i think that's true. and i think that the leadership is probably frightened of them, and i think that that, again, you know, the democratic party's led from the left.
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it's intimidated by the left. you have 9 or 0 is members as i -- 10 members as i indicated in that article that are totally pro-terrorist. yesterday tlaib, congresswoman tlaib was attacking israel for attacking the hospital which israel did not do. i'm hoping somebody will go up to her today and say are you willing to say the same things about islamic jihad now that a you know it was an islamicy had rocket that was killing people at that hospital? and my bet is she won't answer. she will not condemn islamicy mad -- jihad. none of them have condemned the killing of babies, the raping of women, money of them have condemned taking grandmothers hostage. these people are pro-terrorist, and that's what they should be called. there's no question in my mind that aoc and i'll hand and tlaib and -- ilhan and the friends are
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just plain pro-terrorist members. the house ought to censure them, and in the american tradition, they should face an opponent in the primary because they're in very democratic districts. you probably can't beat 'em in a general election, but you could beat them in a primary. larry: has a member of the leadership, any member of the democratic leadership or the biden white house said anything? either about them or to them directly? >> i have no idea about what they said e to them directly. it was embarrassing to watch the democratic house leader yesterday say, well, gee, i haven't read the tweets. i haven't read the transcript. that's just plain baloney. it's very clear. it was on television, informs in the newspapers. -- it was in the newspapers. they are, the democratic caucus is afraid to stand up against terrorists, is afraid to be pro-israel.
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it'll be interesting to see how many votes they get against any kind of aid package for if israel. and i think this tells you how much the democratic party has decayed from the period where it was very pro-israel to a point where it has a large pro-terrorist e faction. larry: i mean, it's sort of like the president of harvard or the president of u-penn or one of these guys. they're afraid to say mig against the students demonstrating for hamas or against, you know, the anti-semite, the anti-semitism strain is very significant. i mean, i would think this has to be some kind of election year issue, you know? going beyond the primaries. it's just a difference between the gop and the democrats. >> well, look, on the left wing of the democratic party anti-semitism and the desire to destroy israel is now a dominant and real factor. and i think the people need to recognize that the left is deeply opposed to democracy, they're deeply opposed to the
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survival of israel. and i think that's part of a general pattern on the left. and i think that you see this with these huge demonstrations, and it's going to raise real questions. i was glad to see the house republicans, you talk talked about hearings, on whether or not to take away the tax deductible status of places like havard and university of pennsylvania and yale. harvard has 40 plus billion dollars, billion, in their endowment. and i think that has to be looked at. and you have to look also where the money comes from. because the universities won't tell you. larry: newt, i wrote your name in on the last ballot as speaker of the house, because i thought you did such a good job 25 years ago. was i wrong? i wrote you in, said i'm for gingrich -- >> oh, no. larry: balanced the budget, you cut taxes, you reformed welfare. it was a hell of a performance. i'm looking for that kind of speaker right now, mr. gingrich. >> listen, i think the whole conference is.
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they're going to have to get in a room, i saw just a few minutes ago jim jordan has decided to go back and try again because it turned out what i thought was a good idea, to have mchenry, the current speaker pro tem, stay on til january, these folks have got to calm down. the level of anger, the level of hostility in the conference, all of it started by eight traitors, that's what they were, traitors, who abandoned their party and allied with the democrats against 996% of the republican -- 96% of the republican party with no idea what they would do if they won. they've caused chaos, they've embarrassed the republican party, and they've weakened the united states at a time when there are two major wars underway with. and it's really, truly, i think, the most disgraceful behavior by republicans in my lifetime. larry: afraid e to say so is, but i know you're right. i'm voting for gingrich. i did then and i am now. [laughter] newt, you're great to do this. best to calista. all right, folks, right here on
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set, joining me is my friend joe concha, media and politics columnist, fox news contributor. so, joe, what is it the liberal media, the mainstream media will listen to hamas first? >> and it's the way they couch it, larry, as far as hamas is a source, but then you look at the average headline in "the new york times", washington post, reuters, associated press, and it says something along the lines of israeli strike kills hundreds in hospital. palestinians say. or palestinian health officials say. who are palestinians? who runs gaza? who are the palestinian health ministry? it's hamas. so you want to fix that headline? quite simple. strike kills unknown amount in hospital, source unknown, hamas blame ares israel. you want to -- that's a little bulky, fine, but do it that way because this puts lives in danger. this is no longer media bias and it's against conservatives or against a political party.
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this escalated to the point where joe biden's meeting with arab leaders were canceled as a result of these false reports. we also saw violent protests every with where from beirut, right, to baghdad. and then we saw iran put out a message saying time is up as protests escalated in this country over a lie. that missile came from islamic jihad. it was misfired. it landed in the parking lot. the hospital is still standing, and i showed you the picture before. new york times runs that headline, israeli strike kills hundreds in hospitals, palestinians say. below it, a building that looks like it's blown to bits, it's not even the hospital. larry: that is so bad. have they, has "the new york times" recanted not just that picture, but their early headline was the hamas point of view. they blamed israel, in other words. >> exactly. they've pivoted, they've evolved on it. and now without even acknowledging we made a mistake and this is what happened, instead they just kind of said
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what we just reported two days ago, ignore that. larry: has anyone gone through a thorough -- look, our reporters have report brilliantly, in my opinion, fox reporters. okay. here's the actual evidence. here's the audiotape. here are the pictures of the hospital. here's what the idf says. here's what the u.s. pentagon is saying. >> exactly. larry: has anyone reported that? >> this is pictures on the ground -- larry: cnn, msm -- msnbc, you cover the media with, have they reported what actually happened? >> not with the vision gore that they need to, that's -- vigor that they need to, that's for sure. and we're still seeing these headlines, hundreds killed in attack on hospital. it wasn't an attack, it was the misfiring of a missile. and we don't know if it's hundreds. only hamas is saying it's hundreds because hundreds only helps galvanize the arab world against israel and further this conflict to hezbollah and iran
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eventually. that's e the goal here, to create chaos, and they're doing so based on a lie, larry. larry: and they continue. no recanting. >> put aside the anti-israel bias and just get it right because lives are at a stake. larry: you're absolutely right. lives are at stalk, the war's at take. you're right. joe concha, the best of the best, fox news contributor, "messenger." we didn't put your book up, but you've got a new book. >> love the title. [laughter] larry: coming up -- so far. war threats around the world haven't damaged the stock the market really. we've had some corrections, very minor, a couple hundred points, but so far the stock market is shaking this off. we'll talk about it with mr. wonderful, kevin o'leary, when "kudlow" returns. new york times, they didn't even have the right hospital. that is disgusting. joe concha. holy cow. ♪ tourist taking photos that are analyzed by ai.
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larry: all right. so you've got more threats around the world, especially the middle east, but so far stocks are shrugging it off. let's talk to kevin o'leary, shark tank investor, author of "the cold hard truth on business, money and life." kevin, welcome back, mr. wonderful. i mean, you haven't had a blow up in oil, you haven't had a blow up in stocks. i know long-term interest rates
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and the treasury market have gone up, they're approaching 5%, but it seems interesting to me, i hate to use the word, but it's kind of a kauai yes, sir sent financial reaction to a lot of problems around the world. >> you're right, larry, except these problems, particularly the one in gaza, market's anticipating a quick resolution. now, if that doesn't happen, there'll be more impact particularly on energy prices. that's the grave concern. but there's something else playing out here. you know, inflation's at around 3.5%, and the fed's mandate's 2. so what does the fed do? we're sitting at 5.5% terminal rate right now, i'm anticipating they're going to move it up slowly to 6, and that's going to get mortgages back up past 99%, car loans 9 -- 9%. and so that's the backdrop. and is everybody wants the fed
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to stop the raising rates, but i don't think that's going to happen. so we'll see how that plays out. i will say one thing, larry, that i found very interesting. you know, i've been making a lot of noise about the chips act and how they never gave any money to small business and we haven't even rolled out that trillion dollars yet. this week in new york by have a chance, there must be reasons these things happen, i end ended up sitting beside jean that ramona, she is the madam secretary of commerce in the united states, the chips act is a big deal for her. and i said, madam secretary, you gave nothing to small business in that. that's 60% of our economy. and she said, awe -- au contraire, mr. wonderful, i have $9 billion earmarkedded for you. i said, i don't see it. you educate me. she agreed to do that. i'm bringing my analysts, and mr. wonderful's going to washington again. i will come back to you, larry, with the outcome because i've got thousands of companies that want a piece of that bill.
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