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elizabeth: i'm not sure why the white house doesn't understand what you're saying but military experts in foreign policy officials say to us about that. we are going to take up, who will have a big show tonight, thank you so much larry kudlow, good to see you. we have top experts foreign policy officials with the latest and israel is poised to invade gaza. it's now hot action out of lebanon, we got breaking news plus expert reaction and criticism of the present speech last night. republicans did drop jim jordan as nominee for house speaker and we talked exit strategy with congressman michael thought and his fight with michael gates. matthew gates. former president trump providing his gag order. trump is battling back the special counsel david weiss, he will testify on hunter biden case. we debate what hunter could be charged with next. big u.s. company swept up in anti- israel controversies, they
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are saying no to that and u.s. media again criticized for reporting, propaganda. we will explain. i am elizabeth macdonald, "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ >> we got breaking news, new development, the uss shutdown way more rockets than reported. for cruise missiles, 15 drones shot down out of yemen headed toward israel or if this was over a long nine hour spent yesterday in the northern red sea. this, israel orders soldiers to stand at the ready to soon enter gaza. the battle to get humanitarian aid. we got. we got hot action out of leb lebanon, possibly opening up wider. steve harrigan live with more.
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>> that's the real fear, it could be a second front much more powerful foe, hezbollah a group described as the u.s. as a terrace organization sponsored by iran. israeli officials releasing a type short time ago video of what they say is destruction of hezbollah terrace network across the border in lebanon. he see israelis strike on the network. it strikes an object -. elizabeth: we are sorry, technical difficulties lost steve harrigan, who update on the news and bring him back and when get his shot back up. this is hot action right now in lebanon, let's bring in retired u.s. four-star general david perkins, fox news printer and without retired lieutenant colonel bob mcginnis, the author of the book divided we stand. the global scheme for a one world government. from what you'd click here,
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reporting out of that on, what you make of what you hear now? >> obviously the biggest is widening of hostilities in this part of the world and that's one reason we have our group separate has a look to the north is greater capability said, so it could be a large threat, they are controlled like hamas from around so iran continues as it has always done, stir up conflict, discord and chaos in the middle east. they do it through their proxies. last night you were talking about the uss carnation and a number of drones and cruise attacked missiles which came from who do you again, she a militia controlled by fire ants of the big focus needs to contain the conflict to the gaza strip area and keep these other
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iranian proxies out of the flight with israel. elizabeth: what you make of hamas releasing to u.s. hostages, judith and her daughter natalie, to chicago area residents talked about as a possible delaying tactic by hamas to stop an invasion by israel, which you think? >> of course they will stall if they possibly can. operations in 2000, 141 square miles of buildup area will be an entirely different bite and perhaps we have ever seen even though we have been in city fights like falluja and vietnam and so forth but releasing those two hostages out of what, 199x it's a drop in the bucket. they are trying to buy time and i think for the israelis need to start going in, they need to make it very clear this is not
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going to end well for hamas, hamas must be destroyed and frankly, watching what hezbollah and hamas, they are doing it at the request of arrhenius. if you don't put pressure economic and perhaps military pressure against iranians, it will continue and will not end well. >> what the colonel said, what is your reaction to the president's speech last night? >> the u.s. continues to be in support of israel which i think is key. as occasion any military operation, i think you have to make sure we don't lose focus as to what the main objective is here as was stated. israel has got to defeat and destroy hamas, the only way is on the ground. you can punish from the air but only defeat and destroy on the ground and it will not be easy.
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people have to understand what will be involved. it will be time consuming, israelis will work hard to minimize civilian damage but hamas, hezbollah and all proxies from iran will do all they can to try to paint israel as the aggressor here. elizabeth: this could take months, if not weeks. colonel, republican senators marsha blackburn j.d. vance criticized the present speech for tying israel's survival to ukraine funding think it was more about ukraine. reports that white house is talking about politics on this, it is rattled by conflicts on three continents that could hit biden's reelection and we will show broke israeli groups in times where putting up billboards of those held hostage. they are pointing out anti-semitism in the u.s., what did you make of what i said about the president's speech? >> the president has had the right words, he condemned hamas and mentioned iran and linked it
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to ukraine. i think the broader geopolitical issue is israeli, what are russia's, china's interest here? is clearly the middle east turmoil and probably will be start even more but ultimately, we need to about our primary adversary and that is china. china has 25 year strategic relationship with iran. they are iranians pumping millions of gallons or millions of barrels every day sending them to beijing. somehow we can influence that and cut off, we are going to have a different outcome because iranians can't go without -. elizabeth: the colonel said, general, the issue with the president speech, he equated russia with israel when hamas wants to destroy israel, russia doesn't want to destroy ukraine, they want to take over and he spoke about a few gaza but
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couldn't guarantee hamas would not steal it. the pentagon in israel, i know you agree, it's about stopping terrace worse than al qaeda on the level of isis. democrat groups attacking president biden for basically not doing enough to support hamas so the palestinians, palestinians are run by hamas. you feel the world and media doesn't get, we had to take out osama bin laden in afghanistan. this is what this is about, israel is trying to do, what you say? >> you have to look at this from the different levels of the players involved. israel has accidental threat surrounded by hamas, iran has a lot and they are dealing with actions and that part of the world. the united states has a look at a global strategy here. as we spoke about, both russia and china are the quick
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essential opportunist. they use what's going on in the mid east and in any way they can to the benefit and anything that causes destruction or chaos for the united states or our allies, they will have the benefit, the united states has to take a broad view of everything going on in that part of the world and make sure they don't get lulled into a false sense of security. elizabeth: got to go. thank you so much for joining us tonight. let's welcome to the show from house foreign affairs congresswoman claudia, it's great to have you on. what was your reaction to the present speech last night? >> first of all, the president mentioned iran but i think it was a gesture. iran is the problem, the entity looking for regional dominance in the middle east funded by china because of the forces china buys from rent because of the sanctions lifted by the biden administration exporting
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oil and china as the general or colonel, i wasn't sure if he had it before they said, china and russia are opportunist and utilitarian. they don't care about the morals of where they get the money and power so they are the global dominant adversary we have in the world and they don't mind using proxies like iran nothing directly but iran is the problem from a they are able to fund hamas, islamic jihad, has a lot in these groups and that's who the real enemy is and they will continue to fund them. until the biden administration recognizes how important iran is in this mixture and how they have to stand up to them as the trump administration did under the great guns of secretary pompeo, maximum russian campaign instituting sanctions. a couple of days ago sanctions, is not sanctions on enrichment of nuclear war iranian expired. we urge, about a letter for the
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democrat in a bipartisan way to urge european partners to join with us in instituting sanctions which continued to impede iran and their ability to continue to wage this tariff war in israel. elizabeth: by the biden white house trying to appease iran, the biggest a sponsor of terror? it doesn't want a two state solution in israel, he wants to wipe out israel, hamas charter. why is the biden white house trying to appease terrorists? that's from general and foreign policy prose, what do you think? >> is inexplicable why they don't see it, it's so obvious and all the work president trump did including creating the abraham accords, making partnerships with regional players in the middle east who by the way, wanted he's and prosperity for their people. we are in the middle of negotiating something to end saudi arabia to the abraham
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accords. they have the issues in the past but now it's time to look to the future of how we can provide back. all the players and arab nations in the middle east are concerned about the strength of hamas and destruction caused by iran. we have a huge problem 90 the salaries from the south funded by iran. they are disrupting this entire region, i think the biden administration, there is a map drawn out, they need to follow the plan followed by president trump under secretary pompeo and great guidance. this probably could have been avoided but here we are, we need to continue to recognize that and starve around resources given to them by china and other players. elizabeth: feeding the democrat party has the hamas problem? let's watch the top democrat and you will hear him dodge questions whether he will ask rashida tlaib and omar tweets on israel, watch this. >> rashida tlaib and elon omar,
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they are saying israel is to blame for the black and gaza, the tweets have not been removed despite u.s. intelligence assessment which shows it was a rocket misfire from litton palestinian groups in the re region. do you think democratic colleagues should delete those weeds should they apologize? >> i will leave it up to them, i do not pass judgment on that sort of thing. elizabeth: your reaction? >> first of all, rashida tlaib has not denounced this false claim israel had something to do with the hospital and gaza. representative omar has done that and stated that on twitter but looking at the situation whether she rashida tlaib, she should face police center and potentially expulsion from the house taking this stand. by the way, i like to do that, it's a strong thing to do but they could easily apologize and
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democrats do have a hamas problem. look at college campuses across the nation. elizabeth: thank you for joining us tonight. joining us tonight, or expedia chair steve forbes, america first legal presidential hamilton and author karol roth. fox news contributor and columnist, liz p. hunter biden special counsel david weiss was it down for a closed-door interview. could hundred face charges over foreign body balls? house veteran affairs, the chair, capitol hill chaos. jim jordan was dropped as a nominee for house speaker. the third vote failed. what is the exit strategy? was a white knight here? we are taking the on next on "the evening edit". ♪
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>> let me tell you, we've been at this for 18 days, which we would never have got here. it's very frustrating but now we got six, no 809 people talking about, i did not want to adjourn this weekend but allows them to work the bus, i am staying here in d.c. to work this weekend to make sure i'm checking with my colleagues so when we come in monday we can have the votes we need to have and make a decision and hopefully bring them down to one or two and become not to that level and walk and what we need to do we just walk to the floor and take every vote that is a republican vote cast it when we select and our comfort. elizabeth: will he be available this weekend? >> weatherby -- i'm sorry. elizabeth: will there be a vote this weekend?
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>> there will not be a vote this weekend. there is a lot of people out there throwing her hands out and it just happened jim stepped down. i was very much in support of jim and voted for him all the way through but it didn't happen so now i hope there is a consensus, it's not the first time that has happened but it is the first time this type of both caused by vacating the speaker. elizabeth: there may be a vote tuesday so there are reports of major fighting in republican meetings, is it true mccarthy again fought mccarthy slammed matt gaetz and cited the crazy eights and voted to oust him and indicate you almost lunged at matt gaetz when he tried to interrupt mccarthy, is that true? connect let me say this we have have very rough 18 days and our
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passion on trying to get this straightened out is beyond measure and because we are dealing with this nation when we need to get back to work. let me tell you, i do believe gaetz and myself and everyone in that room working together to try to get as fast as possible matt gate and i disagree on a few things that we agreed on jim jordan and agreed on several others. we didn't agree whenever he made the motion that was put us into this place but i will tell you, who got to be united because real people we need to go up against. elizabeth: i do not mean to interrupt but you guys are squandering it. polls now show voters trust with publicans more than democrats and all but a few issues. this is the biggest advantage republican have had on the economy and 30 years. this debate is about about for
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america's soul. u.s. debt and overspending, and danger of territory. the voters don't have a safe the voters have a say, it doesn't count anymore on what d.c. does because the president continues to circumvent congress with inflationary spending declaring things like national emergencies with the stroke of a pen or executive actions. he's spending on his own and homeowners feel like the vote doesn't count. >> the house was moving up until the time we put ourselves in this position and that's why it is so important to get back. remember, we can't force the senate to take all the bills regarding past trying to deal with exactly what you're talking about and what the voters need to understand is we have a slim -- we have to get things through the senate. we have to push and we believe as the polls show, whether it is securing the border or israel or dealing with trying to bring our
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budget down and long-term debt, all of these things, we don't have a speaker without a rudder and the first thing -. elizabeth: public it fixed soon. thank you for joining us tonight. okay, first three dozen universities holding anti- israel rallies. the company are getting swept up in this, to but they are saying no in a big way to anti-semitism is colleges stay silent plus america first legal vice president jean hamilton, new york judge defined on former president trump for define his gag order in the $250 million fraud case. trump is battling back. we got the story. ♪ ♪
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legal vice president, gene hamilton, it's good to have you on the show. this new york judge and to $50 million civil fraud trial against former president trump, he find president trump $5000, i know it's a drop in the bucket for filing his partial gag order. he originally threatened him with jail, or do you make of this? >> liz, i think this is again this judge who's out of control is refused reversed on appeal in terms of the action cases going on there, appearing invented and appearing to not be impartial ws violence to the rule of law in new york and away that is upsetting to the president's supporters. elizabeth: the judge cited involvement for trump on proposal, the law clerk calling chuck schumer's girlfriend. trump attorney apologized but
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the president, former president is trying to battle back against gag orders and, do you think he could win? >> i think gag orders are particularly dangerous especially talking about people running for elected office. whether the federal or state level, either way, they are dangerous, things that need to be extremely limited in that context and limited in scope for identified target and judges need to be mindful of the first amendment speech of this story, special counsel david weiss will appear for a transcribed interview before house judiciary next month. usa today reporting weiss and d.o.j. officials are probing hunter biden for possibly breaking foreign lobbying laws. do think that will happen? he could be charged with that? >> he absolutely should be. leave all of the record author and public opinion my organization this week we filed a motion for judgment.
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we sued the department of justice to require the department of justice to follow the law and require him to register as a foreign agent. whether or not they decide for criminal prosecution is a different story but the bare minimum, they need to require him to register. we laid out explicit detail in this court document all reasons why the department of justice has been on notice about all of hunter biden activities that require him under the registration act. elizabeth: prc documents come in from of the biden family make $24 million from overseas deals. ukraine, russia, romania, kazakhstan, there are reports we are seeing that ukrainian energy firm, the burisma you talked about, they plan to meet with senators and house lawmakers in 2016 shortly after then vice president joe biden excessively got ukraine to buyer its top
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prosecutor who was investigating burisma. senator rob portman marcy cap to come up there marcus denied this, they were not at all. hunter biden was busy at work helping to lobby the u.s. government on behalf of his employer burisma. >> absolutely right. there is so much evidence out there of hundred acting on behalf of burisma contacting whether it is father and other government officials and burisma of course wasn't the only one. there's so much evidence other it was any other american, you or i, we know exactly what they would be doing but because it's hunter biden the department of justice is not going after him the same way and it's not fair. elizabeth: gene hamilton, thank
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okay, nearly three universities nationwide now seeing about israel and estimate protest but major donors are cutting all ties donations to many of these universities and get this, ways and means chair jason smith told us last night he may look at raising taxes on their endowments. leah who live in new york city with the latest. >> one expert tells me colleges and universities save or don't pay billions of dollars in taxes every year because of their tax exempt status and lawmakers like jason smith are suggesting it's time to revisit the status. a possible change could be significant and wide reaching because most colleges and universities are tax exempt. ivy league endowments have gotten very large in recent years, all eight paths. 180 billing dollars in total,
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that's an increase of roughly $100 billion over roughly ten years ago now major donors are promising to pull back, former ceo of victoria's secret seven cars ties from universities. he will re-examine support for the university of pennsylvania and mark rowen, ceo of apollo group level calling on other donors to give just 1 dollar to the university of pennsylvania to protest what he called the universities tolerance of anti-semitism. here at columbia university, the colleges postponing columbia given that. that's an annual fundraiser for the school of the university explaining to foxbusiness in a statement they decided this was not the appropriate time to move forward with columbia given day. it was scheduled to take place last week, next week escaping. laughter olivia giving they gave
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$29 million in the one day event. elizabeth: you always do it reporting, thank you so much. wall street pro karol roth, fox news project, liz peek. it's great to have on, we love you. you are smart. karol, we got big companies saying no to anti-semitism, look at intel, they pulled up europe's biggest conference after conference leader same support for israel. he apologized but citigroup carol, just part of thank for posting revolting into israel post on the instrument account that endorsed the mass murder of jewish people. what you think, carol? >> i think that's the differentiation, imagine this were 9/11 and you have people out there saying i stand with al qaeda or ripping down pictures of people lost in the rebel and pointing and laughing at the same it's all america's fault.
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this isn't about work, it's about civilians targeted by an act of terrorism and people feel emboldened to say they want to kill people because they belong to a certain race or religious group. i am against cancel culture but this is beyond that, you cannot work with a person who says they want to kill you, kill your customers and your friends and those are people, those are monsters. elizabeth: what you think, liz? >> particularly on college campuses, his college faculties and it's amazing it took anti-semitism just how radical student bodies have become, i frankly welcome this, i welcome this push back against the wall indoctrination of our young people. elizabeth: but listen to this, you will hear a professor of lung the university, he slammed
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columbia in a pyrex before not publicly denouncing pro, terrace rallies by students, watch this. >> president of columbia university will not speak out against procare organization. citizens of the u.s. right now kidnapping browser yet the president of the university is allowing, getting support to procare student organizations. columbia university. you are a coward. elizabeth: what you think, carol? he said he would never let his daughter attend columbia. what you think? >> of long that these institutions are hedge funds with educational institutions attached to i'd revise that to hedge funds with indoctrination count attached to them and
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frankly, this has been a long time coming as liz said, we need something to radically change and for all of these donors who are not going to pledge anymore, they should be asking for their money back. elizabeth: and stop with tuition gouging. they sit on 180 billing dollars in endowments while they gouge middle-class families with more and more tuition costs. final word. ten seconds. >> the problem the big endowments is colleges really aren't accountable to anybody. a long time donors saying no before the endowments are heard so is colleges are impervious but i think they should be ashamed. we need to have adult amongst the board and administrations to speak up. elizabeth: thank you so much, have a good weekend. this story. european intelligence, european officials slam the media for ms.
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reporting, inflated wrong casualty numbers for the gaza hospital blast that official blame. why foreign policy experts say the media must stop mystery reporting plus the gop speaker needs to end. the energy department cap watchdog testifies fraud will hit biden's green spending and a historic big weight because of lack of oversight. let's check in with our buddies dagen and john. i want to hear what's coming up. >> joe biden makes the pitchfork $105 billion in aid to ukraine and israel. cap former army ranger tim kennedy and cofounder of save our lives to react to that as well as general retired donald duck, israel evacuating cities as hazlet is on the move. >> michael shellenberger on governments trying to use this
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here, forbes media chair, steve forbes here in studio, good to see you. we need to do on the story, this is why the house speaker fight has to end. energy white house talktalk testified historic brought in weight coming in 400 billing dollars green energy low program but josh probably says a pay to play scandal between biden's green energy czar and that i contact insight seek to get terms of the money. >> the guy goes to a conference and paid to go to the conference to get a loan and the guy head of the government loan is in debt. guess what that is? past the smell test and in terms of the whole thing we should learn from what we saw in the covid the spending shelling out money and i want to shovel this money out guarantee, you will have politics, wasted scandal. they don't know how to run the programs and leave it to the
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private sector, they say an opportunity, they will make it happen. elizabeth: energy department watchdog says only three workers with no written procedures are very informative billion dollar loan program bigger than wells fargo's commercial loan book. let's listen to josh probably read energy czar. >> do attend dinners with industry leaders with a pay to see you speak, is that a yes or no? >> i attend many events, some of which i am invited to be gotten many pay and some are paid conferences and others but one thing. >> i was a yes and a note so let's go back. do you attend events where people say to see you speak? >> i have. >> applicants for loan programs? >> applicants for doe funding. >> you are the director of the loan programs for the federal government department of energy,
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people are, who want to get loans from the government or paying to see you and you think that's fine? not a rhetorical question. elizabeth: steve, he couldn't answer. this guy has ties to the cleantech roundtable has ties to it. the green energy program, they gave $3 billion loan to a guy who has ties and sit on the board, cleantech roundtable. $3 billion round which this other guy runs. >> it :-( government spending. you have the right political context and you get the loan. the private sector they want to return and see if it has commercial viability, here is about politics for things are located to get the contract and where they go from there. eleven years ago, $500 billion out the window. barack obama the president and
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from the private sector they lose money, to but they lose money knowing private money and looking to pick winners. these people have no idea what they have the ability, they wouldn't be in the energy department, they would be in the private sector and vc. elizabeth: or getting fired. this is on steroids. >> they don't have the energy department, they are not part of this program. elizabeth: steve forbes, you are terrific. come back soon. foreign-policy pros warning u.s. media must be more vigilant about propaganda and disinformation reporting out of hamas because it starkey level uprising. we have afghanistan war veteran will, he will break it down on "the evening edit". ♪
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elizabeth: well, let's welcome to the show will ruger, a navy veteran of the war in afghanistan. he had previously been nominated by former president trump to be u.s. ambassador to the afghanistan. so it's good to have you on. what do you make of this, reports european intelligence shows a maximum of 50 people, not 500, 50 were killed at that blast at that hospital in gaza. the media took hamas' word and reported 500. that was an inflated number. what do you make of this? >> look, it could have been intentional, right in and there
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are some people who have claimed this, but it also could be a form of motivated misperception in which the people who are writing these headlines, these stories are more than eager to accept the narrative because of the fact that they are more sympathetic with with that cause. and it happens a lot. it's also the case that in the fog of war it's easy to rush to those types of judgments. but again, what we need is a bit more skeptical'd ya, right? a media that understands they don't need to make a call so early to get clicks, they need to hold back and wait for the truth or try to figure this out. that's part of their job as watchdog. elizabeth: it's terrible that 50 died, it's terrible that humanitarian aid is getting blocked into gaza saw, you know? humanitarian aid should get in there, but the reporting was that the explosion was caused by an israeli airstrike. new york times, reuters, msnbc kept their tweets up on that, and intelligence shows it was caused by a stray palestinian rocket that could have been shot
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down by, you know, the iron dome. >> yeah, again, a bit more skepticism particularly in an issue like this, right, that is so heated where your words can really enflame public opinion around the globe. i think it's important to have that skepticism, to hold back. again, unfortunately, there's a lot of incentiveses as you may know, there's a lot of incentives in this world to return to judgment, but you've got -- rush to judgment. you've got to have a little bit more detachment and skepticism. elizabeth: yeah. let's listen to the media misreport hamas propaganda, and you make a good point, it sparked global uprisings. watch this. >> happening now, breaking news, a deadly explosion at a hospital in gaza. palestinian officials say hundreds were killed, ask they're blaming israel. >> the palestinians are talking about 500 dead, initially they a talked about 2-300. they later upped that number to 500. it is unlikely that a rocket, a crude rocket fired by a palestinian group could cause
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that number of casualties. >> the government in gaza says the israeli defense forces struck a hospital in the center of gaza city. >> today the death toll rose significantly in a horrific attack in gaza. the palestinian health ministry said 200-300 people were killed. elizabeth: okay. european intelligence says 50. you know, here's the issue, when you get, when you get information out of palestine, critics and foreign policy officials warn, will, that palestine is run by a terror group that wants to annihilate israel. that's in their charter since 1987. hamas is backed by iran. iran wants to destroy and annihilate israel. do you see that in any e of the reporting here? >> no, again, and i think it's really important to understand that so often the first reports in warfare are either wrong or not quite the same type of
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story, and sometimes, often times these stories seem too good to be true particularly for the reason who have a reason to push these naturetives, right? -- narratives, right? so you have to be really skeptical of reports that seem to kind of fit a pattern that you're trying to see as opposed to looking at that truth, and we saw this in ukraine, right -- elizabeth: but -- go ahead, finish your thought. >> there were initial reports, for example, that a russian missile had hit in poland, and that turned out not to be true, and it turned out to be pushed by interested parties. we have to be really skeptical -- elizabeth: especially now because israel's now poised to invade, and this could take months to root out hamas terrorists. will ruger, thank you for joining us, it's good to sew you. >> -- see you. >> i'm elizabeth macdonald, thank you so much for watching "the evening edit" on fox business. we hope you enjoyed the show, now it's time for "the bottom line." dagen and sean, take it.

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