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we are told by our next guest, our friend, georgia congresswoman marjorie taylor greene. marjorie, that is a piece of high drama i didn't know. i'm sitting up here in this little fishbowl. we heard you telling our producers, thank you for it.

can you quickly describe the story? >> yes. the news just broke that tom emmer is out of the race for speaker of the house and i think it's good news. i coin support tom emmer. he is a nice guy. someone i do like as a person but i couldn't support him because of his voting record, larry. we need a speaker of the house that reflecting the values and the views of republican voters across the country and they support president trump and they support his agenda. and tom emmer does not. his voting record, he voted against president trump's transgender ban in the military. he voted for the democrats gay marriage bill that allows churches to be sued if they don't support gay marriages. he also, you know, once had supported the voting rights, the national voting movement that was completely against what we stand for. so that we can't have that for a speaker of the house but i'm glad tom has dropped out of the race. we have got to work hard to find

someone that does support president trump and does support republican voters across the country. larry: mr. trump tweeted today, very critical of emmer. so i thought this was quite interesting. perhaps that led to emmer's dropping out, i don't know. marjorie, at this point how do you handicap the whole issue? listen, you and i talked about this. we need a speaker. we need a republican speaker. we need to get the investigations of all the biden scandals going again. we need to fund israel. we need to fund the border. we need to figure out appropriation bills. you and i talked a lot about this. handicap the race for me. who is possible that is going to pop up or pop down or when, when can we have a speaker marjorie? >> well, larry i totally agree with you, we have to accomplish all those things. i would like to remind everyone with a history lesson. back in 1855 the congress went two months with 133 ballots

trying to elect a speaker of the house. maybe that is what we go through again. i think, i would argue the gop is going through a big change and it needs to be an america first change. that's what republican voters want and that's what the american people want and that's what our country needs. i think we're going to see some more names come back n mike johnson was very close in this last race earlier today. we saw saw byron donalds was running he admitted to the congress he negotiated to the congress for himself to have an office in the capitol. that is something that turned off our conference big time. we saw kevin hern, big conservative chairman of the republican study committee was also getting votes. so we're going to have to get back in the room to see who is willing to run and be a candidate for speaker but i also hope there are 8 republicans that joined the democrats, against kevin mccarthy, they need to apologize and heal our conference to move forward.

larry: marjorie, i'm so old, now that you remind me i remember the 1855 thing. i was around, i was a bit young at the time but i was a researcher for abe lincoln in those days but you know, in all seriousness, what you say is important. i'm not going to pick winners and losers. that's not my job. we rely on you and a, just a handful of others to help us on this but, you know, i don't know that we can go two months. i think two weeks might be even, we just need, israel needs our help. i think you would agree with that. we got to move ahead on the budget. the treasury is borrowing too much money. interest rates are going up. mortgage rates are now above 8%. housing market is getting killed. ordinary middle class working folks can't afford to buy a home. you understand this as well as anybody. >> that's right. let me know you something on the israel front, i want you to know who is holding up money on israel, that is the democrats. they have two bills sitting in the senate that have

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thanks for helping us tonight. >> reporter: a pleasure, larry. we're right up against the border where we continue to see clashes between the israeli military and hezbollah based iranian backed militants. latest skirmish a israeli helicopter fired rockets at a hezbollah hoecation, miles behind the border, two miles away. we heard the crash and saw the smoke. hitting hezbollah fighting positions before militants fire. they are using anti-tank missiles, mortars, rockets. israel blasting with tanks not too far from where we are, artillery, fighter jets and armed drones. it has not reached a full-scale war here, tens of thousands of israeli soldiers with the potential for worse.

it is already deadly, in the last two weeks 44 hezbollah and other militants have been killed. seven israeli soldiers are dead. civilians are killed too and injured as well. that's why, larry we've been seeing evacuations stepping up as well. about 100,000 israelis have been moved from this side of the border. about 20,000 fled on the lebanon side. a lot of destruction there. late tonight, listen to this larry, things getting even more complicated. israel reporting that two rockets were fired from syria into israel. israel responded. hezbollah has positions in syria as well. multifront war. back to you. larry: yeah, holy cow, greg palkot, i'm not surprised to hear that but that is news. that is breaking news, thank you for that. please be safe, be safe as you can, appreciate it. joining me now senator markwayne mullin from oklahoma, member of the senate armed services committee. senator mullin, thanks for coming back on. >> thank you, larry.

larry: my big beef is, i see the bidens on the defensive. i don't see them defending america. i don't see the iranians and their terrorist proxies worried about what we, the united states might do. it sounds like we, in the state department and the bidens and the white house are more worried about irwhat iran is going to do. instead of being on the offense they're on the defense. instead of them worrying about what we might do to them we're more worried about how to defend what they might do to us. i find this all completely backassward? >> you're seeing it absolutely right. we're not living with an administration that believes in peace this strength. we have an administration that sees peace through diplomacy that doesn't work in this case. this region only respects strength, that's weak. if they smell weakness they will

come after it. i think iran is actually cowardly. if you push on them they will back off. you saw president trump push on them and they immediately backed off. but when you saw the biden administration come in, release the sanctions, renegotiate with the iranian nuclear deal, what you saw was the world sponsors of terrorists with iran backing hamas and hezbollah, you saw them become bold again and that's exactly what you're seeing. no one can deny that hezbollah is funded 100% by iran. that isn't even debatable. the state department even says the same thing. hamas is funded by somewhere between 75 and 90% is funded by iran. once again, not even debatable. we know that is actual factual and so there is no way iran isn't behind this and they're testing america's resolve, saying are we going to stand with our allies or are we going to waiver. right now the administration,

larry, is waivering. larry: you know, john kirby said today that he said we're putting new sanctions on. i don't know what he is talking about. >> i don't either. larry: we are putting new sanctions on. i have no idea. i don't get that. >> those sanctions have not been run by us. we don't know what that is. larry: exactly. i have a thought, senator, you're on the armed services committee. how about the united states right now, the next 24 to 48 hours stop iran ships from i think let's say oil tankers with the cargo going to china, okay, or or a cargo going any other place? let us finally enforce the sanctions. let us use the tool of interdiction of the sanctions. you a may not agree with him, mitch mcconnell wrote a tough

editorial in "the wall street journal." laid out this boom, boom, boom. interdiction, sanctions, stop ships. they won't have any new foreign exchange or any energy reserves. so why doesn't we do that? there would be something. that would be a shot across iran's bow? >> we could do that immediately with our carrier groups in place right now, we could shut that down completely without any problem, if they chose to do it. the problem is this congress doesn't make that call. the commander-in-chief makes that call. larry: yes. >> unfortunately that is biden that is sitting there. if they wanted to simply reinstate the sanctions trump put in place they could do that with an executive order because they reverse i had it with an executive order. that could go into effect immediately. that would affect somewhere, we're looking at it, we think somewhere between 900 million and $1.2 billion a week in funding. you don't think that would put pressure on them? absolutely it would. larry: would send a terrific

message and show some strength for a change. >> for a change. larry: instead of all this hand-wringing and defensiveness. almost like they think they're victims over there. i want the terrorists to be worried about our escalation about our escalation. >> yes. larry: that's what i want. anyway, senator markwayne mullin, thank you, sir as always. we appreciate it. >> thank you. larry: joining me is tim kennedy, army ranger, sniper, special forces operator and cofound i of save our allies. a group helping to evacuate americans from war-torn areas. so, tim kennedy, thank you for coming on. you have been on the ground in gaza recent cueing american hostages or can you just tell us about it? >> yeah, first and foremost our heart is breaking for the israeli people. it is unconscionable what happened and inscribable seeing pain and suffering of the

actions the terrorists took against the israeli people. you know, on the ground right now they're fighting for their survival. as hezbollah is amassing on the north border, down in the south on gaza, hamas is being prepared. you have the taliban trying to come through iraq to position themselves with syria and al qaeda and isis, just such a mess right now and you know, as you heard from your previous guests we've not shown a position of strength and in that region all they respect is strength so we're very vulnerable right now. larry: tim kennedy, i hate to say it, i have said this every night for the last two weeks plus i want them to be afraid of us. right now it seems like we're afraid of them. tim, you're a brave guy, what you're doing is the lord's work, or what you have done or will do in the future. americans were killed and they were slaughtered. >> yes they were. larry: that is an act of war.

they were also taken hostage. that is another act of war. our ships and our airbases have been shot at by terrorist groups. those are additional acts of war, tim kennedy from your experience as a special-ops guy, when acts of war are committed against you shouldn't you do something about it as soon as possible? >> deterrents should be the first thing, right? they should be so scared to mess -- after, after pearl harbor, one of the generals in japan said he made the worst mistake of his life. they woke the sleeping giant, that is the american resolve. we dropped nuclear bombs on them and we stormed beaches and we climbed cliffs and we planted flag. there is nothing worse than a united america. right now we are not united and we are scaring no one because we are looking weak internationally. you know i have the privilege of working with some of the most amazing men and women on the planet, men and women worn the uniform with the american flag

on the soldiers and have done the deed being most lethal fighting force on the planet in the middle east, almost 20 years now, almost 24 years since 9/11. we do not have that resolve right now. it is frightening the way the rest of the world are looking at us. there are wolves chomping at the bit to get at us. we need to truly demonstrate we're the fiercest fighting force on planet. larry: yes, sir, 100 times. yes, sir, 1000 times. yes, sir, 1000 times. tim kennedy hope you come back it's easy to get lost in investment research. introducing j.p. morgan personal advisors. hey david. connect with an advisor to create your personalized plan.

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economically and financially if the chinese want to go into taiwan or if the north koreans start acting up and i guess the other part of this, gordon, is, a lot of chinese nationals are coming over our border, our porous, open border. so what do you make of this? >> well, first of all china is putting the infrastructure in place for attacks on american soil. remember that lab at ridley california, near fresno? it had at least 20 pathogens and almost 1000 mice had been genetically engineered to spread disease. we've got these chinese males in pacts of five to 15, military age, traveling without family members, pretending not to speak english. u.s. border patrol know some have links to the chinese military. the question what is china doing and it is pretty clear to me. larry: what? in terms of crossing the border let's talk about that first, in

terms of crossing the border, these are spies, they will become spies, they are spies? >> stab -- saboteurs, saboteurs. larry: wreaking havoc when you say saboteurs, you think about throwing bombs in general or stopping the gears from shifting? >> yes. there is all sorts of things they could do. think could attack military bases. they could go after our grid, start wildfires, spread disease, you name it. they're are all sorts of things i will happen on the first day of a war in asia. this will be the first time since the war of 1812 that americans have fought a sustained battle on their own soil. >> cybersecurity, ransomware, god knows what else they could do. left's shift gears. i mean we're not looking great. the outcome, we're all praying for israel. i don't think the nights -- united states is distinguishing itself in the middle east. i don't see anybody is seeing

deterrents. what if china takes advantage of that, goes after taiwan, and the other part of this, gordon, what about the role of north korea? it never gets enough play. they're arming themselves to the teeth. they're selling weapons some people say they're selling weapons to iran? >> they're selling weapons in the hands of hamas and that couldn't happen unless china was involved. we're seeing chinese weapons in the hands of iran proxies especially the houthis, even hamas. clearly beijing is behind this attack. we've got to remember, it is not just taiwan, on sunday two chinese vessels rammed philippine boats in the south china sea at the shoal. this is despite a series 6 warnings from the u.s. state department about that. we're prepared to use force to protect the philippines, our treaty partner. deterrents has failed and it can fail not just in taiwan but anywhere across the region and as you say, once china attacks north korea probably will take advantage of the situation to go after south korea or japan and

probably russia would go after japan in the northern islands. larry: would north korea go into south korea first before china and taiwan? >> i don't think before but they would take advantage of an opportunity where they believe the united states is completely stretched thin. we would be stretched thin in asia because we're not prepared to go to war right now because we have a commander-in-chief who is not preparing us for war. biden in august told democratic party fund-raisers in utah in a private event about the danger that china poses, the ticking time bomb as he put it but he won't talk to the american people which is, i think, an abrogation of his most solemn contutional duty which is to protect the american people from foreign attack. larry: got it. gordon chang, thank you ever so much. tough stuff but i think you're exactly on target. we'll talk soon. folks we'll take a quick break.

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