stuart: we did ask what year were fund size candies created. ashley first. ashley: 1968, number one. kevin:1980, i will be right one hundred%. %. lauren: 1992. stuart: i think it's 1968. my right? stuart: mars, the maker of m&ms started smaller versions of their candy in 61, manufacturing adopted the word junior for them. i can't go on with this but they started coming out in 1968. time is up for us. coast to coast starts now. lauren: 1 of our troops in the

middle east and more technology stocks. there is no link but i will tell you what's going on with each tear. what david solomon makes of this and a federal reserve player warning about hiking rates. glad to have you. before we get to the markets desperately trying to find their footing, to rich edson, the boots on the ground in the middle east. >> reporter: this comes as another attack on positions of us troops in the middle east, the us defense official in the early morning hours, a 1-way drone attack shot down a few hours from al-assad airbase in iraq. what the pentagon tallies as 20 different attacks against us positions in the last we 10 days. the us has retaliated, the

military retaliated against the iranian forces against american positions and senior military official says a pair of f-16s in a weapons storage area and one ammunition storage facility, the us did not inform israel ahead of these strikes. lloyd austin says iran wants to deny its role in these attacks against our forces. we will not let them. if attacked by iran's proxies against us forces continue we will not hesitate to for arming necessary measures to protect our people, these narrowly tailored strikes were intended to solely protect and defend us personnel in iraq and syria. the pentagon says it will attack again. >> we reserve the right to take additional strikes and continue to ensure the message is loud and clear that we will protect our forces and these attacks are an acceptable. >> reporter: the pentagon said

21 american personnel suffered minor injuries and when you look at what the military is doing beyond this, you mentioned 900 additional troops headed to the region, that is on top of two carrier strike groups in the region, missile defense systems heading there, fighter aircraft, the us dramatically increasing its presence as this more continues, the effect around the region as the military is trying to contain it. neil: congressman cory mills, first time i've had the pleasure of talking to him in person so i will not ask him one tough question because he could beat me up easily, a war hero, bronze star, but to add to that and his luster, he is trying to do what he said we should be doing, to get americans out, great to see you. how is that process going? >> it's going great but we were able in the very beginning after the barbarism we had seen

from hamas able to get 77 people through ground evacuations of which 32 on the first day, 45 on the second. neil: with no commercial flights in or out. >> given my background in the military and state agencies i have been going through that region for 20 years and he clue and arabic which helped when we were coming across the jordan. we were able to utilize our own ground assets and backgrounds and at the end of the day, you figure it out, adapt to overcome, these are people's lives at stake and so when i talk about swearing an oath to the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic one of the biggest things an elected official should be looking at is the safety of american citizens which i wasn't going to allow citizens who want to leave the country, this is the second time i've had to do it in two years, in 2021, i was in afghanistan and

we conducted the first successful overland rescue of a mother and three children, border raised natives. when this happened i knew the biden administration would not be ready or have a plan, no strategy. neil: the state department was processing that. >> we did get great help from the actual state department officials a in country. when it comes to secretary blinken you get no help whatsoever. there's americans now being called by the state department to ask that i evacuated two weeks ago. they are not tracking any of this. neil: americans who want out and those israelis who are nervous and they want out. >> we have a tremendous team that worked with all the offices across the house of representatives, they called in to try to get help, most people saying the same thing. i reached out to the state department and received no help. in some cases they said they

gave me an electronic form i filled out and never went back so we are working with local rabbis, working with glenn beck and the mercury one team, neverforgotten.org, a great organization, pulling together our own state department to get americans out to prioritize them. neil: shadow rescue. >> if president biden is unwilling to do his job i will do it for him. neil: talking about how we support israel, a little bit of division with the new speaker and writers about how far you commit to helping israel, one of the first acts was a declaration showing our support for israel. having said that, this notion that help for israel, fine, more help for ukraine, not fine, putting two together not happening. >> that the brilliance of speaker mike johnson. he's is a constitutionally

principled conservative who understands their needs to be a member driven, not speaker driven decentralized function but what he is trying to do, there's a reason for that, there are certain constituents who don't want from certain districts i would support israel, wouldn't support ukraine, this would support ukraine but not israel, we are supposed to be representatives of the people elected by the people for the people so when forcing people to vote on a package as opposed to separating them so we can vote with our conscience and constituency, you don't get forced into something and say i support israel but not ukraine funding without strategic aid. i support ukraine but not israel so we are able to vote on those individually and the disaster relief funding which should be taken apart and he understands he's not going to force members, that's where you see true leadership, that is someone who is focused on prioritizing the constituency of that member.

he is off to a brilliant start and past appropriations the first day. stuart: i have nikki haley here and chris christie here both saying ukraine and israel should be helped and we shouldn't start dithering on this. are you afraid there's the potential for dithering or sending a message to president zelenskyy? >> i don't think so and in fact what we've seen of one hundred $14 billion we put forward we requested time and again to look at the military strategy, what does that have to victory look like, how do we see a cease-fire? there is not been a true strategic military objective, blank checks, open checks. lauren: you find ukraine to be a good investment? >> when civilians are losing their life that we are supporting, i voted against, hundred other nations don't provide as well. it's very clear the biden administration and others don't have a real strategy on how to

achieve this because zelenskyy hasn't worked with us. we need to understand ukraine, israel and all of this is a bigger geopolitical alliance structure in china, russia, iran, north korea. we need to understand the economic resource and cyber-based worker, not just kinetics and understand what the purpose is, the us dollar is a global currency in the western hemisphere, our border is important. neil: as a decorated soldier, you now know about soldiers going to the middle east to take on these uranian proxies staging these attacks on american personnel. this is getting dangerous, this is spreading. >> you will see a complete destabilization of the middle east. weakness invites aggression, that's what the it ministration is continuing to present, they wouldn't even condemn iran and link them directly to hamas

which is laughable but you have iran who is backing hamas. who is backing iraqi with their passing militias, the houthis, all these things are directly tied to iran. i support the administration's effort to keep american troops safe but i also supported the repeal to get our troops out of their. diane: are seeing you. two minutes of questions. and i'm done. very good seeing you, thank you for your military service as well. the corner of wall and broad is celebrating, has nothing to do with his words but interest rates stall rocketing and technology stocks enjoying a breather today but still under incredible pressure because of those higher rates. a key player in setting those rates joins us now, the dean of the school of business at purdue university, former st. louis head president. great to have you.

what is going on with these markets that increasingly convinced rates are going to go higher, you said in a speech not long ago that you could see the federal reserve bringing 6. 5% right now. what's going on? >> reporter: the main thing is the acceleration of the us economy in the second half of 2023, strong gdp report, strong jobs report, strong retail sales, unemployment insurance claims around 200 so all these things indicate reacceleration. the good news is inflation is coming down on a year-over-year basis, today's report said the year-over-year rate is 3.7%, down from 5.60. almost 200 basis points in reduction in inflation due to the fed policy i worked on

during 2022. we've still got a long ways to go and there's some risk that the disinflation process would stall our reverse so the fed has to remain vigilant. neil: the reports, we are told is one of jerome powell's and by extension the fed's favorite measure or one of its favorite preferred measures of inflation. if that is the case there's less reason at least in the latest report to hike rates at the next meeting, what do you think? >> the key one the committee likes to look at is core inflation and issues around that but they like to strip the food and energy, that's the 3. 7 number on a year-over-year basis so you are still one hundred 70 basis points above target but it's coming down and if it kept coming down at 0.2 a

month, you would be back at 2% in the not too distant future. the risk is that stalls out on us and goes the other way, that is something that we are not prepared for and could lead to substantially higher rate. larry: neil: how much of this is due to the craziness of israel, the markets have held their own and been beaten up here and there with nothing to do with israel but talked to a few market players who said this is an ongoing black swan event. what do you think? >> it has risk of getting to be a wider war as your previous guest was noting, but wall street tends to play down middle east conflict, there have been many conflicts over the years and they haven't affected market so to the extent it remains relatively

contained and relatively regional conflict i don't think it will affect markets but any moment with this kind of risk out there at any moment that could turnaround. neil: we are getting some surveys that show, you probably know these better than i do that americans are petering out when it comes to spending. one survey out of usa today talked about earnings not keeping up. that's not unique to american citizens. congress has the same problem. what do you make of that, that this is going to test things the fed counts on, the consumer remaining, viable spending remaining stronger without going out of hand and prices staying stable? >> i don't know. i think wall street is guilty of confirmation bias, they want to tell us a slowdown story and want to tell a story that higher interest rates are going to push the economy into

recession but the consumer isn't cooperating and the older story would be if the labor market is strong, consumption is going to be pretty reliable and that is the best story right now, the labor market looking very good, still 1.5 job openings for unemployed workers so again, the risk in the recession call which some are pushing into the fourth quarter, the first quarter of next year, they will be wrong again and have to reprice again, the economy cruz more resilient than anticipated. stuart: we are at 5% overnight for fed volumes. what do you think we will be by the end of next year? >> just sitting here today i think we will be at the same level. i don't think you will get to a point where the fed will be confident enough to reduce rates but it is possible that rates will come down quickly

but it kind of seems what we are describing here is inflation won't fall as quickly as many have hoped and either stalling out of the disinflation or it is slowing down, the disinflation will keep through 2024. neil: could spike in the interim. >> the idea that it's becoming stronger than we thought, and inflation starts to turn around and go back up, that would cause the committee to take action and that's the scenario that is not being priced sufficiently on wall street so that would cause things to go up. neil: thanks for your time. i wonder what the ceo of goldman sachs thinks of that because it could prove worrisome in the polls.

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neil: you heard from james bullard who seems to indicate

the pickup in economic activity could go higher with insurance rates of than they are now around 5%, doesn't see that happen or lasting very long by next year, rates will be back where they are now. i want to pick larry kudlow's mind, the host of kudlow and advisor to donald trump. what do you think of what james was saying, higher before things go lower? larry: if he's talking about interest rates the answer is yes. jim bullard is a supersmart guy but i thought his talk about inflation was wrong. when you look at the numbers that came in today the consumption deflator, this is the second straight month of 0.4% inflation rate. if you annualize those month-to-month numbers you are at 5% inflation. the fed's target is 2%.

i ask you, isn't there something wrong with that? i don't know why the fed is holding off because the numbers are coming in against them. the economy was much more resilient in q3, but i don't think economic growth necessarily causes inflation. i would focus on the inflation numbers themselves. if you are running at 5% the last two months you've got a problem. food prices running at 4% annual rate. services prices when you look at this running at a 6% annual rate. so this is a problem and the fed is not going to raise rates, they made that very clear but that's a big mistake on the fed's part and we should let market interest rates do what they are going to do. of the 10 year is going to go through 5% let it go through 5% but i think you've got a very

sticky difficult inflation problem and i'm looking at these inflation numbers. what else is there? incidentally, here's the game i love, you take this outcome you take that out, so i had a friend of mine from wall street calculate the following, take everything out, take everything out of the cpi in the third quarter, just look at food and energy because that is what people use, gasoline and grocery prices, that is what people use so guess what, food and energy prices in the third quarter rose at a 6.6% annual rate, 6.6% annual rate and that is significantly higher than what they are making, what they are working on, what wages are. so to me, that stuff tells me

we still have an inflation problem, that tells me wages are underwater, that tells me middle-class folks are getting hurt very badly. neil: and let me ask about what's going on in the middle east at markets are absorbing what's going on in the middle east, little worries and cracks, but nothing like what happened 50 years ago at the yom kippur war, the impact that ultimately led to countries uniting and sticking with the oil and bar go, do you see anything like that happening now? larry: not at the moment. you are right. markets have absorbed this. oil prices tell the story. i always look at oil prices and oil prices have moved sideways. brent crude up $90 a barrel, that's your best barometer. i don't think despite the

blunders, the biden middle east iran strategy has totally collapsed, appeasing iran, enormous mistake and iran is operating through its proxies, hamas and hezbollah and so forth to this barbaric attack on israel and they are also attacking american ships and our missiles hitting syria yesterday was a week response, extremely weak response. to answer your basic question, i don't here yet from the saudis that they are going to start cutting oil production or cutting off oil production or arab oil embargo such as we had 50 years ago. i hope and pray that that is not going to happen because that would destroy the world economy including the american economy. i don't see it yet.

but i got to tell you the united states, the bidens have blundered with iran, you cannot appease iran, you cannot appease iran. what you have to do is enforce the uranian sanctions. i would like to see interdiction of uranian shipping, that is what the sanctions call for. i would like to see a whole to uranian oil supplies, selling to china for example or even drones to russia. we should be blocking them. we should be interdicting them. we should be bankrupting iran which is what the trump administration did. that is where we need to go and it would be a rainy an issue. it would not be a saudi issue. it would be an uranian, outside of this, the saudis don't like iran much more than we do so we have elbowroom here but we are

not using it, the policy has failed and now it is up to israel, our hearts and souls go out to israel, they are the ones who have to do what they are going to do. neil: i will put you down as a may be on president biden. appreciate seeing you, what does david solomon think of all that? the goldman sachs ceo is here.

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followed by disappointment. what we just stop way out on this live camara, should be hovering over home where we just saw law enforcement officers with rifles out and what appears to be a suspect on his knees with his hands behind his head and there was a lot of hope that it was robert carr but it turned out that it wasn't. as far as where the manhunt is focused today, it is right near where authorities found the white subaru that belongs to the accused shooter at the lisbon boat launch. this is on the andrew's goggin river which feeds to the coast where the us coast guard is assisting in the manhunt, tactical teams are using sonar technology. the main commissioner of public safety moments ago. >> what will happen in this general location, putting

divers in the water so the first thing you will see is some air resources that will fly over this area and looking to see what can be cleared from the air. do i have to put divers in that area? >> reporter: the commissioner also warned that they would continue using pa systems like they did last night. the police executed multiple search warrants at robert carr's home. authorities instructed him to come out on the pa system. turned out that he wasn't there. the commissioner said if they use pa system is in the future it doesn't mean that an arrest is imminent. the commissioner did reveal vote there was a note they found that the accused shooter's although he did not specify what was in that note. he specified they will hold daily news conferences at 10:00 and only provide afternoon

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the fellow watching this closely as david solomon, you have to watch everything in your purview, the largest financial firms, mister solomon joins us in little rock, arkansas. >> nice to be with you. neil: i want to get into what you're doing to help small businesses, rural communities in a crucial moment but to this backdrop of this war and this fear that it could escalate and a lot of people go back 50 years ago and say could the community rally around hamas, maybe stick it to us, we know what happened then. are you afraid of that kind of stuff now? >> there is no question what's going on in the middle east is unsettling. i start by saying the attacks by hamas on his real are

terrorism, they violate our most basic human principles and are very unsettling for lots of people. the moment, we have a clear view of what it is but there's a risk it could escalate. i don't think that's a likely scenario but it could have economic impact, could have impact around activity around that and that is something we are watching closely. neil: are you watching how colleagues in the financial community are reacting to college protests that favor the palestinians, condemning israel, those who are big benefactors, not going to give another sent. what do you think? >> i repeat what i said to you. these are tax are terrorism. they violate the most basic principles. whenever there's hate of any kind or bias or terrorism of

this magnitude it needs to be conducted strongly. neil: you have an eye for talent, you have great workers under your umbrella. your colleagues said they would like to get the name of kids who signed onto these positions to make sure they never hire them. >> we have a hiring process. we see a lot of talent around the world, a lot believe in our system of values. we think bias or hate against anyone is unacceptable, whether it is anti-semitism, hate against people in the black community, the muslim community, the asian community. any form of hate and bias is unacceptable. we recruit people who share our values and operate in a supportive community.

neil: you look at the markets as you do for a living and they have been falling for reasons of having little to do with what is going on in israel and the middle east. what is rattling them do you think? >> a number of things affecting markets. the economy in the us has been resilient. you saw the gdp numbers which were very strong, but with all the fiscal stimulus we had and fiscal spending we had, that helps play a role in the containing strong economic growth but my sense when i talk to business leaders broadly, the consumer has less momentum, less savings. there's a risk about the economy is more fragile as we head into 2024. we are watching that closely. uncertainty around the world can contribute to a sense of

confidence or lack of confidence that slows economic activity but the us economy is resilient but we have to watch cautiously given everything going on. neil: i talked to the former st. louis federal reserve head, strong data we've been getting from third-quarter growth figures to see rates that are now well 5% or 6% for competition from stocks and development with the uaw labor packet for those, 25% or more, inflation could be back, the federal reserve has to be poised to raise rates in response. maybe 6.5%. >> the fed has moved relatively quickly if you look at the pace of monetary tightening over the last 12 months, the fed has moved quickly. the fed is passing and waiting

to see the effect of the tightening filtering through to the economy. i think the tightening affects our filtering through to the economy. we are going to see a slowdown on economic activity. i think the fed needs more data and more information. there's a risk that rates could go higher. i think inflation is going to be sticky, particularly around labor so that has to have an effect but i think at the moment the fed is in a wait and see mode, very data dependent. if we see a pickup in inflation the fed act accordingly. neil: inflation disproportionately affects small business, rural communities which could explain where you are today. explain. >> i am in an ice cream shop. neil: i quickly picked up on the ice cream.

>> you picked up on that quickly. this is a small business, 12 years old, they make their own ice cream, i tasted some that is delicious. a year and 1/2 ago, the small business program, in arkansas today to launch an arkansas focused program that has existed for 50 years in the united states, we had 14,000 small businesses in the program and felt investing in the small businesses is critical to economic growth and job creation in the united states. if you look arkansas, 99% of small businesses in arkansas all businesses are small businesses in arkansas and it's part of the job base in a state like this so we operated in large earnings throughout the country in the last couple

months in more rural communities, we launched a couple months ago in north dakota, this is our second launch in arkansas, one hundred million dollars in this rural community and we are excited about the impacted and have, small businesses need help, access to capital and grow their businesses so one of the things we are doing is making a $20 million commitment to hope enterprises which is a mississippi based cdfi that can provide credit to small businesses, it's important for that vital ecosystem. neil: talk about credit, one thing i hear from many i talked to is credit is hard to get, it is getting increasingly hard. one businessman put me in a 6 and way, why do we do better in this country, the federal reserve has to raise rates assuming we are going to go to

hell in a hand basket. >> there's a balance to monetary policy, balancing inflation as a horrible head wind and horrible tax on small businesses so it's important we get that right and get that balance right. interest rates have accommodated for a long time. i think of my 40-year career and 5% interest rate is what i would call normalized interest rate, when the change happens quickly as has been happening over the past 12 months, very accommodative monetary policy, it is shocking, and help give access to capital. so important for their growth, we have ways to access capital. no question small businesses can't access capital, slow

their growth plans, that affect additional hiring and affect our economy so it's an important thing to stay focused on. neil: we live in our own heads. i'm older than you. old enough to remember. don't know if i told you, when my wife and i got our first home and the mortgage was 6.5%, what you remember, this is a different time, what you refer to, and this is a shock and jolt and what do you tell them. >> i think if i can operate in a strong and sound economy with 5% interest rates. as you point out it sounds like the first mortgage in the early 1980s or 1970s, i remember those days, i graduated from high school in 1980, i remember

those days well. i don't think that's likely but i do think we are going to live in a more normalized environment, not where money is free. one of the great tailwinds is most americans who own homes put themselves in elongated mortgages with fundamentally low rates for a long time and that is a hugely valuable asset, but if you are trying to borrow now for the first time, things look more expensive and we are still going through a balancing period but they make sure they understand that and understand we can't operate with a strong economy with interest rates at these levels. neil: you are not envisioning what we saw in the 70s. >> i'm not envisioning that.

the us economy is resilient and has been resilient. a lot of things have changed, the breadth and depth and complexity of the us economy but it's important to make good policy decisions and stay balanced. at the moment, we have managed to move inflation which was double digits a year ago to what feels like an attainable level. we have to watch it closely. i think it can be sticky. we have to watch the data and watch it closely. the economy is resilient and we will manage through this honor reasonable basis. people feel this change, this changed so quickly after a period of accommodated monetary policy. a shock to the system. neil: thank you, congratulations on this effort.

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neil: you hear about a ground offensive that could be on, looking at israel, two targeted days in a row with attacks in gaza. it could be laying the groundwork for something else, the foreign policy advisor to benjamin netanyahu, good to have you and thank you for taking the time. you are not here to share military secrets, i get that but our pentagon is saying let's get our ducks in order so we can help you. >> thank you for having me. hitting hamas like never before. we are going to destroy hamas.

>> when we talk about destroying hamas. once all of the ends, however and whenever it ends. hamas should have no role in the gaza period. there are going to be hamas agents. what do you do. >> the mission at hand is to destroy hamas, and there will not be hamas after the war is over, when that massacre will happen again. they will not be able to murder any jews or anybody or anybody after this war is done. on the front line right now, it is a war between civilization and hamas, barbaric savages, we will win this war, not only for is really the entire civilized world.

we appreciate americans support. and and that is what we are doing right now. neil: saudi arabia, was hinting any constructive relationships going forward. and i wonder what you think of that. >> the brutal massacre, there's nothing new with that. to kidnap elderly children, three was to derail the peace

process, saudi arabia and other arab countries. we are not going to let them achieve that goal. they were established in 1987, going to end in 2023. neil: in light of this financially bleeds down, no pun intended, for the second time in as many days, iranian linked sites in syria, added 900 us troops to the region. do you think a war with iran is inevitable? talk:we appreciate the support we are receiving from the united states of america, the bipartisan support and support from the american people. iran is obviously behind a lot of this.

hamas and hezbollah are proxies of iran, just read their daily newspapers, high-level intelligence for that and as the president stressed, no country should take advantage of the situation to enter the war theater, just simply don't. if they do they will pay a heavy price. a heavy price. hezbollah knows this, what the president suggested was a good suggestion, should not enter the war here. if they do, the lebanon war, 2,006 lebanon war will be like a walk in the park for hezbollah. neil: i did want to get an update, we are hearing there is some praying in the unity government led by netanyahu in different strategies, can you tell us about that? everyone is on the same page

but there is some discord. any of that going on? >> i can tell you the people of israel, the government of israel, the cabinet, the united on a mission, the mission at hand is to destroy hamas. hamas will be destroyed. they are united like never before. we will win this war. we have no other choice. no other choice but to win this war and we will win this war and dismantle hamas. neil: i can't imagine the pressure of your job and everyone in israel. stay safe, sir. jackie deangelis coming up to take you through the next hour as the dow is careening at the nasdaq not careening. brian: i was g