david: welcome to kudlow i'm david in for larry kudlow. american is on high alert, after a car explosion at rainbow bridge crossing between buffalo new york and canada. fbi is there they are investigating the vehicle, but there is not much left of the car. which was loaded with explosives, gerri willis with latest. reporter: that is right, is now classified as an incident. a lot of questions about what happened this afternoon about 1:00 on new york border with canada, we call it rainbow bridge, an explosion of a car happened two people died in this, very close tonight agrafalls. -- niagara falls, tsa now operating at heightened security posture. after this explosion which resulted in death of two people who were in the

vehicle. you could see rainbow bridge here. a border patrol officer was also injured. here is what happened, it involved explosion of a car, said earlier to be packed with explosives, now some questions about that. this was at entrance to bring, fire ensues, then the pair were driving in direction of canada from the u.s. we have an eyewitness account of that. >> it went airborne the vehicle began to turn sideways, and under something overhead, and then it hit something over there my prayer was please teen let the officers get hit, then black smoke, no explosion, we heard the people in building heard it. metal on metal, then, i saw black smoke. and then fire. reporter: so, we're getting information now in from mcadams our reporter at

fox, she says she talked with two high level law enforcement sources they believe two men in a stolen car were trying to cross into canada, they started driving eradically and went ouch on median to avoid the officers this is why they crashed. sours tell her that bomb tech said that it was so big and fierce, that all of authorities thought it was a terrorist attack. it is still being treated as a possible attack. as airport and government buildings were shut down there. i just. to add that the -- all hands on deck, buffalo officer of fbi is leading the investigation with local and state law enforce. canadian law enforcement and situation is still fluid, we're looking for more facts, prime minister trudeau weighing in saying 4 border crossings are closed and additional measures conti contemplated.

all border crossing between new york and condition canada are giving guide en to scrutinize every car that trying to pass through. andnew york city, mayor adams say that city was already on heightened alert, we'll keep you updated if we get something breaking, that you need to hear bunderstand that buffalo international has been closed. for departs and arriving international flights, situation still fluid. back to you, but, not the news you want on thanksgiving eve. david: imagine -- i mean, above all, is safety issue, but imagine those people getting ready to travel for thanksgiving. you know people are right in middle of it, a lot of their plans will be altered gerri willis thank you. >> bringing in paul mauro.

former nypd inspector and an attorney. i will read to you, it changes minute by minute, authorities are treating this as possible terror attack. however our alexis mcadams said that law enforcement sources say they believe two men were in a stolen car, trying to cross into canada when they drove erratically and went to median to avoid the officers that is when the car became airborne. it was believed to be from explosives. so, there is a lot that is still not known, but from everything that you heard what do you think. >> so, let' let's take a fly on this mirroring data points up a am leaning away from terrorism, thoughts have to do what they are doing that is treating it as

possible. stolen car, when was it stolen? they will not have time to pack it with explosives if it is recent. >> a good question. >> they will look for who reported it stolen, let's find the owner and say when did you last see the car. they are reverse engineering this and another dane data point, was that car entered rainbow bridge and attempted to make a u-turn, this would marry up with what gerri willis just said, sounds to me like joyride gone bad, they go the on the bridge, that bridge is long, you know it well. david: you know it is, but it isn't there are other bridges, i have walked across that bridge. i used to travel on those bridges, a beautiful view, but, you can walk it in

about 15 or 20 minutes not like george washington bridge. >> my point is, it has commented of a car to -- kmcapacity of a car to build up speed, that might have occurred, does not sound like, according to witness that art car sp smoke that there was detonation. just off of data points we have, take a step back, i'm leaning away from terrorism. david: forensics will not be easy it of the blown to smitherrines, not a lot of stuff they can get from bodies. >> they will reverse en engineer this off data points, they have, hopefully i.d. the two people in car and the plates, if it comes back to something stolen, you look at two guys, if you

know, there is enough to identify them, if they have i.d. or et cetera. then they will look at the latest threats they have. have they had anything that considered in social media that mentioned rainbow bridge or anything about canada. do the canadians know anyone here. there will be a lot of meetings going forward, a lot of people had their thanksgiving ruined because these folks will be working through the night. you do it, we had these things where you thought you were going to dinner with your family think again. david: on other hand, here is what fbi director wray said, a couple weeks ago. realizing that situation in middle east may spillover. >> in united states our concern is violent extremists, individuals or small groups will draw inspiration from evens in middle east to carry out

attacks again americans going about their daily lives. >> so, i think that we have, looking at hamas and hezbollah. two organizations that everyone is talking about. they don't project power overseas generally, hezbollah has in past in argentina, in 1990s but not in america, you could never say never. david: hezbollah did have an explosion in argentina as well, that killed a couple hundred red people, they do have capacity and they have money and resources. not only from iran, we actually in september of 2001 there was a bust of hezbollah cell. only bust we had in u.s. they were transporting cigarettes from north carolina, they get them on the cheap, without a paying taxes they send them to their friends in detroit, sell them make million and send money back. there has been a hezbollah cell if u.s. it was

overlooked because of 9/11, has happened here and people in jail right now, hezbollah members in u.s. jails, because of that. >> i ran a lot of these cases you are right, the way they electric at america is a piggy bank, same thing with hamas, they have folks here tied to hamas central and palestinian that sends money they just earn legitimately, there is scammery, cigarettes is a buying one, new york has highest syntax in country, there was a point where a van load of cigarettes of worth more than a van load of marijuana. so, they get the stuff up here it goes to the the bodegas, 50% of cigarettes in new york city bodega don't a tax stamp.

david: new the border in the south. there is a possibly they could slipped through without any -- anyone knowing. >> absolutely, that is new, when i did this work you done have people that were clean skins that entered in southern border friction less. if you got someone, happened rarely but if you got someone, no data points and your hhuman sources tells you that guy is trouble that would be a big spin up, now a daily risk. they are coming in, nobody knows who they are and mayorkas, i don't say this likely, mayorkas, should be impeached, i have never seen such law enforcement der dereliction of duty.

>> thank you, paul mauro. >> turning to israel. a deal was reached to free at least 50 israeli women and children, held by hostage by hamas terrorists, which also includes a 4 day pause in fighting, lucas tomlinson has details for us now. reporter: president biden is thankful and hopeful this deal getting all american hostages out that such to 10 of them, last night after arriving here in nantucket, white house releases a statement in president biden name saying: >> officials say is was pressure on house that helped get deal over finish line, mike pompeo said it was pressure from israel not the white house that got it

done. >> make no mistake about it, the israeli must continue their effort, reasons the hostages are coming home if they do, they will be returned, because of the good work that israelis have done. reporter: bernie sanders putting blame on israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu for rising civilian death toll, saying in a statement: >> republican lawmakers say, it should be pressure on the white house -- that is getting in way of israel winning the war. >> from biden white house will only get greater, more significant to try to prevent israel from resuming its work to follow through on that commitment and eliminating hamas.

reporter: hous white house saying that president biden will not make any on camera remarks today. >> all right, ti . >> thank you very much lucas. >> bringing in florida continental man corey mills. i continue a moving target. something that we have not nailed down. what are your thoughts about the explosion at the northern border? >> well david thank you, i have made a couple different comments through myself twitter, it looked as if it was a possible probing attack it could have been if it deemed an actual explosive laden or vbied, it could have been a malfunction, you could have had a secondary trigger man, that used in iraq and

syria. this could be utilized as a diversion on northern border for what is going on in south, i have said senate needs to take up hr2 secure border act and president needs to sign it into law, one of your greatest vulnerability is our porous borders, canada under prime minister trudeau, they have not de designated the iranian irgc as terrorist organizations, like at this until a get a post blast analysis, i still see this as something that could be utilized as possible terrorist attack. i do talk with our leadership, i did urge our speaker, speaker mike johnson, to contact the president. urging him to immediately close all land border

border crossings on north and south, edundi understand it would have an impact our priority is to protect american citizens. david: congressman, you talk about canada and hamas, i would also talk about canada and hezbollah, they had a operation in united states, a cell that was busted because they were illegally stststtrans transporting cigarettes across state lines. they got up to canada. before they were arrested where they were receiving status that made them immune to any sort of exporting a for their trials here in united states canada has been loose not only on hamas but also hezbollah. >> that is correct. also we have to think about how involved general

secretarin nasrallah is. we know that hezbollah has been a key element, we know that after the successful countercounter ter imf operation to eliminate soleimani to get closer to the ayatollah nasrallah had his shis -- marry the daughter we know that terrorists organizations, the china, russia and iran and north korea and geopolitical alignment, has been more emboldened with this week administration, there is a failure by the biden administration by secretary mayorkas, who i have cosponsored his impeachment articles, i see it as your guest, just said, he is be impeached.

but also lloyd austin for afghanistan. david: we just had both head of dhs, mayorkas and fbi director in speaking before congress about the border. i found nothing but evidence provided particularly by mayorkas that was contrary to what we can see with our own eyes that border open. if at least. >> same thing you see american people see as well. david: i have to jump in, you had, 9 republicans congressmen, who voted against his being impeached, that is not happening with republicans voting against his i impeachment. >> well, i think we have to look at other leverage points, as a constitutionalist under article 1 we have the power of the percent, we need to responsibly fund the government, and stop out of control spending, we have to also look at leverage points

to put hr2 as policy rider to ensure it gets through and force chuck schumer and mitch mcconnell and senate to do their job and let joe biden threaten to veto it, same way with the dc crime bill and same as others, we need the republican conference to come together united and look impeachment against those who a dereliction of duty our border is pop -- top priority. >> congressman cory mills thank you, sir. >> coming up wild real br-- we'll bring i latest on u.s.-can border and discuss 20er t 24 election with steve forbesthat election with steve forbesthat and monica crowley who kudlow continues. (fisher investments) nope. fisher avoids them. (other money manager) well, you must earn commissions on trades.

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that border patrol is suggesting leaning toward reckless driver results in vehicle crash and fire, but, it is a big but, no one is ruling out a deliberate attack. the problem is. americans have lost a lot of trust in what the border patrol has to say about this. but from department of the homeland security is suspect right now, the faith in government we had, is not there. >> there is huge. there is a collapse of any kind of trust in the institutions or in authority because we have been l lied to for so long, a lot of americans will hear what authorities have to say, i want more facts or i want to hear it from someone else. this is very unclear. we don't have names of the

individuals in the car. >> they were pretty bad shape, we may never get that. >> that is -- it will be unfortunate but now they are remains to be seen. earlier in the day, we had from washington a terror alert or an elevated notice of terrorism with new york state as a specific target. then this afternoon, this. david: steve, just as we were talking to paul about, a couple weeks ago we had secretary of department of homeland security mayorkas, again saying that border is secure, we know that is not true, this is a platt o -- flatted out lie which should be grounds for impeachment, i believe, i wondering if what happened here d does not help to change the focus a little bit of election campaign. >> and everyone could see,

that it was not secure, he should have been removed from office a long time ago, this gets to we don't know who is coming in. we don't know what cells are set up here do do something bad, the, terrorist attack, hamas against israel that was planning for two years. getting people in the kibbutz, so they know that attack on october 7 terrible day, that was done in advance. what sun folding here -- what is unfolding here, we don't know, that is criminal. >> it has been reported since joe biden opened the borders, as late as two weeks ago at end of october that the northern border had more suspected terrorists interactions with customs and border patrol than the southern border, a grand total of about 505 suspected

terrorists to watch list have been either apprehended or acknowledged in some way by cvp, 429 of them were apprehended over had some sort of interaction the northern border, the northern border seems to be where most porous. david: we have s seen cells dealing with canada we know this, it not a question. i can't to canada to track down one of these people for fox. we found him in british columbia there was a hezbollah cell here in the u.s. after the 9/11 attacks, we -- members went to canada for sanctuaries, ex these would probably still provide them with sanctuary. reporter: >> the thing is, how seriously are they taking it. problem is we don't make it an issue, we don't put --

with trudeau and his government, what are you doing and what kind of intelligence sharing is there, that breeds distrust and worry. david: monica another point to be made, old reagan saying peace through strength. if you have a strong economy. you feel more secure about national security. because the two things feed on each other, on other hand, if you have a weak economy, which after going through spade of high inflation we have now, thank god we have trump tax cut in effect, with regard well reckless spending and over rec regulation that makes us more vulnerable to attacks. >> it has crippled us in so many ways. it assault in-- is all interrelated, american people have over ale sent of unease and uncertainty, that

they are not safe, whether it is in terms of national security or their own family security they can't walk down the street us the sprees are crime ridden. border is out of control with problems that come across the border there is a tremendous political -- i think there will abby tremendous political fallout. david: ironic, we play not find it, it to be terrorist. but today it anniversary of the assassination of jfk, he was a democrat but he was a democrat who was strong on security and defense of the nation from foreign enemies. at the time it was ussr, he was strong on defense and also strong on prosperity, he believed in lowering tax rate to stimulate the economy. it shows, the distinguishtion between aikekennedy democrat

and biden democrats. >> that is why a lot of democrats feel that the party left them, kennedy was an outlier. we didn't have inflation in later 60s. big tax cuts. so he did the right things. david: if jfk were alive today, i think he would call himself a republican. >> yes. david: monica and steve forbes great to see you. >> thank you. david: coming up we will monitor situation, at the new york and canada border and talk about israeli hamas hostage season fire. deal with -- ceasefire deal with adam bollard that is

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david: wealth continue to it will story up north, there was an explosion at the border in buffalo, new york between buffalo and canada, we bring in adam boehler, former taliban negotiator, i apologize for the change of stories, but, you know. breaking news it changes a lot of things, you had a lot of dealings in past with terrorists, dealing with terrorists, what do you know about them -- particular at it has morphed over the years with hamas and hezbollah, do you think those folks are here taking advancage of a porous border. >> i think i'm starting with is the way it makes us feel, you know it reminds me of the malaise of carter administration, we have a weak economy and a weak foreign policy, first thing we think about is terror.

that is just reminds me of the carter administration dynamics you have to be fearful. >> the difference between then and now is that iran has become far more sophisticated than when carter of the president. that was just the beginning stages of the revolution, they have decades in power and built up all kinds of infrastructure particularly on international front, and dealing with supporting and financing terrorism in the world. they have that extra jump if you will that would give them more abilities to sneak people in, now, you don't have to sneak them in you just ca walk across the border. >> we have enabled it took the right thing that was cut them off economically, you see economic input to iran. the policies appeasement has enabled that, which has enabled the situation you

now see in israel. >> now the deala that was made with the for the hostages, i understand that human element, you desperately want those hostages to be saved but the question is, do you hold on to -- maintain the pursuit of h hamas ha israel began and does this pause. >> there is no question, there is a reason why hamas is doing this at the end of the day when you negotiate with terrorists, when i negotiated with taliban they are terrorists, you have to recognize what they want, they are self interesting, why are they doing it trust me this is not out of the goodness of their hearts, it because they will regroup, we have 50 people to get out alive, innocent women and

children these are tough choices you face. >> there are also questions who they are getting back from israel, 150 terrorists that israel has been holding, we remember, i think name yaya si nwar, a big hamas prisoner, he was given up in a hostage swap it could be that the 150 prisoners that israel is giving up, could be back in the war front. >> yeah, it -- there is a the reason they are doing it, hamas will regroup, you have 150 for 50 at the end of the day these are people that were pulled from their cars, women and children on the other people that were involved in attacks against the r israelis there is no equivalency but it is a tough choice. david: good news, from my

perspective is lies from hamas and all their supporters, that we've seen here in america, the universities, their lies are being disputed not only by raise itself, they say is just propaganda but independent observers our tray yingst went to one of their tunnel systems they had under the al-shifa hospital, all hamas supporters said was israel propaganda, we have independent observers, that do in and we're looking at the videos now that trey took today. it really shows the world the lie that hamas has been living with. >> nonsensical, if israel wanted to destroy all of the hospitals they could do it with a push of a button one two minutes, why go though a charade, not clear what the the reason would be otherwise, israel did it for

clear reason that trey showed. david: i agree with you, i felt the same way, but there are a lot of ill informed people who go along with the flow, but they can't deny now, we have to get these pictures out every where, people are doubting that hamas are terrorists they are, they it what we know they did on october 7. and they will continue to do that unless they are stopped. adam thank you so much for rolling with punches appreciate it adam bolder. adam. >> thank you, david. david: god bless you. >> joining us now katie pavlich, editor of town hall.com, and fox news contributor, and hogan giddily. when to we are from white house about up north? >> in these times, there are a lot of questions, more so than answers, people are trying to get information,

and make sure that when they convey it to american people it accurate and truthful. we have seep a real problem with that we need facts and honestly and truth, if it turns out to be terrorism, white house needing to level with us, and let important people know what is at stake. the real problem here, it because we have so many people come across southern and g northern borders there are so many concerns, that is why joe biden is failing so miserably, american people are concerned about his leadership they understand this is not by accident it

is by design. david: one word that i think of is credibility, secretary of transportation buttigieg makes a statement about what is happening with thanksgiving day travel, when you consider what is happening up north, are people trusting what he says? >> well, the number one job of the commander in chief, president biden, is to keep the american people safe. now, it look like this situation was not away terrorist attack that would be good. but that does not irk rate erase the fact there are serious threats this this country faces and this administration has opened is southern border there are hundreds of known terrorists caught and millions who have gotten away or released on streets without a background

check. with no idea about where they came from, when you talk with border patrol agents who work in arizona and texas, they are highly alarmed at what they are being asked to doer day. to release unknown people into the community without knowing who they are, it easy if you have common sense to understand that is a threat to american and something that this administration has brushed off, and lied to american people, saying that border security, and they could like catching a couple of people on terrorist wash list a s success. >> hogan, a lot of americans are looking at or thinking back on the afghanistan withdrawal with our commander in chief did not listen to his military advisers. telling him to gottive in up bagram airbase.

against question of credibility, are we in a situation where we might have an emergency and we don't have a commander in chief we trust? >> remember, it of the want that he didn't just listen to them, he lied 'it, saying i never got that advice. that is not what they said. you look at the polls, that is when diswroab jobe's popularity, the anger with his policy it started to show in all of the poll numbers on, the truth platters to the american people, you are right, it transparency or a lack of it there is no accountability. even though they get caught in lies time after he. american people are suffering because of those policies, they pretend they are not happening but they are, pause of joe biden and

his policies, american people see that, that why you see people like donald trump ahead of joe biden in a head-to-head match up for president of united states, this is what we feel, white house saying if we just spin it bet, they don't feel as angry. . >> katie, we had an expression. the loyal opposition, a certain respect for the other side as much as they would fight politics was never beanbag it was serious stuff there was a loyalon session, i don't think if we have that sound bite,ly plea play it, talking about trump. pla . >> me will imprison, and execute, whoever he is allowed to imprison and

execute, and drive from the country. just look at his past, it is not really hard to reach. only them that stood between him and the destruction of american democracy was a federal. >> we have run out of time what is your reaction to that. >> it is unhinged. they are panicking because trump is beating biden in a lot of polls on issues this matter to everyone american and it is projection, the left under joe biden, barack obama did it as well, using justice department to go after parents and families and weaponize the government, pure projection to say it is trump who will do those things. david: katie and hogan great stuff thank you. >> have a wonderful thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving.

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jarrett. fox news legal analyst. gregg we still don't know what happened up north. but what we know is that fbi has been on so many wild goose chases. going after traditional catholics, after school board members, and after saying white supremacy is biggest threat to united states not what might have happened up north, can you blame americans for being skeptical? >> not at all, you have to be a fool or idiot to trust our government. that -- say that reluctantly and sadly. because trust is earned, yet our government, agencies, doj, and fbi or intel agencies have squandered that trust, from john adams wrote about, in my book, he warned of unprincipled men, if left unchecked.

would become r ravenous beasts of prey in his words. 200 years later his warning has come to fruition, we saw it with russia hoax and now running a protection racket. david: there are questions whether or not chief envoy to iran was sharing information with masterminds of terrorism, with iran, rob malloy. now suspended because of his misuse of intel documents, 10 seconds. >> yeah, and that is probably the tip of the iceberg. we have seen that kind of lawlessness almost indemmic in our own agencies that have as i say, squandered our trust, they need to be deconstructed and reconstituted. and only solution in a

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