larry: message to the biden administration, please, let israel be israel. let the idf be the idf. don't micromanage. let them annihilate hamas and everybody would be happy because they'll be watching david asman in for liz macdonald up next. david: they have to complete the mission. that's what the marines say. complete the mission. they have to be free to do that. thank you, larry. hamas releasing tennis relies and -- ten israelis and two others today and israel saying

hamas violating the ceasefire but is it a surprise. karine jean-pierre blaming trump-appointed for the strag fellation economy. is there any -- stagflation economy. black lives matter leader and former democrat endorsing donald trump for president. plus, hunter biden in spin control offering to testify in a public hearing but on his own terms. will congress accept his terms? i'm david asman in for elizabeth macdonald and the evening edit starts right now. more hostages handed over to israel earlier this afternoon and harrowing accounts of what life was like for the individuals in captivity, including one freed 12-year-old boy saying he was forced to watch videos of the october 7 attack that whenever another child would cry during the screenings, they'd be threatened with a rifle to keep them quiet. they were beaten for crying out when they were watching these horrific videos.

israel now saying hamas is violating the ceasefire agreement. the idf reports three explosive devices were detonated near its troops in northern gaza. joining us now to discuss all of this, retired lieutenant colonel daniel davis, four time combat veteran who served for 21 years including deployments in iraq, afghanistan and qatar and garret exeter. garret is a 14 year veteran of the u.s. marine corp. and marine raider deployed to iraq, north africa, east africa and south pacific. gentlemen, good to see you and very good to have you here. colonel davis, where does this live us and specifically israel with regard to a ceasefire? >> i don't think there's any possibility of a ceasefire. israeli defense officials have been adamant and even this afternoon of emphasizing that there is no chance that this goes to a permanent ceasefire even though there's plenty in the united states and u.s. senate specifically that have

been asking for that among many others, but what i fully expect to happen is once they have exhausted all the possibilities of getting hostages back and hamas doesn't have anymore to give or isn't willing to give anymore, i think you'll have a return to something close to the same amount of fire power that you saw before. now, one possible caveat is that the biden administration officials have been pushing behind the scenes to get israel defense forces to be more surgically and specific in its attacks and not to have the wonton wiping out whole city blocks because that could you cs many casualties and nobody can risk israel losing western support or arab anger in the regime. that's got to figure into their tactics going forward. david: garret, as colonel davis said, there's democrats calling for real sort of hamstringing of israel and tieing directly to the aid that they desperately need at this point.

bernie sanders is the head of the budget committee in the united states senate. he is a senate democrat of particular note. he said "the blank check approach must end. the united states must make clear that while we are friends of israel, there are conditions to that friendship and that we cannot be complicit in actions that violate international law and our own sense of decency". there's implication they were violating international law, but they have to complete the mission that they have set out to do, which is dis-longing hamas from gaza. don't they? >> they do. they have to complete this mission. i think there's two things that need to happen. one, all the hostages need to be released and two, hamas needs destroyed. i would just say to senator sanders and others calling for this to be put into the language of israeli aid is that u.s. military aid is already contingent on u.s. law that needs to account for human rights and human rights violations so adding this language into the bill is just

messaging tool for sanders and others to giver a wink and nod to the progressive caucus and a base that's in the streets of hamas and we're going to support israel and we're going to shame israel by injecting hamas propaganda into the bills. it's unnecessary and doesn't need to be there. david: colonel davis, it's strew that president biden started strong in the protest against hamas and there's waffling there and we mentioned yesterday the fact he's now taking back what he originally said about hamas overestimating civilian deaths. of course they're overestimating civilian deaths. they always co. their people that hamas militants are dressed as civilians and they are counted among the dead, but the president took that back even though he knows that hospital explosion it was from gaza, not from israel. they did exactly that so are you concerned despite his strong start that he is beginning to waffle on israel and that might

affect their own mission? >> what i hope he's doing is trying to help israel maybe reign back some of their incarceincarceratedder and understandable desire for revenge and justice for their civilians who were murdered on 7 october because for israel to succeed, they've got to maintain western support and especially american support. if they're seen as being callous or careless despite the reality, if that's the impression, they could lose support and without the continued support of the western side, they won't be able to complete the mission or destroy hamas or bring peace to israel and that is ultimately the most important objective and they have to be careful about it. our own laws to the other gentleman's comment there said we can't use our support if it's violating human law and if israel is not careful about killing civilians. if they don't try to use

targeted sections that take care of them, then we could actually be -- david: let me switch back to garret, we have to be careful as a nation that we're not seen as weak in support of the allies or defending the troops and we have attacks by the iranian-backed forces, houthi rebels being directed and not only finance but directed by iran right now against our troop. well over 70 of those things, including now pirating ships. there's a great former general jerry boykin who was a delta force commander that spoke to us yesterday about that perception of the west by our friends, but more importantly perhaps by the enemies. roll tape on that. >> much these people who are having no respect for nor fear of our administration and this is going to go on until we get tough and start fighting back and start putting something in

their mailbox i guess i should say, that's not going to be very friendly for them. david: garret, we only have 15 seconds but your response to the general? >> i think he's right. the same logic that says if you remove cops from cities the crime will go away is the same logic that says if network is not strong on the world stage somehow it'll be safer. america has to show strength and get people in line and do it quickly or they'll see more chaos. david: colonel davis and garret exner, thank you for being here. karine jean-pierre claiming the administration was crumbling when biden walked in. >> when we walk intoed this administration, the economy was on a tail spin. david: as i said before, it was exactly the opposite. the economy was booming in

january of 2020 when biden came into office and growing at 1.4%. the economy didn't improve under president biden and got worse and the immediate reversal of america's hard one energy independence and combined with massive new government overspending and regulation paved the way for two years of stagflation. for more we bring in former acting chair of the council of economic advisers, thomas phillip son. what do you make jean-pierre's description and judge her historical accuracy if you will about what happen when had biden came into office? >> yeah, this is why i call bidenomics spinonomics. trying to make something look good that's not. we put people in jail nor false advertising and this is plain out lying from the podium and press secretary and president essentially. all thigh need to -- they need

to do is look at the economic report of the president for the last five years and see the difference and the performance we've talked many times here, david, about. real wages are down under biden and up under tram and pre-covid and inequality -- trump and pre-covid was down under tram and now up under biden, many they care a lot about. i think it's just a sign of misleading and kind of insulting to the american people to try and pull something like this again. david: so that leads us to the question of where the economy is right now. where do you think the economy is going? i mean, the market continues to boom ahead. what do you think about the economy in general? >> well, most economists, if you look at -- it's interesting. if you predict what the fed will do, a lot of economists predict the fed will cut rates and implicit in that is we'll have a downturn in the economy because the fed has been adamant saying that if we don't have a downturn, we're not cutting rateds essentially. so i think a lot of economist

and we've been saying for a long time that it's going to go down. but it's too hard to predict the economy. if you've been involved with sort of sausage making or economic forecast and it's a difficult thursday and saturday and can no one can do -- task and no one can do it, including the fed. fed policy and bureaucrats running the economy essentially with interest rate policy is so damaging because the fed in particular is very bad at forecasting what's going on and those forecasts are obviously needed for setting the right policy. david: all right, inflation. let's focus on inflation for a second. jeremy seeing and will other an -- siegle and other analysts say we've lick it had and it's a done deal. look at what americans face when they go to shop for groceries, and you look at other indicators like for example gold popping up to $2,060 an ounce. what do you think about inflation? there's signs it's still with us? >> yeah, look at producer and

it's essentially been very, very timid a lot lately and obviously inflation is coming down. i tend to believe this is a classical monitor phenomena and enormous growth and monetary supply with the fiscal and fed pumped money into the economy and financing the debt in 2021 and 2022 essentially. i think that's the classic response to that kind of behavior that we're seeing. david: tom, i'm getting a wrap it. i have to do this last bit because it comes full circle talking about misinformation coming from this particular white house. biden's education secretary came out with a remarkable comment today quoting conservative president ronald reagan. roll tape. >> as, i think it was president reagan said, we're from the government and we're here to help. there are resources there, there's technical assistance there, and there's a play book that can support the work you're doing. count on us as a partner in

this. our students are waiting. david: he quoted ronald reagan but left out a very important quote. roll that tape. >> the most terrifying words in the english language are, i'm from the government and i'm here to help. david: the nine most terrifying words in the english language are i'm here from the government and now -- that was his point. it's not that government is good. it's too much government is bad. >> yeah and you've seen this the last three years, i think excessive regulation, increased spending and enormous interventions into the economy has done no good so i think it's reaffirming what reagan had to say. david: tom phillipson, thank you very much. still ahead, congressman andy biggs, legal spokeswoman for donald trump alena habba and byron york. they're all with us. and instagram's algorithm accused in the investigation of catering to adults that could have very sorted interests in our kids.

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treated. he's going to come in, give a closed door accept cigs, the way he would -- deposition the way he would if he was litigating a criminal or civil matter. if he wants to go public, i'm certain we'll try to accommodate that, but you need to have a deposition where we get to ask questions, the democrats get to ask questions, but it's not a five minute charade that some of these congressional hearings. this is to actually get at the truth. his terms are unacceptable to me and i'm sure chairman comer. david: what could you say in a closed door hearing that you couldn't in an open door? >> first of all, the time of it is an hour. if i wanted to sit down and ask questions, i can ask questions s and follow up questions and go back and forth. in a congressional committee, it's five minutes a pop and that doesn't do very good to getting at the truth often. david: for years, hunter biden was getting away with quite a

bit. he had david weiss as the prosecutor and he was slow walking this case for five years and all kinds of deals being made and one that a judge stopped from being done. suddenly that stopping seems to have got under his skin in thinking that he could as the vice president and then the president's son get away with practically anything. is that what's going on here? he's just upset he's not getting his way anymore? >> i think that may be part of it. don't forget he had very serious charges and the statute of limitations was allowed to run on the changers. what's happening here is we're getting nearer and nearer the absolute truth here. he doesn't like it. he was fairly passive and we're just -- in our investigation now that he's the central focus and we're bringing him in, he's going to have to respond. i think this is his way of trying to fight it.

he has to come and respond because we've set it up and followed the rules. we've issued the subpoena, and i think he just wants to avoid testifying. david: politico came out with a piece saying he thinks this is the time of our -- in our history when the only way to get anything is screaming for it and being br belligerent and the pln for the new reelection campaign and they also suggest that some democrats want to throw the guy under the bus. he's too much of a drag on the president's reelection campaign. they say -- they talk to democratic lawmakers who were betting on the political expediency of sacrificing hunter. what do you think is going on in the democrat's mind as we head into the election on this? quickly. >> hunter really is the liability for the democrats and many would like to cut him loose. he provides a distraction from

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it's obvious -- someone is not and it's obvious the democratic party is not. david: black lives matter wrote cofounder and founder of blm incorporated, mark fisher, the man speaking, making the shocking declaration that he's backing former president trump in 2024 instead of president biden, who he called by the way a "deep disappointment". sienna college poll found biden's disapproval rating is growing among black and hispanic voters in battleground states. chief political correspondent byron york joining me now. there's a lot of talk about among democrats about being woke. if this doesn't wake him up, i don't know what will. here's a blm official saying he's voting for trump. >> yeah, you can look for race-specific reasons for things like this, but i think one big reason is black voters think joe biden s is too old to be president. just like everybody else thinks

he's too old to be president. there's a few other reasons like black voters are not happy about the way joe biden opened up the u.s. and mexico border to allow millions to enter and look for jobs illegally. david: it's not just black voters. there's other bases of people and groups that democrat haves counted on. hispanics as we just showed in that poll, maybe put that pull up again, it's disapproval rating among blacks 40% and among hispanics, 57% disapprove and then you have the poll of young folks aging 18-29 and biden thought they were in the bag particularly after all the talk of forgiving the student loan debt. 47-46. it's a dead heat among young people. >> yeah, among hispanic voters it's another one of those things and look at another reason everybody is unhappy and they're particularly hit by inflation.

they're finding it difficult to buy a house, houses are too expensive and mortgage interest rates are very high and they're concerned by those things. david: byron, they also -- >> and concerned about the border. david: yeah, exactly. i married a hispanic and close to the community. they can't stand the fact that what they worked so hard for, that is the green card and citizenship after that is now being offered willy nilly to all the people coming in with all the same rights or even more rights than they have, than taxpayers have. >> yeah, it's very disturbing to them that literally millions of unvetted people are coming across the border and most importantly being allowed to stay. as far as young people are concerned, that's something that really has democrats pretty worried right now. they are the most likely to say that joe biden is too old to be president. as a matter of fact for some of the youngest voters, biden is old enough to be their great grandfather and this is

something that obviously they notice and think is a real, real problem w. a lot of voters, you have to remember, they don't like trump either. they don't like biden, they don't like either candidate and a lot of things could change in the next nearly year before the election. david: but regarding the age, i'm going to push back a little bit. there was another old president, not as old as biden was but ronald reagan was considered by many people to be too old. it turned in and out 1984 when running for reelection, he received 61% of the 18-24-year-old votes, 61%. i mean, only 30% went to democratic walter mondale and the point is sometimes younger people prefer the old oar folks. >> i will say that in both of those cases, '84 was a reelection year and performance in the first term really matters and i personally think as far as

age issue is concerned, if things were going really well in the country, if the economy was doing well, there weren't this inflation and people were buying houses and the world didn't seem to be blowing up, i think a number of voters would say, you know, the president is pretty old and he's kind of dotterring sometimes but, boy, things are going well. on the other hand if things are going badly and the president doesn't seem up to the job, they're more likely to believe he's simply too old for the job. david: yeah and frankly right now with interest rates up above 7%. yes, they've come down a little, still over 7% and a lot of young people can't even consider buy ago house right now. new home buyers are hard to find. byron, good to see you. thank you very much for being here. appreciate it. well, dr. marty makary is here coming up on failed biden policies after president trump is looking for alternative. we have sad news, influential

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welcome dr. marty makary. good to see you again, doctor. is getting rid of obama care a popular position do you think? >> what's really unpopular is the high price of healthcare and and nothing has seemed to work. the affordable care act came with a promise to lower health insurance by $2500 per individual and failed. in the objective measure, it failed. what's really popular is price transparency. getting more competitive markets. that was a signature achievement by the trump administration, and it's been upheld by the biden administration because it's so popular. you don't hear a lot about it, but it threatens the giant monopoly pricing going on with hospitals right now. that's what people are excited about. david: you know, there was another charge against obama care ten years ago saying if you have obama care you'll lose your doctor and health insurance and you did quite afternoon and it

was enormous expansion of medicaid to include a lot in the middle class for whom it was not originally intended. it was for the poor that couldn't afford medical care at all and now it's expanded. jowski system of articulation i think everyone in america wants to see access to healthcare for everybody. the problem is if it's not affordable, people can't get it. what we did with the affordable care account is lowered number of un-jury was duly sworned americans from 44 -- uninsured americaned from 44 down to 26 and the deductibles are so high that they avoid medical care ask 60-80 million people and increase the number of functionally uninsured and no one is willing to tackle the giant problem of high prices in healthcare. the affordable care act made

insurance companies super rich. we had a rule they could only keep 20% of premiums as profit so the formula became drive those premiums as high as you can because you can only keep 20%. that has been the reason insurance prices going through the roof. david: making it political on trump's stance on obama care, roll tape. >> my predecessor one again, god love him, call for cuts that could rip away health insurance for tens of millions of americans in medicaid. nee just don't give up. but guess what? we won't let these things happen. david: again, he's drawing the fear factor in there that folks like me are approaching the point where medicare will become the charm, we'll lose out on it. any truth to that? any truth to what he's saying threatening that if trump is elected, he'll get rid of medicare? >> well, look, there's broad

support in the united states by both political parties for basic common sense reforms that we've got and getting rid of preexisting conditions, stopping lifetime caps, keeping kids on parent's plan till they're 26. there's no argument there. the question is how do you get healthcare to more people? you've got two choices: lower the price of it or throw good money after bag and broken system. right now the government spends about 50% of its entire budget on healthcare in the many hidden forms and seniors are using social security checks to pay for healthcare, the military has their own healthcare system, the va is separate. so we're spending money on healthcare in so many ways beyond medicare and medicaid, it's half the budget and we've got two choices, throw more money into the system or cut the waste? david: yeah, very quickly, doctor, we've talked a complete the catch this before, but the pneumonia that seems to be spreading worldwide now apparently is really began in china, once again, another virus from china.

how big a threat is this? >> doesn't appear it's a true threat. what's happening right now is the hospitals are crowded in china because the seasonal virus, there's a whole bunch of them, are infecting people that were suppressed with covid lockdowns. they had covid zero policies up till january of this year, there's immunity debt and we're seeing chinese people get infected. david: yeah a lot of people wondering whether the vaccine may have made us more vulnerable too in some ways. that suspicion creeped in a lot of people's minds. d great to see you. thanks for being here. >> thanks, david. david: instagram at gather algom that could have sorted interest in the kids and one reporter on that report. first checking in with dagen and sean in the next hour for the bottom line. >> hey, david. uae, they're trying to sell oil to the countries coming to the uae.

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david: a shocking new investigation for "the wall street journal" may have revealed the dark side of instagram's algorithm. hillary vaughn on capitol hill with more on this. hillary. reporter: good evening, david. this investigation from "the wall street journal" didn't just show that meta's algorithm for instagram reels served up inappropriate sexualized video of children to adults, but they did so all next to ads for some mayor u.s. brands. meta says they know this is a problem, they've invested billions to try and stop it

telling fox business in a statement this, we don't want this kind of content on our plat for the purposes and brands don't want their ads to appear next to it. we continue to invest aggressively to stop it. our systems are effective at reducing harmful content and we've invested billions in safety, security, and brands suitability solutions. as part of the investigation, "the wall street journal" used new devices and instagram accounts to follow gymnasts, cheerleaders and other young influencers and followed users who also followed those accounts. the recommendations went from disturbing to dangerous recommending reels that combined a mix of adult pornography and child sexualing material mixed in. meta says this study is not reflective of reality on reels saying this, these results are based on a manufactured experience that does not represent what billions of people around the world see. but "the wall street journal" investigation reveal that had some of meta's own employees disagree that meta is doing enough to stop salacious content

of children from popping up for users and meta employees told the your honor that child sexualization content was known to be a problem and the company's safety staffers were bradley barred from making changes to the platform that might reduce instagram's daily active users by a large amount. david. david: hillary vaughn, thank you very much. with me now for reaction is one of the journalingists that broke the story, wall street journal catherine blunt. thank you for being here a. shocking story. very last point that hillary made that there may have been reluctance to change the algorithm because they could lose viewers even though the horrible stuff was going on? >> yes, this is, i mean, this is a theme that we've reported in the past. it's something the company has struggled to wrap it is arms around over the years and the algorithms work really well for regular users interested in a range of general content and helps them connect with things

they might find interesting and does a lot to propel the revenue and profitability of instagram and facebook. to sort of pair it down elements of the algorithm that could help control some of the harmful content could have collateral damage and statements in the company about how much is appropriate given the business model. david: having reported for "the wall street journal" myself, i'm interested in how this investigation began. did you start out by wanting to dig into this particular area or did it come up while investigating something else? >> absolutely. so my colleague and i first published the story back in june that really looked at instagram because the plat for the purposes algorithms are especially good at linking people with niche interest with content they might find interesting or engaging and that works quite well if you say you're an enthusiast as it relate toss building model airplanes or ships and bod els or something akin to that. it's a minority among users and

can help you find that content very easily u but unfortunately it works exactly the same way with people with -- in this case as we exam p pedophilia interes. it not only hosts pedophiles on the flat form and hosts -- platform but hosts communities that connect them and this investigation was an outgrowth of that. we wanted to test the way the algorithm reacted if we gave it a very limited number of signals. with these devices, we simply followed young, you know, preteen and teenage influencers, many of whom in the athletic world whether it be gymnastics or cheerleading and even with that input alone, the algorithm detect that had the clean devices acted similar to other accounts of pedophilia interest and they engaged with sex-related content in a child context o as well as adult sex context. david: and the possibility of course and we've got to make

this quick last question is what about the kids who are using this who stumbled upon these horrible images? >> well, to be clear, these test accounts gave it such a limited number of signals that the intensity of the video streams that we saw were probably a bit more intense than a child might encounter but the fact of the matter is this is probably part and parcel to the experience a child might have on the app or one their parent might have if they're on the account. david: it was a very important investigation. i'm glad you got to the bottom. there's a lot of questions to be asked. catherine blunt for the wall street journaling. thank you so much. >> thank you. david: latest on $250 million civil fraud trial for donald trump. we have trump attorney alina habba next on "the evening edit". >> i have to be here for the part but you have to be here and it's a want to be here. it's a scam. this is the case that should have never been brought and it's

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david: donald trump on going highly politicize so-called so call fraud trial in new york city a deutsche bank gave testimony today. donald trump is due back in court i believe december 11. i know who knows the answer that is legal spokeswoman for donald trump, it is

alina habba. i have shown you this before. off camera, i want to read to you legal beforeniti -- definition of fraud, aflapplied under state law, such matters larceny, theft, embezzlement, wrongful con version, willful misapplication for any authorize fraudulent or dishonest acts resulting in financial loss. where was the financial loss in the case. >> new yorkarys ires new yorkers that are paying letitia james. the trump organization played hundreds of millions in payroll taxes and employees thousands of

employees. today of we had multiple deutsche bank witnesses, testify that it didn't matter his value was so high, even if you cut it in half, he still would have been fine, and touch deutsche bank would have gotten same terms, there is no need to waste taxpayers dollars on this witch-hunt, we have proven the case, there was no fraud, the banks money, the president is more than his statements of financial condition. david: has any bank suggested they lost money because of their dealings with donald trump. >> every bank has made money, there has never been a default, when there were holidays trump organization played early. david: attorney general letitia james brought the case claims that there was probable loss because of the fact that the banks could have made more money on

interest, to which you say? >> i say, they all go the paid early -- got paid with interest and early ahead of the loans, assets were worth more than the financial condition. it doesn't make sense, new yorkers should be afraid, letitia james is puts her nose to private contracts where there were no victims, people -- everyone on both sides of the contract kept their word, kept their deal and made money, because she ran on trump, and this is the political election interference that we're seeing, stop him. david: all americans should be concerned about the way this has been -- first the judge decided he was guilty before the trial, and not only there was a gag order against him but against you as well, last time, you could not talk about a lot. you won that case. >> we had it stayed now we're appealing it. appellate decision was great, they saw it for what

it was, a constitutional first amendment right, a 6th amendment r right. i was not allowed to speak about it in court or out. david: seems that judge in case, came out with his guilty verdict before trial began, he is a political judge, he was particularly interested in you keeping that information about his clerk secret. >> there were threats according to him, i would like for him to meet the world we're in. there are threats and polarization of anyone who takes political stances is because that is what the biden administration, what we live in right now, wokeness and polarization, that is what president trump wants to get rid of, you see what happens with law clerk, there is no place for that when you go to a judge, a clerk's office, they are a

arbiters, they did not follow, that inch is ignoring the judge would not even read our mistrial papers. david: now you are free to talk, do you think that the american people have won so far? >> i don't know that american people have won, we need to win in 2024 to get americans back. david: alina habba thank you. >> joining us tomorrow house majority whip tom emmers, ron johnson and bill mcgurn, i am david asman in for elizabeth macdonald, here they cam, dagen mcdowell and sean duffy. dagen: thank you, david. dagen: i am dagen mcdowell. sean: i am sean duffy welcome to the bottom line. >> a den