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♪ neil: it is cold outside our studios, not as cold as yesterday. two reasons we are talking about the weather. a huge arctic blast selling into the eastern united states, the same blaster that slammed the great lakes region dumping snow in upstate new york and tonight is the big christmas tree lighting in rockefeller center. new yorkers hope the weather holds up but the police department giving a heads up talking get pro palestinian protesters crashing the party tonight like they did in washington dc when strong winds top of the christmas tree. we will keep monitoring the weather because coast-to-coast is next. welcome, everybody.

we will keep you up-to-date on how the weather could affect a lot of things, a big celebration tonight. we are following more hostages being released in israel and extending that truce, first to the rally that defies all that has it had since the war began. for the latest to the stock exchange, good to see you. what do you make of the resilience of this rally. >> the end of october went to -- we not only bounce back but the levels that we maintained the, november and december, acting true to form, a few good times to come in the new year. neil: what is odd is house a quickly sentiment can shift

among the investment community. traders are pricing in about a 78% chance the fed will cut rates by may. can you imagine? >> may is a fair look at it. i will go two at a time. we have one in december. the first one in the new year is january and we stare the course. governors have been on the talking trail and they believe we are on the right path. it won't be snap our fingers and lower rates. they will take their time. jay powell has been methodical in his delivery and i don't think he will say cuts are coming soon but may and june, a cut of 25 basis points is a no-brainer. neil: stock was up 8%, a $10 billion share buyback raising

its dividend by 33%. that paves the buying all the more. >> in the case of gm and ford they've been under a lot of pressure, they survived their strike. welcome news for shareholders but let's see how that changes the new year. for other companies this is tremendous news. a lot of earnings beating lower bars, earnings expectations going up and a holiday season that got off to a good start. more fuel to the fire. neil: it is human nature to look at the half-empty blast, you were mentioning the retail performance, shoppers have been busy, the flipside, putting it on credit and running out of money and time. where are you on this raging debate? >> credit card debt is at an

all-time high but put it in perspective, is it at an all-time high relative to savings? not even close. what i am looking at our consumers still spending and they are shifting their spending. the buy now pay later stocks are on a nice run, they say i don't want to put this on a 30% credit card. stocks have been on tremendous run and have a little ways to reverse. that is the new way they are adjusting to these higher rates. it's amazing how resilient they continue to be. adam: lost an iconic figure in the financial community, charlie bunker, a tagteam among many others. he was famous for saying i'm not great at timing things. in the long haul stocks are the place to be but the days of low hanging fruit, that they were

gone. he said that a few weeks ago. i wonder what you make of that and his message about these markups. >> talk about an icon down here. i was blessed to see him walk the floor once in my 30 years and there was in our about him. as far as that goes there's truth in what he says even until the last few weeks. he did a podcast. he knows the easy days of stock picking low-lying fruit are gone. you pay for value, that is something berkshire hathaway got a little bit on this news but looks like it wants to break to new highs. you can learn a lot and i'm hearing new quotes minute by minute as tributes keep pouring in and he will be missed. jack: i'm not into fads.

he is way beyond that. it says a lot. always great talking to you. >> we have a tree lighting here if it gets too crazy at rockefeller center, hundred anniversary of our tree lighting at the stock exchange should be a fun event. neil: great to see you. let's go to the hostage exchange, this isn't to a sixth day to facilitate this but doesn't mean it is going to be the seventh day, we are keeping track of it. >> negotiations are continuing in qatar to see if this pause in the fighting would be extended yet again but i can tell you that the prisoner hostage exchange today, the sixth day in a row, is underway. we are awaiting the official

transfer of 12 hostages from hamas to the red cross in gaza. 12 hostages, 10 of them israeli women, two of them hold dual citizenship in russia and israel, this is believed to be a gesture by hamas to vladimir putin. the white house is hopeful that an american is included. we will have to wait and see as we await confirmation the red cross has these hostages. eventually into israel by helicopter or buses to medical facilities where they will reunite with their families after 54 days in hamas captivity. the fifth consecutive exchange took place with 9 israeli women as old as 84 and a 17-year-old israel a girl coming home in exchange for 30 palestinian prisoners, two foreign workers

were released from gaza. a doctor at the siva medical center some of the hostages had injuries but all were in stable condition. we have new video of an israeli russian man reunited with his family. hamas is mainly releasing women and children but this was considered another gesture to putin. two military flights are set to land in egypt, three flights total all carrying humanitarian aid bound for gaza. us officials are working to extend the temporary cease-fire to secure the release of hostages and delivery of more aid into gaza but israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu applied more pressure on hamas with this message today. >> translator: no way we are going back to fighting until the end. this is the policy. the entire government stands behind it. the entire government stands behind it. the soldiers stand behind it, the people stand behind it.

this is exactly what we do. >> reporter: and israeli official said the only way there would be a longer pause in the fighting is of hamas releases all women and children currently being held in gaza. we will see if that is a negotiating position or if that holds true as negotiations continue and we monitor for official word that this sixth batch of hostages are in the hands of the red cross and will be making their way to israel. neil: by my math, the 10 being released today, that is the plan today we will have 80 such hostages who have been released, 230 or more have yet to be released including my next guest, rachel goldberg kind enough to join me from

jerusalem. have you heard anything? >> from my son? neil: about your son. >> we haven't heard anything. the current categories are for children and women. we were not expecting, the couple of men who were released were released as previously mentioned. one was a russian young man, that was a paper to vladimir putin and a lot of the tire nationals were released and that was a favorite to iran but within the categories being negotiated for nationalities, it is just for children and women so hirsch, my son,

wouldn't be in either of those categories. neil: what did you hear anything about him? anything at all? >> nothing. that is the most painful and challenging and excruciating part, that 54 days ago our loved ones were stolen and we have not had any confirmation of anything. we bagged different humanitarian aid organizations for anything that they could tell us and we don't have any of that. put your self in our shoes. it is an unimaginable place. neil: was he at this music festival where this first started?

>> it was that the music festival celebrate his 23rd birthday with his best friend, they escaped to a roadside bomb shelter when the massacre took place. hamas came in and through in hand grenades and shot machine gun fire into this 5 x 8 foot room that had 29 young people who had been at the music festival. imagine the carnage that was there. hirsch and up having his arm blown off from the elbow down. his best friend was killed. as were most of the kids who were in that room with him and we have a video of him being led by gunpoint to a pickup truck where he was put on the pickup truck with a couple

other young men, 23 years old, they were taken in the direction of gaza. 's last cell phone signal was 10:25 in the morning on october 7th. neil: he survived that original carnage. you hope that somewhere, hoping for the best, keep us posted. would love to have you back. keep us posted. rachel goldberg on all of that. i want to bring you up-to-date on the sensation around nikki haley, jamie dimon the latest to say we got to help nikki haley. he follows the likes of can landgone who is interested in talking to the former presidential candidate, american for prosperity action, considerable financial muscle behind helping nikki haley,

tens of millions of dollars in its arsenal to help her out in iowa, new hampshire, but this growing conga line in support of nikki haley has momentum. whether that translates into poll numbers or pulling a victory in iowa is anyone's guess. we are keeping an eye on that and frigid midtown manhattan, not as frigid as yesterday. a lot of people are excited, the lighting of the rockefeller christmas tree is scheduled for tonight but so are protests on behalf of palestinians who are expected to protest, to do the same in new york. you don't have to be here. we are on it after this.

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neil: we are waiting news the 10 more israelis have been released. this is been going on for six days. there is a move afoot to get this truce extended so more hostages can be released to.

it comes with congress weighing aid to israel and some democrats want to attach strings to that aid. the senate committee on finance, an important committee. always good to have you. where are you on this whole aid to is real, some are saying got to be careful and allocate more carefully. >> we will have that debate. i've heard strong arguments on both sides. with respect to ukraine funding which is absolutely essential if the israel aid is to make sure we get this done in a bipartisan way. we will have to see what it takes at the end of the day. in the meantime it is important for your viewers to know and to

be reminded that is real is dealing with a death cult in hamas. people who saw the footage that i saw yesterday here in the senate of what happened to the families that hamas attacked would conclude the same thing and israel's life is made more complicated by the fact that this cult is willing to put civilians in between them and the idf. knowing that, israel for the sake of israel and the sake of the votes of us with high aspirations for democracy has to meet the highest standard possible in its conduct of this war. whether that comes with conditions or not from the us, i don't know the answer to that. what we ought to be concerned

with is israel's ability to protect itself and israel's conduct of the war in no way that meets those high standards and that is whatever the outcome is. i hope that is what we are collectively going to achieve. neil: we have had this hostage release going on, three times as many palestinians have been released as israelis. 7 weeks ago. i wonder whether you share the view your colleagues do that hamas is stringing everyone along using this time to rearm and get ready for the next phase of this war. >> i don't have any doubt. everybody should be clear eyed, that is what they are using this for. they know the agony the woman

you just had on the program is going through. people who don't know if their loved ones are still alive. some people learned their infants have been killed. she doesn't know and if you listen to the families of hostages what they said to the israeli government, this is what all of us would say, our priority is to get the hostages out and as a result of that we have been able to reach, the israelis have been able to reach an agreement to suspend the conflict so the hostages can be released even under circumstances you are talking about and it has to be recognized the hostages were taken by hamas. you are right about that. it is the right thing to do because the hostage families have asked for it and it is what each of us would ask for if we had a loved one like

hirsch's mom or hirsch if we had a loved one ripped away from us by hamas. neil: i admire your calm in stepping back and figuring it. >> good to see you. neil: we are telling you about the goings-on at the rockefeller christmas tree lighting. the nypd has a warning. others will need them including pro-palestinian protesters, the same type of showdown in washington. alexis mcadams with the latest. >> reporter: you can check it out here. the nypd is using one of our first technologies to monitor the crowds and the protesters because they expect to see lots

of protesters for what they are calling flood the tree for gaza. >> we are prepared, we have some extra layers in the name of the game is people come out, be safe, have a great time as far as protesters, by no means do we allow you to bring hate or damage property. >> you can see the barricades with the drone technology, some things they are doing to beef up patrols. you can see some of their trucks and crews near rockefeller center but they are expecting those big crowds but they are used to this. it happens weekly. they responded to hundreds of protests since the october 7th attacks and groups calling for the protests are the same ones that shut down the manhattan bridge on the busiest travel day of the year and interrupted the macy's thanksgiving day

parade. >> standing tall, allowing them their first amendment and their presence tells mom you can voice your opinion but when they start breaking property resulting people which has been minimal, we will take quick and swift action and they know that. >> reporter: quick and swift action to make sure everyone stays safe at the tree lighting. neil: when we come back, elon musk after charges of anti-semitic remarks, hamas is saying why not pay us a visit? we're passing on a cultural heritage, the culture of the west when the federal government started giving money to colleges, we didn't take it. that independence has allowed us to stay with our mission that we established 175 years ago. because we don't accept federal money,

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because hamas feels left out after an audience with top is really officials. he smoothed over the wrinkles with controversial remarks. lauren seminary has been exploring this. i can't see this happening. lauren: he went to israel for his smoothing over tour during the cease-fire which there is only hours left unless they extend it. days removed from that visit where he toured a cobalt's where abigail was from and he saw the damage. he's been issued a challenge by the leadership of hamas. watch here. >> translator: we extend the invitation to elon musk to visit gaza to see the extent of the massacres and destruction committed against the people of gaza. in compliance with the standards of objectivity and credibility. >> reporter: hamas says there's two sides to every story.

elon musk responded with hesitation saying it seems a bit dangerous. and on monday, they spoke of the propaganda put out by hamas says it is amazing if they are fed lies since childhood those intent on murder must be neutralized. he owns x, social media platform that gives voices to any side to all sides. and he would imagine on social media, and if the fighting resumes. card

partnership, has become official. apple started this. what happens in the senior industry analyst, apple is trying to provide that but not sure it counts with this online bank. >> it is nothing likely to change in 15 months. the portfolio will be sold to another company. it is rumored to be in the running so there's the credit card piece, the savings piece. this kind of thing happens a lot and your mortgage get sold to a different servicer. from the consumer standpoint it is business as usual, and the consumer finance business it

has established in the past few years. it hasn't worked out for them. neil: and the retail is the latest example of not working out so does it go back to just we like rich people and going to hang out and handle rich people. >> investment bank and private wealth management, if you try to move in consumer finance, it's a big initiative for david solomon. it has gotten in hot water with respect to job security. the feeling was rivals like chase and city and wells fargo are big diversified banks with the big consumer business and

wealth management and trading operations. goldman tried to jump into consumer finance. there are successes with the market savings brand but it hasn't been profitable. they've been slowly unwinding this, they sold off their buy now pay later division and exiting general motors credit card partnership. it is really just an effort to double down what made the bank successful for a long time. neil: has there been any radon accounts, people trying to clear it out, anything like that, nervous and withdrawn first and ask questions later? >> not that i'm aware of and there should be no panic because these are fdic's insured accounts. goldman at least for now will operate its savings products. that's when accessed of

consumer finance, i would not be surprised if they pulled back on it. the apple savings piece will transfer to a new bank and the same with the apple credit card. it's it to back end processing kind of thing. neil: you know your stuff. very interesting read. ted rosman, the senior analyst, the dow 117 points, interest rates at a round of 4 and one 12:45%, the big story is all of these protests they are waiting for in new york, what they experienced in washington dc. it is not just crime getting to be a problem but protests bedeviling businesses trying to do their thing.

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washington. >> reporter: washington dc has captured the spotlight for the wrong reasons whiteley. over the holiday weekend the district hit its 250th homicides. the problems don't end there. the latest shows robberies up 68% compared to last year. motor vehicle theft up 93%. violent crime now up 40%. dc's police union says the low morale and their department which lost a lot of officers since the pandemic. union says since 2020 a lot of officers left dc. dc city council hearing from the community and law enforcement about a new effort to crack down on crime. or addressing crime trends. it would prohibit hoods from committing crimes or threatening others. it would designate organized retail theft is a felony and empower police to better enforce anti-lawyering laws, to

go on for a few days at a time as opposed to just breaking up a crowd but also establish clear-cut rules on be a killer pursuits. council members are glad this discussion is happening. >> it's very healthy because we've got to get past this public safety crisis and get on with continuing to build the future of our community for everyone. >> reporter: mayor muriel bowser supports this proposal urging the council to adopt it quickly but the mayor is getting ready to leave the district, in dubai for a un climate summit. she's addressing crime, declared a public health emergency to address a rise in crime but there is so much talk about what can be done it is unclear whether this is going to get accomplished anytime soon. neil: thank you as always. mark meredith on deck.

the managing director of restaurants and bars, some action comes here but besides the crime, you deal with the protests, what is the latest? >> this has been going on for over a year and we are reporting it because it has gotten so bad. in our 2000 square-foot area of town, almost 900 reported crimes. obviously coming out of the pandemic it was a slow start, a struggle, an uphill battle but if you don't have a commitment from city leadership in order to get out of that mess that was created, what else are you going to do? crime is rampant at this point.

neil: you are in some nice neighborhoods. i wonder what is going on. did the city do anything to address it, the mayor acknowledged it so that's a start but little follow-through. carjackings are getting to be a problem. how do you run a business in that environment? >> we have had armed carjackings up the story, 13 or 14-year-old shot dead because they tried to carjack a federal police officer off-duty. we had marked police cruisers carjacked, at least one that i know of. it has gotten so bold, my question is why aren't we allowing the police to do their jobs. there's a lot of frustration in

dc metro. they want to do their jobs but one exception, there are biker gangs going unregistered rolling down the street and instead of stopping them the police stopped the flow of traffic from the incoming intersections to allow them safe passage to go through the city because somebody has given them the direction that we are not to interfere and when the same biker gangs went across the bridge to arlington and alexandria those police department stopped of them dead in their tracks. why can't dc do the same thing? neil: hanging and keep us posted on this. the biker gang thing alone is craziness. managing director rand ceo, brian brenberg with what's coming up on "the big money show".

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individual and in 2016 when we were covering this race none of us thought he would win let alone he would be running again. he has really captured such a strong base but also captured a lot of people who really dislike him and that will decide 2,020, if there are more people like trump or dislike trump, it is not whether people love joe biden. the race becomes about trump. is not yet the gop nominee but he's in track to do so unless something really significant happens with someone like nikki haley or ron desantis who are competing for the trump alternative but far behind trump in the polls. neil: what do you think of the surge to nikki haley? i mentioned jamie dimon urging business leaders to commit to her. we've seen the koch network,

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