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>> even for is a lot, for some reason i went straight to the number 312 tons a day. stuart: a modest diet. >> i know the guy that weighs the plankton and really go with number 28 tons per day. >> you know the guy, you do not. i looked up how big is a blue whale, is the size of a ten story building, therefore i assume it needs a lot of plankton therefore i'm going with number four, 16 and the answer is correct, well done stu, the answer is 16 tons, that is over 35000 pounds of food each day in the blue well is the largest animal to live on our planet. it's actually a mammal it is not a fish. time is up, ashley thank you for being with us, mike we will see you again soon, "coast to coast" starts now.
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neil: you just are the presidents on guilty on all accounts no surprise in the stock market ignoring it, no surprise. hunter biden could face serious prison time, unlikely but he could be. you know something about investors if they shrugged their shoulders at donald j trump becoming a convicted felon do you think they would reacted indifferently to president biden son becoming a convicted felon as well. will go to market watch bobby to get a sense of this, i want to very quickly pass along the statement and i'll share with you from president joe biden about his son's conviction. >> i'm the president but i'm also a dad, jill and i love our son and proud of the man he is today. so many families, he goes on to write have had loved ones battle addiction understand the feeling of pride seen someone come out on the other side to be so strong and resilient in recovery
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and i also said last week i will accept the outcome of the case and will continue to respect the judicial process as hunter considers an appeal. jill in thy will be there for hunter and the rest of our family for 11 support nothing will ever change that, from the president of the united states hearing his son is a convicted felon and found guilty on all of these charges and potential prison time could be more than 20 years unlikely as we say will be guided into that. you might notice the nonplussed reaction at wall in broad much more focused on other matters and it's those matters i want to go to bobby about, what do you think of this it might've been something that the mainstream media was following including ourselves but the market is something else, what is it? >> the market is not paying attention to the story at all everything is pointing to the fomc meeting i don't think that's it is surprise. >> that the federal reserve meeting the first of today's. there's not going to be an interest rate change but there could be a change in the tone and the most important thing there's good to be a new summary
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of economic projections, the sep or the dot plot, that is where you're likely to see the potential for a change in tone two more hawkish and more so than jerome powell's words or the words in the statement. neil: you and i talk about this, you go against the grain but you also know the flow of activity is still been in technology and nvidia and apple which is one of the few standouts today i'm wondering what you make of where were going because you get the hiccups in the summer and don't know how long they last the market normally shakes them off, when you think. >> this is the reason why we worry about the fed too much into little if the fed is not going to move rates than stocks are likely to continue higher even though the technical basis their overvalued. if you look at the s&p with almost a 28 evaluation historically closer to 16 over
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the last ten years closer to 2425. were a little bit overvalued versus recent metrics a law overvalued versus history but if inflation is starting to ramp up which i know you believe it is stocks react well to inflation until the fed search to find it even harder which are not planning on doing. neil: given an environment like this, the confluence of data would seem to be holding off for a while but if the fed were to cut it would be one of the things selling off on the fact because it looks like a distress call. you don't want to get into rate cut cycle, that's one of those be careful what you wish for, to the rate cut cycle, that means that they see in could be right about weakness in the overall economy some little tiny evidence of it here in there in the data input into a strong
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economy, wage growth, manufacturing, pmi and most of it is pointed up to the academy, if they cut stocks are likely to react higher and it won't be that day because it opened onto the bed of the statement in the positioning after cut. and they are certainly not hiking and that the fighting of inflation and they're not doing that and inflation is ramping up and asset inflation embedded in inflation. neil: full circle to what i'm starting out in the greatest development and hunter to biden in all the indictments with donald j trump at all the activity around hunter biden and all the noise there in it could have something to do with the market to your fine point looking at more important to remain matters that matter to investors. , i wonder if this is still an
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issue that could tip the presidential race one way or another, sued tuned to tell you would most likely see that much further along the summer early fall. >> i think most of us with hunter biden specifically who knew or felt he was guilty on some if not all the charges coming his way it's not a surprise and is not a change in our opinion of who were going to vote for in november especially this one, the things going on with former president trump that may, it's one of the things were so divided and such in each camp that these aren't going to affect anything and they're going to bolster things, this could look like a revenge guilty to some people on the left i think this is a guilty guilty personally i don't think has anything to do with trying to get at president biden. neil: stepping back from this, normally presidential elections
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in the way people sort of factor the men, it is a late summer early fall development but prior to that there is noise and we certainly don't ignore it and it seems like markets do and if there was a sense that is going to hurt joe biden more than it is donald trump and sensa markets typically favor the policies of republican, they're just taking trump or biden out of it, someone who's going to push for regulatory relief likely tax cuts, to most on wall street i'm just wondering if there's anything that alters that, a different reaction? >> it's a three headed monster if president trump were to win his inflationary president in the current environment, he was not in 2016 because there was not a sign of inflation at all we were at 0.1 month over month.
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if we get president trump now are likely to see more inflation because of stimulative things like tax cuts pulling away regulation and causing the economy to spark a little bit more there's not much the president can do but those are two things that could have impact on the overall economy and now the fed may start to react, that would be the reaction in the combination of the president having inflationary policies in the current environment while were already at two high inflation, i'm not knocking that i think it might be the right way to go but the fed may react and that would cause the rollover in my opinion that you're talking about. neil: were not seeing it yet but will watch closely, thank you very much. i want to go to guy lewis former u.s. attorney what he makes of this this was quick i think you would telegraph whatever decision would be made would be quick and that generally seem to signal what the jury did, now is the issue of what happens now,
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what do you think? >> i've done dozens and dozens of these and supervised hundreds, normally this would be about 12 months, 15 months but none of this stuff is normal you never mix politics and prosecution which we've seen over the past few years, in this case i would be worried if i was hunter's lawyer as their prepping for sentencing, why, you're being just a worrywart lawyer, no, here's why a lot of the evidence came in one about drug use and none of that stuff looked good and it secondly yes tax problems down the road as well. neil: that's a much bigger case i didn't mean to jump on you but that's as much bigger case and by that point if you're found
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guilty on any of the measures, now you have a criminal record here, it gets complicated. >> it sure does, if you start talking about consecutive time versus concurrent time, that is where the fight is in the criminal arena. let's say you get 12 or 14 or 15 months on this case and you get convicted on the tax case and you look at three, four, five years consecutive time and that's no good for any defended. >> these are always got calls, no wrong answer but i'm curious a president has made it clear at a sympathetic supportive statement on behalf of his son just a few minutes ago, he's already said that he wouldn't pardon hunter biden regardless and that was before his news, he is a dad and is a president of the united states and i'm wondering if he would wait until
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after the election whether he wins or loses and then do it what do you think? >> anybody who's been through this a lawyer or defendant or a family member there's a lot of people that i've watched this inventor in some fashion or form, there is nothing more hurtful or painful to go through this process it is hard as heck i don't care whether you love or hate trump or love or hate biden and it was interesting to see trump did not come out and give a celebratory tweet or anything it was almost magnanimous the one i read last night or this morning but if i am hunter's lawyer and he is a very, she's a very good experience lawyer i'm asking for a meeting next week in the white house. you are a dad, your son is going
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through this, thing about pardoning him into heck with the political consequences and if i'm hunter's lawyer that's what i'm advocating. >> maybe if i tell my own sons if this happens to them that was probably not the right thing to say. >> to convey the message. maybe a bit too soon, you are great, thank you so much for that, guy lewis following all of this he might hit on the emotional point, joe biden is a dad, the pressure to do something must be overwhelming on the emotional side, lee carter extraordinaire to get her read, the democratic poster sean cooperman research, welcome to both of you, we were notching back-and-forth, politics notwithstanding a father wrestling with something that means his son could in the worst case scenario be in jail the rest of his life, unlikely but he wrestles with that. >> he does wrestle with that it's a personal sad day and i
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think anybody who says anything else is political themselves, you gotta feel the emotion of the family and you cannot mistake it. and one of the things we're going to start thinking through how political are people going to think the system is if equal justice is applied on both sides who is going to have more sympathy for which family. right now it is sad across-the-board. neil: let me ask about that you will former president convicted felon and the son of the current president of a convicted felon and without being crushed politically, do they cancel each other out? and talk about the other stuff that the president is championing and his opponent is ripping right now? >> i think so, we very leasing coming out of the trump conviction that there's very
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little reaction, the slightest decrease in support of trump and voters have largely written the self as a political trial and were ticketed to heart in terms of how it impacted their vote and i think the hunter biden trial further cancels out and begin to see from these trials to these candidates and is going to be far more about two candidates running for president highly unpopular and this may be adds to it but we're still good to come back to issues in both candidates and ultimately in where their concerns are greater speed when i'm thinking of a historic significance of this member brushing them aside and convicted felon is a convicted felon and court cases and indictments at all that, not a
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factor, it's unbelievable that is not a factor, you think about how people have dealt with so many issues over time whether it was a fierce or lies or that kind of thing never talk about convicted felons and that's what were up against and it doesn't make that much of a difference. what i'm really interested to see what's going to happen donald trump has played the cards so hard about the two-tier system of justice in more than 70% of americans have bought into it they believe the two-tier system of justice not applied equally across-the-board i'm wondering if this verdict is going to take some wind out of the argument and people will say i'm not so sure in both cases they were convicted and is that political if there being convicted after all the connections and everything else that they've got. i'm wondering if that's can have
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an impact on donald trump in the long term or not. neil: obviously the race goes on, these guys are good to be debating in a couple of weeks in the issue comes back to what will be the issues that will dominate that. i imagine unlikely the court case that donald trump could be dealing with unlikely anymore before the election and the one that just passed neutralized by the president son and hunter and what happens with the tax case and will start around the time of the debate, the changes of the strategies here. >> from the democratic perspective, the fact that the other trials for trump are almost definitely not good to take place before the election is disappointing because democrats believe that the other cases are held against trump are significant and more problematic for trump or serious and the
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polling does show in some of these cases as it leads to in an election interference in these are issues that voters care about and quite frankly it's not going to play out in the way the democrats would've liked to see. i think it's an argument you can hear joe biden make on the campaign trail, the contrast of his leadership versus donald trump efforts to open democracy as a democrat see it it's going to be a big theme that they're going to carry out despite the fact that they will have the trials to hold trump accountable before the election. >> i guess i'll both come up with something, thank you very much. were told from the producer on the scene i want to end with this, hunter was still as a verdict was read he appeared motionless, wide as the guilty
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verdict was announced once all the accounts were read you turned around and hugged a member of his legal team stood up and smiled big, hunter kissed his wife melissa, they left the courtroom and a long security line getting back into the courthouse, noise of a verdict, some of the friends and families were not in the room at the time including initially his mother his stepmother joe biden, we will have more after this (vo) a law partner rediscovers her grandmother's artistry and establishes a charitable trust to keep the craft alive for generations to come. from preserving a cultural tradition to leaving a legacy, a raymond james financial advisor gets to know you,
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their connection is unreal. and we could all un-experience this whole session. okay, that's uncalled for. >> the federal reserve has kicked up the two-day meeting they will have a decision tomorrow likely no move at the meeting but sometimes a telegraph where they're going and they could signal something that would be born of data that they currently have in their hands including the inflation retail inflation report due out tomorrow for the month of may, edward lawrence following all the developments of the crosscurrents from that, these are the stuff that markets talk about, regardless of the biden family with a trump family, for the time being. , the market is looking forward to what the federal reserve produced tomorrow and that will affect mortgage rates, it's widely expected there will be no rate hike tomorrow but is
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looking were increasingly active first-rate cut could possibly come after the november election it depends on the inflation data included the report that we expect to get tomorrow mortgage rates are right about 7% at this point that's keeping many people from being able to afford bar when the money in addition to the inflated cost of a home chief economist for the national association of realtors said people need to reset the expectation for the mortgage rate, surprisingly because of government debt as president biden signed 7 trillion into law. >> we have a huge budget deficit a massive budget deficit, large government borrowing means there is less money for mortgage lending, as interest rate goes down, expect 6% were under mortgage rate, five and a half at best at three or 4% is not going to happen. >> less money treasury h enougha
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higher interest rate to attract buyers, the supply of homes historically at a low level according to the national association of realtors at this point, mortgages 87% of mortgages below 6% and 60% below 4% vice president, the hearers arguing that they need more time to get housing prices under control as well as rent but the homebuilders association believes the u.s. needs three to half-million housing units to build under balance supply and demand from the great recession as well as coming out of the pandemic you new regulation that has been added even to homes from last month would add about $30000 to the price of building new homes, he is concerned about the upward pressure and this affects the american dream out of reach for a lot of people because of the price. edward lawrence at the white house, kristen jordan back with us real estate agent extraordinaire she is good at what she does, she does not look at this as a housing doomsday,
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it is tough but how would you define it. >> is something that we haven't seen in our lifetime that we can remember. if you think about the last time that we spent a decade with rates that were sub 5% that was a 1950s, were seeing the rates that have come up and they're probably going to be there longer than we think and will have to metabolize them but i don't think we will see 20 years of double-digit interest rates like we did in the 70s and 80s. neil: the crisis word used a lot and if you cannot get a home or realize that a lot of people who own the homes are not letting go because mortgages and they don't want to give them up i get all of that but i also get my own history and we got our first mortgage, 13% without we were financial geniuses and i understand you get used to something in very low rates for a long, long time, the highest they are now is 7% or slightly
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under, higher but not as high as the past, perspective is everything. i believe right now we're going to see a slight correction and prices of homes this is the opportunity to get into the market. >> were not seeing that, that's what buyers are waiting for. >> there is a lag in the data entered data that we are singing what we know is working as location, location, location those are the areas that they're holding prices very, very strong and a lack of inventory in the top location in the u.s. that never had an issue in the first place, some parts of the u.s. that saul inflated demand that came from really cheap money that happened over the last five years. neil: correct me if i'm wrong it was built on people who shouldn't of gotten mortgages in the first place, much tougher standard but as they got tougher still that's going to complicate
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things. >> absolutely what we will see logging data around what's going on in the parts of the country that had artificially doubled the prices of the homes in areas where we don't know where the demand came from. it was people moving around the country for a little while where they can work remotely and access to a lot of cheap money. i think that's where we will see the lagging correction adjustment that will come over the next several quarters. neil: what about hot regions were receiving one right now in manhattan and i go to palm beach and california and some of the other in texas and elsewhere, what you see for them are they going to cool down or reverse the huge gains, give buyers a shot. >> the parts of the country that are the hottest are the luxury hotspots a whole pretty strong
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they could have seller sit on the inventory their wealthy they don't need to sell why would they sell if things are going to be incredible or they don't need to move there going to hold strong it's everywhere else where it's questionable where the demand came from and where the mass appreciation came from that's where were going to see some price adjustments. neil: when you say price adjustments what are we talking about. >> as much as five and 10%, absolutely. neil: not like the housing crash like the meltdown in 2007, eight, nine. >> were hoping that is not the case, it's yet to be seen, the last time we had a decade of very low rates is the time when people only bought one nice coat and add two nice pairs of shoes and they open their refrigerator and only had a little bit of food they were over consuming, were in a different place where we expect cheap money, overspend over consume in this credit card debt and so many layers to this that i don't think it is easy to say what's going to happen
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housing because it's all wrapped up and everything else. neil: who are the crazy people that don't have much in the refrigerator, what happened. thank you very much, kristen jordan on real estate, it is tough but to say it's the end of the world might be a bit premature. sean o'brien the national president, he wants to speak to republicans at their convention, democrats other convention and since the teamsters having committed to a candidate i'm taking the long shot but that both will let him. we will ask him next.
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neil: i'm proud as barack said to be the labeled most prounion in history, wall street is important a lot of good folks they did not build america, middle-class american unions built the middle class. >> the killing unions, their killing unions because the unions are not able to survive, they're not able to survive the onslaught it's making it impossible, they worked hard and long to get their salaries up a little bit, they're not able to do it, virtually 100% of the new jobs under biden have also gone to illegal aliens. >> both of those are trying hard to woo my next cash on o'brien is the guest of the brotherhood
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of teamsters, they are not committed to a presidential candidate as sean has a unique idea going to the conventions to pitches case for unions into the point of teamsters, he's kind enough to join us, how is that response of what you've gone from either candidate of their respective conventions. >> we put the ask and recently and we haven't got the commitment either way and to make certain they hear a voice loud and clear and what were demanding more from on behalf of not only teamsters but working people in america. neil: if one of them does not invite you is that where you say forget i am not endorsing you, from one of the most powerful unions in the country are very transparent and inclusive but more importantly 1.3 members nationwide, i don't know why
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anyone would take the opportunity to harass and listen to our wants and needs weaving forward, we are the greatest country in the world built by the union workers and there's no reason why we should have a voice. it's not about politics we do want to be utilized as political rhetoric or who can help working people, we will make sure people understand regardless of the dnr we need your help and need you to work with us to solve problems in the country. neil: was it a debate for your counterpart, shawn fain endorsed a biden and said it was no debate, why are you still waiting? >> again we are the most transparent union and inclusive, we did presidential forms at our union, we invited each and every candidate to speak to rank-and-file members and nostril pulling at each 331 locals throughout the united states where we are having a debate dialogue and more
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important rank-and-file participation in doing straw pulling in all kinds of pulling because we want to make the best decision that we have on our members and we want to hear our members voice, whatever the union did doctor politics but were to be inclusive and working to be transparent in this process. >> you have a history of democratic candidates rather than republicans. >> i believe george w. bush was the last republican you supported, your members like republican candidates were told but not so much leadership and that's what happens. >> for far too long we have contributed to the democrat support and i'm a lifelong democrat and i always will be, however, it's unfortunate when people assume they get our support because they have a d next to their names. we want action and results in the one thing we are committed to his being whatever choice we make and be in that person's conscience moving forward on behalf of our members.
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>> what do you think the latest dustup of shawn fain being investigated right now for the campaign on those that are not cooperating were doing what he says in modern whistleblowers in the union, i'm simplifying it but he seems to be drawing a lot of attention and not in a good way, what you make of that. >> it's good for me is not focused on me but the reality there is three sides to every story, i don't know the facts well enough obviously there's always due process with many investigations and the facts are going to come out and i guess you have to stay tuned to that. neil borofsky the monitor for the union and looks at what they do accusing the union of not cooperating in this investigation and when someone is conducted not cooperating that is a big no that could be a problem. >> we have a government oversight their policies and procedures that you're mandated to follow in the teamsters has
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been under a decree and i can only speak for my union we do pay attention to what is required of us and there's a mistake that is being made and hopefully it's something that can be corrected and not diminish all the good work that is done. >> let me step back, we talk about unions and politics in obviously donald trump raise some eyebrows speaking in las vegas it is very big out there saying he would have the irs and the tax on tips is not a slamdunk but that was very popular with members out of the union the little deploy as he called it the donald trump offered it worked with a lot of members and like the idea, what do you think of them. >> i'm optimistic on anybody that wants to support unions and every union has different wants and needs, people can say
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whatever they want to make these promises, the thing that matters the most they have to deliver on what they say they're going to do and that's part of this process and this confusion and historically politicians and not all of them there's good ones i have great credibility and politicians have made promises and never deliver on the and that's whether skepticism and hopefully use true to his word if you said youse going to do that if you selected. neil: let me ask you about the environment that unions are in right now, sometimes you're not a typical union leader and you speak softly and joke into any arguments but we do remember the one with mark wayne mole and the senator and i want to refresh people's memories where it got a little heated. take a look. >> let me read the last one is to greedy ceo who pretends who he self-made. i wish he was in the truck when
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i was building a plumbing company myself and my wife was running the office because i remembered working hard and long hours he pretend like he self-made, what a clown, fraud, always has been, always will be. quit the tough guy act in the senate hearings, you know where to find me, any place, anytime cowboy. this is a time and this is a place you want to run your mouth we can be to adults and finishing here. >> you want to do it now. >> i would love to do it now. >> stand your butt up. >> stop it. >> sit down. >> look at you your night is state senator. >> bernie sanders might've saved the day i don't know but every time i look at that i like how close did you get it never came to blows but you both promise to get together sometime at a diner i was going to be a broker at a
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denny's or ihop and you never call me and said did you ever get together. >> and thank you helps facility is cease-fire and we actually did meet and get together and there's a lot of things that we agree to disagree on and one thing we agree on is were both in positions from where we could act a little differently in the hearings but at the end of the day i have a constituency to serve and he does as well and it was very cordial and hopefully we can work together that is the focus we've been working on in the organization of building relationships. >> you didn't come to blows, was it in a diner. >> it was a small restaurant. >> were you recognized, your recognizable people. >> i'm not sure it's a small place i don't think the folks that are good. tension but it's no secret that we met and it's like anything else you take a step back and think about it and we can
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probably hopefully support some of our issues moving to the senate and he has a lot of union members in oklahoma and helps him as well to be working with us on certain issues. >> of senator sanders had not intervened you think it would come to blows or was that some that it was allstate. neil: i think -- i don't think it would escalated there was to be people, i can't jump over the board like i used to invite it took me a little while to get over the dais. neil: i had script from that day and its use saying something to the effect you're going down brother, is not true or false, i think there was a member from one of the locals in the area. neil: that doesn't sound like something you would say or he would say. >> keep us posted on whether you
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get to be at the convention or both, it's an interesting idea, getting a great deal of attention, good to see you again. >> always a pleasure, i have separation anxiety. >> very good seeing you, sean o'brien speaks his mind but i'm glad that didn't come to blow. we will have more after this. from recent grads... ...to rising stars... ...to living legends. —you got this. —thank you. vanguard's retirement solutions can help all your employees be well on their way to their financial goals. that's the value of ownership.
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neil: charlie gasparino and i were talking about the crazy markets, were down 304 points, were waiting on the fed and all that stuff there is a revolution beneath the surface, charlie has a great book coming out with the woke revolution, he's been picking apart what we seen happening on corporate boards those that want to dial this back. >> this is been going on for a while i get in my upcoming book, go woke, go broke due out in august 1 is been finalized. neil: what are you going to wear. >> allred. i love those things, i want to have the guts to wear that, here's my book covers. >> an excellent book, go ahead. >> you been kind enough to write a nice clear.
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this is been going on were even the purveyors of esg something about regular book and some i been writing in the new york post have been backing off, blackrock is backed off all of the pushing of esg proposals during proxy season that's when companies vote for shareholder measures, first off we should point out in these woke things are not universally approved with mainstream investors, you're getting involved in your basically trying to step on the rights of real investors and the stock that want the companies to make money and pay a dividend. >> this is been going on for a while there are new breed of activists i don't know if you remember jerry bowyer he is a longtime friend of mine economist jerry is leading an effort on the anti-woke corporate activism, bernie marcus his group the job
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creators network doing the same thing with alfredo ortiz. neil: is gone too far. >> the representing the pushback in now is bearing fruit because the esg proposal, is far from dead there's still doing it but the sg proposals, the last chapter of my book is woke is broken and that's all about the reversal of the sg which was all the rage, not as much anymore and obviously the woke backlash, let's face it, target sales have never really recovered from the controversy over mixing talk friendly bathing suits for people who haven't fully train and with kids stuff. >> money for the shareholders but sometimes these aren't public companies necessarily. what is the balance or should there be a balance, they're all
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in favor of diversity and people being included in trans people are friends, there are neighbors and her colleagues, the question becomes when is a heavy hand of the government where corporate policy tiktok when it comes to enforcing cultural change is when you have a backlash, now you really do have a backlash, this is budweiser for introducing the transgender beer drinker in a bubble bath and why they thought that was smart marketing is still not recovered in sales, this is a cultural thing, here's the thing i think corporate america in the conversation i have at length in the book with a rethinking others, should our major companies be involved in the culture war that is going on in this country, there is a culture war, should budweiser be
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involved, should target, should blackrock be involved, one of the things. neil: some seem wired for like apple seems to be pretty wired should they do that. will they have backlash if they are. in their case they don't appear to. optically they don't go out on the spectrum as much you have tim cook and maybe the biggest liberal in the world i don't hear him talk about it much. >> you think this is reversing this pendulum. >> it's not done but woke is being broken right now corporate america, that's the news that the book breaks. looking forward to that end to end it with some solutions and very controversial, that is you. >> is not my solution is solution by people on the front line. neil: i think there your solutions. your hanging onto them. the great charlie, will have much more after this.
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neil: all right, stocks might be having a devil of a time today particularly the dow but don't blame apple. it is up of an intraday record i believe but again, that's the close associated with a.i. and all these hookups of-late that could be the divisor make eventually iphones and there are 2 billion in the world and if they all carry their a.i. stuff probably on newer future model phones that's a powerful beach head to get to a party who admittedly came late to but we're following that and also just reminding you that we have former speaker paul ryan joining me today at 4:00 p.m. eastern time. he has been a critic of donald trump. he's been eucrite being about the direction of the republican party and politics in general, developments today meanwhile brian brenberg and the big money guys are now, hey, guys. brian: neil, we've got a few things to talk about so we'll take it from here. hello, everyone.
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