>> most of the time, the market goes down when the fed starts cutting because the market has already been expecting it. its already priced it in. the markets hardly been down the last few years you may have noticed. the left can do what it's doing in terms of the media and pretending kamala harris is something she isn't, but when trump asks, are you better off today than you were four years ago, the answer is very obvious. >> we have a price problem in this country and it has been caused by failed public policy. >> us stocks are not in a bubble.

you could do everything right in atlanta, georgia or new york city as an investor, to save for retirement and some yahoo half way around the world decides to attack israel to lead to a global sell-off. >> if you're paying more on your debt than protecting yourself, you're probably in a pretty bad situation and it's only going to get worse. stuart: i'm not wild. i'm just not wild. a young man, is that me? [laughter] an angry old man. 11:00 eastern time, and it is tuesday, august 13. check those markets. the rally holds. cooling inflation, investors love it. the dow is up 173. the nasdaq is up 274 points. big tech i presume, most of them are higher. yes, they are. nvidia apple microsoft alphabet and amazon on the upside.

look at the yield on the 10 year treasury. this is a positive for stocks. the yield is down to 3.85%. now this. there's a rising tide of criticism of donald trump from his own supporters and from some of her fellow republicans. it reminds me of the quiet low voice criticisms of president biden's cognitive ability before he was pushed out of his re-election campaign. nobody went out in public to get into withdraw until it was obvious he couldn't win. that's when the knives came out and bid el juan hustled out of the way. it is not like that with trump, but not all of the troops are happy. the hill brings it together with his headline, gop pleads with trump to control impulses. focus on policy. the article goes through a litany of problems. trump goes off on tangents. at his press conference he went off on a helicopter ride. he says he talked with former san francisco mayor willie brown. he's attacked allies like

georgia governor brian kemp. in short the kill says he lacks discipline. he can't deliver a coherent message. today, in the "wall street journal", gerry baker takes trump to task. here is the headline. trump is looking like a loser again. strong stuff. he writes, by my calculation about one-third of mr. trump's remarks fell into three categories. false,obtuse and he used foul language to describe kamala harris. how on earth will be win the vital women's vote. he's not listening. there's no way he could be removed from the ticket. it is not the same as the biden situation. he was removed when it became clear that his party didn't trust him to be president for another four years. he couldn't win the election. trump could do the job as president but can he win? there's a growing chorus saying if he won't win, he won't win if

he can't stay on-message. can't focus on policy, and refuses to change his language on women. two weeks ago it was trump's election to lose. it's now on election he has to fight to win and he's brought this on himself. third hour of "varney" starts now. jimmy failla with us this morning. am i being too harsh? >> no, he deserves credit for one thing. the willingness to take on the questions do the press conferences shows a level of transparency we're not getting out of the other side. kamala harris isn't even going out to dinner because they won't allow the waitress to ask her questions like what do you want for dinner. she's reading off a teleprompt erin the restaurant these days, okay? so the fact that he's out there, he does deserve credit but the issue is exactly as it was articulated. okay? i'll give you a boxing analogy in the movie "rocky" his manager keeps telling him the body the body the body because that's

where you win the match by weakening your opponent hitting him in the body. for trump the body is policy. he can win if he focuses on the body, the border inflation, those are deliverables to voters that she doesn't have, and i bring that up because fundamentally, that is how you win and also because when men competed against men. they weren't boxing women yet, ahead of its time. but that's where he needs to focus because it is a winnable race on substance. it is a completely losable race if this comes down to media sensationalism. as you know, because she has the entirety of the media on her side, and the media is not even calling her out for stealing policies. like we're a day away from kamala wearing a maga hat on stage. stuart: i just want to make it clear. i think it be disastrous if kamala harris became the president of the united states. >> we all do. we're watching this happen in realtime. the media is sheltering kamala, obviously building her up with

this level of manufactured enthusiasm we've never seen before, but that is a real challenge. we may not like that they are doing this , but that's the reality of what he's up against and if people don't speak out and talk about that this is a losable election, so kudos to you. stuart: okay let's talk about the debate. upcoming september 10. a former harris official says don't underestimate donald trump in the debate. watch this. >> he has not been in this debate format, so i think democrats should give her a little bit of space to have maybe a slow start, give her a little bit of space to have time to learn how to do the debate format again. let's not over-sell what's going to happen. donald trump will not be a wimperring pile of tears when the debate is over. stuart: jimmy, what do you think will happen in this debate? >> well i do expect trump to have the advantage, because he believes what he's saying. trump is running on policies that he ran on four years ago, that he ran on eight years ago. kamala is running on policies that weren't on her platform. she doesn't have policies on her website to this day, but

the truth is, if kamala would dropout right now and just embrace all of the policies she's rallied around in the last week she be the republican front runner in four years. okay? secure the border? taxes on tips? this is all trump stuff, so she's running this like a trump cover band, so i would expect him to do well in the debate, but this other caveat they are giving us, which is you've got to bear with her. she's very new so in what world should she be entitled to run the free world? well you know some moderators from abc might be a little tough. okay gee, well good luck with vladimir putin and kim jong-un then. stuart: he's allowed harris to make the heading, to make the running. he's constantly reacting to what she says. it should be the other way around. >> its got to be all policy from here. the body the body. i circle back to "rocky" and the betting odds have her in a lead and i'm a guy whose not paid his rent from betting over the years so i want to see the markets switch. stuart: didn't know that. jimmy e we've got to watch you x

news saturday night at 10 p.m. eastern. thank you, jimmy you're the best. back to the markets please. i still see that rally going strong. dow is up what? 170 now, and the nasdaq is up 286 that's 1.7%. mike lee joining us. you know this , we've got a read on inflation earlier, from dueser prices up 2.2% in the last 12 months. inflation is cooling. does this fit into a narrative whereby we might get a real big melt-up on the market? >> yeah, absolutely, stuart. this was a very welcome number. i would say one number does not a market make, but if you're hoping for fed rate cuts and you're looking forward to an easing cycle, this is definitely what you need, and throughout the last six weeks, you had a massive amount of deleveraging in the mega cap names, so hedge funds taking off leverage and then a lot of people getting wiped out from

the carry trade, so a lot of people now, if you start to get a melt-up or they do not own enough of the mag7 names particularly in the fast money hedge fund community so you could see a significant melt-up from here. stuart: supposing we get very positive inflation numbers tomorrow with the consumer price index. again, if they show inflation cooling, does that give us the melt-up? >> yeah, stuart, i think we're on our way. so unless we get a really really hot number tomorrow, which i don't necessarily think we will, and even if we do, i would use that as a buying opportunity because i think the first few rate cuts are written in stone, and like i said, you know, when you read the prime brokerage data, where the hedge funds are on a leverage basis and the names that they own, a lot of these mag7 names and the larger cap names across the market have become under owned relative to six to eight weeks

ago so yes. i particularly like this mag7 and it trades right now. i think we're going back higher, new highs on all of them before the end of the year. stuart: so okay, we've got them on the screen right now. we've got dow winners can you put me big tech on the screen? i want to see which one mike lee would put money into more than any of the rest of them. we're going to get them on the screen. nvidia, apple, microsoft, alphabet, amazon. which is your pick? >> oh, nvidia, hands down. the stock is off substantially off its highs. we're off about 20 bucks or about 15% off its highs, and every single cloud provider said they are going to spend more money on capital expenditures throughout the rest of the year and they did this past quarter than the entire market expected which means they are buying more nvidia gpu's than you or i or anybody on this street can imagine. they aren't reporting for a couple of weeks but i'd imagine that numbers going to be something spectacular which is what we become used to seeing from them. stuart: you are indeed the super

bowl and you're back. mike lee thank you very much for being here. we will see you again. >> thanks stuart. stuart: you got it. take me thank you nvidia. lauren: so there was that report this morning from the "wall street journal" that a competitor chip from china is coming from a local chinese company huawei, but many analysts are saying who cares? nvidia is outrunning rivals domestically and internationally, and all "the talk" is about their newest chip which hasn't come on the market yet, black well. stuart: what's the story on kroger? lauren: this is amazing. senators elizabeth warren and bob casey are investigating the chain for potential surg pricing. if you go into some stores they have electronic labels so they can update prices so the senators want to know if they are changing the prices during peak times so uber search pricing. stuart: why shouldn't they? lauren: well it's annoying. well, i want to know, i want to go in and be like a banana costs $0.25 whether it's 10 a.m. or

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stuart: this just in. the united auto workers union has filed federal labor charges against both trump and musk after the x interview last night. the uaw claims trump and musk threatened and intimidated workers who engaged in protected activities like strikes. >> i like at what you do. you walk in and you just say, you want to quit? i won't mention the name of the company but they go on strike and you say that's okay, you're all gone. you're all gone, so every one of you is gone. stuart: that was a threat to intimidate workers? oh, really. it's worth noting that under federal law workers can't be fired for going on strike and threated ening to do so is illegal under the national labor relations act so now you know. next case tim walz under fire for his ties to a controversial muslim leader. the minnesota cleric defended

palestinians. mike tobin with us. has walz addressed this relationship? >> so far, no, only to one publication but with what we have drummed up we first start seeing g governor tim walz apper in 2019 and then again in april and may and at one point zaman delivered a state of the state address and he is executive director of the muslim-american society of minnesota. if walz did a background they would have found that in 2015 he posted a link to a pro-hitler propaganda movie called the greatest story never told, still he appeared with governor tim walz in may of 2020, and again in 2023 following a string of vandalism. sam westdrop of the middle east forum says governor walz has been ignorant of the radicalism and cannot do anything that would make him appear islamaphobic. >> under a wa walz harris tick,

given the ability to embrace the worse radicals from the muslim community one can only imagine this is replicated at the white house level. walz clearly doesn't want to know about the extremist he embraces. >> the state records we've tracked down so far show the muslim-american society of minnesota received grants totaling over $123,000 starting in the year 2021 through next fiscal year. reporting from the washington examiner says united arab emirate designated it as a terrorist organization back in 2014 and that federal prosecutors described the muslim-americal society as a direct arm of the muslim brotherhood. the same muslim brotherhood that assassinated sadat and gave birth to hamas. the harris campaign has not responded our request for a comment but they did make a comment to the jewish insider and said, governor walz does not have a relationship with him, meaning governor walz strongly condemns hamas terrorism.

stuart? stuart: mike tobin, thank you very much indeed. donald trump is no longer favored to beat kamala harris according to the betting markets which a tracked by fox business. deroy murdock with me this morning. some republicans are pleading with trump to control his behavior. do you think trump should change his language and demeanor? >> i think he should do what i've recommended, he and everybody involved, which is focus on public policy. focus on public policy all the time. we don't need the insults. we don't need comments about people's ethnicity. he needs to stick to teleprompter and give very policy-driven speeches as he's capable of doing and focus on the differences between his time and what kamala harris is talking about. i'd also focus on the very simple question. are you better off now under biden-harris or at the time when donald j. trump was president and most people would say we're better off then and make the contrast between the thriving economy we had then versus where we are now with crime, inflation and border wide open. stuart: but if it doesn't change, or alter his demeanor,

do you think he could lose? >> he could, possibly. i'd also behind the scenes be very focused on making sure the voter roles don't have all sorts of people imaginary voters and need to pay a lot of attention to that because things can go totally haywire there even if everything is going well on the campaign front. stuart: i don't think he will listen to his critics. >> i hope he does. cross your fingers. stuart: i'll leave it there, okay? now, an anti-affirmative action group has accused a school district in new york state of discriminating against white students. they say the children were excluded from an event for students of color. now, the district did apologize and ended up inviting all the students to the event, but why would a school even think of doing something like that? >> i call this left wing segregationism and after defeating jim crow in the 1960s we thought that had gone away. the left has brought it back and you'll find these kids are going back to college, a lot of

schools have students of color only orientation, black-only dorms. stuart: really? >> oh, yeah, only open to students of minority background and then next may and june they have graduations that are only for black students and hispanic students. stuart: wait this is coming, this is happening? >> this happens on campuses all across the country and this is segregationism and these are the same people those of us on the right say you're a bunch of racists. they are perpetuating and promoting racism. and they talk about color neutrality and they want to focus on color and tell people you're welcome here and you are not. it's racism. stuart: i thought we had gotten over this. that would have been thrown out with all of the activities of last six months or so. >> it was thrown out and a lot of people are in the anti-racism movement, the dei folks and critical race, and they are focusing on race and people's skin color and saying based on your skin color you're welcome to come inside or no you stay outside. this is happening on the part of the left not the right. stuart: what happens if kamala harris becomes the president of

the united states? >> a lot more of that. she's very focused and part of the dei critical race theory crowd and this is coming from the same woman who says this is a racist country even though this racist country elected her vice president of the united states despite fact she's not a blonde hair blue eyed woman. stuart: deroy murdock thanks for being here. >> absolutely, you bet. stuart: the pentagon has reportedly forced to abandon a dei hiring program. ashley, what happened? ashley: well, the program was dumped after the supreme court's decision last year that overturned affirmative action. according to the daily wire the defense department awarded almost 760,000 taxpayer funds to the university of missouri kansas city to create a diversity equity and inclusion program that basically discriminated against white and male students to reach equity-focused goals. the report revealed that

the pentagon has actually requested nearly 270 million bucks in taxpayer funds for the dei agenda between 202t was actually commissioned by the defense department concluded the resistance to dei is growing even though the biden administration has signed multiple executive orders, institutionalizing the dei agenda, but, the whole program could be on the chopping block anyway if donald trump is elected, he has promised to gut dei programs. stu? stuart: got it ash, thank you. let's run through some of the winners of the day starting with dow winners. nike is at the top, they are up 5%, solid gain there. intel bouncing to just $20 a share that's quite a bounce. apple at 2.21, microsoft 4.13 up six bucks and boeing is up $2.57. the s&p 500 winners starbucks, super microcomputer, nvidia up

5% today, nike is up 5% and estee lauder up 4.5%. nasdaq winners starbucks, whoa! 21% with a new ceo and that's good enough for 21% gain. tesla is up 3%, z-scaler, warner brothers, marvel technology, all up in strong percentage terms. coming up, elon musk conducted a wide ranging interview with donald trump on the x platform. mostly softball questions from musk. we'll see if media guy brent bozell thinks this did good for trump. lawmakers want to ground chinese-made drones over national security fears but police officers say don't do that. we need them. the full story, next. meet the jennifers.

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down. well, about two and a half hours after that report we got producer prices. they came in soft, hoping to cement a federal reserve rate cut, so this is a story about the economy and that loss turned into a gain. stuart: okay there's a story here about chipotle and starbucks and a switch of ceo's. lauren: chipotle is down more than 10%, their ceo very well-regarded brian nichols, has been poached by starbucks. starbucks is up 20%. raymond james is trying to have fears among chipotle investors. they say this shouldn't reflect anything negative on chipotle and calling this sell-off a buying opportunity for chipotle. stuart: they must have real faith in that ceo. lauren: he must have gotten a very nice package from starbucks to get him to come over and the bar is high. stuart: the bar is very high. lauren: starbucks is an icon, so is chipotle, but can he do it again? stuart: we'll see. taylor riggs with us this morning. i want to get back to the inflation report earlier today. inflation is clearly cooling, according to the ppi and the markets seem to like it.

taylor: yes, i think there's nothing in this report that tells us we're not going to get 25 basis point cut in september. you're seeing very good disinflation on the good side and good moderation on the services side that we were really waiting for so we're finally getting that. goldman sachs came out with a great note this morning saying this is a classic buy the dip opportunity especially when it comes to nvidia given such the big drawdown you're really getting this opportunistic sentiment as we're heading into earnings, jackson hole in a few weeks where we hear from jay powell so a lot of excitement here. the bank of america fund manager survey came out. big tech is still the big trade. nothing last week derailed that so people are still very much excited about these markets. stuart: we've got another inflation report tomorrow morning, consumer prices, 8:30 eastern time. a lot of people are saying look that's also a favorable cooling inflation report. we're off to the races, big time. what do you say? taylor: i think it's only a matter of how quickly and how many rate cuts. it's no longer a question of if or when. we know it's coming.

i mean, the basic math is generally equity markets do well when rates are low, because i am discounting the value of my future cash flow, what my stock is worth today, by a lower rate. that means it's worth more today. barring a huge major recession when everything is worthless then that's sort of the caveat but overall the math says when rates go down the current value of what my stock is worth should go up and that's what the markets are betting on. stuart: just noticing that the six-month treasury pays 4.94%. taylor: i know. stuart: getting to real liquidity and 4.94%. i've got money in that. it's attractive. taylor: it is. look if rates come down, the price of your bond goes up. so if you're nearing retirement, i don't want to say that, if you have a lower life span in the future, and you want to be in the bond market, i'm never going to be invited back on the show again. stuart: yes, you are. there's a lot of speculation

about my retirement. taylor: if you want to be in the bond market you don't have to weather the volatility of the equity market we got. principal preservation plus a little bit of that coupon clipping never a bad thing. stuart: got it. liquidity in small tax break too. taylor: exactly. stuart: taylor thanks very much indeed. we will watch you, believe it or not, at 1:00 today. 1:00 eastern time on "the big money show" here on fox business. thanks very much indeed. police in beverly hills are using drones to identify potential threat. there is a small problem here. the drones are made in china and they are sparking fears of spying. max gordon on the famous rodeo drive. why not use drones made in america? >> hey, stu. well that's a good question and beverly hills pd wants to use american made drones but well, they just aren't as good. they say these american made drones don't have the right combination of battery life, range and camera technology they are looking for. now, here in the downtown area, they launched this drone called

the drone-first responder and it patrols the streets about 12 hours a day, seven days a week and able to get to the scene of a shoplifting incident in about 30 seconds, two and a half minutes faster than an officer on the ground. the drone tracks the suspect until officers can get to them. the drone first responders have been in-use by beverly hills pd for nearly three-years taking off on thousands of flights and the department says its been a really valuable tool to combat shoplifters. theft arrests have been mixed since the program started but in 2023 arrests rose sharply up 71% compared to 2,022. >> i can't even get out of the store before we got eyes on to watch them come out of the store, watch with stolen merchandise in their hands and as they are walking away and the other good thing is we're identifying the right people. >> but beverly hills pd drone program could hit turbulence. the majority of the drones used by the department are from

the chinese manufacturer dji. legislation moving through congress as well as the california legislature seeks to ban first responders from using chinese-made drones, citing security concerns, and beverly hills is not alone. departments across the country are using chinese-made drones and the department says the software they use prevents data from going to china and there's misconceptions about these drones and if a chinese-made drone ban does go into effect, beverly hills pd will gladly buy american drones, but they say they won't be as effective. they are going to cost the department a lot of money and then have to retrain their employees. stu? stuart: drone war, max, thanks for joining us see you soon. a new poll reveals how republicans really feel about the supreme court reforms put forward by biden. the results are shocking. right now, the media is singing the praises of kamala harris, but less than a year ago, they were calling on biden to drop her from the ticket. media guy brent bozell takes on the media's change of heart,

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stuart: okay, we've got favorable inflation news this morning, and the nasdaq is up nearly 300 points that is 1.7%. that's a rally. more inflation numbers tomorrow the cpi let's see if that moves the market too. check the 10-year treasury yield it has been coming down. it's way below the 4% mark. 3.87% right now. kamala harris' campaign wants to push a message of joy. all right, ashley. is there joy in politics these days? ashley: i don't think joy is the right word. let's put it that way. the harris campaign basically trying to convince voters that there is hope and light as opposed to donald trump's personal insults and painting a dire picture of the state of

the country. harris and her runningmate tip m walz are selling themselves as "the happy warriors" fighting for a good cause but polls show america so far isn't buying it. two-thirds report being very or somewhat pessimistic about the state of politics with just 16% believing hey, everything is just fine. who are those people? but even some republicans say that the harris approach is not without some merit saying what most unites americans today is frustration and disillusionment with toxicity of american politics, so highlighting optimism over fear may resonate with some voters. stu? stuart: thanks, ash. take a look at the cover of time magazine. it shows kamala harris with the words "her moment." she didn't even agree to an interview and they still put her on the cover. now this is a real big reversal from the way the media used to cover harris. they even made the case for biden to drop her as a

runningmate. that was then, but time magazine is now. brent bozell joins me. the honeymoon does not end until the media says it ends. right, brent? >> i think the honeymoon doesn't end until the election. let me comment on something ashley said to lead up to this because ashley hit it right on the head. yeah, there is a lot of discontent in the united states. there are a lot of problems and a lot of people who aren't happy but i'll give you a sneak preview into a poll we're going to release in a few days that's going to show it's not sticking with kamala harris. they aren't seeing kamala harris as the person responsible for this , so in fact, the media strategy of hiding in the basement is working beautifully for her right now. look at the time magazine cover. look, they fawned all over her comparing her to beyonce and taylor swift. if they believed in god they would compare her to the blessed virgin mary. the whole time she refused to sit down and do an interview

with them. talk about a slap in the face, so what does this say? this says that the hatred for donald trump is so intense that they are going to do everything to facilitate anything that will defeat him, including facilitating a strategy where she hides in the basement where now into the fourth week since she announced her presidential run where she refuses to talk to the press and there's no outrage whatsoever. stuart: why should she? i mean, you're making huge progress. you're on an upswing, you've got momentum, you've got a honeymoon. why break that by going and doing interviews and press conferences? it's not in her political interest. >> exactly right. exactly right, and they are seeing that calculation, they are seeing that it worked for joe biden in 2020 when he had his basement strategy. it worked beautifully. they just let trump who made some mistakes in that campaign make them and they are just hoping the same things going to happen again, but they do know

that their strongest allie in this presidential campaign, it's not the unions. it's not hollywood. it's no other entity. it's the national news media that are going to do their bidding so the question is, where the honeymoon is concerned. this is not going to end until election day. they are going to do everything in their power to do it while at the same time, stuart, while savaging trump every single day as they have been since may of 2015. they haven't let up. stuart: and they never will. elon musk's interview with donald trump has not been well-received by the media. watch this. >> it's nice to have a forum like this where i can discuss something at length and by the way you think biden could do this interview? do you think that kamala could do this interview? they would take a passat you. >> no, they could not. >> they don't need elon screaming out questions.

it's pretty sad when you think that somebody that does this for a living can't answer a question or is afraid to do an interview and in her case with a very friendly interview. she's got all friendly interviewers. stuart: brent, i think trump got pretty softball questions from musk last night. what do you think? >> well, here's, your ears won't be able to see this trust me on this. if you can look at this. this is a print-out of 24 headlines that came out today on that. every single headline savaged trump, musk, or both, and basically what they were saying was there was softball questions for two hours. did i mention it was two hours? did i mention that trump sat down for two hours and kamala harris hasn't sat down for two minutes with anyone? i be perfectly happy if, how is this for an idea, stuart? let's have mark zuckerberg, of facebook, do a two hour interview with kamala harris, where he can ask her similar questions as he asks elon musk.

i'd love to see that. she won't do it because the last thing she wants to do is to have to answer to the public. stuart: don't answer questions. not good politics. brent thanks for joining us this morning and we'll see you again soon. thank you very much. all right, now, a new poll reveals how republicans feel about reforming the supreme court. for or against? lauren: for. this is a usa today poll. it finds republicans are overwhelmingly for it. 70% support a code of conduct for supreme court justices that would require they disclose gifts, prohibit involvement in political activity, and a mandate recusal from cases involving any conflicts of interest for themselves or their spouses. 51% of republicans support term limits, president biden has proposed 18 year term limits, and just 20% support increasing packing the court. the number of justices from nine to 15. stuart: that was surprising. i'm surprised to see so many

republicans favoring reforming the supreme court. lauren: as an institution it is unpopular and so is congress and much of the government. the state of our politics. stuart: we need reform. i think supreme court stays as is. my opinion. thanks very much. check the dow 30, please. state of the market, i expect to see a lot of green and there it is. we've got seven losers, 23 winners. the dow is up 213 points. a self-proclaimed evangelical conservative says he's voting for kamala harris and he thinks other republicans should too. he claims the current gop is not a home for people of faith. resident theologian jonathan morris takes that on, next. ♪

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stuart: a new york times columnist and self-proclaimed evangelical conservative says he's voting for kamala harris in november. it's david french and he writes, let's take an assertion that should be uncontroversial especially to a party that often envisions itself as a home for people of faith. lying is wrong. i've never seen a human being lie with the intensity and shear volume of donald trump. jonathan morris joins us now. he's our resident theologian.

turn this around. is harris the best candidate to uphold christian values, if trump is not? >> yes, stu. some people hate the idea of trump in the white house again so much that they have to come even conservatives. in this case david french is a professed conservative but they hate the idea so much of a trump in the white house again that they have to come up with a, in tis case, very convoluted explanation of why kamala harris will be the best choice for conservative values. i mean, we already know exactly what kamala will be proposing, and it will be a rather radical, progressive agenda, and all the people with her, so i get the idea of saying i can't vote for trump, but don't pretend and give us some like ridiculous explanation saying

conservative, the conservative choice here is kamala harris. it's just not genuine. stuart: okay. gospel music star kirk franklin, he has a controversial take on marriage. watch this. >> i believe that marriage has been weaponized in western christianity. it's very much that you live in it saying you need to get married, without realizing that marriage doesn't fix sin. stuart: single people can also be used by god and have a purpose. jonathan, i don't see how you're going to disagree with that. >> well, i do disagree a little bit. yes, of course there's still sin in marriage and marriage is not a fix for sin, or anything like that, and certainly, unmarried people can do great things for their country and for themselves and for god, but marriage supporting marriage in government and society

supporting marriage is a very important thing. there's reason why marriage has existed from as far back as we have recorded history, because commitment helps us. it helps us raise a family. it helps us stay together during tough times, and so i think it was a little bit, maybe he didn't mean it like this , but it came across as hey, marriage is not that important. marriage is very important. not only from a religious perspective, but also from a societal perspective and we should have government supporting people who are willing to stay together and raise children. stuart: why do you think that marriage is being rejected by an increasing number of youngsters? >> because it's hard. it's very hard, and anybody whose been married knows that it's hard. it's hard to say that i'm going to love somebody in good times and in bad. that's why it's hard but also, the reason why it's so hard is that is because it's so good and

it's good for the children and it's good for society. stuart: i'm not the right person to respond to that, but nonetheless, jonathan r month us, thanks very much. >> you are the right person. stu, but look, do you see where i am by the way? stuart: london. >> i'm in your homeland. it's a very sophisticated place and i love it. stuart: i've not been back in london in 25 maybe 30 years. i have to come and see what it's like. jonathan, enjoy yourself in my homeland. see you later. thank you, sir. all right here we go. it's that time. the tuesday trivia question, another good one. when was the first radio transition sent across the atlantic? 1895, 19011904 or 1908 the answer when we come back.

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stuart: the producers came up with another good one. when was the first radio transmission sent across the atlantic ocean? 1895 seems a little early to me. 1901, 1904, 1908. the jury is out on this one. what do you have? ashley: don't have a clue but i

will go with number 2, 1901. what have you got? lauren: i was going with that also but i feel i keep copying nationally. i was thinking 19 oh one. stuart: it was sent by marconi, the engineer from cape cod. what year was it? i'm going with number 2, 1901. 1901 is the answer thanks to guillermo marconi, the father of the radio at his lab in newfoundland. his assistant able to pick up the faint clicking of morse code sent all the way from england. i thought it was out of cape cod. it was out of newfoundland. time is up. thank you very much for being here. coast-to-coast start in 3, 2, one.