♪ david: well, thank you so much for watching this special edition of "can kudlow," and don't forget to tune in for special coverage of the dnc tonight starting at 7 p.m. eastern. and starting right now is liz macdonald to take you through the next -- elizabeth: thank you, dade asman. great to see you. i'm elizabeth macdonald. let's get right at it. we've got a jam-packed show tonight. first, this from former president trump today the hammering away at kamala harris

in the swing state of michigan. ♪ ♪ >> since comed rad kamala -- comrade kamala harris took office a, her administration's crime statistics show she's presided over a 43% increase in violent crime. but crime in america's out of control. i'm going to make it, along with the economy, inflation, strong borders and energy dominance, my top priority. i'm including crime in america. we're seeing numbers that are just absolutely horrific. the democrats are holding their convention in chicago in order to showcase it, and yet as you know on fourth of july weekend 117 people were shot. she's come out with policy and for years defund the police. you don't mind defunding, do you, fellas? if would you vote for defund d

-- [background sounds] >> by the way, you people you protect don't want defunders either. elizabeth: we've got more sound from president trump going after kamala harris in just a moment former michigan gubernatorial candidate tudor dixon is here to react. breaking news, kamala harris just made yet another rapid flip flop, this time in record olympic time. first, she claimed this -- >> we will continue our fight for working families and eliminate taxes on tips for service and hospitality workers! [cheers and applause] elizabeth: breaking news coming in, kamala harris will cut back, dial back her or no tax on tips plan that she copied from president trump and ron paul. she did that just a week ago details on what she's saying no to now coming up in just a second. plus, the updates on tensions flaring inside and outside day two of the dnc. we've9 got more images of pro-socialists and antifa

protesters mixed in with anti-israel protesters. they've been waving communist flags, this is at the dnc. the latest action on that. but first, this -- the. ♪ if. >> when i left office, i that handed kamala and crooked joe biden a surging economy with no inflation. you had no inflation. you had -- everything was good. great wage, no inflation. now you have inflation at a levels that i don't believe anyone's ever seen before. what i'm promising today is a total pro-american overhaul of our tax, regulation and trade systems to promote domestic production and punish those who ship jobs and factories overseas or to places like mexico. under the trump administration, we will build american, buy american and hire american. every policy in kamala harris' radical liberal playbook sends

jobs and wealth to other countries. the jobs go to other countries. and the wealth goes to other countries. every policy in the trump agenda is designed to bring the jobs and wealth back home to america where it belongs and where it's going to stay. finish kamala puts -- kamala puts america last. elizabeth: former president trump on what he will do to fix america, he says, and bring it back to where it was before president biden took office. he does hold a slim 0.1% lead over harris in the seven swing states according to real clear polling averages. let's bring in former michigan gubernatorial candidate, host of the tudor dixon podcast, tudor dixon. tudor, what do you think of trump's messaging in michigan today on crime and then on the economy? let's show the washington post/abc polling. voters trust trump more on the economy, inflation and the border. what do you think of his messaging now? if. >> i think his message on to crime is incredibly important

and incredibly important to families of law enforcement officers. you saw him standing there with law enforcement officers there in michigan today. let me just tell you, over the summer we lost three police officers due to violent criminals killing our police officers. this is something very serious in the state of michigan. when we are losing our police officers at a time when it's hard for us to even recruit police officers, people in michigan understand we are in danger. we're currently listed as the second most violent state in the country. it's a very important message to come to michigan and talk about protecting us, to give us back our communities, to give us back safety and to make sure we can aboard good for the table for the kids -- afford food for the table for the kids. what we're looking at now in the state of michigan is outrageous. we have some of the highest gas prices in the nays, and our grocery bills are out of control. i just bought school supplies for my girls, and it was $100 more this year than last year. it's really tough on parents in

our state. elizabeth: internal democrat polling reportedly shows the race is much tighter and not as rosy for kamala harris. they're talking about this inside the party, that a top super pac, it's called -- it's it's funding her campaign, called the future forward super pac, their numbers are much less rosy for harris than what voters are seeing. it warns harris is not doing as a great in the key swing states. and now this, "the washington post," this breaking news, kamala harris is now dialing back and reducing her no federal taxes on tips plan that she copied from trump and ron paul. so here's the deal, i tudor. she's saying now, you know, you will be federally taxed if you make more than $75,000 a year. you can hardly live on that. she's also talking about capping the amount a of anymore income workers can claim from tips. that's, again, this is -- it would still be subject to the payroll taxes. this is a record, olympic time for a flip-flop, tudor.

>> yeah, but this is no sprie.z look, this is what she's doing with all of her policies. we have no idea who kamala harris is. look at fracking, look at this. like you said, record timing to flip flip on this but also interesting timing when families are desperate to have more money back in their, pockets. the american people need to understand donald trump wants you to keep your money and wants you to spend your money. kamala harris wants to take your money and wants to to decide how she spends it and who she gives it to. she's talking about making sure first-time home buyers have a down payment. what about the families struggling to make their mortgage payment? why isn't she talking about giving people more money back? the moment she did talk about it, she flip flip-flopped and said she was going to reverse that. why did she also sign the bill or was she the tie-breaker in the bill to put out 87,000 more irs agents? she wants your money, and she wants to decide how the -- elizabeth: yeah. there's also this. even the san francisco federal

reserve bank, researchers there say, you know kamala harris is not right saying that corporate profit taking is the leading cause of inflation. they're saying it's not a primary catalyst for the inflation surge of 20221-202 the, i tudor. -- 20222, and what's grieving it as you just anticipated -- driving it is kamala harris signing off on merely $7 trillion in spending. she did two bills that she was the tie breaker vote on. the the total december has -- debt has increased nearly $7 trillion urn this biden white house. >> what's causing it is handing out our money to other people. now she wants the hand it out to illegal immigrants. this is what we're seeing. we're seeing kamala harris cause inflation to go higher, and i can't imagine what a presidency would look like. it would be horrifying. elizabeth: tudor dixon, thanks for joining us, it's good to see you. tensions flaring at the dnc. washington, d.c. is talking about the humiliation, the

indignity for president biden. his speech delayed way past prime time to around midnight last night. the dnc also trying project unity. there's division on the inside and outside even today on day two. par-left democrats -- far-left democrats like ilhan omar do not look like they're supporting kamala harris at all. joining us now, gop strategist lisa lisa boothe. >> hi, liz, always good to see you. elizabeth: the ig no ignominious end to biden career here, a shouting speech lasting past midnight. >>s it is very clear that i am not a fan of the man, but to relegate the profit the united states -- the president of the united states to an 11:25 25 the p.m. speech -- think about what nancy pelosi has told us, what has eric swalwell told us, right? they've told to us that this man deserves to be on mount rushmore next to abraham lin corporation thomas jeff zonks next to george

washington, theodore roosevelt, that is how great this man is. what a great president this guy is, yet he's relegated to 1 1:25 the speaking slot, and we know why. because he is not the things that they tell us. s e this is the party that that lies to us, gaslights us as they always a do about everything. this is a president who is one of the least popular presidents in 70 toyears, even worse than jimmy carter. that is why they pushed him to such a late speak spot, pushed him off the ticket and installed someone who hasn't received a single primary vote or won a caucus. elizabeth: lisa, everything you're saying is also what people in d.c. are saying. also that he's checked out, he's president in name only. it's scaring voters, like who's running d.c. right now? if trump is neck and neck with harris in the polls. let's watch what happened last night, and watch former speaker nancy pelosi getting really angry when she was asked about how she helped oust biden from the race. her legacy getting hit too.

>> donald trump claims that you were pushed out from the top of the ticket, and this amounts to a coup from your party what do you make of those claims? >> [inaudible] >> his what? >> it does seem like there's some residual bad blood or resentment, and i'm wondering if you've spoken to him and what your response to that -- >> sometimes you just have to take a punch for the children -- [laughter] i don't know. >> nobody wants to have a fight with nancy pelosi at this time. >> you know, look -- >> have you talked to him? >> -- what i have to do -- >> right. >> he made the decision for the country. my concern was not about the president, it was about his campaign. why are we even talking about it? [laughter] elizabeth: wait a second, lisa. so you heard that. is nancy pelosi saying reelecting biden would have been bad for the children? >> i think that's what she's saying. also he is still president of

the united states. that is why we are still talking about it. he has not stepped down from that a position despite admitting to the world, despite committing to the country that he can no longer be the party's nominee, yet he's still president of the united states. and the reason why is because they're trying to do everything they can to distance kamala harris from him. but the problem for her is that she owns the three biggest policy failures of this administration. she owns inflation. we know that she's been the tie-breaking vote for critical things like the inflation reduction act which was just a climate bill that increased flakes. we know that -- inflation. we know that in afghanistan with the disastrous pillout that led to instability around the world, she said she was the last voice in the room. and we also know she's been the border czar letting in over 10 million illegal aliens. so she owns those policy failures despite the fact that they're trying to do everything they can to distance her from it. elizabeth: always great to hear from lisa boothe. thanks for joining us again tonight to be.

>> take care, liz. elizabeth: coming up, president trump making democrats mad again. he now says he might give the ceo with of tesla and twitter's x, elon musk, a cabinet job if he's recollected. reelected. remember this? >> elon musk has become a giant national security risk. >> casts doubt on election machines, on mail-in ballots and illegal voting -- >> billionaire puppeteer, elon musk. elizabeth: you know, the hysteria and over the top exaggeration and hyperbole from the left just gets crazier by the hour. so will former president trump give mix a cabinet job or advisory role? we're going to hear musk's response coming up. also this hour for likely the first time in u.s. history, a vice presidential candidate now faces multiple probes in the house. before he even gets to d.c. more on what's going on9 with the investigations into vice president kamala harris' running

mate, governor tim walz. also tonight a former minnesota small business other than details -- business owner details his harrowing warning on how governor tim walz literally destroyed small businesses in minnesota without even caring what was going on for them while it was happening. you're going to hear his shocking story this hour. plus what's better for the economy, what do you think? is it price fixing? inflation? how about hiking taxes on top of all all that? we've got economist don luskin on how harris wants all a of that, how kamala harris' economic policy is going from bad to worse for america, and she is biden 2.0 to. but first, we've got more protests overshadowing night two of the dnc. we're going to bring you the latest action from the ground coming up after this. ♪ ♪ [inaudible conversations]

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to see you too, liz. it's kind of calm right now, but this is a section of the fence that was breached yesterday and partially dismantled. it's since been repaired and supplemented. let me show you what i mean. we're walking across what was once the no man's land on washington boulevard. it now has a second row, ring of fencing, if you will, that runs a kilometer down in that direction providing additional security, and it's backed up by concrete jersey barriers. this was all open yesterday all the way to the second line of fencing. now, the second line of fencing did not get breached yesterday. none of the protectees within security perimeter were ever in danger, but you did have demonstrators who made it onto washington boulevard. a big security concern. now, the demonstrators have been back at it today, primarily code pink. they interrupted a speech by governor tim walz today at mccormack center, the theme again is anti-israel opposition to u.s. support of israel. there's another group that calls

themselves behind enemy line, and they are planning a demonstration at the israeli consulate today. the theme for this demonstration is make it great like '68, a reference to the meltdown and the riots at the 1968 democratic convention. chicago's police superintendent larry snelling says his officers are well trained and can handling whatever these protesters throw at them. >> we have our resources on standby all the time, and we can move resources as needed. and these are plans that we've practiced. we've done this through tabletops, we've looked at situations that rapidly involve. and how do we respond to those things. well, we've practiced. >> reporter: now, chicago police say 13 people have been arrested so far, 10 of them yesterday here at the breach in the fence, and the courts are taking it seriously. one of these demonstrate theres is now looking at a felony for allegedly throwing a bottle of water at a police officer. liz? if. elizabeth: mike tobin, great reporting. thanks for joining us tonight.

>> the number one issue is the border, the economy that's driving you -- >> it's the border, the it's the taxes. have you seen your tax bill? it's like a telephone number. >> it's about time for the black community to start look at the republican party. the republican party is pro-family, pro-business, pro-education, school choice. mine, come on. it's time to do something different. >> food wasn't this high. i'm voting for trump. elizabeth: voters across the nation speaking out on the election on what matters to the them. let's welcome to the show trent macro chief investment officer donald luskin back with us. don, it's always wonderful to see you again. so -- >> thank you. elizabeth: have you ever seen anything like this, what kamala harris is campaigning on? massive tax hike, letting the trump tax cuts expire on on top of record inflation? she wants to raise the tax rate on companies to 28%, higher than china a and eastern europe. and, you know, the biden-harris

white house ranks third worst since eisenhower on inflation. don, have you ever seen anything like this. >> no -- [laughter] let's talk about that 28% corporate tax rate, all right? that's the big one. first, the treasury is is making more on the corporate tax rate now at today's 32 the 1 -- 21% rate than it expected to do at the higher pre-trump tax rate. so you want to cut the deficit, do not raise corporate taxes. number two, corporate taxes are just an expense give companies. they're a huge expensive. raising the corporate tax from 21% where it is today to to 28% where kamala harris wants to put it is a 33% expense increase. expenses will go up 33%. that a will take 13% off of s&p earnings, 13% off the s&p 500, that will take 13 if percent if off your 401(k) -- elizabeth: wow. >> any further questions? i didn't think so. elizabeth: wow, that's amazing. so to pay for it could be job

cuts. last time a candidate campaigned on tax hikes, i think, was walter mondale, and he in a landslide to reagan. there's analysis as you've been pointing about the slide in the s&p 500 earnings. we're seeing u.s. manufacturing in a contraction for 22 straight months. lowe's just joined home depot cutting its full-year outlook. hang on. let's listen to president trump on this. let's listen the what he's saying about these biden-harris jobs numbers coming in. watch this. >> there has been a report that the job numbers over the last period of time were fraudulent, and they -- and i understand that because i know how the job numbers go. if you want to be a bad person in high office, you can be a bad person, but the numbers are going to be revised and the job numbers were far less. nobody's ever seen of 600,000 to 1 million people less. elizabeth: you know, this is --

he's talking about the bls, bureau of labor statistics', preliminary benchmark revision coming tomorrow now through march. if wells fargo, jpmorgan saying 350-600,000 jobs. what do you see there? >> this is adding insult to injury. we know that almost every single month for the last three years jobs numbers have been revised down from just the previous month. and now they're going back and doing it for the whole previous who years. two years. so you know what the pattern is. the fake media, the fake government puts out the really good, optimistic number first. and then a couple of months later, couple years later they say, oh, well, gee, it turns out that it wasn't really that good. but everybody gets excited when the fake news comes out on day one. nobody's even listening when they make the retraction and the revision. it's just a scam. elizabeth: so, donald, what do

you think -- i mean, the markets took a hit, you know, just about two or three weeks ago. the nasdaq went into correction on that dispinting july -- disappointing july jobs number. we looked at the numbers, the household survey shows something like 2.5 million jobs created -- people employed, since before the pandemic, february 2020 versus now. it's not 16 million jobs as the harris campaign says. final word. >> you know, you cannot trust these government numbers, especially not now because of so much employment of illegal immigrants. now, you can make a good case that that is contributing to growth, but it sure is making it impossible to understand the labor market because illegal workers do not answer the door, they do not talk to the bls, they do not say, yes, i have a job, add me to the jobs numbers because then they get carted off to jail. so these numbers are complete fantasies. elizabeth: wow. interesting analysis. donald luskin, always so smart. thank you so much for joining

us. >> thank you. elizabeth: coming up, former president trump is getting democrats again in an uproar pro. he now says he could give elon musk a top job in possibly his cabinet. will he do it? what will musk oversee? new york post columnist jon levine here to react. plus, new developments in the house probe into tim realize wald -- tim walz. republican congressman greg murphy from house ways and means joins us next. ♪ >> i'd like to know how you are prepping for a debate with tim walz who has described himself as a bad debater? >> i found a good friend from back home who embellishes and lies a lot, and i'm having him stand in for tim walz. that's what we're doing for our debate. [laughter] tamra, izzy and emma...

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>> i think it'd be great to just have a government efficiency commission that takes a look at these things and just, and shows that the as taxpayer money, the

taxpayers' hard-earned money is spent in a good way. and i'd be happy to help to out on such a commission -- >> i'd love it. >> we're currently adding, i think, a trillion dollars to the deficit every, roughly every hundred days. >> that's right. >> and, yeah. the interest payments on the national debt now exceed the defense budget. it's on the order of a trillion dollars. >> it's interest -- >> and it keeps growing. elizabeth: okay. that was texas ceo and the owner of x's twitter, elon musk, talking to president trump. mix now says, yes, he would be -- musk now says, yes, he would be willing to serve in a trump administration. joinings us now, new york post columnist jon levine. he's at the dnc. musk tweeted a photo of himself at a podium with the words or department of government efficiency, meaning doing. he said he would be willing the serve if trump would hire him. >> i remember when elon musk took over twitter, the first

thing he did was fire 900% of its employees, and when i use twitter, x today, it works as good as ever, and i think to myself, what were those 90% of his employees that he got rid of doing? i kind of sometimes fantasize about that kind of approach to the federal government. but at the same time, i think it would be a crazy, terrible idea to put elon musk in the federal government. you know, because, like, you have to think right now as we talk here, he's revolutionized space travel, revolutionized electric vehicles, revolutionized just general transportation with companies like the boring company. he is on the cusp of so many breakthroughs and doing so many is incredible things, why would you want to take someone like that and put them in government, which is where creative, talented people go to die? [laughter] imagine in 14900 or 1491 is 1 if the king of spain had offered columbus a government job and said you don't need to take that voyage, go be my secretary of whatever. i mean, no. i think elon musk is great where he's in the private sector, and he's going to revolutionize our

whole world, and i definitely don't want to do anything that will stop that. elizabeth: what about an advisory role? i mean, the government accountability office noted trillions of dollars in government waste, fraud and abuse in the last who two dozen years. that's certainly got turbo-charged like a rocket ship under the pandemic. the government really tossed a lot of hot money into the economy. what about an advisory role? >> yeah, it would be great, and he would do great at it. again, i think he would be fantastic in such a role. i just would worry about taking him away from the real pursuits that are going to change our whole world. elizabeth: so, jon, when you see the disunity outside and inside the dnc, have you ever seen a dnc like this where president trump if gets concern excuse me, president biden gets shoved out of prime time to past midnight, the indignity of that, nancy pelosi continuing to defend how she helped oust him9 from the race and kamala harris still not

talking not media, trump continues to talk policy including on crime today in the battleground of michigan? what do you think, jon? final word. >> i mean, obviously you haven't seen anything in the democratic cob vex like this since 1968, famously in chicago as well. convention. look, it really shows you the priorities of this party. alexandria ocasio-cortez, a socialist, is given prime time brilling, and joe biden, the old moderate, is shoved to 1 1:30, way past his bedtime, and i just feel bad. that's all i have to say. elizabeth: jon levine, we'll check in with you shortly to see how it's going over there at the dnc. this could be a first in u.s. history, a running mate now being investigated by congress. let's welcome to the show congressman greg murphy. congressman,s it's always a pleasure having you back on the show. >> yeah. elizabeth: can you tell us more about these multiple house probes launched into harris' running mate, governor tim walz? >> yeah. and, liz, it's very interesting when, obviously, when you're

putting your name in for vice president, there's going to be a lot of scrutiny. if it had not been before as a governor. but what they found out was this gentleman has had a very, very long history associated with china, with the communist party. i'm not saying he's an agent, not saying anything like that, but there are certain proclivities and sympathies to the communist cause, as it were. equity, etc. if you're a doctor, you make the same amount as a construction worker that i think bear, bear alarm. and i think looking into this is absolutely reasonable, and it's given the political landscape entirely fair. elizabeth: so house oversight chair james comer or launched a probe into tim walz over his ties to china. we have seen the washington free beacon unearthing and uncovering a local article from 1991 when walz was a high school teacher where he appeared to applaud life under chinese communism. again, we hear you. nobody -- you're not saying he's a sleeper agent, but he told his students that communism is a

system where, quote, everyone shares and gets free food, housing, that the doctor and the construction worker make the same amount of money under communism, and they get, you know, housing about 30 pounds of rice a month. i mean -- [laughter] what do you think of those comments? >> yeah. add that -- and, obviously, there's communist sympathies. and given the fact that china has now demonstrated they want a one world order led by china, and then you add walz's sympathies with what kamala harris is doing saying, no, we're not going to -- we're going to take away your patents, no, we're going to raise your taxes, no, we're going to a basically bring equity everywhere, it should chill americans' spines because this country has been belt on capitalism. it's been built on people putting their name on the dotted line, not being subjugated to a sickle-party -- single-party rule which is what they essentially want. elizabeth: and then you have representative jim banks, chair of house armed services subcommittee, investigating tim

walz embellishing his military record in the national guard. final word. >> yeah, that's troublesome if also because if you contrast him to j.d. vance who served his country diligently, came out of poverty and then walz has tiptoed through, you know, his duties, yeah. this is all a part of a picture. and given the political land scape, it is the all open to access and open for discussion. elizabeth: congressman murphy, great to see you with. thanks for joining us. >> thanks, les. elizabeth elizabeth coming up, a former minnesota small business owner here with his warning on how he lost their family business in minneapolis. he blames governor tim walz's administration that literally businesses were left to burn to the ground. you're going hear his shocking story coming up. also, it's nearly a month of kamala harris hiding from the media, hiding what she thinks about her economic plans that's getting so roundly condemned by economists. no interviews, no pressers, no press concerns. we found shocking sound from her

that was also kept under wraps. joe concha, amber duke here to react. but first, let's check in with my buddies dagen and sean. dagen's live from the dnc and so is sean. sean: hey, e-mac, new york i'm still stuck here in d.c. night two on the horizon,, the tonight's theme, a bold vision for america. what does team trump think? we're going to ask karoline leavitt, trump press secretary, as well as debt and deficit concerns over a potential harris presidency. wyoming going to talk to governor doug gianforte from montana. dagen: we're going to the talk to robert wolf who is speak tonight, what his excuse is for the pain and suffering americans have experienced the last three and a half if years. and mary katharine ham, one of my favorite people walking on planet earth, on what the democrats did to joe biden last night. boy, they sure did burr limb near midnight. was -- bury him near middad:

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yes, we can do that. [laughter] yes. yes, we can do that. [applause] yes, we can do that. it's what -- the question is do you have the will to do it. i have the will to do it. if i learned -- i learned that with the swipe of my pen i could charge someone with the lowest level offense, and because of the swipe of my pen that person could be arrested. i learned at a very young with age the power, the power. if. elizabeth: okay. that's who critics say is the real kamala harris or authoritarian. more than ready to use her government power to do things like take drug patents away from the private sector. for more on all of this, let's welcome fox news contributor joe concha and from the spectator, washington editor there, amber duke.

joe, what was your reaction when you heard that sound? >> oh, i've heard it before. [laughter] she ran for president. that's when she was a candidate in 2019. the problem is, liz, that abc, nbc, cbs, cnn, msnbc, "the new york times" and washington post for whatever reason rig near being these past comments as if she never made them. imagine if donald trump made an authoritarian comment like that, and i think the harris campaign, liz, the democratic party in general, they are keenly aware that they could easily dodge, dip, duck, dive, lie and flip flop on almost every issue and totally get away with it, because the media see their mission not to hold them accountable, but the aid and abet their candidate of choice n this case, kamala harris. because both entities know maybe there's enough voters out there, liz, uninformed, misinformed, naive enough to believe them to get across the finish line. elizabeth so what joe just

seder, you know, when will kamala harris, amber, when will she face the press and answer voters' questions? are -- there are growing doubts about her due to these resurfaced videos. how long can this last? former clinton strategist mark penn says of course the polls are good for hearst. she's had unopposed media. meanwhile, trump is talking. how is this playing out? >> i know. and, you know, her campaign has a claimed that she is going to do a media interview by the end of the month, but we are getting dangerously close tonight of the month, and we still have received no information about when she's going to do that setdown interview. and i actually think you will start to see the media a turn on her a little bit, because they enjoy a quid pro quo with the democratic party. and if they don't get that the return on investment with kamala with her actually giving them press access, they're going to start to write negative headlines. we already saw this out of the washington post where they wrote that the article talking about her desire to implement price

controls on groceries saying, hey, it's not great idea if your opponent is calling you a communist to turn around and implement a communist policy. and you'll notice that the democratic national convention has been incredibly light on policy. it's all a been about platitudes and fear mongering about the other party, but they're not going to be able to get away with this for much longer. elizabeth: listen to james carville. i want you to listen to this. he's revealing it is about playing and manipulating the media, and the media is falling for this. watch james carville here. >> i've got news for everybody. just cool your jets here. there's plenty of time for this. oh, she's got to sit down, she's got to do a long-former is view, she's got today this. you know, in due course. in due can course. i mean, the whole operation is not even, it's not even been alive for a month. and she -- and, you know, we're going to --

[inaudible] in september the 1010th we've got a probable rate cut in mid september, and he's going to get sentenced on september 18th. and and i don't think she wants to do anything to get in front of that a story. elizabeth: so you hear that. let me back up, joe. you hear what he just said. she's not talking to the media. this is what she's being apparently advised because they want to talk about trump and his prosecutions, they want to talk about that sentencing in the new york case that now the prosecutors here say may go past the election. and they want to talk about other things like fed rate cuts. let the other media stories take hold, not kamala's policies. what do you think, joe? >> we're not talking about the issues that matter to people most based on gallup polling and other polls, right? the economy, illegal immigration. they don't want to talk about that because her record as vice president under joe biden is that bad. everything else as far as issues, by the way, is a distant third. the record is the record. donald trump needs to hammer

this home when they debate on september 10th, just three weeks from now. until then, kamala harris looks like a coward for not even sitting down with "the view," rachel maddow? how hard could that be? elizabeth: amber duke, we're so sorry we ran out of time. come back soon. joe concha, you were great. both of you, appreciate it so much. fox business programming alert, be ooh sure to shine thio coverage live from chicago starting at a 7 p.m. eastern time tonight only on fox business. next, we're welcoming back a business, small business owner from minnesota. he lost his entire family business under governor tim walz in the most disturbing way. it burned to the ground in the 2020 riots. forer minnesota bar -- former minnesota bar other than bill hupp is coming next. >> when the violent mobs of looters and anarchists tried

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liz: local minnesota voters ask how harris' running mate minnesota governor tim walz know how to run america when he botched running his own state. back with us now, bill huff. a small business owner and family business dates to the 1930s and burned to the ground in the 2020 riots. bill, great to have you back on again. can you tell us more about this. you boarded up your family business, then rioters came to harass you and your workers, then the fire department did not show up for three whole days during the riots and it burned to the ground. how much money did you lose? >> millions. in the complete destruction on our building and we've been there since 1934. it's always a work in progress, liz, that after the covid situation, where we were forced to shut down, we have to rethink and kind of re-coop our

operation before we open up and we didn't get that chance. not having police and fire available, there's not going to be any opening up of our facility again, which is terrible. complete failure of leadership, responsibilities and i couldn't believe what i was seeing and we've seen terrible times before, not like this. we were inundated with all the people from every other city in the country. there's a guy within the going through the crowd and we didn't know at that time, this guy going before we were going to we were going for our lives for that point. we have a look at that.

liz: what did tim walz do and not hearing so many 1500 businesses and hearing them burned to the ground in the state during the riots. what did he not do? what happened in >> he didn't do anything. we have no idea because these people surrounded us at six -- about 6:30 in the evening, and we're just trying to board up the windows and doors. we wanted to get out and we were completely surrounded by over 300 of these protesters, i call them a mob. it was terrible. completely surrounded us, got in our face, slandered us, terrorized us, and call us racial epatants and look all

these white people and they must be race exist once they found out i was one of the owners, then we were white privilege. you've got to learn to hate these people is what they're trying to proport for the agenda of these people that they were bringing around. liz: bill, we're so sorry. bill hupp, thank you so much. we hope to have you back on soon. it's a heart breaking story. >> we appreciate you, liz, and fox. thank you. liz: i'm elizabeth macdonald. thank you for watching "the evening edit" on fox business. dvr us and hope you enjoy the show and we'll stay on all the breaking news headlines for you. now time for the bottom line and dagen is at the dnc and sean is here in new york city. take it away, you guys. dagen: thanks, emac. ♪ ♪