(♪) (♪) (♪) (♪) larry: well, rfk jr. to the rescue for mr. trump? how absolutely delicious. that's how i put it. liz macdonald's going to take a whack at that too. lizzie, it's all yours. elizabeth: yeah,n't i can't wait, larry. that's the best a handoff.

welcome to "the evening edit," i'm elizabeth macdonald. >> and pit really isn't a revision, it's a total lie, total lie. there's never been a revision like this. the new data from the bureau of labor statistics shows that the administration padded the numbers with an extra, listen to this one, 818,000 jobs that that don't exist. so they said they existed -- [background sounds] and they never did exist. they built 'em up so that they could say what a wonderful job they're doing. no -- we've never had numbers like this. they don't exist. the real numbers are much worse than that. and comrade kamala, you know, she's comrade. the most radical left person ever to run for high political office in our country, gets another four years, millions of jobs will vanish overnight. ♪

elizabeth: okay, we've got what president trump is talking about. there's lots of fresh, new warnings for why kamala harris is expected to now drop in the in the. polls. first she's campaigning on fake job growth that wasn't there. >> -- the strongest economy in the entire world. [cheers and applause] >> he has created more than 15 million new jobs. elizabeth: no, he did not. those numbers false. coming up, biden and harris' own administration now say u.s. jobs numbers were overstated, inflated by more than 8000 -- 80000,000 jobs. we've got why it's likely higher than that. and harris wants a whopping $5 trillion tax hike that will hit the middle and working class on top of record inflation already hurting you. and she wants government price

controls. economists warn all this will drive the u.s. into a recession. we've got americans for tax reform's grover norquist. he and his team, they did the research on this. they did the legwork. he's here with new disturbing details you need to know about. plus, the dnc again talking hope and change, hoping you don't see harris' zero policy details. zero media interviews as they try to change the subject to blaming trump. >> they mentioned my name, i think, 271 times. they mentioned the economy, like, 12 times. they mentioned the border maybe none. elizabeth: everyone's favorite, stew leonard, of the popular supermarket chain, we love stew, he's here with what you should watch out for. but first, this. ♪ ♪ elizabeth: former president trump's campaign countering the dnc in full swing today to. he's barnstorming through north

carolina with his running mate, j.d. vance, in the battleground blitz this week. we've got grady trimble live at the rally in ash a borrow, north carolina -- ash borrow, north carolina. this is president trump's first outdoor rally since he was shot in pennsylvania, right, grady? it looked like security was really tight and he was protected by bulletproof glass. >> reporter: yeah, exactly, liz. there was bulletproof glass in front of and behind the podium where both he and senator j.d. vance spoke. that reflects the changes that the secret service have made since that attempted assassination in butler, pennsylvania. i actually had a chance to speak with the former president after the event. he seemed in good spirits, didn't seem fazed by being back to outdoor rallies. and the big news that was breaking today while he was speaking was that rfk jr. could drop out of the race potentially by tend of this week. i got his reaction to that -- by the end of this week. have you spoken to him in the last 24 hoursesome.

>> no, i haven't, no. i haven't, but i respect him. i've respected him for a long time. i mean, i know where he's coming from, and it's a little different philosophy. very smart guy, however, and i had heard he was thinking about it for a period of time but, no, i have not heard this, what you're telling me. >> reporter: he's going to be in arizona on friday. would you have him on stage with you at your rally? >> well, i think i'm going to be there on friday. we have a big crowd. i would always be honored to. if he endorsed me, would i be honored by that? absolutely. >> reporter: and we'll be in arizona on friday as well, liz. we'll see what happens. we're expecting rfk jr. to the make an announcement about the fate of his campaign, see if that means he drops out of the race which, of course, as you know, former president trump, the polling shows, stands to gain more from that than vice president kamala harris. so stay tuned for that. in the meantime, i also asked the former president about a bit of a controversy on the internet. he posted some images of taylor

swift that were a.i.-generated, and then the internet was all abuzz that trump's going to get sued over those images. listen to this. are you worried you're going to get sued, are you worried that taylor swift is going to sue you? >> i don't know anything about them other than somebody else generated them. i didn't generate them. they said, oh, look at this. these were all made up by other people. a.i. is very dangerous in that way. it's happening with me too, they're making concern they're having me speak. i speak absolutely perfectly on app i., and i'm, like, endorsing products and things. it's a little wit dangerous -- little bit dangerous out there. >> reporter: another piece of news that came out of the interview, i asked him, liz, about about all of the data coming many today suggesting that the fed could raise -- cut, rather, interest rates next month before the election, of course. and he says that he thinks that the fed might actually have to cut rates next month in order to avoid a calamity in the markets,

in the job markets. so he's, seems like he's expecting a rate cut when fed chair jerome powell, someone he's butted heads with in the past when he has the fomc meeting in september. liz? elizabeth: well, we sure can see that you enjoy covering president trump and f if omc meetings. [laughter] grady trimble, it's quite a ride. you did great, grady. thank you so much, appreciate you. >> she'll destroy our country just like she destroyed san francisco, just like she destroyed california. with a trump victory, we will once again have the greatest economy in history. we're going to do things that are going to make us so great so fast, we're going to bring it back. elizabeth: okay. former president trump speaking today. we've got this coming in, eerie, scary new video of attempted assassin thomas, crooks walking around the pennsylvania rally just hours before opening fire. let's bring in this, get to this story, americans for tax reform

president grover norquist. grover and his team did the legwork and, grover, you guys say kamala harris wants americans to pay $5 trillion in new tax hikes? on top of record inflation and her government price controls on groceries? i mean, this is worse than nixon and minnesota dale combined. -- and mondale combined. wouldn't this push the u.s. into a deep recession, grover? >> it certainly would. and these are positions that she has publicly stated, she has endorsed all of the tax increases that biden threatened to do next year, and she has added some of her own. sos the an amazing tidal wave of tax increases and wage and price controls going back to richard a nixon and jimmy carter and the lines where people waited to get gasoline. we have lived through this world, and it is not, it's not a pleasant world that kamala harris is thinking of dragging us back to.

elizabeth: okay, let's go through it. she wants a 39.6% top capital gains rate, double china's. it would hit single filers making only more than $400,000 a year, married if couples, 450k a year. that's solidly middle class. so the government would take half your capital gains in se your houses where you live like california and new york if it's all in with those states, and she wants a new 25% wealth tax on paper gains that do not exist yet. i mean, this is bernie sanders and elizabeth warren policy that's gone off the rails that even europe rejected as bad and wrong. if. >> if you look at the capital gains tax, she wants higher than china's. china's at about 20, she wants near 44%. and you have to add to that state capital gains taxes as well. many states, that'll push you up over half. why would an investor invest in the united states with that level of capital gains when

china's less than half as much? if it will drive capital from around the world out of the united states into creating jobs other places. if you're a small businessman and you and your spouse work for 30, 40 years to build up a business and then you sell it, the government would come in and in many states because of this higher capital gains tax half of what you've created would be taken away from you. after you'd spent 40 years paying income taxes and corporate income taxes and property taxes and sales taxes and fica taxes. elizabeth: and i'll tell ya, it would go deeper into the working class. it wouldn't stop there, and it would give the irs unprecedented power. finish like we've never seen. this is probably the worst economic plan we've ever seen for any presidential candidate in modern u.s. history. grover norquist, thank you so much. jobs are weaker because of biden-harris' inflation if their policies. if -- inflationary. businesses have been pulling

back. and harris has been campaigning on job growth that doesn't exist. the labor department today revised u.s. job growth down by 818,000 fewer jobs in the year through march. this is the second biggest revision ever. look who's here, we're so excited, the president and ceo of stew leonard's, the one and only stew leonard jr. joining us from the floor of his store in connecticut. stew, it's great to see you. >> how are you doing tonight? elizabeth: we love your stores. [laughter] were you surprised when you heard fewer jobs created last year through this year under the biden-harris administration? if you see big revisions downward in manufacturing, hotels and restaurants. we're seeing through july it's likely 1.2 million less jobs. what? >> well, you know -- what do you think? >> we just opened a new store down in clifton, new jersey, and we hired over 300people. we didn't have any problem hiring, we got some really first

class people. and we had to pay extra, the average pay rate are there is over $20 for skilled and unskilled jobs. so, you know, these, sometimes these big government numbers are lagging a while, and i don't really feel it on a day to day basis at our food stores up around the new york area. elizabeth: you know, stew -- yeah, wall street saying it's not a statistical rounding error, it's like 28% fewer jobs, statistical error is 2-33%. what do you think of her grocery price controls, the government would price cap, you know, grocery prices? kevin o'leary's asking what's next, administrative grocery pricing? how does that hit you guys? if what do you think about it? >> well, you know, like i have said to my friends and stuff, i haven't met anybody price gouging. i have met our farmers and ranchers that have been reflecting their price increases that they've had which has elevated food prices over the last two or three years. so we're seeing increases in,

you know, like everybody who has a house or a condo or an apartment, we're seeing costs go up on fuel, on energy, gas used to be around a $2, 3 a gallon, it's a little higher than that now. these are all money that our farmers have to tut -- to put, they've got to fill their tractors every morning to go plow if their fields and everything. i'm talking to most of my suppliers, they're friends 30 years now, they're not calling me up and trying to artificially increase their pricing. they're calling me because their prices are going up. elizabeth: interesting. so the input, the wholesale pricing yeah, it's going up. so, i mean, but, you know, what -- when you heard about a kamala harris campaigning on grocery price controls where the government would come in, i mean, this has collapsed nations like the joseph union and venezuela into -- soviet union and venezuela into shortages

it's always ended in" my. when you heard her idea, wade you think, smart or dumb? >> i would say for this price increase thing, i'm sure there are, you know, companies out there that saw maybe a little window curl covid and tried to take -- during covid and tried to take advantage of it. i assume there's a small percentage. my think most of the people -- i think most of the people out there right now had to increase their prices due to to the their costs going up, and i think, you know, overall regulation for our business, i think the government's great for help. i think for safety regulations and stuff, those are very good and protect the consumer. you don't have to monitor our pricing at our food store. prices go up and down every single day. i don't know how you'd manage it. and plus one thing i've learned in my 50 years of retailing in our family business, if you raise prices, guess what happens to sales? they go down.

elizabeth: that's right. >> so unless you're i gucci or prada or something like that -- blel elizabeth yeah. >> for the most part, let the market handle pricing. elizabeth: we'll look for your gucci cab aage and your prada peaches over there, stew. [laughter] thank you so much, stew leonard, the one and only -- >> hey, here's something for your grill right here. how's that? [laughter] you want to put that on your grill? elizabeth: that's a flintstone mutton chop if you ever saw one. you deserve 20% thank you on that. >> hey, this is what our ranchers want when they come back and visit, they want a tomahawk steak. elizabeth: i don't see a suburban housewife shopping for that. thank you so much, stew leonard. coming up, kamala harris' running mate, tim walz, doing just as many interviews as hearse so far, a big fat zero. this as tim walz faces increasing scrutiny. more than four dozen senators and lawmakers today call out walz in a public letter for embellishing and falsifying his

history. he's got a big dnc speech tonight. we've got more on his latest falsehoods. plus, the dnc talks a lot about hope and change. it's more about a hope and change the subject. voters left hanging hoping for harris' policy details. the trump campaign just launched their own web site to help out harris, making fun of her zero dales. democrats -- details. democrats are now trying to change the subject to blaming trump. >> -- the strongest economy in the entire world! [cheers and applause] 16 million new jobs. >> he has created more than a 15 million new jobs. elizabeth: they're trying to paper it over claiming 15 million new jobs blaming trump for all of the other ills in america they created. seattle radio host jason rantz wondering where are the policy details. he's here to talk about it. and dnc protesters got inside steven, colbert's studio audience to interrupt his

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elizabeth: welcome back. let's get you updated on what's going on outside the dnc in chicago. protesters had been going at it. bell democrats inside the convention continue to claim unity. mike if tobin reporting live in chicago where this had all a been unfolding. mike p it's good to have you on again. >> oh, it's great to be here, and the numbers are growing at the protest here in union park. if you look over my shoulder, this is a gathering of the u.s.-palestinian community network and the committee for justice in palestine. one of the organizers told us he was worried about the numbers showing up because they're doing this on a weekday, but you're

getting to the end of the weekday, and they're busing some people in from the moss ifings, they're joined by organizations like code pink. and so far it's a peaceful organization. just speakers at the platform. as far as last night, there was a big conflict, a rather clint conflict with police, burning of a flag, things of that nature, and mass arrest. the organizer here told me he doesn't necessarily mind those tack takes u -- tactics, it really depends on who is in the crowd. if you have women, sick people, children, you can't take it up a notch, but he did say you can do disruption and escalation because that simply gets people to listen to to your point. now, the pro-israel voices will also be heard today. the israeli-american committee won a spot at a speaker's platform about 10 minutes' walk from here. that is coming up in just a short time. they're going to be joined by the chicago alliance for israel. that is just a short time, and

they're turning that into a rally of their own, just a short distance walk from here. we're going to keep an eye on both of these demonstrations as the pro-palestinian demonstration here is about to start marching. liz? elizabeth: mike tobin's always great on the scene. thank you so much for your reporting there, sir. it's good to see you. >> there's two options that we're looking at, and one is staying in, forming that new party but we run the risk of a kamala harris and walz -- [laughter] presidency because we draw votes from trump, we draw somehow more votes from trump. or we walk away right now and join forces with donald trump and, you know, we walk away from that and we explain to our base why we're making this decision. >> would you also a consider putting him in the administration? >> you're asking me a very

unusual question. i haven't been asked that question yet. i like him a lot, i respect him a lot. i probably would if something like that would happen. elizabeth: rfk jr. now a wildcard in the race, his running mate talking about joining forces with trump. president trump said he'd consider giving r -- rfk jr. a job in his white house if he's reelected. ford o'connell, it's good to see you again. rfk jr.'s campaign announced they'll talk to the nation on friday. word is he's going to drop out. what does that do to the the vote now? does it pull votes from harris? >> this is an extremely big deal particularly if he endorses president trump. when we look at the swing states that are going to decide this election, your pa pennsylvanias, your georgias, your nevadas, what we find out is 46 of rfk voters would vote for trump if rfk wasn't in the race and only 26% would vote for harris if rfk wasn't in the race. this is a very big deal on the

lek or tomorrow map. elizabeth: so this has to be rattling the harris campaign, because i think in 2020 trump lost wisconsin, arizona and georgia only by, i think, about 43,000 votes. >> this absolutely is rattling the harris campaign because when the dnc started, the betting markets had her slight lay head. and on the news of this, now they're in a 5% favor for donald trump. and that's exactly right, you know, e-mac. basically 20-25 counties in this country are going to decide this election, and we're talking about 11-22 votes by precinct. it was close in 2016, close in 2020, and i expect it to be just as closes in 2024. elizabeth: talk to us, again, about the numbers you so kindly gave to us at the top of this segment, the breakdown if rfk jr. drops out and if he does endorse trump. i mean, growth the real clear politics average -- you've got the real clear politics average of polls, is the seven swing states currently within two

points or less. >> let's remember trump's ahead of where he was in 2016 and 2020, and kamala harris is behind where writtenton was in '16 and where biden was in 2020. the states that is say they will vote for rfk jr., 46 of them say if he wasn't in the race and only 26% would vote for kamala harris. almost a to -- two to one. elizabeth: well, ford, thank you for bringing that information. terrific stuff from the one and only ford o'connell. appreciate you so much. coming up, the media giving the obamas a mixed to negative if reaction. they did not like their dnc speeches. we're talking ark bc, the atlantic magazine, axios and more: they went big on blaming trump when trump has not been in office for four years. and they talked zero, nothing about detailed policies as

kamala's policies are m.i.a.. what are they going to do to the fix america after a biden and harris hurt america? >> they have trump derangement syndrome. we've driven 'em crazy. and they should be driven crazy. elizabeth: we've got next coming up seattle radio host jason rantz with us. he's going to give his take on what he thinks is really going on. also democrats, they talk big on unity. we're showing you enormous fencing and barriers outside the dnc and yet zero, no mentions of how biden and harris opened u.s. borders. none of that talk inside the d dplrks c. congressman buddy carter here to react on much more. we've got a lot of news this hour, stay there. >> they mentioned the border maybe none. they don't talk about the border. our great border czar doesn't talk about the border. we've driven 'em crazy. they have trump derangement syndrome. we've driven 'em crazy, and they

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>> i believe that at least the middle working class, we're the engine of the economy. but when we have millions of folks that are unable to afford health care, housing, childcare, i mean, that holds back our economy. >> but how is it fair that people are coming into this country getting free health care whereas people who work hard and have jobs and can't afford health insurance have to basically struggle and have enormous doctor bills? elizabeth: okay, voters speaking out to abc news on what gallup has already reported, the biden-harris white house the worst in modern u.s. history. abc, the atlantic magazine, axios giving mixed to negative reviews to the obamas' dn speeches last night. joining us now, talk radio host jason rantz. jason, it's great to see you.

so when you looked at it, jace, the obamas spent about half the time attacking trump. he hasn't been around for four years. and then started change about divisiveness. they spent a lot of time talking in the abstract, not about concrete details about kamala harris would fix america's problems they created in the first place because the the details are miss anything action. >> exactly. i don't know what details they can give when we're still waiting for some very specific policy prescriptions coming from this ticket. and, obviously, it's going to be a little bit more difficult for kamala harris because it's not like she can say that she has a whole bunch of policy record that she can bring forward for the next four years. she can't say i'm going to continue to do x, y and z because he, of course, knows it is so donely unpopular. so i -- deeply unpopular. of they're trying to figure out what's a going to to sell. not necessarily what she's going to do, because we already know

what she's going to do, what she and joe biden have done for the last four years. we're not going to get anything dramatically different. but they're focus grouping, trying to figure out what will sell specifically to the seven states that are ultimately, it certainly seems at least, going to determine who's going to be the next president. elizabeth: you know, nothing says deep division like the barricades outside the dnc that that you only see in war zones, zero policy talk about how to fix inflation that biden-harris ignited with overspending, the border crisis, fentanyl and drugs and killers and rapists pouring across hurting voters and their families, zero harris policies to fix all of that. they're blaming trump when democrats have run the white house for more than a decade. watch this. >> democrats have controlled the white house for 12 of the last 16 years, and for all of the talk about division and problems in the country and people are hurting, democrats have mostly controlled this country. if trump had it for -- trump had it for four, the obamas and

biden had it for the rest of the time. and somehow it's still all trump's fault, and somehow she hasn't been at the centerover to it. so to me, that's still the glaring hole in this campaign. elizabeth: i mean, kind of you can count on less than both hands the time they a talked about inflation, crime and the border. >> it is very odd because they will at times acknowledge people are suffering and yet never step back and say it's because of our policies, here's what we're going to do a little bit differently. to your point, they just pivot to donald trump. but, of course, it makes sense to go after the guy you're running existence, but they're not telling us the truth. we're being gaslit. elizabeth: jason rantz, wonderful to have you on. see you soon. coming up, watch this gaffe and grounderring -- blundering from both president biden and former president obama. >> kamala and i have are committed to strengthennenning illegal immigration. >> we can secure or borders without tearing kids away from their parents.

elizabeth: again, incompetent to be, misleading from former president barham if a ma. and you heard biden saying we can secure illegal immigration. he says we can secure borders without tearing kids away from their parents. that's misleading. what happened there was the border officials were worried that migrant children were with parents -- people, rather, people who were not their parents. and then you have this, the homeland security inspector general just put out a new report revealing tens of thousands of missing unaccompanied migrant children under this biden white house. from house budge, congressman buddy carter. it's good to the see you. when you see all this and put it all together, what's your reaction to it? >> well, obviously, we've got a humanitarian crisis at the border. i mean, this is, this is the really, really challenging our family security. i mean, here in the state the of georgia, laken riley. that's all you need to say. everybody understands that. it's challenging our economic

security here in this country with costing us so much money and taking up room in our hospitals, in our schools and costing american taxpayers $11,000 every year. and it's also our national security. who knows how many terrorists are coming across that border. all of this is a disaster at the border. and, yes, the border czar who's in charge, well, we've got a pence around the united center and the dnc, but we don't have a fence at the border. elizabeth: i want to just go through the numbers because if this is really, as you point out, a humanitarian crisis. the border is a crime scene, and it's humanitarian, explosive problems there. 2019, 2023. this is from homeland security inspector general. if this is the period spanning both the trump and biden-harris house. okay, so nearly 450,000 migrant children went from i.c.e. custody to hhs. 291,000 crossed the border

illegally. they are, they seem to be missing and unaccounted for. they lost track of at least 3 22,000 of them because they didn't show up for their court a dates. so how are we supposed to be okay with all of this? >> we're not, and we shouldn't tolerate it. that's why we need donald trump back in office. when donald trump was in office, we had the most secure border we've had in modern times. i mean, again, this is a disaster that has been caused by the biden-harris administration. and, look, kamala harris cannot wash her hands of this. she is responsible. she was the border czar. i mean, you know, the leading cause of death now for 18 to 39 years old is fentanyl. fentanyl is coming across that border infesting all of our communities and causing a drug poisoning. it's fentanyl poisoning. they're poisoning our citizens. we can't tolerate this anymore. elizabeth: congressman carter, a pleasure to see you. thank you so much for being with us tonight. >> thank you.

elizabeth: okay, this story, kamala harris' running mate, tim walz, he too is not doing any interviews. the number is a big fat zero. he's aawol too. >> governor walz! governor walz, governor walz, governor walz. governor walz is doing his best job ignoring me right now. elizabeth: yeah, that's tim walz with. he's ignoring the immediate immediate -- media just like kamala harris. more than four dozen senators and lawmakers today called him out for falsifying and embellishing his military record. those lawmakers are military veterans. he's got a big dnc speech tonight to. we're going to take on his latest falsehoods. and we've got dnc protesters speculating -- heckling nancy pelosi. this is another embarrassment for nancy pelosi. we've got the sound is. but first, my buddy dagen is having a ball at the dnc.

let's see what's coming up on "the bottom line." dagen: thanks, e-mac. congressman michael waltzes bringing some sanity to this event. he's not -- well, nice chicago. he will be joining me to talk about, well, kamala harris has now borrowed joe biden's tax a plan. that's destruction for the united states of america. we have monica crowley. ben domenech weighs many on the head of the uaw calling people who are pro-life despicable. he said even worse. and then stuart varney is here. he will tell you why he thinks bernie sanders is the one person who's spoken so far who is the person you should be paying attention to most. and it's frightening. top of the hour. ♪hous ♪ ...to empty nest... ...to free birds. vanguard personal advisor can help you prepare for every chapter. we got this. that's the value of ownership.

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>> what won't stolen valor tim walz fib if about? in fact, i believe in his next speech he's probably going to say he survived an assassination attempt in pennsylvania. i think that's what tim walz is going to claim next time. [laughter] elizabeth: that was trump's running mate, j.d. vance, taking it to governor tim walz. he's got his dnc address tonight, overshadowed by scrutiny over how he hurt voters in his home state of minnesota. more of them have been speaking out and also how it's been

'em -- he's been embellishing his record. garrett tenney with more. >> reporter: yeah, liz, they're also speak out about a hotline governor walz set up during the pandemic to allow neighbors to report on neighbors for violating his lockdown orders. and as we've been going through these reports, more than 67000 through e-mail alone in 2020 -- 6700, we have found cases as small as a apartments allowing their kids to play outside. in other examples, like this one the person admits they don't know the details, but they'd still like the state to investigate. quote, i don't know what the rules are exactly for this type of thing, but i just saw a lady and a child i've never seen before come to that house and hug someone outside before heading inside for a few minutes and then leave. this person sent in a picture of a group of women exercising in a parking lot while socially distancing and told the state, i have a real problem with this.

governor walz at the time encouraged people to report any violations of his lockdown orders which is why he's now facing some blowback for remarks like this one just yesterday on the campaign trail. >> many minnesota we respect our neighbors, we respect their personal choices. even if we would not make the same choice as our neighbor, we respect 'em because we live by that golden rule. mind your own damn business! [cheers and applause] if mind your own damn business. >> reporter: a lot of minnesotans felt that same way about a walz's covid hotline. one person wrote in, mr. walz, you should be ashamed. nice way to turn neighbor against neighbor. another said i'm writing to expression press my concern about how completely juvenile this complaint line are. we're now tattling like children. walz was also criticized for violating his own covid-19 orders when he attended a indoor packed memorial service for george floyd, the very kind of violation he was encouraging

folks in his state to call the hotline to report. liz. elizabeth garrett, the details are so absurd, and this is who we want for vice president? garrett tenney, thank you so much. >> my little theory about why they decided to have the convention in chicago is, you know, tim walz has been going around saying that he served in war, and maybe they did it in chicago so that he could actually accurately say he visited a combat zone -- [laughter] [applause] because chicago, i mean, look, chicago has violent crime statistics that actually mirror, again, third world, highly violent countries. elizabeth: look who's back with us, julian epstein. julian 145s years of capitol hill experience. he served as former chief counsel for house judiciary during the clinton impeachment. julian, what do you make of tim walz here? >> well, look, i think the democrats right now are suffering from a joy delusion. they're having a successful

convention. the soaring oratory skills of both obamas yesterday has really sort of fueled this. but i think the democrats' delusion is that they can go through this campaign without answering questions from the press and pivoting to the left on economic issues, and there's just absolutely no issue that either of those -- no evidence that either of those two approaches are going to work. elizabeth: you know, we've got new reports 50 gop military vets in the senate and the house sent out a public letter denouncing walz for embellishing and lying his national guard record. he's been criticized saying he carried weapons of war in war. he was never deployed to a combat zone, he was deployed to italy. guy benson asked if he's so willing to shamelessly lie for political gain, what won't he lie about? he has lied about drinking and driving, about using invitro fertilization, his wife did not, and axios is building

fact-checking efforts around a walz as well as trump. even cnn is calling out tim walz for his lies. we're seeing across the internet people are starting to wake up. >> this is the tipping point, i think, the axios story. just ask john kerry and michael dukakis if you can get away with not answering charges like this from your opponents. the data right now is at least a third of voters believe they have no idea where harris-walz is on the issues. the vote -- the campaign is underperforming by significant numbers where clinton and biden were in the swings. and if the polling error is anywhere near where it was in 2216 or 2 20, donald trump is ahead. the this idea that you shouldn't answer questions and define yourself is doing exactly the opposite of what they need to be doing which is going after the undecided voters and sort of stiff arming the press isn't going to do it. elizabeth: yeah, you don't go after undecided voters with no

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>> kamala harris, president of the united states. for the people at home, there's a protest doing on in the audience. a after the commercial break and subject on israel and palestine, if you'll have a seat, we have to go to the commercial break. when we come back, i'll ask the next question on that subject, if you'll listen. liz: they didn't want to talk about that but it's really striking that protesters interrupted nancy pelosi's interview with late night host steven colbert as it was happening live at dnc. bring in congressman ralph norman. congressman, nancy pelosi is speaking tonight. what do you make of her getting heckled here and how bad is the democrat party division? kamala harris faces a boycott

vote threat in states like michigan and minnesota. when you saw that from where you sit, how bad is it? >> two things, liz. the fact that the protester got in the colbert show is one thing. but the fact that when he or she started screaming and he basically recognized her. you would think as experienced as a host as colbert is he'd get her out and don't let one person do that and nancy pelosi's comments don't surprise me for her comment saying war has no place in the civilized society. i'm sorry. the attack that took place in octoberen ease reel, the poor people of israel lost their lives and babies were burned and women raped. liz: nancy has a new book, the

art of power. it's rich and the voters seeing one of the greatest exercises of undemocratic power in modern u.s. history and pelosi leading the charge for biden to drop out and threatening to bash them in public. he didn't notice the decline before he dropped out. and she's a bear knuckle politician. >> she's bear knuckled and >> just like joe biden, that's it. liz: congressman norman, appreciate you for joining us tonight. i'm elizabeth macdonald, thank you for watching "the evening edit" on fox business. that does it for us. don't forget to dvr us. time to send it to bottom at the bottom line -- dagen at the bottom line at the dnc. take it away, dagen. dagen: thank you, emac. sure