larry: full-time for truths and not flip-flop whether it's afghanistan or border wall or economic growth. truths are the winner and flip-flops are the loser and liz macdonald is always the winner. louisiana liz: thank you, larry. what a great way to start my monday. welcome to the evening edit. i'm elizabeth macdonald and trump is gaining in the polls. tonight, new york times says the

honmy noon is over for -- honeymoon is over for kamala harpeharris and silver predictsp will bin in a landslide. why did semis put up a weak nominee and not ready to be commander in chief and full of rhetoric and allies are nervous and down playing the debate tomorrow night with trump. >> it'll take almost super human focus and discipline to deal with donald trump. >> donald trump is a skilled de-bay torr. >> he is a good debater and it'll be close. liz: how can kamala harris take on putin and details how biden, white house created the worst foreign policy crisis from vietnam and batching the catastrophic exit out afghanistan that left 13

receives members murdered and a damming catalog of biden and ignoring warnings from the bent gone chief and staff chair and commanders and more and then biden and the white house lied about it. covered it up. also, a doj spokesman for the manhattan u.s. attorney office apologizes and he was caught on tape trashing both da's alvin bragg and fani willis' cases against trump. also, voters who have cross -- across america are speaking out and angry that biden is harris ignited border crisis and abandoned their towns and neighborhoods. >> our services are understaffed and who's protecting us? if we're protecting them, who's protecting me? i want out of this town want i'm sorry. liz: this is terrible stuff. fecialer dhs acting secretary

chat wolf is here. battling news of worsening u.s. jobs market blamed on bidenomics and hyper-regulations and taction and u.s. lost 1.5 million full-time jobs since june of 2023. part-time workers, part-time workers surge by a little over 1 million. that's the 16th straight month of part-time jobs growing and longest streak since the 2008 financial crisis. more and more people moonlighting, doing part-time jobs is make ends meet. bring in jeff van drew. congressman, it's wonderful to see you begin. let's show this and new york times reports that kamala harris honeymoon is over and trump is leading harris 48-47. trump leads on the economy, border and now 538's silver predict as landslide victory for trump saying he'll win all the swing states. this is quite a turn around. >> it's a big turn around, but not really. she had a bit of brief

honeymoon. nobody really knew who she was and what she was doing and what she accomplished and they tried to fabricate this candidate and it's not realistic because she hads a record. she was in office. when they're trying to do is say don't look at what she did. just listen to what she says now. don't follow her actions for 3.5 years as vice president of the united states. just look at the words that she's saying. it doesn't work. and it'll catch up with her more and more as people realize she's as responsible for this economy, for this border, for everything that's happening in our urban areas. the list goes on and on, liz. she's as responsible as joe biden. she was part of it. in fact, she used to make fun of anybody who criticized it. liz: congressman, the big red flag of the poll say more than 60% the next president should represent a major change. 53% say trump is that but only

25% say that of harris. even discount chains are struggling. big lots just filed for bankruptcy blaming economic factors like inflation, high interest rates. harris is doing worse at this point than other democrats like in 2016 clinton led trump by 2 points and biden by 8 in 2020. >> less people are participating in the jobs market right now and numbers of his panic americans with jobs now and number of african americans down and asian americans down. the biggest decrease and downturn as far as numbers when we look at actual economy and jobs over 800,000 of the department of labor put out. i talk to real people on the streets, small businesses, restaurants, hotels, all of those folks, and they are all saying something's happening and not as good as it used to be. i'll give you one statistic and

leave you with this: it costs twice as much today to buy a starter home than it did four years ago. find me people making twice as much today as they did four years ago and there's not many. liz: yeah, this is now starting to show up in the anal cyst of the polls -- analysis of the polls, congressman. watch this. >> i want to look at pennsylvania, pennsylvania, pennsylvania, and we see a tightening race in the commonwealth of pennsylvania. this to me is part of a emerging part earn in a veryive toll state and -- pivotal state and a small harris lead in the margin of error bye bye bye ago race that's way, way, way too close to call at this particular point. one that is even. if trump outperforms his current polls by a single point, take that kamala harris win and look at this, donald trump gets 287 electoral votes, a single point could make all the difference. >> but she has kind of a

disadvantage in that poll. inner its of presenting herself as change candidate. >> this will be donald trump's seventh general election presidential debate. seventh. that's more than anyone in history. so i think there is a level of kind of comfort for him and she's never been in a presidential debate. do you think she'll be a little more nervous? she's got more writing on it. i l liz: final word, congressman. >> bottom line, 2016, 2020, both elections donald trump outperformed his polling and always does. he's going to bin, but we shouldn't be over confident and we have to work very, very hard every minute of every day of every week till the last day on tuesday. liz congressman van drews, good to see you. thank you. former president trump and vice president harris hitting the debate stage tomorrow night in philadelphia and they're neck and neck in the polls and trump is gaining and moving up. fox news' alexandria hoff live

in philadelphia with more on this story. good to see you, alexandria. repookay -- liz. okay, looks like we'ring have difficulty and we'll come back. we'll simulcast the debate at 9:00 p.m. eastern time and a two hour bottom line tomorrow night. >> senator harris said she's proud of her record as a prosecutor and she'll be a prosecutor president but i'm deeply concerned about this record. there's too many examples to site, but put over gush cite but publicly over 200 people in jail for marijuana and laughed when asked if she ever smoked marijuana. she blocked evidence that would have freed a innocent man from death row till the courts forced her to do so, and fought to keep

cash bail system in place. that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way. larry: that wassal seizure disorders -- liz: that was tulsi gabbard hammering harris in the 2019 debate and tulsi gabbard helping trump prepare for the debate tomorrow night. we're joining being washington post columnist m mark thee san. great to have you on the show. what do you expect from the debate? >> that was four years ago and she hasn't debated in four years. how does a candidate normally prepare for debate? well, first of all they go through a gauntlet of primary debates and getting challenged by own members of their own party and refine and explain where they stand and prepare tough questions and media interviews and press conferences and town halls with voters, including independences and swing voters that might not necessarily be voting for them opposed to hand picked democratic crowds and they take

tough questions and answer them and joe biden in 2020 and trump has done that and this is how you refine your ideas. you give major policy addresses and think through what you want to do as president. kamala harris has done none of that. she's been in a protective coo con for most of the vice presidency and ever since she got in the nomination and when she did that interview on cnn and the one interview, she fumbled most obvious and simple question. dana bash asked her what will you do an day one as president? she just stammered and delivered a word sackmary lad. how can -- salad. how can you not know the answer and go into a debate well when you cant answer that. liz: how does she handle with the muted mics with jumbled word salad and seems her campaign is down playing the debate before it happens. she put up a policy platform long on rhetoric and federal

crackdown on price gouging when nearly 40 states already do that. so it just seems like there's a relatively constant empty nows and vacuous of what's going on and how do we put up a nominee that's not ready for prime time? >> needing someone that wasn't joe biden and wouldn't be a huge interparty fight ask knocked joe biden it the side and picked her and rallied around her even though the fact a few monarchies ago the new york times was doing a story about how terrible she was as a vice president and no one had any confidence in her and now all the sudden she's the second coming of fdr. look, she knows that when she starts poulting specifics on the table, she's driving away voters. because her policies are worse than biden's. her one policy address she gave and widely panning by the washington post, which is not conservative at all, panned it. she proposed spending $2 trillion. that's how we got inflation in the first place.

they spent $2 trillion so called covid relief bill that injected so much money into the economy it overheated and didn't raise prices. she wants to spend another $2 trillion. liz: that covid bill had hundreds of bills in government waste fraud and abuse. watch senator john fetterman here and senator bernie sanders. watch this. >> as want to say it's going to be a straight up debate. she's going to do great, of course, but donald trump will be good too. i mean, we can all remember, we wept all of the republicans and he's a good debater. at the end of the day, i don't believe this debate will be definitive because it's going to come down to choice and it'll be close. >> i don't think she's abandoning her ideals but trying to be pragmatic and doing what she thinks is right in order to win the election. liz: flip-flopping is okay and doing what's right to win the election? know what the american people are sick of, marc, when they read through the polls, they're sick of being lied to and sick

of being manipulated and gas lit. this is the worst presidency in the history of the united states in the history of lying and gallop said they're the worst in modern u.s. history since eisenhower and for a reason. it's a catastrophic cascade of lying, misleading statements to the american people. kamala harris is doing it too in her own way by omission by doing a campaign out of a bell jar and not talking to the american people. >> yeah, she's not being up front and the american people have a right to know what the president will do on day one copping into the oval office. one of the most revealing parts of the report that came out and one-third of the american people don't know enough about kamala harris to decide if they want to support her or not. this vibes and joy thing not lasting till election day. liz this is a story with legs. it's a catastrophic choice of kamala harris as a nominee and donald trump performing tomorrow night in the debate. thank you, m marc thiessen, gret

to have you on. >> i weight 95 pounds and couldn't defend myself if i had to. after living in this home for 45 years. he said it's time to pack up and leave. he said we can't do this anymore. it's killing both of us. liz: okay, even more sound of voters speaking out. this voter in ohio they say the biden white house and kamala harris ignited a really bad historic border crisis and then abandoned them to a taxpayer and housing crisis that this white house created in their hometowns. tonight, former president trump acting dhs secretary chad wolf takes that on. and biden doj smokesman now apoll -- spokesman apologizes for slamming da bragg and fani wilson's case against trump and first, more details on the damming house foreign affairs report and how the biden harris

white house botched the exit out of afghanistan. top military intelligence commanders and nato allies said do not do it this way. but they lied about it to cover it up to the american people. congressman cory mills, a former army sniper, he'll take it on next. >> only ones that are doing any parading, political parading is the democrat party. go back to what happened in administerlington, there's a day to look for to finally get recognition from the government that the former president is coming to honor kids and lay a wreath of the unknown soldier, and they use it as a way to use it as like a political leverage. they got political about it. and, you know -- i don't know. you know, the afghanistan withdraw, it's all out there now. it's in every report and i don't know how they can try to spin this in any way. there's not really any leverage

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the moment i met him i knew he was my soulmate. "soulmates." soulmate! [giggles] why do you need me? [laughs sarcastically] but then we switched to t-mobile 5g home internet. and now his attention is spent elsewhere. but i'm thinking of her the whole time. that's so much worse. why is that thing in bed with you? this is where it gets the best signal from the cell tower! i've tried everywhere else in the house! there's always a new excuse. well if we got xfinity you wouldn't have to mess around with the connection. therapy's tough, huh? -mmm. it's like a lot about me. [laughs] a home router should never be a home wrecker. oo this is a good book title. liz: welcome back. house republicans now demand new legislation that would require proof of u.s. citizenship to vote in frailly lockerbie bomberses. states like virginia, texas, also alabama removing thousands

of noncitizens from voter roles over the last several years. will they take it as far as a government shutdown when republicans go that far? it's that time of year again. now we'll go to fox news senior congressional correspondent chad pergram live on capitol hill with more on this story. good to see you, chad. reporter: elizabeth, good afternoon. republicans insist on attaching proof of citizenship mandate to a bill to fund the government and some republicans are kept cskeptical of the bill and support a possible government shutdown and not house speaker mike johnson. >> what's your fallback fogs? >> there's no fallback position, this is a righteous fight and what the american people demand. taking the polls and look at polls, it's about 87% of american citizens believe you ought to have proof of citizenship. reporter: some republicans oppose voting for interim spending plan, which runs

through next march and others want to knicks a major spending bill in december, which could aid ukraine. >> i have conservative colleagues that freedom caucus and others don't like this because they don't like crs and want us to do other bills and figure out how to guarantee to freeze spending and ensure the integrity of elections. reporter: this comes as doj says undocumented woman in alabama assumed identity of american citizen around 2011. she pleaded guilty to voting illegally in multiple elections and committing fraud to obtain a passport. liz. liz: thank you so much, chad pergram. appreciate you so much. voters are speaking out against the border crisis hitting their hometowns. watch the heart breaking woman a springfield, ohio, resident tell as local town meeting she "can't take it anymore" as migrants harass her and also her elderly husband daily and then you're

going to hear from a voter in alabama speaking out too. watch this. >> we have too many data committing gone people coming and applying for free stuff and here we are working, paying those taxes every week for what? >> so unsafe in my neighborhood and i have the homeless trying to camp out and i've made concessions with them and try to help them the best i can to keep tthem from trying to squat on my property and it's so unsafe. >> assassinated in 2021 and there's no way -- [inaudible]. >> i second. >> second. >> all in favor.

liz: voters are getting cut off from speaking at town meetings because of this white house collapsing the border. bring in former acting dhs secretary under former president trump and he's cha. chad, good to see you again. when you hear that sound, what is your reaction? >> well, that's just every day americans that are frustrated on effects of this border crisis in what we've seen over the four years. you know, it's not enough that you have the illegal behavior going on down there, but the impact on every day communities and cities and towns across this country. i think what they're most frustrated about is that the biden harris administration is not listening to them. they're not saying, hey, maybe we should put a pause on this or stop this or go in a different direction because our cities and our communities are being overrun, and you're not hearing us because it just continues to happen day over day over day week after week and that's

what's most concerning and that's what you're hearing in a lot of town halls. liz: seeing more and more voters speaking out and angry that biden harris white house collapsed the border leaving americans to fend for themselves alone and abandoned. they're seeing higher taxes, higher crime, and now a housing crisis. 20,000 migrants from h haiti poured into springfield, ohio. in 2020 that population was about 58,000. now it's like 20,000 more in that town. >> yeah, it's crazy. the biden harris administration instituted a parole program and bringing in individuals every single month, up to 30,000 of them from cuba, haiti, nicaragua and venezuela. these are all countries that are problematic on a variety of fronts but you see a lot of those februaries now residing in american communities so from haiti for instance, you have almost 500,000 haitians that

have been relocated here to the united states over the last three and a half years. over 700,000 venezuelans that have been relocated here under this unlawful parole program. we've never seen this before in the history of our country. no administration has done this. liz: there's another nasty underbelly to this too. we've reported on hhs whistle blowers testifying that the biden harris white house "has become the middleman in a large scale multibillion dollar child trafficking operation run by bad actors profiting off the lives of children. we're now seeing 320,000 unaccompanied children have gone missing and nancy pelosi keeps saying it's about the children. what about them? they could be enforced labor in human trafficking rings and gang member in the u.s. illegally caught attending a public school in maryland, even though he was a primary suspect in a vicious murder. he had been sentenced to 70 years in prison, but he's in a

public school? >> it's outrageous and it's what happen when is you're overreturn at the boarder and border patrol and law enforcement can't do their job and threat these individuals and you're mass releasing them into american communities and you'll have these types of stories coming out day after day after day and the american people are tired of it. liz: chad wolf, thank you for joining us. good to see you. coming up, details from the damming house foreign affairs report and how the biden harris white house botched exit out of afghanistan and joint chiefs of staff chair and pentagon chief and author of director and national intelligence. secretary of state said don't do this this way and nato ally said don't do it this way and they did it. thirteen more thans killed and they lied to cover it up. cory mills, army sniper, evacuated people out of afghanistan and he'll take it on

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liz: biden was so hell bent to rush out of afghanistan if get a headline in time for anniversary of 9/11. 13 soldiers murdered and thousands stranded and lied to cover it up. bring in from house foreign affairs congressman cory mills. the congressman is a formy army combat veteran and helped evacuate americans out of afghanistan. congressman, thanks for joining us. white house trying to down play this and kamala harris trying to blame trump for this. kamala harris is trying to blame trump? >> this is him trying to deflect from the failed foreign policies and harris admitted in the past going on record to say she was the last to come into the room with regards to this afghan

botched withdraw. it was also made very clear by general mckenzie and former chairman of the joint chief of staff general millithat president trump had actually at the behest of his generals had recommended for a smaller contingent force to remain behind when he realized that in the event of withdrawing civilians that we'd need to maintain a temporary military presence. again, this entire event was politics over strategy and biden and harris administration with harris with the final decision making has admitted they thought it was great success. talk to 13 gold star families and ask them whether or not they think it was a great success. they're touting the greatest air lift operations ever. they won't admit that over 60% of those out had never been vetted with bio-metrics and printing visas and actual document at local printer to be able to board the aircrafts that weren't fully vetted. it's not a great advancement and

it was dereliction of duties and my impeachment against lloyd austin and the president is that exact thing that . is inclusion of status quo. liz: john kirby insists they've been transparent about the withdrawal. >> that's false. if they were being transparent why was it that secretary blinken tried to withhold the dissent cables that have the most in history of department of diplomats and 23 members sending a classified document saying if they go forward with a current strike thaty it'll result in american lives being lost. they knew about it and tried to cover it up. same with secretary austin that received intel briefs. not of just the actual explosive bomber but bolo prior to it and notification with the plan in place operating on the day of october 21st -- october 26, 20221. this is not they didn't know and being transparent. they tried to cover it up and got caught. liz: president biden insis taint no one was killed on his watch.

and 13 troops killed and three troops killed in jordan. didn't colonel seth, the chief of staff for special ops command testify that had president biden decided we're going to leave but he's not listening to anybody. biden ignored pentagon chief, top military officials and staff chair and odni and secretary of state and nato allies saying you're not prepared to do this biggest u.s. evacuation ever. they were advised by top leaders of taliban already in violation of the trump doha agreement and they're not obligated to leave. then the former spokesman admitting in testimony that the doha agreement was immaterial to biden's decision to leave. he decided his own time line on his own to get a glowing headline for the upcoming 20th anniversary of 9/11. now he's trying to blame trump. >> that's exactly right, liz. he tried to play politics over the safety of military and playing politics over the

advisement of military strategists and state department and odni and intelligence community and did so at risk and sacrifice of 13 brave americans and 13 heros and gold star families that he recently tried to politicize against. again, harris has to acknowledge the fact that not only is she responsible for this, but she's responsible for all of the things that's copping to that including delisting of houthis as terrorist organization and plus up of revenue and economy on iran, which has led to increased attacks in october 7 in israel. this is multiple events of why she's not fit for president and while we're saver under president trump. liz: congressman mills, thank you for your service to america and joining us today. good to see you. >> you too. liz: let's please watch hbo's mill march call out -- bill maher call out liberals for being hub critical when they're bullies themselves. >> one person in hollywood without a single enemy? well, now she does.

because she didn't throw her husband urn the bus when her husband made a decision about something which she's made plain she disagrees with. you want to know why i have a bug occupy my [bleep] about the left more than i used to? it's like this. there's an ugliness they never used to have. the liberals i grew up respecting, none of them are like this. going after the wife, even the mafia doesn't do that. there's a lot of people these days i call liberal in theory. in theory they hate bullying. terrible. in practice the attitude social security not bullying when i stick your head in the toilet. liz: now to this story, a top justice department spokesman in new york city apologized after he was caught on a hidden camera slamming manhattan da alvin bragg's case against president trump and slamming da fani willis' case against trump and calling the da bragg's case "nonsense and perversion of

justice". stephanie hamill joining us now. he apologized for saying that da bragg was "just out to get trump and stacking charges and rearranging things just to make it fit with a case against trump that they should never have brought it and every person in real estate does what trump did". and after letitia james' case. what do you make of all this? >> i'm wondering why he's apologizing and saying what a lot of us have been saying over the past several months. that this is a perversion of justice and that the legal system has been weaponnized against a political candidate. and it doesn't matter where you stand politically, everyone in this country should be concerned what has happened to donald trump. he said, i guess if you will the quiet part out loud, which is that many on the left didn't want to admit. he said i'm in the secret video

and i will say i've been able to independently verify everything that we saw, and we only need to be careful when we watch clips and videos that the commentator and conservative steven crowder says he has a full video on his website if people want to watch it. they highlighted the most important point in that it wasn't just this one particular case. i mean, this spokesman was concerned about almost all of the cases against trump. basically saying this was a political attack. liz: also calling fani willis' case a travesty of justice and k seizure disorders of justice and this whole story and what else is being said behind the scenes. final word. >> my final word is he didn't deny anything in this video. just apologized for it and said that --

liz: show the report that he did apologize. go ahead, stephanie. >> he did apologize for this and he was saying he was just trying to impress somebody that he just met. but he's trying to distance himself from his own comments and it's unfortunate because he could have become the hero in the situation, by admitting the obvious saying we chose not to go down that route. politically speaking, i don't know how this will end up for him, but it's not looking good and this again, just confirms what so many republicans and donald trump have been saying for many months. liz: stephanie h hamill, terrifc to see you and thanks for having them on. >> yesterday announced we lost 438,000 full-time jobs in august. we lost 400, almost half a million jobs in august.

we lost # 24,000 manufacturing jobs and 6,000 automanufacturing jobs. liz: coming up, rfk jr. says the gop is the new party of the working man. we'll dig into that. conservative author horris cooper here with his response and also tonight, uh oh, kamala harris surrogates getting nervous about the debate with trump tomorrow night indicating they think she's not ready. >> it will take almost superhuman focus and discipline to deal with donald trump. >> donald trump is a skilled de-bay torr and wept all the republicans and he's a skilled debater and it'll be close. liz: if kamala ha harris is not ready for the debate. is she ready to be president. chris bedford and breanna lyman here. we want to check in with dagen and sean on the bottom line. >> they, emac. that debatable co-ing up tomorrow and democrats down playing expectations for kamala

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the moment i met him i knew he was my soulmate. "soulmates." soulmate! [giggles] why do you need me? [laughs sarcastically] but then we switched to t-mobile 5g home internet. and now his attention is spent elsewhere. but i'm thinking of her the whole time. that's so much worse. why is that thing in bed with you? this is where it gets the best signal from the cell tower! i've tried everywhere else in the house! there's always a new excuse. well if we got xfinity you wouldn't have to mess around with the connection. therapy's tough, huh? -mmm. it's like a lot about me. [laughs] a home router should never be a home wrecker.

oo this is a good book title. >> this kamala harris thing because it's whispered all the type. i know kamala harris. she's so horrible. nobody's going to vote for joe biden. first of all, let me say it again, nobody in the history of america has ever voted for a presidential candidate because of a nice presidential candidate. it doesn't happen. liz: now she's the candidate. we're tracking about a dozen flip-flops by kamala harris and washington examers byron york has a column pointing out the media's own flip-flops of kamala harris. bring in the federalist correspondent. breanna lyman and author of

beltway crisis and chris bedford. first to you, breanna. the media outlet championing harris now were reporting not so long ago stories critical of her as a bad vice president. >> liz, it's interesting that now in hindsight and look back for example cnn wrote an article in 2021 that west wing staffers and people in kamala's inner circle said kamala felt constrained by her time as vice president and new york times comes out with recent reports sasaying that kamala, you know, she get as speech and realizes it's lackluster and terrible and within an hour, she helps her staff kind of rewrite the speech to make it so spirited. what we're seeing right now is this subtle defense that's being run. the media is trying to blame shift all of harris' shortcomings and put it on, for example, incompetent staffers and the fact she's the vice president. they're trying to make harris a victim of her own role so people

don't tether her to the biden harris administration but just to a brand new candidate and biden stands alone on the record. liz: she's the incumbent. what brianna is saying and she's the incumbent and been in the white house for nearly four years. byron york, they point out the media were so panicked by harris and started complaining about three years ago if joe biden didn't run again, what would they do? then adios reporting that the biden white house insider is biden's top aid laning routinely to the media to kamala harris is problematic and disappointment and has a lot of staff turnover and then this glowing coverage on msnbc and other net works for her. not really reporting to the people and giving them informed consent about what's going on. >> you're right. they're trying to memory hole every thought about kamala harris. all the polling about kamala harris and things the president himself said about her and one

point where the top editors of politico reported that the president wondering if she even know knew who she wanted to be. they're trying to re-invent her and there's a problem. they're trying to make her into kind of a barack obama kind of figure and came on the scene and bust on virally at democratic national convention with a rousing speech, rose up quickly as adjourning senator and as actual outdoorer and taken hard stances against iraq war against his own party and rose up and beat hillary clinton. this is not kamala harris. she never had a primary, never had a debate, never did any of those steps. hasn't had the votes cast for her and it's beginning to fed a little bit. there's so much to push her out there and it's because of that, they put a lot of pressure on her performance tuesday night against donald trump and people are going to be watching carefully and needs to not just stand her ground but she needs to hit it out of the park. the polls show her way too close for a democrat at this point in the election. liz: interesting analysis.

brianna lyman and chris bedford. thank you. kamala harris having a hard time turning out the vote from a big democrat base in battleground georgia. could this swing the election toward tram nap that state and horris cooper knows what's going on and he's coming up next. >> you better thank your mother and thank a union member for paid leave, you better thank a union member for vacation time. ♪

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>> i mean, i'm trying to put myself out there. you've got to answer the tough questions. >> i think she should drop out right now. >> yeah, she should -- >> she should do more interview, she's a public figure. >> it's getting close to the election, i think she avoids the press. do more interviews and more tigz, i would say. like, than what she actually does out there for real. elizabeth: look at this news out of reuters, reuters is reporting a battle royale being waged for black voters who make pup a third of georgia's to population. that's the biggest in any of the seven battleground statements

that will decide the election. let's bring in the chair of the project 21 project, he's hour race cooper. horace, when you see black voters speak out like this and you see nate silver's model that a trump has an 84% chance of winning overall if he gets georgia and an 811% chance if he wins north carolina, it's really the democratic voter bases that's key for him to pull away. >> first, let me say that project 32 the 1 is nonpartisan, but let me tell you what i think because i wrote about this. we had elections in the year 2018 in the state of georgia and in the state of florida in which black candidates ran as progressives. guess what? in a year that was overwhelmingly good for the left, in these two states the left are the democrats lost and the margin of victory was the black vote. and it's precisely because of a

phenomenon that is increasingly clear. black americans just because they support democrats and identify as a democrat doesn't mean that that they're progressives. they're looking for programs that actually improve their lives and that of their family's. what we're seeing in many of these instances are appeals that have nothing to do with the basic issues that black americans face. and that's why georgia begans, especially -- georgians, especially blacks, are very, very likely to be more interested in a real program, a real policy than a lot of these affinity and joy and things of that nature that have nothing to do with who people really are. elizabeth: what concerns black voters most of all about this race? >> this economy has been awful. you go to the grocery store and

you almost have to fill out a credit app when you get ready to check out. black americans are finding that that pain of inflation if is harder because they're disproportionately lower income people. elizabeth: so -- >> the plan if has to be what are you going to do to change that. e elizabeth so is it sort of like the election is, again, we're going to tell pollsters one thing but do another in the booth? final word. >> that's exactly what we saw in florida and in georgia. elizabeth: okay. >> that's why it's important to have a real policy, not just feel-good joy, etc. elizabeth: got it. we saw anytime 2016 too. horace keeper, you're terrific. i'm liz macdonald, don't forget to dvr us, now it's let's send it over to jackie and sean and "the box line." jackie: thanks, liz. elizabeth: sure. ♪ ♪