>> after one question about having flip flopped, and she delivered a word salad about how she supports the middle class. >> the polls will say what they will say. mark was right. the question is not who won the debate. it's what matters in swing state voters. >> kamala harris did not answer a single question last night. she didn't talk about her plan because she has no plan. >> she needs another debate with moderators on her side working for her. >> kamala harris lied last night. she lied on so many different fronts and so many different issues and was not held to account. >> at the core issues of what matters to america, i don't

think she made any progress. >> we've got the taliban back in charge in afghanistan. al qaeda reconstituting. we've got pro-hamas protests happening inside new york city so remembering 9/11, it's incredible how far we went backwards. >> something will always be with us. there's always evil in this world, but you know, our foundation has learned that goodness will always triumph over evil. where were you when the world stopped turning, on that september day ♪ stuart: it is 11:00 on the east coast here of the united states. it is wednesday, september 11. that song that we're playing, "where were you when the world stopped turning." alan jackson. it is of course about the terrorist attacks that shook our nation 23 years ago. now let's get to the markets. we had a favorable inflation report but the markets are also weighing harris' performance last night.

it was a good performance, maybe the market didn't like that. dow is off 650 points. nasdaq down 207. show me big tech. at one stage this morning most were in the green. i think that's changed. big tech is now a mixed picture, if any of them are up maybe nvidia. can we get that on the screen? we're working on it. check out the 10-year treasury. we've got that. the yield, okay. all right mark tepper with me this morning. consumer prices up 2.5% in the last 12 months. surely that will be good news for stocks but so why are we down so much? >> overall we're trending in the right direction as it relate to inflation. now the core cpi came in a little hotter-than-expected at 0.3% but still overall it looks like inflation is really last year's story. the year before's story. what's the real story right now is obviously, the labor market softening. when you look at small businesses, those companies that have 49 or fewer employees,

for the last two consecutive months, they cut employees. they were net negative on job growth, so that presents an issue especially when small businesses supply 50% of the private sector jobs, and roughly 50% of our economic growth, so investors are probably looking at this like hey, the 50 basis point cut is probably off the table. 25 seems more likely but as i said last week, stu. i think a 50 basis point cut would actually send the market into turmoil. stuart: really? >> i do. i think it's a signal that the economy is a heck of a lot worse than most people expect right now. stuart: did the markets care about the debate last night? harris looked good. she seemed to come out well i'd say that. the investors don't like that? is it a factor at all? >> it is. because if you actually look at the performance of the underlying stocks, look. as it relates to the broad market, the bull market can remain intact whether kamala or trump win but what you'll see happen is theres going to be certain sectors, certain industries that do well under

either presidency so you look at kamala, clean energy plays are doing very well today. you look at, you know, trump as an example. crypto play, micro strategy, coinbase, down substantially today. djt stock down. so you know, the markets are certainly pricing in a kamala victory right now and the betting odds moved eight points in her direction during the debate last night. stuart: the betting markets in djt is down 14%. politically, that's a bad sign for trump. >> without a doubt. stuart: no question about economics or the market but politically the market is saying watch out for that. >> and for investors if kamala is the victor towards the end of the year you may see a lot of people starting to realize their capital gains, at a lower rate which could cause like a december sell-off. stuart: yes, i know exactly what you mean there. mark, stay there please with me for the hour. lauren is looking at a group of stocks which are winners in a very much down market. maybe winners because of kamala

harris. the solar stocks. lauren: look at these names, up almost 8%, she had a decent, a good performance in the debate and i would call this the kamala trade today. stuart: i'm interested in this one show me viking therapeutics, because i believe they got a weight loss pill is that correct? lauren: it's on par with novo nordisk's pill, all experimental at this point. viking therapeutics reduced weight loss by more than 3% after one month, similar to novo nordisk and jpmorgan initiated at a buy with a price target of $80, so go up 46% from yesterday's close. stuart: well a pill is a very attractive item. lauren: i know. stuart: i see a premier league soccer team on the screen. manchester united down 6%. lauren: they reported a wider loss, lower revenue in the quarter and their fifth straight year of losses. stuart: they aren't doing well recently but that's another story. lauren thank you very much indeed.

now this. before last night's debate, a study by the media research group found 100% of abc's coverage of kamala harris was positive. 93% of trump's coverage was negative. well that was turning out to be an accurate pointer as to how abc's moderators performed last night. you want to handle a debate you have to be fair. forget your own opinions and treat both sides equally. last night abc was not fair. first of all the questions were stacked against trump. there was no mention of defunding the police, student loan forgiveness, electric vehicle mandates, reparations and certainly not mention of transgender operations for illegal migrants in prison. all of those would have been negative for harris. they didn't come up. but january 6, that stood out. that's a negative for trump. the lie about charlottesville came up and that was not challenged by the moderators. when it came to fact checking it was trump who was checked and

harris was never asked why she changed her mind on so many issues. what event made her change her mind on fracking? or banning private health insurance? we're kept in the dark because the moderators didn't follow-up on harris and neither did trump. they didn't press her. they interrupted and fact checked trump. trump is furious. on fox this morning he called abc the most dishonest network. ben domenech with me and i'm pretty sure he's fired up about this. do you think voters noticed the bias last night? >> stuart it's impossible not to notice the bias. i mean it was very well apparent. it was impossible to view this as a debate between kamala harris and donald trump. it was a debate between david muir and lindsay davis and kamala harris and donald trump and i think that was something so blatant that it's going to be used frankly by a lot of republicans i think to spin this as being an excuse for poor performance on the former president's part and

frankly giving kamala a pass onn so many issues you just said but they never asked her about joe biden's capacity to function as president over the coming months which is a critical issue that i think is the most obvious question to ask. they never asked a question about china. they never asked a question about the fact that there is, you know, an american just killed by hamas. they never asked the questions about iranian backed militia targeting american military, you know, figures overseas et cetera, and they never asked a question about inflation, which i think is just criminal. it's something that you can't do as moderators to sort of say we're just going to skew this thing in a way that where we're putting our thumb on the scale in such an obvious way no one can possibly take us seriously and look, i mean, david muir may be one of people's sexiest men of the year of 2014 but that doesn't mean you're someone whose equipped to apparently moderate a presidential debate. i think this is the last presidential debate we're going

to see given to one of these networks that simply doesn't include any republicans when it comes to their analysis, to their debate prep, or even addresses the questions to the candidates that need to be addressed on behalf of the american people. stuart: okay let's put it like this if trump agrees to a second debate, does he need to do a better job of keeping his cool and not letting harris get under his skin? >> i absolutely agree with that, stuart, and i think when i was along with you last week, i said the key for him when it came to this debate was to be focused and to be disciplined, which he's shown the capacity to be. he was in the debate with joe biden, for instance. this time around, i think he let a lot of her attacks get under his skin. he clearly knew that he was having the debate skewed against him in terms of the way the moderators were going after him, and i think that allowing that to happen is always a mistake, because it means that you come across as complaining and flailing as opposed to

really taking the hard arguments to the opponent. when he did do that, he did very well, especially when it came to the economy, i think, but he didn't do that for the whole debate and i think it's something that hurt him. it's more of a missed opportunity than a major error on his part, but i think that, you know, this is a very close race and we've seen it really not change over the last couple of weeks, post her little bump when she was named the nominee and i think that that's going to probably continue. i don't think we're going to see major ramifications but it is a missed opportunity. stuart: got it. ben domenech, thanks for being with us. now let's get another look at the big board. we are keeping a very close eye on this sell-off. look at it go. we're all 30 of the dow stocks are in the red, every one is down and the dow itself is off 610 points, precisely 1.5%. after last nights debate, undecided voters in pennsylvania said, financially, things were better under trump. watch this.

>> when facts come to facts my life was better when trump was in office. the economy was higher, inflation was lower, things were better overall. she's saying she can fix the problems that her administration has caused but i just don't know if i can afford to take that risk. stuart: but was trump able to get his message across? kevin o'leary will be here. he's next. ♪ it's pods biggest sale of the summer. save up to 25% on moving and storage for a limited time. and see why pods has been trusted with over 6 million moves.

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months, inflation softening a little. hillary vaughn on capitol hill. okay i want to know what the politicians are saying about this report. reporter: well, stuart, house democrats today are cheering the latest inflation report. >> food costs are still too high. i'm not going to deny that, but the fact is, inflation with food is going down, and we need to continue that trend. energy prices actually went down. that's great for the american family. it's not great enough yet, but it's the right trajectory and we need to keep on going with this team. reporter: be even though prices did not increase, as much as they have been, they are still way up from where they were before biden and harris took office. house republicans hearing from farmers today, energy industry experts, and economists who point the blame at the biden-harris administration for fueling inflation with their economic and energy policies. >> i do believe that the biden-harris administration from the start of their

administration have implemented fiscal and economic policies and energy policies that have led inflation to skyrocket. >> it's fair to say that increased government spending is a driver of inflation? >> absolutely. reporter: stuart, so while they're talking about this a lot today on capitol hill. you didn't hear a lot about it in the debate last night, and you didn't hear harris have to defend her policies and her government spending. she in fact bragged that she was the tie-breaking vote on the inflation reduction act, which actually increased inflation. stuart? stuart: hillary thank you very much. now this. an undecided voter from pennsylvania weighed in on last night's debate. watch this. >> i think it's important to remember that we are voting for the leader of our country, and not who we like the most. we're in an incredibly unique situation where we've had both of the candidates in office before and we've gotten to see what they do and when facts come to facts, my life was

better when trump was in office. the economy was higher, inflation was lower, things were better overall and now, with kamala's administration, things haven't been so fantastic, and she's saying she can fix the problems that her administration has caused, but i just don't know if i can afford to take that risk. stuart: kevin o'leary joins nows wearing his traditional black suit, why shirt. where's the red tie? you have a red tie normally but you lost it today. you don't want to look like trump. do you think that trump got his message across last night in the debate? >> not during the debate. he got his message across at the end in summary which he should have been doing through the entire debate, tying her policies to the state of the union today, and he really wanted people to understand that they should consider that and he did at the end. he said look, what have you done for the last three and a half years but unfortunately, that was lost for the 90 minutes of the debate, and it was an unusual debate in the sense that it was policy-light.

it's such a short time before the actual election. other debates in history, you'd have a lot more discipline on policy, be getting a lot more detail. not here, and so if you want to talk about harris getting under his skin, she was successful doing that, but it was a policy-light debate overall. stuart: yeah, kevin, listen to what abc's jonathan carl had to say about harris' debate performance. >> kamala harris didn't really explain some of the big questions that were out there about why she changed her policy views on so many things. part of the reason is donald trump really was not effective in bringing in the debate to her. i think that he looked not just angry but also rattled. harris looked like she belonged on the stage, looked like she is somebody that could serve as president. stuart: all right, kevin. she looked like somebody that can serve as president. do you agree with that? >> i'm still a policy wonk, so

i didn't get any policy and all of this doesn't matter except for the swing voters in seven states and so it doesn't matter what i think. it matters as that woman, that clip has been all over the internet this morning, and it's being used in many different ways for both sides, but bottom line is, what do they think and they're not being fed enough information about the things that matter to them, and so this race remains incredibly tight. i think it's jump ball frankly and the polls say that. if there is another debate i would prefer questions about policy, so people could go into this informed about what matters in their lives. there was so much rhetoric in there, and i get it. if you hate trump you hate trump. that's already the case for 43 states. those are decided states. it's the seven that matter and i thought from that perspective, that debate kind of failed. not enough policy. stuart: i want your take on the markets because kevin, we've got a sell-off in progress here. consumer prices cooled a little.

i thought that be positive for stocks. we've got this sea of red ink. what's going on? >> well, it's the pause that refreshes stuart. we've had such a positive market and directionally straight up to the right. it doesn't surprise me to take a five or 10% correction here with the uncertainty of the election definitely being part of the volatility and policy matters too. for example, we didn't learn last night about corporate taxation. we didn't hear about capital gains tax on unrealized gains. these are very important elements to what the market does going forward. it would really hurt capital formation to tax unrealized gains and i hope that doesn't happen, but because there's uncertainty and understanding how far an election would go in terms of giving one side or the other the advantage on capitol hill, we're going to see volatility right to novembe. that's my prediction. stuart: let's have a look at starbucks, the new ceo, brian niccol. he's got a plan to keep customers in stores longer. i'm going to ask ashley about it in just a few moments but i want

to get back to you, kevin. i thought harris showed well last night and the market is responding this morning because harris favors these tax increases on capital gains and income and business taxes. i think that's part of the reason why the market is down this morning. last word to you on this. >> you may be right, but that's exactly why we needed more detail. we need policy. we need to understand, and i never heard anything about her taxation plan. just that she was going to raise taxes. we knew that going into the debate. i'm very disappointed in this election cycle, and maybe she can skate to victory without ever talking to the press. that be a first. that would really be a first, in presidential history. stuart: it be terrible because we don't know what she stands for or where she'll take this country. kevin, thanks for being with us. on an important day always a pleasure thanks a lot. now let's get back to starbucks. yeah, the new chief has a plan to keep customers in the stores for longer.

ashley? come on in. what's the plan? ashley: yeah. well, maybe not stu "varney", but maybe others. starbucks new leader says his priority is to make stores more comfortable for customers and improve the morale of the workforce. brian niccols says the company is making investments in technology that will improve the partner and customer experience, upgrade the supply chain, and expand the app and mobile ordering platform. a key focus is just making sure the drinks and food are made on time. no hanging around forever and stores will be more inviting. the idea of course is to create more comfortable seating, so people will linger longer. at least that's the theory. also create a better distinction between to-go and for-here services. he was ceo at chipotle when he took over the leadership role at starbucks and the coffee chain stock price has been slumping and sales falling. he hopes to turn it around either with or without stu

lingering. stuart: can i just throw my two cents in here? there's too much choice. you know? there's too much choice. it takes the baristas a long time to create different choices so you're waiting online, waiting, waiting. i like to walk in, i want coffee. out. what's wrong with that? lauren: the young girls like the drinks. ashley: go to dunkin'. that will do it. stuart: i'm just getting old. but thank you ashley for your contribution to this discussion. ashley: you're welcome. stuart: we're definitely keeping a close eye on the markets. we do have a sell-off on our hands. dow down 600 points. we're on it. check the big banks which are also taking a beating today. headed by jpmorgan, they are all down two percentage points. energy names, they're down sharply as well. mark tepper still with me. does this look like, all this red ink. does it look like on over-reaction to the debate? >> i think it does when you see banks selling off and energy names selling off those are

typically, those be favorable if trump were to win so that's obviously, you know, a response to the debate last night, but look. when we look at what's going on i actually think the inflation report coming in just slightly higher-than-expected, i think that's actually going to bode well for the fed's rate cut path, and also bode well for the market because look. if they were to cut 50 basis points i see you see the market sell-off. it seems like 25 basis points is where they're going to go, and i think that's going to be a net positive for investors. stuart: got it mark tepper thank you very much, sir. coming up, some big tech companies are cutting back on their business travel. why would they do that? i'll tell you. they want to reduce their carbon footprint. we're going to tell you which ones are cutting their executive travel. the harris campaign says it's ready for another debate. >> listen, the truth is what it is. we want a second debate. we certainly hope that donald trump will do it. >> do it on fox? >> we're entertaining all offers. stuart: is that a second

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this one. as pin arrow gels. >> i briefly mentioned this to you last wednesday off camera, but between then and today we added to our position so this is the only way that we're even remotely close to playing ev's. they have a thermal barrier that they build and it goes around batteries in ev's to prevent battery fires and it makes them more efficient so you get more mileage out of them. that thermal barrier also has other industrial uses as well, so it is not fully dependent on the success of the ev's. this is a company that can do really really really well if ev's actually gain market share but it can do really really well if no one ever wants to drive an ev. stuart: kamala harris did well yesterday. she's very green. that would help the stock like aspen aerogels. at the debate last night kamala harris repeatedly tried to link donald trump to the project 2025. trump has denied any connection to it.

mark meredith joins us. mark, can you fact check harris' claims about trump on that project? >> stu, i sure can. george to you. the vice president as you mentioned repeatedly invoked project 2025 during the debate as the trump campaign and candidate himself denied any involvement so what is project five? well it's a playbook or blueprint written by a conservative activist at the heritage foundation on how a future republican president could govern. well some of its authors did work in the trump white house. it's not the trump campaign putting it out there. despite that as you talked about, harris repeatedly claimed its trump's vision for the future. >> what you're going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected again. reporter: they did a fact check of its own. it said it's false that trump be tied to this and that trump disagrees with elements of the effort.

as harris continues to hammer trump on the blueprint which among many things calls for expanding executive powers, the trump campaign says it's ready to fire back. it's now linking harris to a far left activist group. >> what the media continues to refuse to ask kamala harris is what is her support of cap or the center for american progress? its got 64 people, from that organization, in her administration right now. they are in favor of taxpayer funded reparations, they are in favor of sex change operations without notification from minors. those are the radical policies that the center for american progress supports and that kamala harris is getting advice from. reporter: just this week, fox news pressed the white house on why the vice president continues to invoke project 2025, but it deferred to the campaign. stu? stuart: mark meredith thank you very much, sir. the harris campaign says yeah, they are open to a second debate. >> listen. the truth is what it is. we want a second debate. we certainly hope that donald

trump -- >> you'll do it on fox? >> we're entertaining all offers. stuart: bill hemmer is here with me, in new york city this morning. bill? >> the offers out there. [laughter] stuart: is that a show of strength on her part? >> you know i was looking at the timeline, we were talking about this earlier is that jennifer o'mally dillon, her campaign director, she put the offer out there before the debate began so it's an interesting data point as we moved toker the possibility of whether it happens. stuart: was that the debate you expected, bill? >> i guess that's why they play the games, as they say in the nfl. i was taking notes before this debate on monday and tuesday and i went back over them this morning and three things stuck out at me. i wrote down moment of truth. can he remember her record? i don't think last night he showed he remembered what her record was on a lot of things like fracking going all the way back to 2016 when she was

the a.g. in sacramento. can she put him on defense and make it personal? she sure did. moment of truth. what if trump did not agree to that june debate? that would have been joe biden last night, not kamala harris. so i just think upon reflection here that's what i look at this morning. i wrote down one other thing. stuart: go on, go on. >> how specific will she get and will the moderators press for details? well they do but against him and not her. 5:1. stuart: it's a very interesting question. what would have happened if trump had not agreed to that first debate with biden on june 27? whoa. >> yeah, my thinking is that he wanted to be on the stage. that's why he accepted the debate that hads early. i do believe some and the higher-up the democratic party were thinking in mid-may when they established the rules on may 15 they were thinking if this does not go well we will have time to get someone else. stuart: yup. >> it worked. stuart: do you think the debate last night swayed any voters?

>> great question. i don't think we'll know for two or three days. brett and martha were talking about middle america. how are they looking at this in some of the swing states where there's michigan or wisconsin or maybe voters in minnesota. how did they perceive this debate last night? i would just hold your fire on that and see what the numbers tell us and i think the numbers will also tell us whether or not there will be a second debate. stuart: yeah, i'm waiting for those numbers. bill, thank you very much, sir. >> good to be with you. stuart: you're a busy guy. coming up, a hotel in texas taking over by a venezuelan migrant gang and a small town in ohio flooded with 20,000 haitian migrants. none of these migrants could be sent back. venezuela and haiti won't take them. so what are we going to do with them? sheriff cleveland takes it on. big tech executives going to testify before the senate. they are going to layout their plans to deal with threats to our election. that story is next. ♪

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stuart: the sell-off continues, but we coming off the lows, at one point we were down nearly 700 points for the dow, now we're down 464. the nasdaq is down 62 points. mark tepper with me this morning. do you think this is the start of a more significant and prolonged sell-off? >> i hope not and i don't think so. i mean, look. investors obviously hate uncertainty and there's two bug uncertainties. what is the feds rate cut path going to look like, 25 basis points, 50 basis points, front load it and do it at a more moderate pace? the election is obviously a big unknown. you could have some selling come december where people try to lock in a lower capital gains rate. september is always weak, but when you think about the market rally overall, its been

broadening out. the other 493 names, not part of the mag7 have started to participate, so i think once we clear the uncertainty, the rally can resume. stuart: got it thanks very much indeed, mark tepper. big tech executives, this is next week, they are going to testify in front of the us senate intelligence committee, big tech in front of intelligence committee. what's this all about ashley? ashley: election in interferenc. adobe, microsoft and meta platforms will testify next week at a intelligence committee and at issue is the spread of disinformation and misinformation online surrounding the november 5 election. now, previous us intelligence assessments have said that russia, iran, china, all have tried to meddle in american elections which of course all of the countries denied. the tech executives actually testified before an election interference but lawmakers want to know what steps are being

taken now to combat these election threats. meta's global affairs president nick kleg and microsoft president brad smith are scheduled to appear. stu? stuart: thanks, ashley. today is day three of the google anti-trust trial. grady trimble is ever alexandria covering it for us. any fireworks yet, grady? reporter: well, stu, the justice department called a former google employee to the stand this morning. he's the first former employee to testify in-person and over the past three days, as the doj has been calling witnesses, they are really using those witnesses to try to paint google as this massive player in the online ad sales space, that uses its power to kind of stamp out block other smaller companies from competing thereby leaving publishers, those were websites with few-to-no options other than google and the doj shared this 2018 e-mail exchange between another google employee

and that witness i mentioned who was his boss. so the worker says, i think it's better to cannibalize ourselves than to see others take share from us. so essentially, what that employee seems to be saying to the witness, his boss, in 2018, was that it was better for google to take a revenue hit than to let other competitors gain market share in the online ad space. when other companies found work-arounds to google's ad technology the doj argues google attempted to quash them, but on cross-examination of the former employee, google's attorney showed another internal document. this one from 2015 and what it did is it illustrated that the ad tech space google is accused of having an illegal monopoly of is filled with a whole host of competitors and that it's highly saturated. some of those competitors on your screen including amazon, facebook, apple, aol, verizon and comcast, so what we've seen just about every witness that

the doj has called to try to prove that google is the only game in town, google's attorneys and cross examine that witness and refute it, stu, so on day three of this trial, very hard still to say which way this is going to go. stuart: got it. grady thanks very much indeed. now this. big tech companies say they're going to cut back on business travel. this is all about, tell me. tell me it ain't true. they are going green? lauren: well, yeah, this is big tech companies. that's a priority. they want to cut back on their emissions targets so 26 top tech firms halved their business travel flight emissions last year compared to 2019 before covid, so that four-year span includes covid, when everybody was stuck at home, and zoom, when you maybe stopped sending people out on the road because you could zoom it. they cut back on their travel, but apple and google is not enough according to this report. they say google cut its travel emissions 31% and apple by 23% according to travel smart, which

is a european green company. stuart: i'm done with this. lauren: okay. stuart: thanks very much indeed. check out the dow 30. we're going to get a sense of the market. i use it everyday. i've got to change the script on this. i see 27 of the dow 30 in the red, a mere three in the green. the dow is now cut its losses to 429 points. we had been down almost 700. trump went after harris on the border last night. he said she and biden could close the border instantly if they wanted to. harris couldn't give an answer. sheriff thadius cleveland is fired up about this and the sheriff is next.

the moment i met him i knew he was my soulmate. "soulmates." soulmate! [giggles] why do you need me? [laughs sarcastically] but then we switched to t-mobile 5g home internet. and now his attention is spent elsewhere. but i'm thinking of her the whole time. that's so much worse. why is that thing in bed with you? this is where it gets the best signal from the cell tower! i've tried everywhere else in the house!

there's always a new excuse. well if we got xfinity you wouldn't have to mess around with the connection. therapy's tough, huh? -mmm. it's like a lot about me. [laughs] a home router should never be a home wrecker. oo this is a good book title. stuart: all right back to the debate. kamala harris blamed trump for the issues at the border. peter doocy at the white house. all right peter how did trump respond to that? reporter: it was an interesting dynamic there, stuart, because vice president harris was asked by the moderators why does the administration waited three-years to get tough with executive actions at the border but they never pressed her to answer that and instead, she

redirected to this. >> so i'm the only person on this stage would has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations, for the trafficking of guns, drugs, and human beings. donald trump got on the phone, called up some folks in congress, and said kill the bill and you know why? because he preferred a run on a problem instead of fixing a problem. reporter: donald trump's border focus was more on safety issues, he sees. >> they are taking over the town. they are taking over buildings. they're going in violently. these are the people that hadsxi and biden let into our country, and they are destroying our country. they are dangerous, they are at the highest level of criminality. reporter: this morning that part was disputed by the department of homeland security secretary. >> it's not permissible for me to respond to a candidate's

statements, and i'm prevented from doing so. >> when you have a charge that illegal immigration and migrant crime is one of the greatest threats to the country today you say what? >> that is false. reporter: trump's first post-debate campaign event is going to be in a border state. arizona, tomorrow. stu? stuart: interesting. peter doocy, thank you very much indeed. trump called on harris to sign a bill to close the border immediately. roll it. >> why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border. how come she's not doing anything? go down to washington d.c. and let her sign a bill to close up the border because they have the right to do it. they don't need bills. they have the right to do it. the president of the united states, you'll get him out of bed, you'll wake him up at 4:00 in the afternoon and say come on down to the office and let's sign a bill. if he signs a bill, that the border is closed, all he has to do is say it to the border patrol who are phenomenal. if they do that the border is closed. stuart: the sheriff there is

thadius cleveland and he joins me now. harris didn't have an answer for the border. that was deliberate wasn't it? >> hi, stuart good to be back with you and yes, 100% and deliberate because she doesn't have the knowledge of the border and i must say, what president trump stated about them, meaning the biden-harris administration, having the ability to enforce the border, with the whip of a pen, putting action on the border is 100% correct. stuart: yes, i mean, he could just, the president can do that, immediately. he didn't need an act of congress. he don't need a lawyer or legislation. he could do that. he could control the border, but she doesn't want to know about it. okay, i'll move on. we've got two stories here. in el paso, venezuelan gang members took over a hotel. in springfield, ohio, a town with 58,000 residents, it now has to deal with an influx of 20,000 haitian migrants. sheriff? we can't send these migrants back because venezuela and haiti do not accept them. so how do we handle this?

>> we have to lock them up. we have to keep them incarcerated. if that means building the infrastructure to hold more and more people that have crossed the borders illegally that's what we need to do and it's a shame that many states, many municipalities in these sanctuary areas are refusing to enforce the law. they would rather enforce politics or play politics than enforcing the law and stuart if i can go back to that previous question real quick. the only talking point the left has about president trump is the senate bill, and i've said it before. i spent 26 years with the border patrol. hr-2 which was a house bill passed in the house dealt with border security. the senate bill dealt with immigration. border security and immigration, two separate issues. we must secure our border. then we can deal with that immigration stuff. stuart: harris said last night that trump had rejected the idea of hiring more border guards. that's not accurate? >> completely untrue.

look under the trump administration, we hired border patrol agents. under those prior four administrations we hired border patrol agents. we're still hiring border patrol agents but he had such a loss through attrition of border patrol agents. those who likely to keep working but due to the conditions at the border and conditions within the border patrol, because of alejandro mayorkas, people have decided to pull the plug. look, i retired at 48. i intended to work until i was 57 years old. my community had a need here in the county sheriff's office so i retired to take over and i'm still fighting the border battle. stuart: sheriff thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate you. >> thank you stuart god bless you. stuart: it's the wednesday trivia question. who was the first american in space? alan shepherd, john glenn, malcolm carpenter? the answer when we come back and i into this one. i guarantee i know this one.

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ashley: not to doubt you but just to be different, john glenn. lauren: i don't know what to do because you said it in the break so definitively. alan shepard. stuart: what have you got? >> i picked alan shepard before you. stuart: thank you. i am correct. it is alan shepard. he was a navy test pilot. on the astronaut test program in 1959, pilot a mercury spacecraft, freedom 7, on a 15 minute, 300 mile journey into space. he was the second person ever in space. who was the first? don't you know? it was yuri gagarin who was subsequently killed in a car crash. >> i remember alan shepard on apollo