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space, who did what, and today these guys, really? i don't know what happened. a great job. so many trivia things. you are the best. the dow is in and out of records. what we are noticing for the time being, there's a lot of people looking forward to the fed meeting, earlier on there's been talk we would see 1/4 point, seems to be randomly built into most people's expectations but now they are changing that point of view and talking about the likelihood, we are waiting for donald trump in california who will outline some things at a presser.

he might elaborate, including this one where he wants to make sure you will not be taxed on any of your social security gains or for that matter any of your overtime, more than 40 miles a week there will not be surtax is on overtime. aishah hasnie is in california to give us a better idea, what we will hear from the former president later on. >> he makes a lot of news, takes a lot of questions, multiple questions from the same reporter, we expect him to make some news today, remarks have been pushed back some, they are supposed to start now but awaiting the president to take the podium behind me. the timing of this news conference is interesting sandwiched in between two fundraisers important to the former president because he is

lagging behind kamala harris in campaign cash, and has been getting not great postdebate headlines. and she is trying to create news, and look at the truth social post. he made clear he is not going to do another debate. and there will be no third debate. and focused on raising money, harris got a huge bump in donation. raised as much in august, one hundred million behind in cash on hand. trump reportedly attended a

$250,000 per person fundraisers. this is interesting, california's first lady jennifer newsome, then back to battleground states with a rally in nevada. team trump was suing that state accusing election officials of not removing noncitizens from their voting roles. it could impact early voting but trump made news yesterday at his rally in arizona. it's grabbing the attention of his opponents. listen to what he said. >> as part of our additional tax cuts we will end all taxes on overtime. police officers, nurses, factory workers, truck drivers and machine operators. time for the working man and woman to finally catch a break.

>> arizona and nevada important to the former president but also down ballot races. republican candidates short on cash, and to raise money for himself. and down to those down ballot races. >> how you stay focused and composed. if it were me, and you can't say that. great job. that takes a lot of focus. kevin brady. and the tax cuts will be expiring next year.

without him, it would simply not have happened. former texas congressman house ways and means committee chief looks like something out of a norman rockwell. the president is going to expound a little bit on additional tax cuts he wants to see, there's a battle going back and forth, who can give more tax cuts, looking at ending taxes on overtime, no tax on that, no tax on tips, >> just like the tax cuts, this will be politically popular.

he runs a construction crew, work on believable hours, the first question to me is why attacks over time? they've tax the first 40 hours a week so this can appeal to a certain group of workers. the first priority is tax cuts on workers, a $4 trillion hit on all sorts of workers including blue-collar workers, that is a big challenge for him, he's got to figure out how do we manage all of these ideas, the end of the year next year, huge challenge. harris: love tax cuts as much as the next guy, when you came up with tax cuts, allowances you had to do to pay for including putting a limit on

mortgage tax deductions, everything has to be paid for. the race between the two parties to say the hell with paying for anything and i wonder if that worries you. >> it does. we have $5 trillion of tax cuts. we paid for 4 trillion of it and enhanced revenue growth for the rest. nonetheless, i can -- they are going to want to see that tax package if not revenue neutral, close to it. taking in the new revenue you get from a stronger economy. both parties, for different reasons, democrats want to see tax hikes, republicans want to see cuts in growth.

they are going to lay in a more fiscally responsible position than some think. neil: first chance i had to talk to you since the debate with kamala harris. he doesn't want another debate. republicans say that is a mistake. some democrats saying it is two debates, one with president biden as one with kamala harris, you just articulated the things that can come up to the former president's benefit to expound on. another debate would provide that opportunity, that was lost on him in the last debate. you think he has punted on an opportunity where he could refocus on this? >> my gut is the yes because the policies that he is cheapening which is the stronger economy he delivered. other people want immigration

and crime -- huge lead in those areas. i wanted to see that delivered in the d debate. if he finds another way to deliver it, it has the same impact, you can get 14 million people watching you, you have a record and the other opponent has a record that's very vulnerable, i would take every opportunity i could get. neil: be well, be safe. kevin brady, former chairman of the house ways and means committee. without that young man, we would not have had the tax cuts we did. following historic development of another sort, the first strike at boeing get we've seen since i believe 2008 and this is a biggie. what is the latest? >> reporter: a bad year for boeing just got significantly

worse as their machinists rejected a contract that union leadership this past weekend agreed to and urged members to vote yes on, the machinist decided not to go that way and voted 95% to eject the contract, 96% to begin a strike at midnight last night. we saw this result coming yesterday in one of the voting spots where every worker we spoke with said they want more. >> we haven't had a significant wage increase in years. i work with tons of people having a hard time doing rent versus even buying a house and boeing used to be the golden egg. >> the price to build the best plan in the world, what's the point of doing anything here. >> workers rejected a 25% pay raise over four years, $3000 ratification, and increased to

their 401(k) plan, more job security with guarantees that the next new airplane would be built in puget sound, boeing already in crisis, production way down due to a door plug blowout that prompted federal investigations and congressional hearings, sales down 15%. boeing lost $2.2 billion and the credit rating above junk-bond status. and told workers, quote, it is no secret our business is in a difficult period in part due to our own mistakes, working get together i know we can get back on track but a strike would put a shared recovery in jeopardy eroding trust of customers and hurting our ability to determine future together in the last machinist strike was in 2,008, it lasted almost two

months, cost boeing one hundred billion dollars a day and these workers out here seem to think this could last that long as well. they tried to capitalize on moments the unions had in 2023 with a number of successful strikes including the uaw. the contract they just rejected, the pay increase is what uaw workers agreed to on this strike. neil: you will be updating us. great market reads. what if it drags on? >> for boeing, a continuation of murphy's law, it turns into tragedy like 1819, almost

tragedy, luckily the door came off at a lower altitude and whistleblowers talking about serious production problems and now this not to messaging the bad messaging, if it goes on strike, a bad day for boeing but since 2019, going to $160 taking 1950 dow points off the dow. this is not only what it looks like as a company but financial and nothing good happens if it ends being a strike because the business is big for the economy. neil: would you have boeing right now? >> it's not an investable

stock, you are down prior to the strike news. and so did the s&p down 32%, we have a rising tide, don't know if boeing is one of those ships being lifted, the fact that boeing is down 2.4%, eisenstadt bad how cataclysmic a strike could be for their business. not only then but spirit aerospace doing well today could be affected. an opportunity for boeing, questioning the timing but i don't question their desire to keep up with inflation. last time they negotiated a contract it was 40% lower than it is now. since the last time they got a

raise. relative to the average american worker, interesting timing. neil: we want to mention the markets, the dow in and out of record territory, a place on a 5-day winning streak, a lot of talk when the fed meets, 1/4 point cut. 50% or more, where are you when it is necessary? >> they telegraphed 1/2 point. that helped the market. 10:00 wednesday morning i would say the market, 1500 points with economically sensitive names and waning big time,

turning up to all-time highs, i would be surprised if it is only 1/4 point, the market is hit down a little bit if it it is 1/4 point. my bet is 1/2. neil: what do you think of that? >> it will be 25, the only reason i say that is the fed is very cautious about signaling to the market, they are likely to signal future rate cuts. there's 250 basis rate cuts through september 2025 and a total of 250 basis points in cuts. for some people like myself, that signals worse economic times at least in the opinion of interest rate market. things are going slowly but keep going. that would reassure the market. neil: we shall see.

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neil: your tired of hearing this, we try to be fair and balanced, we've got a democrat, a republican. my views are unimportant. not to say i am unimportant but that is where we are and we gave you an outline of donald trump and what he promises to make and will make remarks in california. we are keeping an eye on kamala harris and her campaign. that is where you will find brian yannis. >> reporter: kamala harris

making two stops in pennsylvania, 7 of the last 8 days she spent in the commonwealth, she's visited this battleground 14 times this year, more than any other battleground state. she is continuing to try to build off of that post debate momentum. yesterday she had some rallies in north carolina, 25,000 people at those two arenas and she challenged donald trump to another debate and he said he's not doing it. >> i believe we owe it to the voters to have another debate. >> losing two debates. because they were successful there will be no third debate. it's too late anyway, the voting has already begun. >> reporter: despite trump's claims he won the debate the harris campaign is very bullish on her performance. they have cut three new ads

featuring moments from the debate including on abortion, optimistic leadership and uniting americans. harris and tim walz are openly mocking donald trump's debate performance. >> you remember. he has, quote, concepts of a plan. concepts of a plan. which means no actual plan. >> tell me you have this on your bingo card and they are eating cats. >> reporter: the latest polls show the economy is the number one issue in pennsylvania and voters trust trump more than harris on the economy 50% to 42%. the latest congressional republicans joint economic

committee report shows consumer prices in goods and services are up 19% in pennsylvania under the biden/harris administration. this means pennsylvanians are spending $984 more a month on food, energy, transportation, and housing. harris is making those two stops, one in johnstown, cambria county, pennsylvania and the other in wilkes-barre. both counties trump won by double digits in 2020, the harris campaign thinks they are going to win pennsylvania which is a tight race they are going to have to make sure his margins are less in these red parts of the state. neil: we will follow it closely. congressman, good to see you. we won't have an additional debate. any impact? >> it underscores how scared

donald trump is of kamala harris. you put this pretty well actually. she was in command, he was out of control. she demonstrated for those americans who are still learning who she is that she is president on day one, big spirit and big intellect. now i think the job is to flesh out those economic policies that give people confidence that she can be a good steward of a growing economy particularly in housing, healthcare and energy. neil: she ate his lunch there. i am wondering, we always debate debates and how important they are. maybe the exception of john f. kennedy in the first debate with richard nixon, that did move the needle and did change americans views of a young massachusetts senator taking on a seasoned vice president.

i wonder in the debates since, they had their moments to be fair, they do move the needle. some of these polls that are coming out it doesn't appear -- if you are undecided you are still undecided. what do you make of that and the importance of debates in general? >> point taken that the election is in november, not september. these debates tend to be overindexed in the short-term and some of the bumps get digested down again. let me tell you why i think this is a little different. kamala harris is, relative to most nominees going into a final general election sprint, underknown. she was not the candidate the last 12 months. i think it matters that americans watched her walk onto that stage and present herself as someone who was ready to be commander-in-chief on day one, someone who keeps her cool

while the other guy spins down into a meltdown mode. that matters. the harris campaign would be the first to tell you this is going to be narrowly contested and americans want to hear policies. i don't subscribe to the idea that policies don't matter. i reject that. americans are hungry for policy detail and i think how we build more housing to lower housing costs, how we are going to take on special interests and healthcare, lower drug prices, how to unlock all of the above energy policy and lower energy costs, this matters and americans want to hear it. . 20 i think you are right about that. sorry for the truncated time. we are hearing from boeing's cfo the company must be aware of its cash position. the striking union workers, very generous, 25% increase over the next four years. not saying he is hinting of that is it but the company is

going to do its best with those workers on strike potentially could be dragging on a while. we will get the read from this from a former donald trump secretary. more interesting are his comments he was making about the aforementioned debate. his boss didn't hear him or take him up on it. wilbur ross is next. without over or under investing. across all your benefits and savings options. so you can feel confident in your financial choices. they really know how to put two and two together. voya, well planned, well invested, well protected.

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over the wisdom of nixing a debate with kamala harris. how do you feel about that, that he's not going to debate her again? >> debates are about style than substance, when the moderators in the debate are very one sided against trump and for harris. you see that in the way they fact checked everything. and not about style but about substance. the substances we had low-inflation, we had low unemployment when he was president and relative peace throughout the world. neil: you are very prescient,

no histrionics or drama. i caught a radio interview. ahead of that debate, the only dangerous trump being big and strong, he has to be careful not to be like that. she baited him. that created the piling on. the almost as if you have seen that coming. >> it was a closure move on her part but this is not auditioning to play the role of president, this is auditioning to be the president. she has no record of achievement, she doesn't have detailed plans except spend a lot more and raise taxes on people. neil: we don't want to belabor, it's done and over but he

missed a clear opportunity and an aspect of him, kamala harris and former administration officials, there are many more who dispute what they are doing and saying, that he is thin-skinned and hotheaded and a danger. what do you make of that? >> unfortunate, i wish it had not occurred but i don't think it is the end of the earth. americans know what the regime was like when trump was president. they know they were relatively better off under trump than they have been since. a lot of playacting and a lot of baiting is a nice debating tactic, but substance is what's going to count for the american public over the next four years.

i didn't see what she came up with that was substantive. neil: let me get your take where things stand now. the former president will outline additional tax cuts he wants to see. he's on record about security benefits, telling overtime workers they shouldn't be taxed. those who rely on tapping, no tax on tips, how do we pay for all of this? >> the only way to get the deficit down is to grow rapidly. if this economy can be made to grow at something like 4% or so, the deficits will go down. everything will be better off. the problem with what the democrats are doing, nothing will stimulate the economy. under trump the economy was

very good, and there are only 3 things, the components of growth, when is the change in the amount of people and working age population. labor force participation is going nowhere under these people. the third thing is productivity and all the spending they are doing has nothing to do with productivity. i don't see how they can grow their economy enough, and to

increase workforce participation and trump was doing that. we were accomplishing it. right now over 1/3 of able-bodied, working age americans, or once one. that's not how you build a country. >> the wharton study the is done. and it is a little under 1.5 trillion. neither candidate seems to be very worried about it. does that bother you. >> he understands the way to get the economy to live with debt burden is rapid growth. that is what he is aiming toward her programs, taxing

successful people, is not the way to stimulate. there is no more regulation and when we were in office, and there were grateful for regulatory reform. the tax cuts donald trump, neil: the regulatory relief, could i get your impression, targeting in on billionaires like your self, your a rags to riches, the book lays that out nicely. the kamala harris campaign trumpeting this, the rich are not paying their fair share and

seems to register, boosting support. does that concern you? >> the way communists masquerade as socialists felt they could be permanently in powers two things, get to where more than half the population doesn't pay tax, we are just about there now and the other parties get to where more than half the population depends on government for their income. that is where this group is heading. that doesn't add to productivity, doesn't make the economy grow, doesn't do anything. it locks them into political power. the intellectual flaw in their program. neil: wilbur roskam honor talking to you. the book is risk and returns, creating success in life.

wilbur looks at himself warts and all, the problems -- i would never do that. every step of the way. this guy is like moses. really is a great book. if i want to know the back story of the most successful business in this country, read the book. great seeing you again. >> thanks for having me on. when we come back, the fallout on the race to where it stands now, what donald trump might be saying in the next few minutes. take a listen. your memory is an amazing thing,

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people are bummed beyond belief when along comes consumer sentiment that comes out today that shows not all consumers are. edward lawrence follows this better than i. edward. >> a surprise rise in consumer sentiment. the expectation for inflation is to the lowest level since december 2020, the rise in prices coming down, not the actual price of things going down. this number comes into play. americans have a record amount $5.1 trillion in debt, huge number, half of this is considered good debt, mortgage on your house. the other parties credit card debt. that debt being serviced at an average of 28% according to forbes as americans deal with higher prices and spend more than they take in. so does the federal government.

increasing taxes for spending from president biden and vice president harris so i asked this. >> what's the plan for the debt? >> got to step back here for second. the last administration increased the debt by $8 trillion. every question you ask me is something we are trying to fix and republicans get in the way of. every question you asked me. >> deficit spending is still deficit spending. >> i am telling you what the president has done. $1 trillion is not a small number in signing legislation to deal with the deficit. >> reporter: the federal debt keeps rising $34 trillion, a new record as americans are holding a record amount of debt. neil: i'm surprised because your great questioner and inquisitor that your white house pass still works.

is it like you keep getting a new one every day? >> sometimes i am randomly selected. neil: just got out of the witness protection program. great job as always. really is the best. another guy who puts everything in perspective, gary kaltbaum. the administration is saying the trend is our friend, consumer sentiment numbers show despite what donald trump is saying we are not going to hell in a hand basket. that's what this comes down to. are we getting into a worse pickle here or not? how do you think that debate is going? >> every point will count and every job will count. it for the economy holds down, that will be trouble for the incumbent, the economy gets in

bad shape. definite softening of the job market but nothing untoward, nothing untoward with the economy though there are little pins here and there when you hear from amazon and walmart, 1.2 trillion in sales. with $4 meals and 0% financing, and they do that because they have to. neil: you touched on earlier in the show but didn't get a chance on the fed and what it does next week and if it's just 1/4 point cut, increasingly hoping it's 1/2 point so say it's 1/4 point cut. do they get annoyed? will they have a tantrum and sell off? >> the betting odds are on 1/2

point, some sort of selloff. everyone has to remember whether it's a quarterdeck or half it is not going to affect their job or the economy. let me tell you what affected the economy. the 10 year yield is dropping down to 6.4%. a huge drop. oil prices from the mid 80s to under 70. that is is a 1-numtwo punch of a tailwind for the economy. cost of capital coming down and energy and petroleum products out there, that is providing of a tailwind for the market but the size of government was doing the trick also and the month of august, good people of this country sent the federal government $308 billion. they spend $688 billion, $70 billion deficit for one month and i gather that helps the gdp

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