2023 40% of the russel 2000 wasn't profitable so this is where deep research is important in thinking about which sectors you want to lean into. equity sectors, we are more defensive. we've been of the view economic data is likely to slow down meaning leaning more into healthcare, away from utilities and materials. liz: by the way speaking of data the pce for the month of september, for august, rather, comes out next week, so roosevelt we've got a lot of data on inflation, we'll see how that comes in. great to have you. we appreciate it. fireworks on this friday, it is the dow's 29th record close so far this year. >> [closing bell ringing] liz: s&p and nasdaq down for the second day for the last three but up for the week. what a week its been with the federal reserve finally cutting rates for the first time in about four years, so much more next week. larry: hello folks welcome to

kudlow i'm larry kudlow. breaking news on secret service briefings and new house legislation for presidential protection, let's go straight to fox news david spunt at the department of justice. david, a lot happenings going on here what's cooking? reporter: yeah, hey, larry, good afternoon. a lot happening the acting secret service director took questions for about almost an hour from reporters, and he released in the internal report a summary of internal report that gave some highlights. it's kind of a looking in the mirror report of what the secret service did wrong leading up to and on july 13 and he said that there will be people that will be punished. watch. >> these employees will be held accountable and this agency has the most robust table of penalties in the federal government. these penalties will be administered according to our disciplinary process. due to federal regulations, i

can not get into personnel matters as they are proceeding. reporter: but larry last month five secret service employees were placed on administrative desk duty following the july 13 shooting in butler, pennsylvania. the service is working on this report for a couple of months . it's almost complete. the summary was released and here is a highlight that says a consistent theme gathered from state and local law enforcement personnel who helped secure the butler rally was the presence of communications deficiencies. the building where the 20-year-old shooter took his shots, not in the secure perimeter, apparently also was not on the minds of certain secret service personnel that critical day, the report summary continues. there was a lack of detailed knowledge by secret service personnel, regarding the state or local law enforcement presence that be present in and around the agr complex. you mentioned legislation, today the house of representatives voted 400-0. all those present in the chamber uunanimously voted to give

presidential candidates the same protection as a sitting president. you don't see a lot of unanimous votes. donald trump and kamala harris have been getting the same secret service protection when it comes to physical human assets as joe biden since july 13 but members of law enforcement, they want to turn this into a law to make sure the secret service sticks with that commitment 10, 15, 20 years down the road. larry: you know, david, i guess let me -- i don't understand that. that last part, okay? i know that's what the secret service is saying, but the sheriff of palm beach county with respect to the trump golf course problem said that they did not have, that the president, i'm sorry, the former president trump did not have the blanket secret

service coverage. i mean, we all know they didn't have the outside perimeter and they didn't have the other resources on the inside perimeter. that sheriff just came right out and said it and secret service is not telling the truth with respect to july 13 announcement. reporter: no, two things about that and i'm glad you brought that up because the sheriff bradshaw i believe his name is in palm beach did say that and apparently, a day later he went back to correct that statement. however, you're right though about there was no secret service sweep of the golf course in west palm beach, so it was an off the record movement. the secret service didn't even know and the director admitted over the weekend on sunday there was no pre-sweep and this guy was in the bushes for , you know, 12 hours his cell phone data shows. larry: they weren't covering the outside perimeter either. i don't mean to quarrel with you. >> not at all. larry: your reporting is always superb and we are most

grateful. >> of course. happy to talk. liz: david spunt appreciate it very very much. all right folks i will say, donald trump still has no clear absolute presidential level protection and that is the subject of the rif. i asked will someone please explain to me, in very plain english, whether or not donald trump, after two assassination attempts, now has presidential level protection on the campaign trail? please. no bureaucrats. does he have it? or does he not have it? following the butler, pennsylvania assassination attempt, the secret service apparently told some house members as our mr. trump just, as our mr. spunt just talked about, he talked about they had presidential-type protection but then came the attempted assassination at the trump florida golf course where there was clearly no outside perimeter protection and

insufficient resources on the golf course itself and here is what the palm beach county sheriff said. take a listen. >> he's not the sitting president. if he was, we would have had this golf course surrounded but because he's not the security is limited to the areas that the secret service deems possible. larry: i'll just say i'm not the expert here. i'm not the security expert, but all the reports, there was no parent trolling of the outside perimeter of that golf course. anyway, to me, clearly, the secret service was telling an untruth to house members way back on july 13. now, at that point last sunday, there was no presidential level of protection on the golf course. now, this tuesday evening, this past tuesday afternoon, at a politico event, dhs secretary mayorkas issued an incredible word salad that frankly seems to dodge any clarity on this subject at all. and i'll just go through it.

the secret service "has indeed enhanced the former president's security posture so that he is receiving a level of security commensurate with the fact that he's a former president and on the campaign trail" and so his alignment with the security posture of our president is in fact quite approximate. how can you in fact quite approximate? you're either in or you're out. i don't see any clarity here. what is he talking about? and by the way, why hasn't mayorkas made any official appearances at all? the guy is nowhere to be found, whether it's secret service protection or the catastrophe at the us southern border or anything. where is mayorkas. now for clarity we have to look to this bipartisan house bill that did pass today 405-0 and i'll quote. "imposes uniform standards

for the security of presidents, vice presidents, and major white house candidate." okay, there you have it. there's no commensurate, there's no approximate. it's very clear. now undoubtedly this house bill will pass the senate and that will then mandate presidential-type protection for mr. trump. former dhs secretary chad wolf in an interview on this show a couple of days ago, also talked about something called threat-based resource model. now here is chad. take a listen to what he said. >> this needs to be threat-based. president trump definitely has a different threat picture than vice president harris so the resources need to be allocated as such. larry: so that's very interesting point of view, to be pursued elsewhere. but so far, i'm just saying, so far, neither president biden,

nor dhs secretary mayorkas has seemingly given any clear orders. that's all i'm saying. now, mr. trump himself, has been very very gracious about the secret service and about the local law enforcement, especially after this golf course assassination attempt. take a listen to what he said wednesday, out in long island, new york. >> this evil be assassin got within a few hundred yards of where i stood but thankfully our outstanding secret service agents and they are outstanding. i want to express my thanks to the us secret service and to all of the sheriffs and law enforcement down in florida, the heros who helped to apprehend the attacker. larry: all right, very very very gracious. but all this begs the question whether even blanket presidential levels secret service protection has the high-value that we all hope

it does. at a press conference today, acting director talked about communication deficiencies at the butler, pennsylvania that was between the secret service and the local law enforcement. he said the service was to blame, because their preparation for that rally was a failure. they had not given adequate guidance for the local authorities, and then he kind of went on with word salad stuff. word salad about how the agency is now moving into "the accountability phase" and i don't know what that means. the accountability phase? row's entire press erin fact seemed like a word salad. he used words like "paradigm shift" or needed shift and operations or principles of secret service methodologies but frankly from the recent experience, we've had very poor

principles and failed methodology and he talked about disciplining certain agents and various internal review processes but as i've suggested many times before, neither the secret service nor the fbi can be counted on for anything remotely like a true review of what has been going wrong with the service and for that matter, the fbi and this is my view, for that matter, the intelligence agencies including the cia. i believe there's left wing bias and all these agencies including dei hiring policies and practices, i think that this whole story is a rats nest and the washington d.c. swamp and it needs to be completely cleared out and cleaned out. look, this should not be a partisan issue. it should not. democratic presidential candidates should be just as grateful for significant changes in their protection

as much as republican candidates, but meanwhile, as washington dithers, there are still 46 days left in the current presidential campaign, and heaven help us, if those days aren't completely safe and that's the rif this evening. okay, joining us now an expert wisconsin senator ron johnson who was on homeland security and i believe the chair or now the ranking republican some such, senator johnson as always, sir, welcome to the show. i moon, boy. it's so frustrating. imagine how you must feel. at one point, all i'm going to say is i don't, you know, accountability is a very important management tool. okay? and this guy rowe, the agenting head of the secret service talked about accountability and penalty and discipline at least in general terms.

i don't have any confidence that the heads of these big agencies, secret service, fbi, cia, you name it i've not seen any accountability for them in years. i've not seen any discipline. i've not seen anything from them except bias. that's what i've seen from them, and that's what troubles me, senator johnson. not just for the health and safety of former boss donald trump but for anybody running from high office, anybody. that's what troubles me. accountability? really? help me out on this , sir. >> well, we did hold former director cheatle accountable, she's gone, but no this is generally, they are very good at bureaucratic gobbly gook. they know the right things to say but we had acting director rowe come into the senate to give us a briefing and this is how they slow-walk. they come up to give us a briefing and virtually tell us nothing. what i gleaned out of that briefing was that everybody was responsible, which means nobody is responsible, which means nobody can be held accountable. that's the problem. so you know, certainly what

the trump campaign i'd say every campaign ought to do is they ought to hire a security expert that overseas all this so that that person is responsible. again, i'm not a fan of the federal government. i'm not sure there's ever going to be a bureaucracy that you can hold accountable. i'll tell you even democrat chairman of our committee, we've got a four office bipartisan investigation going on. they are at their witts end losing their patience because of the lack of transparency, the slow-walking, the obstruction of our investigation. larry: whose the democratic head of the committee on this? >> so it's right now senator gary peters from michigan, and then i'm ranking member of the subcommittee investigation that's senator richard blumenthal from connecticut so those are the two chairman. they have subpoena power, they are starting to talk about it. we're going to be issuing a preliminary report this coming week. again a lot of us is confirming what you basically already know,

just all of the failures you would just assume that director rowe is talking about. i think there will be some interesting points that we'll probably raise additional questions though. larry: well okay, if he wants to be, he can be very constructive on this. the other thing is, senator johnson, look. the whole business about presidential protection right now, right now, mr. trump's on the campaign trail, as you know back on the campaign trail. he was in michigan. he was in uniondale, long island, going to be on the campaign trail. i will say kamala harris not so much, but she will be on the campaign trail. now, i just don't understand this. mayorkas says trump now receiving approximate level of security as biden, and the more i read about these reports from what mayorkas said at the politico, mayorkas won't face any official hearings or have a press conference at least rowe had a press conference. it just sounds like word salad

to me. thats all i'm saying. i have no assurances that at least intellectually i don't have any assurance or seen any clearly and like yourself i've been working in government in and out for many years. i don't see the assurances that something has really changed. they may have put more agents on the beat but is it enough? are there enough resources? as our chad wolf said the other day, do they understand the need for threat-based resource allocation? that kind of thing. i don't know. what do you think? do you think that trump has full presidential protection now? >> who knows, they won't tell us that but it's a management problem. it's not a resource problem. over the last 10 years their budget increased 65% from 2 billion to 3.3 billion. the headcount has gone up 32% from 6,300 people to 8,300 and by the way their housing and agency dhs, whose budget is $190 billion, 240,000 personnel,

that's their headcount. they have people that they do transfer them into the secret service when you have these security surges, so again it's not a matter of resources. i don't want congress to be passing more because it's always the solution right? more money. got a problem? more money. it's a management problem. larry: those were staggering numbers. just went through the secret service numbers againment how much is their budget gone up? >> from 2 trillion, from 2 billion to 3.3 billion, so that's 65%. they protect 36 people. larry. 36. and you only have a couple that need the presidential level so they have plenty of people, plenty of resources and dhs, is a management problem. larry: many people have said with respect to the personnel, of the service, that unfortunately, affirmative action and dei and woke hiring practices have entered it, just as they have entered a lot of our security areas including

the military in recent years. do you find that to be true in your investigations? >> i think that was probably cheatle's primary mission was dei, and that reflects the management level. i agree with president trump. the agents on the ground first class. the one guy obviously president trump's life throw their bodies in front of him so it's not the agents on the ground. it's their management and that is probably eroded by dei, like our diluted. it's a travesty. larry: all right, well i have to leave it there senator ron johnson, thank you, sir we appreciate your time. very very much on this , good luck on your investigations. all right folks we will change gear now. question is did fed chairman jay powell just spike the punch bowl with his 50 basis points super-cut which i still believe gave kamala harris a nice little election present but we'll ask former federal reserve governor and all around smart fellow

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week, larry. larry: you're honorary, just all around smart guy. so talking about all around smart people, larry lindsay, i think you would agree with me, hardly anyone on the planet smarter than larry lindsay, he asks, is jay powell speaking spg the punch bowl and i just want to add to that the only descent came from mickey bowman, who was a republican, actually a trump-appointee, and she just said that she felt that declaring victory on inflation is premature. that was part of her descent. the rest of it i leave up to you. kevin warsh. i thought it was a courageous by governor bowman, and i applaud her for it. never easy when the whole room is racing towards a big important decision, it's courageous i give her credit. i think they spiked the punch bowl and also spiked a football. somehow after letting inflation get out of control, inflation get to 9%, as we're finally

making some real progress towards inflation, prematurely, they are saying mission accomplished. we've got inflation licked so in some sense, the choice they're making is they are taking some risk that inflation comes back, which would do huge harm to hard working americans and what's the benefit? to goose the stock market when it's already at its career highs? i think it's a bad trade-off and if there was a single lesson they should have learned from the last four or five years, is they should be suspect of their own convictions and their own forecasts and yet they are now acting without the kind of humility they should. larry: humility, they could have done a quarter, they said half. half point changes as you know, i'm just repeating this for our views. you wrote the books on this , but half point changes one way or the other, are usually left for emergencies like a covid for example, or 9/11 for example. they could have waited until the day after the election would have had the same economic impact.

i mean, six weeks before the election, one-day after the election. so, i thought, kevin, there were political overtone. now i have written myself this was a fed gift to kamala harris or election gift, but if they had been more modest and humble as you just put it, and done 25 basis points, fine. i don't think anybody, inflation has come down so forth, yes, yes, okay. on the other hand doing 50 was like shock therapy and it just seemed it had political overtones. >> i want to avoid motives but i will say the decision was a puzzling one because it contradicted almost everything they have taught us about their mode, how they are going to do business so what have they described their policy over the last several years? one is they said they are data dependent. well the data from the prior meeting to this meeting has gotten better. us economy is doing better not worse. so they said they were data dependent. secondly, what did they tell us? financial conditions are a good proxy for monetary policy.

financial conditions are the loosest they've been in the last 10 years. financial conditions are looser today than when they started to raise interest rates two years ago, and so what did at the do? they made financial conditions looser which can lead to the risk of higher inflation. third what did they tell us? they said we're going to get out of the forecasting business? that's why we made the mistake that we made and yet what are they making another forecast and betting 50 basis points and a lot more that this forecast is going to be right. if they were good forecasters like larry lindsay that might be something but their forecasting record isn't so good and maybe as a last contradiction, that puzzles me. in the very same press conference that chairman powell said he was cutting 50 basis points, what did he say about the economy? he said it was very strong. larry: strong and so did the press release. >> so i don't understand the decision. others can describe their motives but it looks quite out of touch with what they've said is their way to make policy. larry: let me ask you a question. i want to put it in the context

of presidential and campaign policies. if the fed, you look at the dot plots, okay? and they are basically going to take the fed funds rate down to 3% actually a little less than 3%, got as high as 5.25 to a half. that's what they are saying over the next couple years so almost halving it. okay, now if you have a kamala harris who had an economic speech before the democratic convention, going to spend $2 trillion and raise taxes $5 trillion and spend $2 trillion, was in her plan, that's besides the price controls. $2 trillion of spending and $5 trillion of higher taxes. how would that do? the fed putting money into the economy, by halving the fed funds rate, in the next couple years. what would the outcome be in economic terms and i'll ask you the same with trump. trump in general terms wants to cut spending and cut taxes. okay? so you've got two different policies.

i don't know whose going to win. i know who i'd like to win but i don't know whose going to win yet and so forth. walk through as quickly as you can. what does it mean if the feds going to be this easy and they are telling us ahead of time. >> we don't have to make much of a forecast. we can look back. what the are the policies over the last four years? we saw a massive increase in spending and a massive amount of money printing by the fed. well what did we get? we got more inflation. so if you double down on those policy we should expect a very similar result. if you then raise taxes, more significantly in the next four years what are you going to do? hurt the real side of the economy. that sounds like a mix of stagflation and it certainly doesn't sound like what the economy needs. larry: too much money, chasing too few goods is the way i read it. spike in the punch bowl, i don't know how you get around that. i know you are much too nice a guy and you don't want to describe motives but i have called it political and i'll continue to call it political. i think jay powell made a very big mistake and you're right mickey bowman deserves kudos.

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larry: yeah, some said charlie gasparino correctly described donald trump knows kamala harris' economic plan better than she knows her economic plan, maybe in part because she doesn't have an economic plan anyway. the aforementioned charlie gasparino is right here with us. first all right steve forbes, forbes media chairman editor in chief and charlie gasparino, fox business senior correspondent, author of great book, go woke, go broke, the inside story of the radical corporate america. good to see both of you on set.

charlie, the front page of the "wall street journal" website. i mean, we've been doing all this secret service word salad stuff, but kamala has flip flopped. not the editorial page. this is the reporter, okay? not quite the same thing. charlie: definitely not the same thing. someone who worked as a reporter there. larry: she's flip flopped, medicare for all, fracking, green new deal, decriminalizing illegal immigration, and ev mandates. now, you know her economic plan better than she knows her plan. charlie: it's written on the napkins. larry: maybe smaller than a napkin. is she going to getaway with it? is she getting away with it now? how about that question? charlie: i think slowly but surely, the mainstream media is waking up to the fact that kamala harris is a cipher when it comes to policy and larry, one of the things, i pointed out in my book. she kind of landed on the vice

presidency, you know, joe biden said he went for intersection all it in terms of picking his runningmate and she was right there. she fit all the boxes including those intersectional boxes. he didn't pick her because she was great on policy or way as deep thinker and what you found is she spent four years in the white house as vp and didn't do any of the homework. now what we have if you ask her any question, okay, look at her answers and people are like what the hell is this? and, you know, you could say she's flip flopping, because what the bottom line is, she's empty, and she has advisors saying this is how you get elected by flip flopping on these issues, by touting these issues, even though they were, you know, opposed to what you said four years ago but that's how you get elected and she can do that. she's like kind of a techno-crat in a way.

larry: does she getaway with it steve forbes? it seemed like in the beginning she was getting away with it but now i'm going to say not so much. polls seem to suggest but i don't want to talk about polls here. people are catching up to her is what i think is happening, but what -- >> well they are discovering there's nothing to catch in terms of something inside. you go back to harry true man people thought oh, this guy is not ready for the presidency, but he had character. he had history, so there's stuff to draw on that was drawn up by the presidency, and radically changed american foreign policy, laid the foundation for winning the cold war. with her there's no evidence of that, and she does have an agenda. just look at the tax programs that people around her. you, for example, you've discussed it a million times. the capital gains tax, unrealized gains. we have to sell hundreds of billions of dollars just to get cash each year, tank the stock market so every person who has a 401 (k), that goes down. larry: she has not denied that by the way.

one of the few things she hasn't flip flopped on. >> and she says they say oh, she's flip flopped, showed electronic vehicles. no she won't ban the internal combustion engine. she will tax it and regulate the out of existence just like gas stoves. 96% of gas stoves won't qualify under current regulations. that's how they will it. larry: yup yup yup. charlie speaking of wall street tanking, the sec, securities and exchange commission chairman gary gensler and i'm going to say this he is a personal friend of mine even though i -- charlie: my condolences. larry: i totally disagree. he's not a bad person but i disagree with his policy. he and i were talking about that dichotomy in a conversation a few weeks ago but anyway he's put the sec into the claim at change business, he hates crypto business and you're writing in your column even if trump wins

gary gensler might stay at the sec? really? that is grim. charlie: it's going to be grim for wall street. it might be grim for america, although he's at the sec which is important but it's not treasury, thank god. it's not the federal reserve but it does have important function. it should be watching out so americans don't get ripped off in the private sector. so what i understand from people close to him, that know him, he's like saying i'm going to stay until my term ends. his term ends in 2026. even if trump gets elected. now here is where it gets funny and could be hysterical if this happens. so he stays let's say he stays, right? carolyn crenshaw another sec commissioner -- larry: democrat. charlie: gets reappointed by biden now, her term is up and the democratic senate approves her which it has to do. you get all that together, he could de facto be running the sec as not the chairman. trump could designate a separate chairman but they have three democrats on the five-member

board running policy. that could happen so now, republicans after my column are freaking out trying to figure out how to keep them from doing this so one plan is to lock him out of the building. obviously shut off his, i'm not kidding you. larry: [laughter] charlie: i'm getting this from people who could be replacing him. we'll keep him out of the building. larry: give him an israeli pager? that's a joke. it's a joke. charlie: we can't get in the building, access the e-mail system so he can't vote. i'm telling you, i'm getting this from serious people. larry: quickly. if you ever thought on this , because we're running out of them. >> take the climb the thing to court and lay the foundation that's how you undermine his success. larry: the sec has no expertise in climate. i mean, i don't think the epa does either. charlie: who does. it's impossible to predict. larry: this is one of gary

gensler's sins he's gone way, way, way too far, but he knows that. i really wish mr. trump had not talked about 10% living on credit cards. not going to happen. >> it'll never happen. >> it'll be led by the dakotas back in the 1970s, the move the caps on the credit cards. larry: i can't figure out why it must have been the moment. he doesn't actually believe it. charlie: how about the salt deduction? he brings that back? i'm praying. [laughter] someone who lives in new york. larry: i'll leave that alone but he will cut your marginal tax rate even more. last one. al smith dinner, i'm going to bet trump will, this viewers famous dinner, 80 years, i'll be there, we're all going to. charlie: presidential candidates go, they throw barbs at each other. larry: will kamala harris be there and go up against donald trump. hillary went up against trump. charlie: it was hysterical.

larry: what's your forecast? charlie: well, i say no. she won't, he will. but you never know. she's embolden by the debate performance. you know, i'm going to say to toss up all my sources. larry: we're running so far behind i love you guys it's great, steve forbes, charlie gasparino, kamala harris and al smith the late departed. switching gears, where is kamala harris? okay, this is another one. we've got alex marlow, we've got byron york, chief political correspondent at the washington examiner fox news contributor. gentlemen, welcome. we are running hot. alex if kamala harris can't even get through the oprah show without, i'm reading it breitbart's news candidate thing, oprah had to prod her to answer the question? i'm assuming a whole lot of millions of people watch oprah.

what does that mean? help us out here. >> yeah, the whole biden administration line has been that inflations coming down, larry. we know it's not coming down. just slowing a little bit and then when you see her try to squirm, the main question she has to answer, how is she going to get prices down? she can't do it and can't answer the question. she just pivots to her middle class upbringing. it's painful, i actually love it, but i enjoy it and she gets to p to ices how she's going to blow people away if they break into her house, that came up. when was the last time kamala harris slept without security outside of her door? i mean, this is decades ago, but she's going to blow you away. she's completely lost her mind and she totally peaked. larry: byron york, they are spending a lot of money on her as you point out in your column and yet, she doesn't really have a significant lead. in fact, byron, i'll just contribute one thought. donald trump has a whole history of under-polling and the numbers he's getting right now, i

believe correct me if i'm wrong, you're the expert, but these are the best poll numbers he's had compared to 2016 or 2020. what do you think, byron? >> yeah, they are much better than they were in 2016 and 2020. i do want to tell you, you into oprah's first question to kamala harris? i do know it and it was: can you feel the joy rising around here? that was the first question. so that gave you the sense of how it worked. larry: tough question. >> what's been fascinating about this race is its been very very stable. the new fox news poll had harris over trump by two, but the last one more than a month ago had trump up by one and before that, and when it was trump biden had trump up by one. this race stayed in a really really narrow little range and what's extraordinary and what my column is about is after four indictments, after an attempt to remove trump from ballots via

the 14th amendment, after lawsuits that just crippled him, one criminal conviction, after all of this stuff, thrown at trump, it's actually kind of extraordinary that the race is tied right now. i mean, why isn't kamala harris winning by 10 points after all this fire power? larry: alex, 20 seconds. listening to what byron is talking about how do you read the rice, whose the winner and whose the loser? >> trump is i'd rather be trump than harris because of the electoral map. if he can hold on to north carolina all he has to do is pick-up georgia and pennsylvania and he has six or seven other permutations. harris has to run an inside straight but the democrats are building to get out the mail-in votes don't underestimate it. larry: thank you gentlemen, we appreciate it. coming up the biden-harris illegal student loan vote-buying continues. you know, what is it about courts of law and judicial

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at the same time it says taxpayers that's having to pay for something that they, the student loan, the person who took the student loans out, it's their decision. no one forced them to go to college. no one forced to them to take a loan. now why is it our responsibility to pay for a bad decision they made? larry: but senator, i thought it was biden-harris that was going to preserve democracy but preserve democracy doesn't mean going against breaking the law as put out by the supreme court, federal district courts, even state courts. i mean, if you are advocating breaking the law, how is that defending democracy, senator mullin? >> well, larry, keep in mind this is the same person that the same party that put in their presidential nominee who never got a single vote for her. just totally kicked out their actual nominee that the american people voted for , american democrat people voted for , and

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about significant interest aliens entering. now that just means people that are on the terror watch list. they are coming across the border. he's down in san diego which is a hotspot as you know, and the bidens told him you can not release this information. i've got 35 seconds, sir. >> yeah, so we've seen this through the cia, fbi, all of the other agencies and now our border patrol that said they can't publicly release it unless they are specifically asked by congress and then they documented it underneath top secret ts or cs i and they said that if it is, it has to be asked in a skif, meaning a secured area and has to be specifically read in for the person asking the question, so now they aren't briefing congress. this administration hasn't briefed congress in over a year on this. they aren't briefing us. we have to actively go and ask specific questions for them to actually get this done. it's absurd. larry: more law breaking. that's all it is.

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