larry: let israel be israel, that's all i want to say. they'll save the west. they'll save freedom and democracy. they'll save israel and the united states and free people everywhere. just let israel be israel. and liz macdonald coming up next. hi, lizzie. elizabeth: good to see you,

larry. welcome to "the evening edit," i'm elizabeth macdonald. [background sounds] elizabeth: tonight israel and iran at war. iran fires 181 rockets at israel, its largest ever strike. a wider war break out on president biden and vice president kamala harris' watch. we'll show you what former president trump just said moments ago. the vice presidential debate happening tonight amid major chaos. senator markwayne mullin from senate armed services is going to join us in just a moment. also tonight, this -- >> all of our cities are rounding up their resources. we're coordinating with the north carolina emergency management to make sure that all our police, our fire, our electric services can be coordinated to get them up to help our friends up in the mountains. >> the amount of cleanup they're going to have, it's going to

take weeks. >> there's going to be a ton of rebuilding just to get commerce back, just where kids can get to school. >> no matter who or where you are in western north carolina, if you need help, we are working around the clock to reach you. elizabeth: we're talking katrina-level destruction from hurricane helene. now at least 142 dead, hundreds missing in the south. now it's not just one, but at least three october surprises meting the 2024 race. it's hurricane helene, a wider war between israel and iran, plus a port strike not seen in 50 years that will slam the economy and ignite higher inflation. all these black swan events putting way more on the 20 this race -- 2024 race and also pressuring tonight's vice presidential debate. fox business will bring it to you at 9 p.m. eastern time. we've got trump campaign senior adviser corey lewandowski standing by with his take on all of this and also on j.d. vance's

strategy tonight. but first this, let's take you right to haifa, israel. fox news international correspondent mike tobin standing by live9 with the update on iran's missile attack on israel. mike, what do we know now? >> reporter: well, we know that there's going to be a response, certainly one promised by israel. we just heard from prime minister benjamin netanyahu saying iran made a big mistake, and they will pay for it. that big mistake, this unprecedented ballistic missile attack. some 10800 -- 180 ballistic missiles making the 12-minute trip here to israel in a couple of different waves, most of them intercepted. some of them crashing down in central and southern israel, the shrapnel also crashing down causing some impact. we just had confirmation from an idf spokesman that one of the pieces of shrapnel crashed down in the town of jericho and killed a palestinian man. but with all of the israeli

leadership, they have a unanimity of message right now, and that is simply this second missile attack coming from iran cannot go unresponded, and they will respond in the time and place of their choosing. one of the latest to speak is u.n. ambassador danny danon. >> tell you one thing, it will be noticed, it will be painful. and i think that the people of iran who are watching us understand that it's not against the iranian people, it's against the radical regime that dragged the iranian people into this situation. >> reporter: the iranian leadership continues to taunt, the supreme leader, ayatollah khamenei, just sent out a tweet in hebrew clearly meant for the people of israel reading the blows of the up uprising front will become stronger and more painful on the worn and rotting body of the zionist regime. now, all of this follows a long prom from iran to respond --

promise -- particularly to the death of the hamas leader who was killed in tehran. they promised then to respond, but they had already fired a missile barrage, and like this one, it didn't really have much consequence. since that time there has been the exploding pager attack, the walkie-talkies, the assassination of hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah and the entire command echelon of hezbollah. and iran hasn't been able to respond. what they have done so far is to repeat the otherwise harmless missile attack at it israel. so they've clearly provoked the situation, but they haven't necessarily harmed israel. and one of the things that israel did yesterday is they launched a strike on yemen and made the point of saying it was the same distance to tehran. so as you have these israeli leaders promising that there will be a severe retaliation, they go back to that and say they can travel the same distance to the strike wherever they want. liz? elizabeth: mike tobin, great

reporting. stay safe there. >> here a short time ago a iran launched 181 ballistic missiles at israel, and we just -- i've been talking about world war iii for a long time. and i don't want the make prediction because the predictions always come true. we're not going to make -- but they are very close to global catastrophe. we have a nonexistent if president and a nonexistent vice president who should be in charge, but nobody knows what's going on. elizabeth: that was former president trump speaking just moments ago a in wisconsin. joinings us now from -- joining us now from senate armed services, oklahoma senator markwayne mullin. it's great to have you on. >> thanks, liz. elizabeth we've got thousands of u.s. service members overseas there. this news is coming in. israel's benjamin netanyahu now just said the people of iran, the people of iran should know israel stands with the people of iran. is he going to attack iran? >> you know, i don't know, but if i was iran, i'd be -- if i'm

in leadership in iran, i'm getting rid of all a electronics. i'm not having a pager, two-way radio or a cell phone because we see the reach that disreel can have on leadership. -- that israel can have on leadership. if iran said that they're going to continue to the attack and israel responded by you will feel this, i believe they better understand the capability that israel has. at the same time, liz, both of us know that this would never have taken place if president trump was in office. elizabeth: right. >> because if you have an absence of the united states, when you have an absent leader like we have in harris and biden, it creates an opportunity for a vacuum to take place which is taking place right now. there's -- they -- harris has allowed daylight to be between our relationship with israel. if we -- if there was no daylight there, if we had complete resolve with israel knowing that we're going to stand with them just like the rest of the world stood with us

for 20 the years on the war on terror, if they understood that, iran would have never done what they did tonight. 181 ballistic missiles, liz, is the most that's ever been shot -- elizabeth: yeah, and now we're hearing possibly a hyperconnick -- hypersonic missile. even "the new york times" in 2019 said that trump's sanctions on iran meant hezbollah fighters would not be getting paid. the biden-harris white house acts like they're the smartest people in the room, but they've given tens of billions of dollars in sanctions relief to iran, and this is what iran has been doing. secretary of state just said we are geopolitically stronger and jake sullivan said last year the mideast has been the quietest it's been in two years -- two decades, rather. you know, senator, this is a catastrophic failure of this biden-harris white house in the mideast, and now we've got multiple if october surprises. now at least 142 dead, entire towns wiped off the happen from

hurricane helene, millions of homes and businesses without power. you know, trump went quickly to the southern states and, you know, georgia. joe biden hasn't gone yet. he's going to go tomorrow. he was at the beach. kamala harris hosting fundraisers in california. when you see all this -- by the way, let's show the footage of kamala harris refusing to take questions about fema relief efforts. she's accused of staged photo ops. these are multiple october surprises and chaos and disorder. it's going to hit the vice presidential debate tonight. >> right. well, what you're seeing a is a crumbling of a fake leadership role that kamala harris and joe biden has been putting out. they've been saying words thinking the american people will believe what they say, but what we're seeing is the cards are falling. you're seeing it in the middle east, your seeing it in our -- you're seeing it in our energy prices, their lack of leadership and disaster -- what you saw with president trump is he immediately took a leadership role because it's who he is. he showed up and he started

actually making things take place. even contacting elon musk and saying, hey, can you pout put starlink up? we need connectivity. they can't reach people. we don't even know if they need help because cell phone taurus are knocked down. that wasn't biden or harris making that phone call, that was president donald trump making those phone calls. elizabeth: yeah. you know, that was the beginnine biden canceled a government contract for starlink earlier this year, $900 million u.s. government contract for elon miss elon musk's -- elon musk's starlink. we know fema has been putting up links for people in these half dozen states when you see what's going on, the beginning of trump's comeback, his stunning comeback, was when he went to to east palestine, ohio. that was the beginning of his turn-around. he is talking about showing up. they're not showing up. they're saying we're helping, but they're not showing up.

>> well, part of your job is showing up. and what you're seeing is true leadership too. i tell this story quite a bit, liz, about how donald trump showed up for my wife and i when my if son got hurt. it's because he cares about people. he shows up in these places not because he's trying to be a politician, it's because he truly cares, and that's what a leader does. elizabeth: all right. senator mull opinion, thank you for joining us -- mull ifen. we've got another major october surprise, a massive strike at our east coast and gulf coast portses. it's going from maine to texas -- pores -- right as supplies are needed to help the the states hit hard by hurricane helene. nearly half, about 40% of ocean imports halted. it's expected to drive inflation and grocery prices and more much, much higher. now wall street is ballparking a major hit to the u.s. economy. let's get right to grady trimble standing by live in the port of baltimore, maryland, with more. grady, good to see you. >> reporter: you too, liz.

and what you're seeing behind me, these picketing workers, i they don't want automated machinery replacing their jobs. i want to give you a look at the port here because you can see these big cranes in the background. these are the cranes that these workers would normally be operating, and at this moment they're at a standstill. we've seen some trucks pull up to the entrance here, some carrying cars. this port, by the way, one of the biggest for car imports and exports in the u.s. and these workers have blocked them. you mentioned the economic impact.

by some estimates it could be up to the $5 billion a hit that the u.s. economy takes every single day that this strike lasts. and here's how some industry groups are describing how you and i could feel the impacts. >> i think the first thing americans are going to see and feel are in the grocery stores. and then beyond that you're going to see electronic components, cars, any number of building materials. things are going to be the harder to come by, and they're going to get more expensive if the strike goes on too long. so certainly businesses and consumers are going to feel the pinch. >> reporter: and that's why a bunch of industry groups representing retailers, wholesalers, manufacturers and a well host of others are calling on the biden-harris administration to do more to stop this strike. they want president biden to invoke the hartley-taft -- or taft-hartley act which would essentially force these workers back to their jobs while negotiations continue, but

president biden has said he doesn't believe in that law, and the white house press secretary, karine jean-pierre, reiterated today again that they're not going to invoke it. so for now what that means, liz, is this strike is going to continue, and the longer it lasts, the higher the risk that a stores across the country will be impacted. elizabeth: that's great information, grady, you know? because i think george w. bush invoked the hartley act in 2002 to stop this. grady trimble, great reporting. thank you so much. >> but look at where kamala harris is today. she's only leading by 9 points. that would be the worst democratic performance in a generation, 10 points off the mark of joe biden who, of course, won four years ago with sort of that union guy, union joe, right? she's 10points off his mark and the worst in a general ration. that was cnn reporting that polls show kamala harris is on track for the worst democrat performance in a generation with union voters. that that's the democratic voting base.

there's also this, let's get to it. americans for tax reform president grover norquist. okay, this story that commerce secretary gina raimondo -- good to see you, grover -- she's, quote, not very focused on the port strike? really? when we need those supplies for hurricane helene victims in the southern states? >> well, president biden has promised to the union bosses that they can do anything they want. he has the legal authority to say keep the ports open so that we can get aid to north carolina and the areas or that are affected and the economy can keep going. do your negotiating but don't shut down the ports. the law is made that way because you don't want people to be able to abuse these kind of bottlenecks. and biden says, i promised the union bosses they could do anything they want. they've put billions of dollars into politics in the last two two years, and biden is not going to stand with american workers around the country, he's

going to be there with union leadership. elizabeth: and by now the majority of the teamsters are going for trump. you know, this is the issue too, this is all happening as the southern states are literally underwater. biden's poll numbers and harris' poll numbers have been underwater. the job market continues to slow. this friday we're looking at maybe just 140,000 new jobs, grover. the 346 month average is about1s about 116,000, the lowest since june of 2020. this is massive disorder. this is major chaos under this biden-harris white house. how how do you think that's going to hit the vice presidential debate tonight in final word. >> that will be very interesting because one of the things that walz is going to have to do, the governor of minnesota running for vice president, is defend his tax and spend policies as governor. he's raised taxes tremendously and just spent as much as a you possibly could taxing gasoline, taxing cars, tagsing middle

americans -- taxing middle americans, taxing their payrolls. he has declared war on working people in that state, and it's beginning to look more like chicago and new york and california with people fleeing the highest business taxes in the country. elizabeth: grover norquist, always a great analysis from you. a pleasure to have you on. >> take care, liz. elizabeth: it's not just one october surprise, multiple october surprises on biden and harris' watch. looked at corey lewandowski, he's coming up on all of this chaos and disorder hitting tonight's vice presidential debate. also fox business will bring you that debate at 9 p.m. eastern time. corey lewandowski's not a lot to say tonight. also tonight, president biden is now furious, he's outraged behind the scenes. a new report he's angry at kamala harris, that she's not talking about him at all on the campaign trail. he's also mad the democrat party has ditched him. coming up, guy benson takes on kamala harris' own social

distancing of joe biden and how will voters react. and this major reality check, texas governor greg ab at bot now says to biden and kamala, cut it out. stop taking credit for texas' border crackdown that's dropping illegal crossings, not you. you did nothing. you collapsed the border: trump tried to fix it. top law enforcement official paul mauro's going to take that on. also the 2024 race is about to get hit hard by new major economic numbers this week. we've got a lot to talk about with corey lieu lieu wan dow sky who's going to talk to us about j.d. vance's strategy tonight at the vice presidential debate. stay right there, we've got a lot of show for you. >> i've looked at polling that i've been privy to to and will probably be public in the next few days. trump is trending up in almost every single battleground state, almost every one. and when you ask the question how are you neighbors going to vote, you have very shy trump voters sometimes. those numbers explode, and i've

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tune in to fox business, we'll bring it to you. now former president trump says he'll do a play-by-play. there will be no opening statements, by the way, no studio audience, no props, no prewritten notes. let's get to trump 2024 senior adviser corey lewandowski. corey, talk to us about what will j.d. vance's strategy be tonight? we've got multiple of course surprises now. iran at a greater war with israel, the biggest strike ever -- airstrike, a major port strike, hurricane helene and j.d. vance is going to do the 2 2-minute final closing statement. he has the last word. what is his strategy? >> well, the strategy tonight, liz, is very simple, to remind the american people of the failed leadership that sits in the oval office right now, and kamala harris should not be promoted and that governor walz and vice president harris are the most radically dangerous nominees that any major party has ever put forth. so, listen, the two candidates tonight on this debate stage have a fundamentally different

view of what america should look like going forward. one is in favor of national security, homeland security and economic prosperity, and the other is going to tell us that the government should control your money, we should have open borders, and we won't protect our greatest ally in the middle east which is israel. tonight you're going to see two very different candidates who are going to outline two very different messages. the difference is tim walz has been on the debate stage, he's been an elected official for 20 years, so he's been on the debate stage nine times. d. the vance has been in office for two years, so tim walz is going to be the ready for this debate let's not underestimate that tim walz will try and run from the biden agenda. elizabeth: yeah. i mean, politico is reporting that democrats are really worried about a tim walz. he shuts down conversations when he's pressed about misstems, that's according to the report. -- missteps. he's not a gifted debater. he's got a lot of controversies like mishandling the 2020 the i riots. kamala harris has about a dozen flip-flops trying to appear more

moderate, flip-flopping toward trump's positions. there's also this, corey, how is this going to hit the 2024 race? house oversight chair james comer reveals a whistleblower says homeland security workers having -- going on microsoft chat rooming -- rooms to talk about their, quote, serious concern about longstanding connections between china and tim walz, they're even calling it nst, the acronym is nation-state threat. so how is tim walz going to the handle this barrage of really bad headlines and policy decisions out of this white house and his own administration in minneapolis -- in minnesota? >> well, tim walz is going to have to articulate to the american people why he supported the burning of one of the biggest cities in his state, why tens of thousands of people continue to move out of minnesota for more economic security and prosperity in surrounding states. tim walz is going to have to identify why he signed a bill that allows women to have abortions in the ninth month of pregnancy if which is clearly outside the realm of the

mainstream media. so tim wams has a whole concern walz has a whole bunch of problems. he was supposed to be this person to help bring the midwest together. the reality is when you compare his life to senator vance's life which has been an american success story, there is no comparison. tim walz exaggerated his tenure in the military, said he carried a weapon of war when he was overseas. we know that was never if true are. so he has to answer for those things on the, and i'm sure the american people are finally ready for him to sit down and answer some questions because after 70 days of being part of this ticket the, he's never sat down for a one-on-one interview. elizabeth: are you worried about the cbs moderate ors? will they be biased, do you think? people are saying, no, that they'll be middle of the road. what do you think? >> i don't want to to say they're going to be middle of the road, but j.d. vance has done every sunday show and take every shot that the mainstream media has thrown at him. he's incredibly articulate and smart, he fact checks people in realtime, so we're confident he's going to be able to perform tonight.

the american people saw what donald trump did on the debate sage, a three on one. i expect the same result results, which is a victory from j.d. vance. elizabeth: corey lewandowski, thanks for joining us. fox business will be simulcasting the debate tonight at 9 p.m. ian time. we've got a 2-hour special of "the bottom line" coming up. >> we did it, we did it, joe. you're gonna be the next president of the united states. [laughter] elizabeth: okay, wow, how things are changed. a new report biden privately is livid, furious, he's outraged both kamala harris and the democrat party have ditched him. they've stopped talking about him on kamala's campaign trail. guy benson's going to take that on coming up. and we've got more on this, texas governor greg abbott now says kamala harris and biden, cut it out, stop taking credit for our border crackdown in texas. that has helped your numbers look better. paul mauro's going to the take

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>> she is biden. the worst inflation we've ever had, a horrible economy because inflation has made it so bad, and she can't get away with that. >> thank you, your time is up. >> i want to that, briefly. clearly, i am not joe biden. elizabeth: kamala harris at the debate saying she's not joe biden. president biden reportedly really angry behind closed doors that kamala harris does not untalk about him or bidenomics enough on the campaign trail. look who's here, fox news contributor, guy benson. we love having you on. what do you make of all this? apparently, biden is also really

upset that the democratic party appears to have moved on from the him too can and and his accomplishments are no longer being highlighted. what do you think? >> which accomplishments, right? they have to sort of pretend like he had some significant ones when he was still their nominee. they had to pretend that bidenomics was kind of working. they had to go along with what he wanted to say because he was the guy at the top of the ticket. as soon as he melted down and his very diminished capacity became crystal clear in that debate on june 27th, it was just a matter of time with the clock ticking down to his irrelevance. and the moment he agreed to go along with all the a people basically holding the proverbial gun to him saying you've got to get out of the race for the country, sir, as soon as he finally acceded and said, okay, i guess i'll do it -- i think against his will -- that was the moment inevitably he was going to become kind of persona non grata. they gave him a standing occasion at the convention, they pushed him as far into the night as possible. they want him out of sight is,

out of mind because he is not popular and is a liability. elizabeth: kamala harris front and center, she's still giving non-answers. she was asked by two former nba players about what she was going to do to fix the economy. watch what she's saying repeatedly about how she's going to fix the economy and stop inflation. >> growing to to a whole entire company, what is your economic plan moving forward for people who are living paycheck to paycheck, struggling for groceries and rent and homeowners? >> so, look, i grew up, so my sister and i were raised by our mother. we lived for a long time on, in an apartment on top of a childcare center. i grew up a middle class kid. i grew up a middle class kid. elizabeth: how is this going to pay for milk and eggs, guy if she wants $4-5 trillion tax hikes on top of record inflation at 222 if compounded -- 22%

compounded, and now the white house is on track to waste $1 trillion in tax dollars on improper government payments that just was blown out the door. so how is i grew up middle class going to fix any of this? >> i'm not sure it will. i think a lot of voters keep waiting for more concrete answers beyond i grew up middle class and a few tinkering items around the edges and greedy grocers, but they haven't gotten those explanations or specific answers because she doesn't have them. this is what she's to got, that's it. elizabeth: guy benson, always terrific. guy is such a good thinker. we love guy benson. come back soon. now this story, this big development, look at this. texas governor greg abbott has had enough. he say, kamala harris and joe biden, stop trying to take credit for texas' border crackdown that texas is the reason why border crossings are dropping. let's bring in law enforcement official, he's the big techs

pert in law enforcement, he's paul mauro. paul, it's great to see you again. what do you make of this? because governor abbott, you know, governor abbott called in the national guard. he's been building the border barriers that bidenharris undercut. he's been trying to reverse and stop bad policies like getting rid of trump's remain in mexico and title 4 4 the 2 -- 4 the 2 and the executive actions. hooest saying -- he's saying stop taking credit for the work we have done. >> the idea is beyond laughable. i mean, let's review here. he was the border czar for almost the entire period of her tenure, and i know she's going to the claim root cause czar, whatever. whatever you term it, she should have taken some action regard aing the border. and consider the fact that as the second highest executive in the country, especially as being deemed the border czar with the president's -- she was in a position to have a meeting with alejandro mayorkas,s with head of the fbi, chris wray, with the

head of doj and just say, okay, guys, let's come up with a plan to not only harden the border but to interdistrict the groups like tren de aragua. she did none of that and, in fact, she's played games with these parole programs where we're now flying in something like 30,000 a month from cuba, haiti, nicaragua and venezuela. they don't even go through the southern border, so no wonder the encounters are down. she's done nothing, and it's a little too late to visit the border and say she's tiepghtenning it up. elizabeth: she said trump's border wall was a, quote, stupid waste of money, that's what she tweeted out a few years ago. border officials saying kamala harris falsely claiming they need a bill, they could shut the border down now. the supreme court already backed a bill. border officials opposed the senate bill kamala keeps touting the. it would cement in place 1.8-22 million -- 2 million illegals

crossings a year. let me get to the new fight over the shocking new i.c.e. data that spans the last 40 years. more than 425 illegal aliens with criminal records in the u.s., worthy of pending charges against them. show the data. including 15,000 illegal aliens convicted or to or charged with homicide, tens of thousands of other concerns -- criminals. what do you make of these numbers? not all of this happened on kamala harris' and biden's watch. it happened over the last 40 years, but i don't think people knew hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens with crime charges against them are inside the u.s.. >> so let's tie this to her primary rejoinder regarding donald trump's provisions along the border which was that he said let's not go through with the bipartisan bill. no provisions in the bipartisan bill to get anybody out. a fatal flaw and was one of the problems that shows she's not really being honest with us. elizabeth: paul mauro, we ran out of time. we'll have you back, we hope, very soon. it's good to see you begun.

>> and you -- again. >> i believe the president of these united states can be indicted -- >> we're going to be a real pain in the ass. i think they know my name personally. elizabeth: whoa, another democrat attempt at lawfare against former president trump could fail. new york appeals court judges now poking holes, major holes, in new york attorney general letitia james' case against trump. we've got the former clerk to supreme court justice neil gorsuch, he's mike davis. he's going to take it on on the. also this -- the. >> ever since iran has been exporting terror all over the world, it's been just unraveling. the whole middle east has been unraveling. but, of course, the whole world has been unraveling since we left office. russia would have never attacked ukraine. this would have never if happened in the middle east. there wouldn't have been is an october 7th. you wouldn't have had inflation. none of these things would have happened.

elizabeth: -- and, you know, multiple new october surprises hitting the 2024 race. and tonight's vp debate, it's iran, hurricane helene, the port strike. my panel is here to react. let's check in first with my buddies dagen and sean. it's good to see you guys. sean: welcome back. good to see you. we're going to do a debate preview with lara trump as well as the man who prepped tim walz for the debate for j.d. vance, tom tom emmer. dagen: we've got two hours coming up including all-around bad ass cory mills, congressman. he is on the ground in western north carolina performing rescues when biden and harris can't even get there. and then howard lutnick, ceo of cantor fitzgerald, he will be in the spin room at the debate tonight. danger to the economy, walz and harris are. top of the hour.ging ♪tor] ♪

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the moment i met him i knew he was my soulmate. "soulmates." soulmate! [giggles] why do you need me? [laughs sarcastically] but then we switched to t-mobile 5g home internet. and now his attention is spent elsewhere. but i'm thinking of her the whole time. that's so much worse. why is that thing in bed with you? this is where it gets the best signal from the cell tower! i've tried everywhere else in the house! there's always a new excuse. well if we got xfinity you wouldn't have to mess around with the connection. therapy's tough, huh? -mmm. it's like a lot about me. [laughs] a home router should never be a home wrecker. oo this is a good book title. elizabeth: okay, the vice president,, debate in just a few hours. take a listen to j.d. vance here. listen to him talking about a web of falsehoods and failures from if biden and harris, also the flip-flops. watch this flashback. we've got tim walz in a flashback saying, yeah, i want

single-payer, government-run health care for all. kamala harris saying, no, she doesn't want that. listen to to this. >> i think the american people are smart, and kamala harris talks to to them like they're children. what she can't do, refuses to do and has no ability to do so to say is i accomplished lower prices because she didn't or i accomplished lower housing prices because she didn't or i secured the southern border, because she didn't do that. she has failed as vice president, and the fundamental question is do we want the give her a promotion? if i think the answer has to be, no. >> i'm for not paying twice as much as any other industrialized nation and getting half of it. end up make sure you cut out that piece of the payer getting between people and their doctors. elizabeth: the government would take over your health care. joining us now, post political reporter jon levine and commit ifing -- political commentator sarah bed forth.

when -- bedford. what's your take on what's going to happen at the debate tonight? >> well, i think it's going to be an uphill battle for tim walz, frankly, because he is facing a tougher political stand scape. the risk for him is that he reinforces this perception that he and kamala harris don't stand for anything, that they don't have any concrete beliefs, that they've shifted all of them for political ec period yen city. and the fact that his personal biography has been riddled with misstatements really also reinforces that perception that they're sort of a shape-shifting ticket on the democratic side is. for vance, i think his risk is potentially coming off too aggressive when it comes the doling with someone who might look like an elder statesman on that stage next to him. certainly, i think walz has the toughest challenge. elizabeth: okay. so there's also this, i mean, jon, we've got now a wider war between iran and and israel. we've got a port strike that'll drive prices higher including for groceries.

and you have hurricane helene slamming the southern states. these multiple october surprises. how do you see the debate playing out tonight? >> i mean, i have no expectations that the moderator will hold governor walz's feet to the fire. umly, that's going to be to on j.k -- ultimately, that's going to be the on j.d. vance. he needs to to understand he's really debating kamala harris, and he needs to remind people that kamala harris is vice president right now, and the crisis in the middle east and the ongoing conflicts in the world is happening on her watch. and all of the stuff she talks about, about how prices are too high, it's happened on her watch. why hasn't kamala harris done anything right now? you can't promise all these things without answering that question, and this is really a proxy fight for the real conversation -- elizabeth: yeah, so what jon just said, sarah. will j.d. vance, he's going to make tim harris -- kamala harris own all these crises that are hitting america. >> i think vance has done that really successfully if so far.

he's been blanketing traditional media and nontraditional media alike while walz has been kept kind of in a bubble and running a really risk-free campaign just like kamala harris. vance hard already successfully prosecuted that case for donald trump. i think a he's proven to be a smart pick by trump for that reason, so tonight i do think you can expect the see vance really focus on the fact that he is running against the incumbents who have failed. elizabeth: so, jon, you sound like you're worried that the cbs moderators will be biased. >> i mean, i am generally not confident that any debate moderators are going to be the fair towards a republican candidate because i've watched debates for a very, very long time. and i think that's sort of baked into the cake. and j.d., i'm sure, is ready for it, and i'm sure he'll handle it as he because. elizabeth: great to have you both on. reminder, fox business will be airing the vice presidential debate tonight at a 9 p.m. eastern time.

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elizabeth: welcome back, new york appeals court judge pushing back hard against letitia james saying that nenearly the penalty against former president trump appears unjustified, saying that the penalty was troubling and letitia james was out of bounds, let's welcome former clerk to supreme court justice n neil gorsuch, mike davis. what do you make of this. this was decided by judge

engoron. >> the appeals court showing sas sanity in new york. even the democratic appointed judges understand how outrageous this verdict was against president trump, claiming that president trump overvalued mar-a-lago, they pretend it is only worth 18 million, it is 20 a acres of most people real estate of palm beach, florida, saying trying to say trump overvalued his really and therefore the sophisticated wall street banks were duped, and trump paid them back, in full, on time as agreed with interest, that somehow he defrauded the public. elizabeth: let's go through what judges said, justice questioned maybe there should be legal guardrails put around letitia james, going into an area not

intended for her jurisdiction, other justices said, you have two sophisticated players, deutsche bank and trump, no one lost money, no impact on the public mark the place, this was between two private sector players. even if there was a problem, sounds like a potential commercial dispute, why did the state have to weigh in. >> they didn't, because that new york attorney general letitia james, a democrat who campaigned on getting -- alleged in interference. a new york statute intended consumer protection statute for persistent fraud to go after her political enemy, donald trump. elizabeth: what do you think will happen in the vice presidential debate. >> i think senator jd vance

will show the american people that he is ready to step up on day one. serve if needed, you will see that tim walz is completely unready, never will be ready for the job. elizabeth: why do you say that? >> he doesn't have the right judgment. he doesn't have the right temperament. he is too connected to the ccp, taken some say up to 30 trips to china, who the hell takes 30 trips to china for visiting a communist country. he has been a terrible governor of minnesota. and not ready to be the president. elizabeth: got it, vice president there mike davis thank you. thank you for watching, i am elizabeth macdonald, good to be back. you have been watching "the evening edit" on fox business, dvr us, now to my buddies dagen and senate the "the bottom line." dagen: back in