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stuart: what is that? the fiasco? i know, of course. of course. they say sleep every night. it is 10:00 eastern on wednesday october 2nd. the dow is off 40, nasdaq down 82, continuation of yesterday's selling. these five stocks are adding 150 points to the dow. united health alone is up $5 nearly one%. 10 year treasury yield has been going up, up a bit more, 3.81%, price of oil up as israel threatens iran, who knows what will happen? up $2 a gallon, a barrel, $72.34. as for bitcoin, 66,000 a week

ago, 61,000 right now. that's the markets. now this. j.d. vance won last night's debate. that's my opinion and of most media outlets, the new york times says vance was dominant. edward: did not show well. he lost. the abc anchor lindsey davis compared his performance with joe biden's, in the disastrous june 27th debate. that is not good. the line up in november's trump and vance, forthright, competent, dynamic versus harris and tim walz, nervous, tentative and vance scored points when he got into kamala harris's record on the economy. that is the big issue, something the harris tim walz team want to gloss over to cover up. vance delivered a 1-liner, you've made gas, groceries and housing unaffordable for american citizens. that's a winner. he scored more points when he revealed that harris tim walz

abysmal border record which they want to run away from. tim walz wanted to ignore the 8 million illegals who come in in the last three years, vance set everyone straight, they are here because of you, not trump. the moderators try to do, fact checking which moderates are not supposed to do. a calm voice, vance overrode her, nicely done. by comparison tim walz seemed ill at ease, uncertain, spent time looking back at the 2,020 election in the events of january 6th. he did win an admission that republicans had to do a better job on abortion but that's about it. it is hard to find anyone who really thinks tim walz won. supporters let his loss down to in experience on the debate stage, there was no mention of the port strike, not good. president biden refuses to stop the strike if it drags on will hurt us all. where is the harris tim walz team on this? we don't know. vance won, tim walz lost.

vice president will debates often don't affect the election but this one might. second hour of varney just getting started. former arkansas governor mike huckabee. you think vance won as well, don't you? >> that would be a pretty good assumption and the assumption of everybody who watched except a few people at nbc. everybody else saw what happened. vance dominated. what made him so effective is he was incredibly measured, he was calm, he was forceful but not out of control. when you look at that as a juxtaposition against tim walz who was out of control, was caught in the headlines, when

asked about his lie regarding when he was in china, you could see the flop sweat breaking out on his bow. it was painful for him to watch that. i also thought cbs wanted to mute the mikes, they should muted the mikes of nora and -- i didn't think you could be worse than david muir and lindsay what her name but they decided hold my beer and watch this and they did it last night. stuart: even cnn's -- tim walz did not have a great night. >> even in the civility of the fact that tim walz came to this debate, he landed a lot of punches and all the niceties and all that and the what stood out to me is tim walz did not seem prepared. there was a clear lack of preparation and execution here. >> lack of interviews he has

done with national media, local media showed. >> i agree. tim walz was much more experienced at this. stuart: do you think tim walz's performance hurts harris and will it change the election? >> don't know if it will change the election. a lot of people have their minds made up. i don't understand who could be an undecided voter. undecided about what? a pretty clear choice. here's what i think happened to tim walz. he through the simulator, tim walz had been flying f-16s. tim walz won't do interviews. he is not had the personal of getting questions and having the repartee with reporters. tim walz has been doing that all day. tim walz and is in the studio, in the confines of a preparation room, flying simulators. jd was flying the real thing and it showed last night.

a disastrous preparation for him. tim walz had great preparation for jd. stuart: the quinnipiac poll latest, donald trump widening his lead in georgia, healy terrace 50 to 44, north carolina 5244, north carolina 49 to 47. what your reaction? >> i like it. i come to the conclusion people ask one simple question, was you, was your family and where you better off under donald trump than you have been under president biden and kamala harris and if you think you have been better off under kamala harris and joe biden, vote for them but not many americans, even the hard-core democrats or trump hating ones if you are honest they can't say it has been a better economy, better border, better international scene, it has been a disaster. get over donald trump's tweets as franklin graham said, you're not voting for a valentine, you are voting for a president who is going to lead the country

and that makes it easy. stuart: good stuff this morning. i understand billionaire bill ackman has been talking about tim walz's performance. lauren: tim walz is a sharp contrast to the rip smart, measured, unflappable j.d. vance adding, quote, i find myself feeling sorry for tim walz. he seems like a nice guy but in over his head, to be second in line to run the country a bit of a buffoon but in a good way. a kind man that will get his face ripped off in negotiation, not someone i want making consequential decisions for all americans. so i will quote tim walz. she did come across something of a knucklehead to some people, his word, when you think about this, the golden rule of the vp debate is do no harm. you are number 2 in command.

i would make the argument vance helped trump and selecting him as his number 2 as vp shows that trump has good judgment, good leader puts solid people underneath them, perhaps smarter than they are. you are not seeing that the other way around. stuart: thanks. back to the markets. dow down 40, nasdaq down 40. tesla just reported third-quarter deliveries, 462,000. what does that tell you about toes look, stock is down 5%. >> a lot of it was priced in earlier. tesla is still growing, still selling vehicles. whether you loved a elon musk or not, people find value in the vehicles and down to the point only a few competitors

left, down to gm in the us, the chinese are taking the markets by storm around the world so those guys are the ones driving that. learn new thing is people trying to get excited about october 10th, the day they unveiled a full self driving robo taxi and that is what people are trying to figure out, is there more to the tell a story? it is the optimists robots which are going to be used for deliveries or jobsites or battlefields which is the dual use and that's where the excitement is. stuart: how far are we from actual use of these fighting wars? >> closer than most people think. some people forecast three years. i think five. we are seeing if you look at boston dynamics in the robots they do so many things already.

we are seeing that play a role and all the stuff elon musk is doing from infrastructure, space x to boeing, and infrastructure technologies. stuart: we are seeing 60,000 layoffs, is that about ai? >> this is a little bit about ai and the exponential efficiency. their technology budgets are being strapped. they can't spend anymore money. what they are looking for is one tenth cost structure and ai is playing a big role in that. some companies are adding people are keeping the same but we've seen a lot of job cuts. sometimes they are listed as people who retired early or take a buyout package but we are seeing significant jobs lost. stuart: it hurts. see you again soon.

lauren is looking at the movers. start with humana. lauren: the worst drop since 2,009. humana is an insurer and their most widely used plan is medicare advantage of a lower quality rating and as a result, 25% of members, it was 94% for this year. you get a lower rate, bad rate, 94%, sign it, sign up to 25%. stuart: down 17%. you got to cover 90. lauren: the news isn't terrible. they have a new ceo. they postponed their first investor day in seven years and quarterly revenue fell by 10%. stuart: the electric car keeper, taxis.

lauren: toyota is making a big investment, they have the arm at toyota to $1 billion. they are up 14%. stuart: a huge show still to come including the biggest moments from the vice presidential debate. >> you've got to pretend that donald trump didn't deliver rising take-home pay which he did. simultaneously defend kamala harris's atrocious economic record. stuart: vance scored major points with that line. donald trump after iran launched ballistic missiles at israel. watch this. >> two incompetent people running the country. leading to the break of world war iii. lauren: israel is promising revenge next.

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we've not lifted a single sanction. we increased pressure. that's what we have been doing. stuart: they simply ignored the sanctions. israel promised retaliation against iran after iran fired ballistic missiles at israel. trey yingst joins us. what is happening right now? >> we have key developments in this story not just from the missile attack but also on the ground in southern lebanon where the israeli military confirmed over the past our there was an incident between israeli forces and hezbollah that led to the deaths of at least two israeli soldiers. the photo of one of them here, 22-year-old captain the commando unit who was killed during that incident. we saw some evacuation choppers getting some of the casualties out. as we look forward here. lucky story is how the israelis

will respond to the ballistic missile attack that targeted israeli population centers from iran. one hundred 80 missiles soaring through the skies of this country, some of them intercepted. others impacting the ground below. 's relapse advance missile defense system working to take down much of the fire. video circulating show significant impacting craters caused by the missiles. one palestinian man was killed in the west bank and two israelis injured. they use new hypersonic missiles and responding to the killing of the hezbollah leader and the is really security cabinet gathered to discuss what the israeli response would be. the israeli response would be significant. the missile attack comes as hezbollah launched 100 rockets into israel today while israel continues to target the lebanese capital of beirut with airstrikes. we are tracking one other security story out of israel, a shooting attack yesterday. south of tel aviv that killed,

and targeted a light rail train. as the country braces for the possibility of hostility. stuart: is there any chance. will they go after iran's nuclear facilities? >> there's a chance. after the last mass attack with ballistic missiles and cruise missiles and drones against iran when israel attacked it was a modest attack. around nuclear state sites and the point of that, and that could happen or they could go after iran's leadership, all of that harms iran's interest -- stuart: what they are doing is

discussed behind closed doors. they are probably telling israel ease off a little bit, don't go after the nuclear facilities or oil facilities. is that what they are saying? >> after the last missile attack, a lot of incoming missiles and other weapons, a lot of the coordination put in place by the trump administration. unfortunately, iran has made a mistake and should pay a price here. stuart: donald trump warned we are on the brink of world war iii. >> two incompetent people, and the policies of weakness and appeasement brought to the world.

stuart: world war iii sounds a little dramatic, doesn't it? >> it does. it is trump hyperbole, overdoing and oversimplifying things. historians think the closest we came to world war iii was the cuban missile crisis or again in the early 1980s when russians mistook red nato military exercise for a prelude to an invasion, and there was already sort of low intensity war, not taiwan, you have these three burning fires, but going on full on general war are pretty remote thankfully. stuart: listening to what tim walz said when asked if he would support a preemptive strike by israel on iran.

>> is relapse ability to defend itself is fundamental. getting its hostages back, fundamental. ending the humanitarian crisis in gaza but the expansion of israel and its proxies is an absolute fundamental necessity for the united states having steady leadership. stuart: that was the first question and i think he struggled to answer it. >> the question was phrased in a very odd way because it would not be a preemptive attack, it would be a retaliation. iran started the war. hezbollah invaded israel. you are left trying to balance the threat to israel with the humanitarian crisis in gaza, creating moral equivalence between the and of the and the ally and no plan for how to end this will resolve this conflict. stuart: vance won the debate, that's my opinion and of most everybody on this program. thanks for being with us. see you again soon.

the union boss leading the port strike takes home a massive paycheck. we talk about $900,000 a year. we will bring you the story. donald trump sat down with dave ramsey to lay out his plan to lower energy costs. >> down to 50%, of what it is right now. we have to. stuart: is that possible? get it down by 50%. we ask dave ramsey next.

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dj t. why is it down after the debate which vance won? lauren: vpd beta don't move the needle. i we moved on? is the news cycle so, the port strike of the middle eastern drama, world war iii feels upon us, maybe we've moved on but i want to check out trump media has been up 50% in 5 trading days so you have a selloff right now. we want slim jims with frozen food. why are they down? lauren: quarterly profit and sales disappointed, consumers are trading down. stuart: siena. lauren: up 4%, a billion-dollar share buyback, make networking equipment and site the pentagon and at&t as customers. blue one thanks very much. the economic policies, madison alworth checking it out. got to take us through what

each candidate had to say. >> that is what voters wanted to hear in this debate which was helpful for those watching at home. i want to start what i think was the highlight. we have an upward ability crisis crushing americans and vance pointed out the tough job tim walz had on that stage. >> you've got a tough job because you've got to play workable, the donald trump didn't include take-home pay. that he didn't deliver lower inflation which he did. and simultaneously got to defend kamala harris's economic record which is made gas, groceries and housing unaffordable for american citizens. we one tim walz and outlined part of their housing program but harris could have fixed the problem and her administration created the problem. >> the plan is talking about

the housing issue. 3 million new houses proposed under this plan with down payment assistance on the front end. >> to enact these policies, drive the cost of food, drive the cost of housing by 60%. lauren: the second question focused on climate change, never asked about inflation. vance was able to answer the question and tie it back to the economy. >> what have kamala harris's policy led to? more energy production in china, more manufacturing overseas, more doing business in the dirtiest parts of the world. if we care about getting cleaner air and cleaner water best thing to do is double down and invest in american workers and the american people. kamala harris has done exactly the opposite. lauren: missing piece of the debate the port strike didn't get any questions, that is

something that will affect the economy and people today and tomorrow. stuart: thanks. donald trump sat down with dave ramsey. listen to what he had to say about the economy. >> in terms of inflation you are right. inflation over the economy if you want to know because people are getting wiped out like never before. first thing you have to do is get energy down. if you get energy down other things follow. you want to get the interest rates down too. lauren: look who is joining us, dave ramsey by himself. what else did trump tell you about his plans for the economy? >> i tried to just sit back and listen. i wanted to talk about ideas on a low even keel. instead of getting into hyperbole at all that. we were able to do that. it was very direct and very knowledgeable about tax rates and things that move in the energy world and how that does

intersect the economy and the the commodity market from the presidential seat, not something you can do but you can encourage a drill baby drill, encourage opening keystone pipeline and if you flood any commodity market with commodities, we know supply and demand robs the price. stuart: you are talking plans to lower energy costs, he said he would get energy costs down 50% from where they are now. is that doable? is that part of his hyperbole? >> i have no idea how that is doable but i don't know what is under the heading of energy. the thing that is not shown in that clip is around 15% of gdp is direct energy production, direct energy production and the rest of it is impacted by energy. the loaf of bread has gone up on the grocery shelf, had to be delivered by a truck that had

more expensive gas than it used to have so it affects the price of local bread. that you are in direct connectivity of energy if you want to bring inflation down and stimulate an economy. but i have no idea. 50% doesn't make sense to me. stuart: it was a great interview, thanks for bringing it with us tomorrow. trump also sat down with larry kudlow and you can watch that interview on kudlow this friday october 4th at 4:00 pm eastern on fox business. this video shows the destruction left behind by iran's missile attack in israel. benjamin netanyahu says there will be retaliation. ports on the eastern gulf coast are close for a second straight day, union negotiations remain at a stalemate. jeff flock has the latest from port newark, new jersey, next. ♪

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stuart: a lot of selling yesterday. the dow is up 15 points and the s&p down a fraction, nasdaq down a fraction, not much movement at this point. shipping stocks were all up recently. a mixed picture today. we have a top four they are, top five rather, top four, two up two down. jeff flock is in new jersey. are there any negotiations going on? >> reporter: no negotiations that we are aware of. the shippers testing the resolve of the strikers based on what you are seeing behind me, the result is strong. they are also being buoyed this

morning by a number of things. they are the ones most hurt by this, delivering stuff that has come out of the ports. they never have low work. they don't have chassiss on them or containers. these are empty cabs rolling down, they won't have work shortly. the shippers have said they are proud of their salary increase. the union says that we haven't heard from them this morning that a 70% salary increase where they come back to the bargaining table, no negotiations right now. i'm holding in my speech. i will show you one other thing, the scene off the coast,

the map that shows more than 120 ships en route to atlantic portend golf ports. they are still coming. many are anchored off of the ports, the parade of ships keep coming. resolve fairly strong for men and a few women of the longshoremen and women's union. stuart: they knew you were coming. jeff flock in the middle of it. jean soroka is executive director of the port of los angeles and he joins me now. the west coast adopted a degree of automation in the past but the number of jobs went up as opposed to down. is that accurate? >> good morning, that is

accurate because we have driven so much more cargo over the last decade. could have been more jobs without robotics and what are the guarantees of jobs going into the future if additional terminals adopt automation. they bargained this in on the west coast of the united states. it's the most polarizing conversation we had in our industry. stuart: you can't just not have progress. you can't remain stuck in the past, industry is important as the ports. the position of east coast and gulfport workers is untenable. >> interesting conversation made more illuminated today because of being on the second day of the picket line. you are right. technology has never been moving faster than it is today

but in los angeles our statement is firm. we cannot leave the worker behind. each project has to be evaluated. we have to understand what job guarantees look like, what productivity must mean and how we continue to drive car go. in la, every container through the port creates a job. stuart: you've got the volume up 17% year to date, a huge surge in demand. you may service the extra demand because of automation. is that right? >> i've been pleased with our production. we are strong year to date. we had an extended peak season. the port optimizer allows us to see this cargo coming in 40 days in advance. all the key process indicators on my dashboard are at or better than where they were pre-covid, importers are not

using the port as a warehouse. the cargo velocity moving through this port is back where it should be. we are working on different areas every day but i'm pleased with the productivity we have in the port of la. stuart: thanks for joining us, see you again later. i want to bring in ashley webster. i've got a question. why are the weight loss drugmakers affected by the port strike? ashley: insulin and weight loss drugs rely heavily on east coast ports for all the incoming trade. that includes of those for eli lilly and ozempic and others. both eli lilly and novo notice rely on norfork, the company shut down by the strike. they said that it is now going to use airfreight with

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stuart: the market trying to see how retaliate against iran. check the yield on the 10 year treasury, 3. 80 one%. as for the two year also on the

upside moving to 3.65%. here is brian kilmeade. i think vance won the debate. what say you? brian: i think tim walz got off to a bad start and at the end he looked good. the whole thing, january 6th, separate that stuff out, for people who think donald trump did nothing wrong, tough thing to defend. gave it the last 10 or 15 minutes of the entire debate. tim walz looks like a guy who has been protected the last 6 months. it has hurt him. the other guy is doing four sunday shows at once. almost every interview he sits with his contentious. to get the nomination he had to go through a gauntlet to become the next republican representative from ohio and had to take on tim ryan, so-called moderate from ohio. he has been debating and

contentious situations for four years. go out there, fact check, governor of content over here talking like making him seem like an extremist and he calmly redirected and i thought it was really effective. i like the calm nature of it. i don't need to see the brawl. stuart: abc moderator lindsey davis compared tim walz's performance to biden's debate disaster. watch this. >> reminded me of vision 27th debate when kamala harris said of joe biden was a slow start but a strong finish. that's how i felt with tim walz did tonight. to use tim walz's own words a lot about this debate tonight was weird. there were uncomfortable cringing moments. stuart: not a nice thing to say. did tim walz's performance heard harris? will it affect the election? >> i was thinking about this this morning.

george bush xli picked dan quayle, nice guy but he was constantly under attack of the whole time. didn't matter. bush 41 most experienced ever. when you have sarah palin, you vote for mccain or not vote for mccain, he's the most experienced guy with a family rich with military history, great foreign policy knowledge. when you have kamala harris you have huge questions, you need someone established to run with you. a lloyd benson like character to run with dukakis or somebody who has been around with international experience, name with the economy. he's got none of that. both of these candidates have expert around them that say whatever you do, don't talk to the press. only read the speeches. and you see tim walz when asked about a hurricane or an attack literally look at an aid and walk the other way. the problem with tim walz i started realizing his his own

background, embellishment on awards that never happened. he was guilty. it's a misunderstanding as i got back to the police station. i was there at tiananmen square, you saw that last night, that's an issue, you are head coach or assistant coach, which was a? when you sit down with tim walz embellishing his military service you might spend the whole time going get look at your resume, tell me what is true here. there's a huge problem. nobody doing tim walz j.d. vance is doing for trump. stuart: does it change the momentum in the election towards trump? brian: we look at the same polls, one point wisconsin, one point michigan, dead heat pennsylvania, one point up in nevada. all of a sudden they say i don't know anything about harris but she didn't talk to us and she will talk to nba players about a pot roast and the vice president has done half an interview i did not do good in the debate i don't think i can take the risk.

after all the middle east is on fire, the east coast ports are shut down on the east coast, inflation is stubborn and i'm not sure we have come out of it because my wages are stuck. i'm going to go with the guy at least with a track record with an impressive vice president. i think that could be the one% to 2%. stuart: brian kilmeade, thanks very much. still had on this show today, these peak will explain why harris after joy campaign is losing steam. retired lieutenant general keith kellogg will answer the question will is real attack iran's nuclear facilities. we will talk to kennedy about whether vance was man explaining at the debate. and what brent bozell thought of the moderators, not much. the 11:00 hour of "varney and company" is next. ♪

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