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to the object you've it needed in a presidential debate? like all you are to have is a shred of objectivity and intelligence. >> this government stimulus is going to create a sugar high. we're going to ride that sugar high all the way up but we will sell it before that bubble pops. >> >> iran doesn't want peace and as long as it's flushed with cash it will pour resources back into its proxy. >> there are laws in florida that don't exist ic in other states. >> vance dominated. he was calm, he was forceful but not out of control. ♪ stuart: oh, let's go back in time to the temptations. hold on, i'm coming, not sure which story that relates to this morning. perhaps it's israel's attack on iran. i don't know. there we go, but again, sixth

avenue, almost deserted. check that market, please not much movement, minimal movement. the dow is up a fraction, the s&p is down four, the nasdaq is down three. not much action. let's see if the price of oil what's it doing at $71 a barrel right now, 70.99 the middle east crisis continues to deepen, israel is fighting a war on three fronts. check out the vix, that is the fear gauge. down today. it went straight up yesterday. down a little today markets calming down, now this. it's time we call the biden-harris mid east policy a failure. for the past year, our president has tried to appease israel's sworn enemies and repeated called for a cease-fire with hamas even though it would have allowed the terrorist to regroup and rearm. biden constantly urged israel to be restrained in the face of

naked aggression and had a pub falling out with prime minister netanyahu. with hezbollah same story. the president urged israel to ddeus calate. biden urged israel to deescalate, please. even though iran terrorist proxy killed american soldiers biden refused to go on offense and gave them billions of dollars and allowed to let them sell their oil. that is appeasement. he was trying to buy them off. it didn't work. very little of biden's policies worked. the fact is, hamas and hezbollah and iran ignored biden. watch this. >> i have one word. don't. don't. >> is your message to hezbollah and its backer, iran. >> don't. don't. don't. don't. don't. don't. don't. >> what's the message to iran? >> don't.

>> it was very important to send a very clear message to anyone who might seek to take advantage of the conflict in gaza, to threaten our personnel. here or anywhere else in the region. don't do it. stuart: don't? well, they did. they ignored america. fortunately, so did israel. netanyahu pursued victory and now hamas and hezbollah have been decimated. iran is about to take a big hit. biden and harris had one eye on the muslim vote in michigan and thought criticizing israel would win them votes in dearborn. they didn't want to attack iran's oil business because the price of gas would go up right before an election. they always play defense. always appeasement. always weakness. and now, the world is a tinderbox. third hour of "varney" starts now. liz peek joins us this morning.

liz, the policy of appeasement, that's how i define it has left us vulnerable. has pandora's box been open? >> well look war in the middle east is breaking out there's no two ways about it and one of the thing us didn't mention in that excellent piece you just wrote is that we have 40,000 us troops in or heading to the middle east. 40,000, stuart. i mean that's an extraordinary number, so remember in 2020 when joe biden accused donald trump of possibly leading us into war with iran? we are going into war with iran through this policy of appeasement and i have to say, you wind the clock back. remember the abraham accords? the abraham accords put israel in league with the gulf arab countries as a bulwark against iran. that was the smartest thing.

jerrod kushner did make it happen and it was an incredibly talented policy. he posted recently on twitter about this appeasement going on saying when hezbollah and hamas can't communicate with each other, can't communicate internally because of this pager thing that happened, and because so many people have been taken out, that is the know the time you retreat. anybody knows that. it's unbelievably terrible policy. from start to finish. stuart: let me comment a little bit, please, about the debate last night. i heard walz use the word "joy." >> [laughter] yes. stuart: i heard him say it once, maybe several times i don't know but is the joy part of the harris campaign losing steam? >> yeah, i think americans are kind of started off thinking wow, that's great. she's a fresh new face, and the media was 100% in for her, talking about this absurd joy comment. look at consumer sentiment. it's not particularly joyful right now, stuart. we have a whole bunch of problems this country needs to

face. you saw two people on the stage representing two different tickets. one is all about substance and policy and intelligence and the other ones about flush and joy and basically top-line talking points that don't resonate with voters because they don't mean anything. stuart: i'm inclined to think the debate last night and vance's clear win changes the momentum within the campaign for the election. i think trump gains from that debate. what say you? >> i think definitely it does because let's remember what's happening on the other side. nothing. they aren't talking to the press. they aren't creating any interesting new policy adventures, anything of that sort, and more important, j.d. vance was made a cartoon-buffoon terrible person by the press. that's by the way, just a few years ago they loved him because of hillbilly and all this kind of interesting background and so forth that he overcame. now they thought him because he's a trump accolade and

runningmate and so i think last night went very far to prove that that characterization is totally wrong. stuart: remarkable contrast between the two sides here. >> i should say. stuart: liz thanks very much indeed. back to the markets please i see some green on my screen. there you go. dow is up 31, nasdaq up 22 points, not bad. mark tepper with me for the entire hour. look, the markets sold off yesterday. >> yeah. stuart: because of the iran's attack on israel. israel is going to attack iran at some point, we believe. will the market sell-off again? >> the dow is up righted now so i think the biggest takeaway is when you have these geopolitical tensions escalate, yeah, there's a knee jerk reaction. yes the market will pullback, but historically, when you go back and you kind of look at what's happened in the past, i mean, these tend to be great buying opportunities for longer term investors and when you look at the returns one month after a large geopolitical event, they are kind of iffy.

the stocks are about even but once you go up three, six, 12 months and beyond the markets typically higher, assuming you're in a bull market which we are in right now with 80% of the s&p trading above the 200 day moving average. stuart: that's a bull market, right. friday, big jobs report. >> yeah. stuart: it's going to make difference for the market very probably. >> heck yeah. stuart: what do you expect? >> they are expecting 150,000 jobs and just to put that in perspective, you need roughly 125,000 jobs added every month just to keep up with population growth, and that is population growth amongst us citizens entering the workforce. that does not take into consideration this influx of migrants as well so 150 is not a great number. when i looked at the adp report everyone on twitter is talking about a strong report. i disagree. if you look at small businesses those companies that employ 49 and fewer employees, for the third straight month, they cut jobs. they were negative 8,000 jobs in september. again, small businesses tend to

be canaries in the coal mine and when they weaken shortly thereafter, bigger companies weaken as well so that is concerning. stuart: which is the bigger risk to the market? the port strike, if it drags on, or the mid east conflict? >> undoubtedly the port strike. this has the ability to cripple our economy. the longer it goes on, and what i've heard is that even a two-week strike can set us back from the supply chain standpoint into 2025. so the whole ripple effect of what this will actually do to the economy can certainly hurt us. small businesses may not be ready to sell products for the crucial holiday shopping season. we as consumers can't buy stuff. it will have a devastating impact. stuart: if it drags on. >> if it continues to dragon but even two weeks will hurt. stuart: mark stay there. more for you later. lauren you've got to be taking a look at ford, please. because they are down. lauren: shares down 2.25% lower weaker third quarter sales arrive all general motors now leads ford in electric vehicle sales this year through

september. gm 70,000, ford is about 67,000 ev's sold. stuart: i saw caesars on the upside earlier and i thought it was the china stimulus. there's something else going on. lauren: that and a $500 million share repurchase using those proceeds in part to reinvest in themselves, so caesars is a major winner today. stuart: here is a winner from the china stimulus program, and that be pin duoduo. lauren: who do they own? at the mu so popular worldwide, but especially in the us they are expected to be a boost from that stimulus so the chinese consumer spends more money on the economy. stuart: china stocks up all across-the-board all over again. lauren: all over again. stuart: all right thanks lauren. president biden's already facing calls to step in and put an end to the port strikes, but biden says that's not going to happen. we'll have the latest from the white house. jd vance was fact checked by the moderators of last night's debate and now some in the media are trying to paint his response as man-splaining? >> i actually think if you're a

woman that might be the worst moment j.d. vance had, because he was going to man-splain right over that mute button. stuart: [laughter] did kennedy feel that was or she's going to be here and she will explain everything to me. iran launched around 200 ballistic missiles at israel. the us was quick to aid in their defense, but if israel decides to retaliate, will us forces help them? lt. general keith kellogg on that, next.

♪ ♪ with so much great entertainment out there... wouldn't it be easier if you could find what you want, all in one place? my favorites. get xfinity streamsaver with netflix, apple tv+, and peacock included, for only $15 a month. stuart: the us jumped to israel's defense when iran fired 200 missiles at them. jennifer griffin at the

pentagon. jennifer, exactly what role did we play? did we, our forces, shoot down any of those missiles? reporter: absolutely, stuart. the pentagon is still assessing how many of iran's ballistic missiles were shot down by the dozen of so interceptor missiles fired from two guided-missile destroyers in the eastern mediterranean. the uss coal and uss bulkley. we've learned the us navy employed the egis sea based ballistic missile defense system to shoot down some of the missiles. defense secretary lloyd austin spoke multiple times yesterday. he issued the following statement. we come dem this outrageous act of aggression by iran and call on iran to halt any further attacks including from proxy terrorist groups. we will never hesitate to protect our forces and interests in the middle east and to support the defense of israel and our partners in the region. a message echoed by president biden. >> the attack appears to have

been defeated and ineffective and this is testament to the israeli military capability and us military. make no mistake, the united states is fully supportive of israel. reporter: the pentagon saw signs that iran was preparing for a ballistic missile attack when it began moving miss people launchers following the killing of hezbollah leader hassan nassrallah last friday, all of the 181 ballistic missiles were fired from iranian territory none by hezbollah. >> it's something that we've been monitoring. certainly this was a significant attack. probably about twice the size in terms of scope of what we saw earlier. reporter: the pentagon and state department said the us was not given a heads-up in advance by iran. the us official a us official tells fox news iran has been at a state of readiness to launch an attack on israel within 12-24 hours since early august,

following the july 31 assassination of hamas leader in tehran. the question now is what comes next. stuart? stuart: it is indeed. jennifer griffin thank you very much. israel's ambassador to the united nations, he says israel's response to these attacks will be "painful." >> what happened last night in israel was not a defensive action over iran. it was a calculated attack on a civilian population. israel will not stand by in the face of such aggression. israel will respond. our response will be decisive and yes, it will be painful. stuart: lt. general keith kellogg joins me now. general? how far will israel go? i really want to ask, do you think they will attack iran's nuclear facilities? >> yeah, stuart thanks for having me. i think it's clearly on

the target list. i think the supreme leader is on the target list as well and when they say it's going to be painful it'll be painful and they are trying to bring this to some type of resolution. i'm always amazed, stuart, when people listen but they don't really hear. listen and hear what the israeli are saying and but listen to wht benjamin netanyahu said when he was at the u.n. general assembly. when he talked about the book of solemon. they look at this fight in biblical terms and it's a fight to the finish on good versus evil and they are fighting multiple directions against multiple enemies, and they are doing quite well and i think what you're looking now is finally said okay we've taken hamas off the table, neutralized hezbollah, we've for the most part neutralized the huthis as well and now we'll go after the big target which happens to be iran and their primary big target their crown jewel, stuart, are their

nuclear development facilities and that's fordell, and they have shown they have the ability to get there because they have flown large instances and shown they have bunker buster bombs they proved that and i think they can get there and i think it's going to be painful. something happened just the other day, which to me is a tell kind of this is what's going to happen. they took out four syrian air defense sites with what they call sead, suppression of enemy air defense. why did they do that? they are creating a lane, airline that goes right to iran. i said start picking those up because you get indicators of what's going to happen and i think what you're looking at they will do it on their time schedule, when they want to do it and they have an enormous target list they can go after but they aren't to go after the big targets. stuart: america has considerable military force in the region and that was used to shoot down some of the rockets which iran threw at israel. now, when israel retaliates and

goes after iran, will we participate in that attack? will we help? >> well we're not going to help kinetically. we will hold and we're not doing a very good job of that and we should be full score behind them and we're not but we can provide them diplomatic support and provide them supply chain support. in other words replenish the bomb loads they have or the things they expend in the fight but the biggest thing we can do is give them diplomatic support. we shouldn't create this equilibrium there's good on both sides. we should be full square behind israel and we need to tell the world that. stuart, we haven't done that. when you kind of look at all of the things we've said repeatedly, it hasn't been full-up behind israel and we had an opportunity to take at least one target off the table and that's what the huthis down in yemen when they fired that shipping in the red sea and approaches to the red sea, we didn't do anything and we could have helped the israeli by taking that load off but we

didn't do it so sometimes we talk a game, we don't really play a good game but when it comes to this i don't think we're going to support them kinetically meaning fly airplanes but we can give a lot of other support and we need to do that. stuart: general thank you very much fourg for joining us on an important day. thank you very much. let's have a look at the price of gold. looking at some of the indicators that tend to move when you've got mid east conflict and tension around the world. the price of gold today is down off $23 at 26.66. the cryptos, there's not much movement there you got 61.5 on bitcoin, ethererum just a little lower. ashley come on in and please tell us how the defense stocks are doing. ashley: it's interesting, stu, because we saw them doing very well yesterday, but now, look at them today. they are in the red, coming off a little bit. in fact a reversal in the bond market as well if you've seen the yields go up as people taking money out of bonds, so maybe the risk is off a little bit. defense though, lockheed, rtx,

boeing, general dynamics, they are all moving slightly lower. want to also look at the shipping stocks if we can because it's interesting. they have been outperforming. let's have a look. mixed bag. couple up, couple down. does seem counterintuitive though, given the worker strike on the east coast and the gulf coast ports would have a big impact, but it seems that investors belief that the shipping companies going to actually benefit in the long run and they will be able to charge higher rates, which is interesting is it not as retailers look to move their merchandise in other ways. as they say mixed bag, we have a couple of shipping companies up, a couple down. it's a little different dynamic today than yesterday, stu. you know, not as prone to go into safety as we were yesterday. it's interesting. stuart: a little stability seems to have returned, although we're just waiting to see what israel

does in iran and when they do it, we don't know. ashley thanks very much. mark tepper with me. oil up today. >> yup. stuart: $72 a barrel latest count i think. are you buying into the oil stocks? >> we are overweight energy right now so the energy sector represents a 3.7% weighting in the s&p 500, we're at about 7.7%, so our biggest holdings are baker hughes, canaco, which is a nuclear play, and diamond back energy. i've owned that for a while probably at least two years or so i think. stuart: you've done well. >> very well. it gets a hiccup every now and then and it doesn't move and it pulls back but that's a good opportunity to add to the position because it's working. stuart: i just have the feeling that it's coming back. we'll see. thank you very much. kamala harris agreed to do an interview with 60 minutes but trump says, he'll only do a "60 minutes" interview on one condition. >> i want to get an apology because the last time i did

an interview with them if you remember they challenged me on the computer and said the laptop from hell was from russia and i said it wasn't from russia. it was from hunter. stuart: we'll see what media guy brent bozell makes of that but first the latest poll showed trump is leading in the swing states of georgia and north carolina. in fact he's beating harris on every top issue, except abortion. kennedy is here to take that on, next. ♪

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stuart: on the markets this morning i see some green now. we started out in the red now it's green. dow is up 70, nasdaq is up 40 points mark tepper is with us and he's got his stock picks. a favorite part of the show. home depot. >> yes, so look. home depot is going to be a huge beneficiary of lower interest rates. the average home in america is about 40 years old. they need to be upgraded, updated, renovated, and one of the issues we've seen over the course of the last few years, stu, is that as interest rates were going up, and they stayed high, and they remained elevated consumers shifted away from big projects towards small projects. so rather than redoing my whole kitchen i'm just going to

replace the sink. we're going to see that trend reverse now that interest rates are coming down and you'll see more consumers opting to actually go after and complete those bigger home renovation projects. stuart: where is it going 4.09 now where? >> easily see 20% upside over the next six months. stuart: close to 500. >> yup. stuart: axon. >> yeah, all right so accenture, this is your i.t. consulting play. they are definitely a beneficiary of artificial intelligence integration so when you think about all these big fortune 500 companies out there, as they try to integrate artificial intelligence into their companies, where do you start? which systems are going to be best for your specific company? accenture comes in. they figure it out for you and give you a game plan and set it up for you and then you can actually take advantage of that. stuart: where is it going? >> i think probably another 25% from here over the next six months. stuart: over the next six months? >> yeah. stuart: i'd like to make 25% on my money in six months. i'll take it too. tepper thank you very much

indeed. tim walz says the trump era tax cuts went to the top guys. ash, let's fact check him. is walz right? ashley: absolutely not. the data shows that statement is plainly false, according to a september 2020 report from the us senate committee on finance. middle income americans are the ones who saw the biggest decrease in total tax liability between 2017 and 2018 when the tax cuts and jobs act went into effect. the data by the way also shows americans with annual incomes between 50 and 100,000 show their tax liability drop twice as much as americans who make $1 million or more. by the way, walz also claimed trump hasn't paid any federal income taxes in the last 15 years. that's false as well. if you look at the records, they show, for instance trump paid 64 1,000 in federal income tax in 2017 that was, and 133, 445 in

2019, just to pick out a couple of years, so on both issues, mr. walz is plainly wrong. stu? stuart: they needed to fact check and we didn't have one until the moderator stepped in on that. thanks, ash. msnbc nicole wall as is accusing j.d. vance oh, man-splaining when he was responding to a fact check from the moderators. >> i actually think if you're a woman that might be the worst moment j.d. vance had, because he was going to mansplain right over the mute button and again i don't pretend to know how everyone will react to this. i think that a lot of women in positions of authority that should command respect just by virtue of that dynamic will see themselves and some dude that disrespected them. stuart: some dude who disrespected them? just because he corrected her and, oh, come on. was vance mansplaining kennedy? >> i show up for the mansplaining, stuart. that's why i come on your

program and you know what? i like it. he wasn't mansplaining. what he was doing was pushing back because they had agreed there be no fact checking during the debate from the moderators. that was supposed to be the job of the candidates. now, tim walz had plenty of time that he could have pushed back on senator vance. he chose not to do that. instead, mark brennan, who obviously has an axe to grind with the senator from ohio, she took issue and was like thanks for that, you think? yeah, thanks for the legal explanation, we're moving on. seriously, we're still busy and i hate you. that was the sub-text. stuart: i couldn't do that. a man cannot imitate a woman like that. >> that's why we need each other stuart. adam halvorseadam had ever and . at least in this moment. stuart: i'll plansplain this later. polling shows quinnipiac shows trump in front of harris in two important swing states georgia

and north carolina. that looks pretty bad for harris if the momentum has shifted in those two states. >> its been a five point shift from the recent polling. quinnipiac has not been terribly kind to president trump. that's okay we want these polls to be as honest as possible. they are still all over the map. a lot of these pollster vs. not adjusted for people who are not answering the phone when they call and talk abdomen trump voters or just flat out lie. the numbers for trump in some of these close states are actually a little bit better than the polling that we're seeing. real clear politics is calling pennsylvania a tie. i was just there this weekend talking to a lot of people and you have some very very motivated trump supporters who are being more vocal about their support this time around than they were in 2020 and 2016. i think you're going to see even more of a shift. now vice presidential debates typically very inconsequential but because of the performance that j.d. vance had last night, and the threat that his potential boss might be going to prison, he had the best showing of any of these four candidates

in the two debates. stuart: trump is ahead on every major issue. all issues, except abortion. is that issue, abortion, strong enough for harris to win in november? >> mathematically, no. in terms of where voters line up what is most important to them, for some women, and younger voters, yes. abortion might be higher than some of the things that are plaguing the most motivated voters, for them the top issues are still the economy and inflation and immigration, and we've seen that move up in terms of voter issues this cycle, because of the border crisis, which, you know, j.d. vance made the case that the vice president and this administration has not done enough to tackle. stuart: thank you for explaining that to me. >> i was mansplaining. stuart: i rather like that actually. thanks kennedy. coming up new york mayor adams getting support from unlikely allie donald trump. does the new york post john levine think these two make strange bed-fellows?

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stuart: all right, still seeing green. dow up 60, nasdaq up 45. lots of selling yesterday, not much today. pressures mounting for president biden to step in and bring the dock workers strike to an end. edward lawrence at the white house. is there any chance that biden

will take action against the unions? reporter: well, no, not right now, because quite frankly we're not feeling the effects of this as of yet because companies have pulled forward some of their supplies; however beings if this lasts, it could affect the holiday shopping season. listen to this. >> and so t they fully understd the real victims are the consumers who won't have access to the items that come through those ports and the businesses that won't have items to stock things on their shelves and ultimately all of us in the form of higher prices. reporter: the international longshoremen association refused a 50% raise as well as refused the biden-harris administration invitation to meet with port rate or s last week but i'm told now, now that the deadline has passed and states have to rebuild from hurricane helene, the pressure has increased to negotiate. president biden put this pressure, his pressure on the ports, but refused to weigh in on if the ports should avoid automation like the unions want.

>> isn't it a bad time to have supplies stuck at 36 ports as of right now, so how long then until the president decides he should step in in this strike? >> so a couple of things. according to fema, the strike is not impacting the relief of recovery efforts at this time because supplies were pre-positions and we are urging usmx to come to the table and present a fair proposal to ila. reporter: it is currently off the table? >> i've spoken to this. we had not usedtaft and we're not planning to. reporter: but with the election coming the pressure could mount on the president should it really impact those voters. back to you. stuart: mark tepper should the president step in and end this thing? >> should he and will he are completely different answers. yes he probably should because this is something going to cripple the economy, the longer it lasts the more painful it's going to be for consumers, small businesses, everybody. he did step in for that railroad

strike a year or two ago. in my opinion, he has no compelling reason to get involved in this ron, because he got ousted from the election, so i don't know why he would do anything at this point to help out potentially kamala harris or donald trump so i would say no. i don't think he's going to intervene at all. stuart: that makes quite a situation in the election doesn't it? >> yeah. stuart: politico reports international longshoremen's president and the union' was paid nearly $1 million last year. john levine, that's a lot of money. significantly, it's 15 times more than the average person makes in this country. hard to get sympathy for strikers who make that kind of money. >> right it's just incredible to me that this guy had that very viral video yesterday where he sort of threatening the president. you're not going to invoke taft-hartley, and he has that great look and the accent and that forearm tatoo but it's bs. he's a millionaire and his son by the way is the executive vice president of the union so it

runs in the family. he's just a common union thug boss. we've seen this many many times before going back to people like jimmy hoffa. it's crazy to me someone like that can threaten credibly to cripple the american economy because he's not getting a 50% raise i believe we just report? so i mean it's all the more reason why we need to get automation into these systems and ports as soon as possible because someone like that shouldn't have a chokehold over our economy. it's crazy. stuart: well said. let's talk about the administration here in new york city. yesterday, mayor adams presented a press conference alone. there's none of his team was with him, and now this morning, i'm reading here, new york times just reporting prosecutors warn of more charges and defendants in the adams graft case. this looks bad. >> it is looking really bad for him, and i don't, you know, i think there's a chance he could fight and win the current slate of charges against him but we don't know what's laying down the pipe, so it's very rough for him but this , you know, i'm

very sympathetic to adams argument this all really got going when he opened his mouth about migrants and all we can talk about is the first indictment because that's all we have and what i see is he's allegedly being bribed by the turks for 10 years, but what is their pay off? he opened the building two weeks ahead of schedule and run a fire inspection? that's not a lot of pay off of 10 years of being bribed by turkey, so right now, i think the charges are incredibly weak but we don't know what lays ahead. stuart: true but we're left with an administration in this city that can't do much. it's paralyzed at this moment. >> he maybe forced from office because of that. he doesn't have anyone who will work with him and there is a sense of paralysis and certainly if there's more charges it'll look rough for him and then we'll have the special election which i don't think we're ready for. we're not ready for how crazy that's going to be. stuart: if he was forced out of office his place is taken by, i can't remember? >> the public advocate, a man

named jumani williams whose very progressive i would urge everyone watching to google him. interim mayor for 90 days and he calls a special election and it won't be like a primary and two candidates. everyone can run and there's rank choice voting and talk of cuomo getting in. it's wild, wild times. stuart: yes it will and you'll be here to cover it. thank you, new york post, thank you very much. check out that dow 30, please. it's a mixed picture, we've got 14 winners and 14 losers and 16 winners, and i'm doing the math correctly today i do believe. then we have this. a study from the media research center says going into the vice presidential debate, cbs's coverage was completely skewed in favor of harris-walz. did that bias come across last night? media by brent bozell takes it on, next. ♪

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stuart: a study from the media research center shows 89% of cbs's evening news coverage for tim walz was positive, 89% of the coverage for j.d. vance was negative. mrc president brent bozell with us this morning. do you think the cbs moderators treated both sides fairly last night, brent? >> the shocker, they didn't. there's your headlines. no, you know, we looked at it. it's just a different kind of way they did it. last night, they announced a great pomp and circumstances that there was going to be no fact checking. there was fact checking all night long. let's start here. where did the questions come from? which directions did the questions come from? how many questions were from the left wing perspective, which is to say liberals wanted those questions asked. how many from the right wing perspective? answer, left wing 19, right wing 2. a 10:1 disparity over the questions that really should tell you everything you need to

know, but here is the second one. challenging questions. i've got nothing wrong with challenging questions. i like challenging questions. j.d. vance got 15 challenging questions, great. walz got seven, only half as many as he did, but this one is the big one. the follow-up questions that were asked. a follow-up is, stuart, a form of fact checking. i say something, you respond, and i come back and i say no, wait a minute, how about this? that's a fact check i've done on you. the follow-up questions, walz had two follow-up questions, j.d. vance had 10. 10:2. stuart: that tells the story. >> what they were doing was they were doing it the whole time, all night long. it was softballs to walz more or less, and hard balls more or less to vance. once again. stuart: one more for you. last time trump was on "60 minutes", they tried to accuse him of spreading misinformation about hunter biden. watch this. >> it's a very important issue

to find out about a mans corrupt whose running for president and accepted money from china and from ukraine and from russia. take a look at what's going on, leslie, and then you say that should be discussed. i think it's one of the biggest scandals i've ever seen, and you don't cover it. you want to talk about -- >> well because it can't be verified. >> i'm talking significant things. of course it can be verified. excuse me, they found the laptop. leslie, leslie? >> it can't be verified. stuart: trump wants to back out of his 60 minute interview now unless he gets an apology. is that the right move for trump, brent? >> yeah, and i don't know if i heard it on the sound bite. she also said that those allegations had been investigated and dismissed. stuart: correct. >> he should not agree to do anything on cbs especially when they announce they are going to life fact check him which means they will tape, do an edited

taped show and then live they will say and he's a liar, he's a liar, and a liar and have no opportunity to defend himself. no he should never get anywhere near, apology or not he should have nothing to do with them. stuart: well said brent bozell good stuff. thanks for joining us we'll see you again real soon i hope. it's that time, for the wednesday trivia question. and it's another great one. how many presidents lost the popular vote but won the election? 3, 5, 7 or 9 which is it? the answer when we come back. ..

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i'm going to say three in modern times. lauren: all wrong. stuart: john quincy adams, rutherford b hayes, benjamin harrison, george w. bush and donald trump all lost the popular vote but won the election. now we know. none of us looked it up. i had a bad two weeks. stuart: especially mark, the markets are in the green. see what israel has done, the price of oil is below $70 a barrel. a quick check of the treasury, yield is 3.78%. it's yours. neil: you are right.