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neil: have a great weekend. good luck in florida with everything. no storm at the corner of wall and broad to. what's remarkable about this employment report is what it is doing to the expectations game on what the federal reserve is or isn't going to do. the overnight bank lending rate, wasn't that long ago the majority were thinking you were going to see another half point cut in interest rates, down to one of 10, largely because the report is so strong. if you add revisions to the last two months prior, another 72,000 jobs. the economy looks almost too find to do anything to mess with her that. this might be one of the rare cases where good news is good news.
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we get the read on all of that. i want to go to gary kaltbaum. he has been relaying this dichotomous view of the economy. i used a big word. we have a bit of a slow down but it is an okay slowdown, not like a stock. markets taking it at that level that it is good for the economy. what do you think? >> we've been discussing this, the job market is every thing. it softened up. the government is telling us it is starting to accelerate and that would be great news. people with jobs, nothing better than that and the fed cutting rates into an acceleration, that could get interesting. the other part of the equation, the 10 year yield went from 3-63.96 in short order.
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the fed is also instead of 1/2 point they will go accorded point but at that point they could stop and if i were them, leave everything the heck alone. one hundred 50 million of us going to work to do better for ourselves and our families, the great companies that are creating wealth in this country and the technological advancements are doing just great if they just take a step back, we will be in good stead. longer-term i continue to be worried about the massive deficits and growth of government but the market doesn't care about that. lauren: 1 rates moving up going down and that produces a bit of a gap. some people read into that trouble down the road.
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successful soft landing, a pickup in economic activity but it could mean the federal reserve and all these expectations we see overnight lending rate close to half what it is now. that might not pan out. >> i keep hearing of the economy is too strong, that means inflation. we see plenty of strong economies without inflation. if the fed is just smart, get out of the way. don't print anymore money, that was a cause of inflation also and stay away. i'm a big believer in the markets. all the talk of recession, i have been saying there's no recession when you see caterpillar, united rental, very big in economic stock at yearly highs so let us go about our business and we will be in good stead and you have another kicker. you have china that has not thrown in one bazooka but 20
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bazookas, the second largest economy in the world, that means a lot worldwide also and that is why you are seeing a lot of worldwide markets at and yearly highs also, we have a decent 1-2 punch but i don't think they get in the way of too much and realize things are decent at this juncture. neil: always good seeing you. have a wonderful weekend. a good sense of the pulse of the people here, this is october after all, isn't the scariest of all months, that honor goes to september but we remember a lot of crashes and hits this month. that worry could be out there. in the meantime focusing on politics, lucas tomlinson where donald trump will be appearing later today and a certain governor with whom we had an acrimonious relationship.
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>> to put it mildly. we are here where donald trump is set to meet with georgia governor brian kemp. to describe the devastation that hit this, unity. locals described it as apocalyptic. hurricane helent is the second deadliest storm, the most deadly storm since hurricane katrina to hit the us mainland. we spoke to secretary of state describing efforts from the state to get the lights back on and he's enlisting power companies in texas and new jersey to come to georgia to get the lights back on. >> everyone is pulling together. understand how important power is, water is and getting kids back to school. a lot of moving parts, a lot of damage. people are really hurting. >> reporter: early voting
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starts october 15th in georgia. the secretary is working get to ensure every vote is counted even in hardest hit areas. some of the gop worried about the impact of the storm on the election. we've seen visits by president biden, vice president harris as well as visits by donald trump and j.d. vance in the region. a 3-quarter spread of a million people are without power across the southeast. we spoke to an election official who said they would make sure these critical votes in hardest hit areas mainly swing states are counted. >> if we are talking specifically around rural voters, we need to have mobile voting units put into place, the we have opportunities for the postal service to engage delivery, voters have the opportunity to leverage drop boxes to return their ballot effectively. >> reporter: augusta national
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chairman announced a $5 million donation to help the people impacted by hurricane helena. augusta national home to the masters. neil: a lot of the political risks the former president had with a number of key players in the republican party, he patched him number of them up and i'm wondering how that has changed fingers. making nice with governor kemp, has that changed the polls, would it be different if he had not done that? it seems tight in the state. what are you hearing? >> sometimes it takes a devastating hurricane to bring people together in national emergency. we saw the satellite imagery of the storm going through the united states, looks like photos from north korea compared to south korea and we see how much the power has been impacted a 3 quarters of a million people without power and when it comes to polling, what will future polls look like with so many people impacted by this storm, many without power.
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to pick up the phone of a pollster calls and a lot of concern about rural voters, many republican in these swing states if they are going to be able to vote. officials said they would make every effort to listen to the postal service. everyone using mules we saw carrying supplies and, maybe they will take votes out. neil: is that consumers six other states, a good many of them core republican states where the vote could be hard to get. thank you as always. the latest read from the elections editor of the post, just a reporter now. good to see you. what is your take on the jobs report today and if you are kamala harris this is welcoming news saying the trend is our friend, that's what they say, jobs jobs jobs, jobs keep adding and this talk of a
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recession has got to start stopping. >> she's doing a surprisingly good job of disconnecting herself from president biden and the administration she's been part of for four years. i'm always a little skeptical when i see job numbers because they often revise downwards which is convenient. neil: the latest were revised upward and the annual revision the labor department does had donald trump saying it was a whistleblower, the labor department released it but having said that these are volatile but what do you make of what the white house has been saying? the trend you've got to look at. the trend is picking up. >> people do look at these numbers. some will buy kamala harris's line and some will by donald trump's line. a lot of people also know from their own experience in their communities, they see their
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friends looking for work, families, sometimes themselves. i think they are going to timber the data from their own experience especially in swing states whereas you were noting, real impact from storms and other things. neil: do you think average americans look at the markets as closely as we do? you are not a nerd like me but you could look at the markets and make an argument that that is something that's going to be beneficial to the party in control of the white house. donald trump takes credit for the markets when they are up to say they are excited about that. he dismisses them when they are down. this white house doesn't make a big deal about markets one way or the other. what do you think of that? >> trump seems focused on the market much more than president
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biden. does the average person, not as focused, as the rest of us who are keeping tabs on things. smart people who only realized in the last couple years that their 401(k)s are tied to the market. not everybody realizes when the market is up. charles: the a lot are cnbc viewers. i am kidding. what do you make of where we stand with the markets, the jobs report that seems to show, i don't want to overanalyze when a new number can change that. people are feeling pretty good and are reflecting it in their by younger and what they are doing and handicap is that more than a month out. >> i would think stuff like this would be important to how people are voting.
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people vote with their pocketbook. there was a pool out of that at high point university that found donald trump and kamala harris, it had 67%, 2 thirds of voters saying they are on the wrong track. it is amazing they think it's on the wrong track, someone who's part of the administration. neil: i get a kick from those who say what do you think of the future of the country? i lost faith, how are you doing? doing okay. it's a little weird. >> we see that in the polling, people think they are doing okay. the doom and gloom headlines affect people. i will good news headlines affect people and will it be as important as it is normally?
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north carolina poll found a tie, the majority of voters, trump could be a stronger leader, they trusted him more to do what's right over what is possible. he's ahead on pretty much every issue, immigration, economy, crime, the big things on voters minds, he is ahead. and yet he is not leisurely 20 some of the wedge issues, we will see. the corner of wall and broad, surprisingly strong, is getting close to 4%. it had been 5% when the going through our woes here and as low as almost 3%. in the middle ground, the market rates backup, where they
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end up nobody knows. 3 day worker walkout on the part of shipping workers on the east coast and gulf coast is over now. they are getting a big pay raise, that could be inflationary too. and the one issue they are nowhere near resolving after this. ♪ (♪) (♪)
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neil: from a port that was in the middle of the storm to a port after the storm. the storm has ended for now after three days, ship workers on east and gulf coast of this fine country have paid differences, things like automation, not so soon or so fast. jeff flock has more on all of that. >> reporter: i am pleased to show you the first ship to come into the ports of new york and new jersey since the strike. you see right there, scott has a good shot of it, a number of ships stacked up. this is the first one to come in and soon it it will be at dock and we will see them
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unload. the director of the ports of new york and new jersey completed a briefing and here are the number she gave us as you watch the ship come in. 24 ships are at anchor off new york and new jersey. 19 more container ships, four car carriers and one specialty ship carrying 35,000 containers. you see the containers on the deck. 35,000 of them. there are additionally if you look past the ship to the shore in the port, 20 one thousand other containers are there that had come in before but didn't get out of la porte, they've been sitting the whole time. are some of those things spoiling? any vegetables spoiling? they are in and refrigerated containers, today they are going to bring in 11 separate vessels and they will begin
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immediately to offload, that won't begin until 7 p.m. she says. they will be working around the clock at two terminals, they will stay open for the weekend, going over my notes here, let's see. by this time next week the director says everything should be back to normal. they will have made up the backlog. asked also about the cost, initial estimates were 5 billion a day. the whole of the atlantic coast and gulf coast, this is what they told us about costs. >> porta 40 economist estimated the cost on a daily basis, economic impact to be between 250, and $300 million a day. >> reporter: speaking of money you might want to know what the folks got in terms of an agreement and there is no agreement really. there's an agreement not to
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strike anymore for 90 days and there is a wage for that amounts to, let me make sure i got them straight, 62% of salary wage increase that will take them up to $63 an hour on the high end widget was 39 on the high end. not as much as 77% increase they were seeking but more than the 50% the shippers have been asking for but to be very clear, this is not a settlement of the strike by any means. it is a little bit of the taft-hartley act later. they didn't force these folks to stop the strike but they were able to job on them, the biden administration. i leave you with a picture of the first ship to come in as the strike is over for the moment. neil: jeff flock, the former toys "r quote us ceo, i was
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thinking of you, a lot of toys on those ships and a lot of big retailers had gotten their hands on them ahead of this to prepare. what are we looking at? >> most of the christmas goods are already in the warehouses and ready to go. it wasn't so much a matter of what was going to happen for christmas, it was more what was going to happen to the economy as a whole. so i think it wasn't too bad as long as it was quicker. some idea if it goes on for a whole month, not a bigger issue. neil: the numbers are not final or completely crunched but looks like 62% rate hike working to an annual pay boost of 10% a year.
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a lot of these deals and workers say what you did for them do for me, what do you think happens? >> this is somewhat inflationary. not as bad as it could have been. relatively small number of people who control a lot. it doesn't mean it will beat that inflationary. if it has an affect on other jobs, other trades you see that. once it starts, people feel that pressure, inflation keeps growing and growing. the bigger issue overall is our supply-chain is becoming less reliable. what the houthis are doing in the red sea, that cause additional problems. worried about tariffs and what effect that could have.
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and weather, build this economy based on just in time for everything. no inventory anywhere. now we see if one thing goes wrong, it can have massive affect. retailers building up more buffer inventory which is the most efficient thing in the world but provides more safety in times like these. other things, more nearshoreing, things produced in the us particularly mexico and latin america but don't have to worry about this. lauren: 20 great seeing you. have a great weekend. investors worry about the kind of things gerald was outlining. this is october. i wonder what they are saying about these developments even with the run up we are seeing get today. edward jones, the ceo, what she is hearing and doing after this.
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october can get an unfair wrap, the more noteworthy selloff but it is not the worst month of the year, belongs to september. and edward jones ceo, they tend to be good years for the markets. and will you finish the year? >> i did not bring my crystal ball. in an election year, more likely to be up for the year and up more than in a nonelection year.
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and -- >> burrell direction they were moving in, sanguine jobs report today, wage growth is up, inflation is coming down, and talking to 8 million clients, how that affects them. what that means for each of our clients. neil: you were telling me this is the time of year, and technology stocks, and now they are unsure. >> financial advisors are getting to pay the college bill more than they are concerned about what's going on in the market. obviously it is a topic of
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conversation. there is volatility. in an election year there is a lot to talk about but when the direction is moving as it is, our job is to keep clients focused on their long-term goals, paying get for college education is on the minds of folks at this time of year just as much as an election. neil: let me ask about this election year, doesn't matter to the markets who wins. >> thinking about what campaigners do, it is their job to campaign. what happens is the job of policy and regulation and new legislation. there's a difference between what the campaign rhetoric is,
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how it actually affects regular americans, providing that perspective is what we've done for 102 years, 18 administration, there are gives and takes in any administration. neil: donald trump takes credit for the rally. people think people are excited about him to return to the white house on the white house says it is based on what we are doing. to donald trump, does that mean if he loses, the markets will go nuts in a bad way? they will tank, that is what he said. >> what affects our economy more is when tens of millions of americans go to work every day, when their wages are rising, when the cost of things that they want to buy is moderating.
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neil: markets respond to knee-jerk developments. i am wondering, is there a sense donald trump would lose, taxes and all that stuff which on paper benefit, you would think, him and wall street, is that a factor at all. >> markets respond to uncertainty and that is why after an election the market tends to respond a by going up because it is more certain about the direction. neil: the results we don't know for a while. with the markets the in a tizzy? >> volatility is caused by uncertainty. neil: the expectation was at the next meeting, and one in 10 chance of that happening.
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and and get panicked about that and looking forward to big rate cuts and by not get as many or as big? >> it is moving toward the target rate, if they are happy to see wages and job growth where it is, they will be data driven, what it means for clients is they can expect to see prices at the grocery store will moderate. if they are choosing to borrow from mortgages kids and grandkids who are buying homes that we are looking to be in a better position. neil: we got into this last time. the latest is the middle east.
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more fighting has picked up in southern lebanon, there does seem to be a clear panic about nervousness in the oil markets, west texas intermediate, up 10% or so on the week. what do you make of that? >> the geopolitical impacts are very real and very human impacts as well. you can't walk past that. it creates uncertainty as relates to oil prices. oil prices have gone up recently. after coming down significantly in the middle of the year. that kind of uncertainty is going to give us volatility in the market. neil: i was joking before with you the distinction between men and women as investors. men tends to be more impulsive and women tend to be much calmer.
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you won't see a woman going in and out of a portfolio recklessly. i don't want to make a generic comment but that was the gist of it. do you by that? >> studies have shown that women are very good investors. women tend to be less emotional about their investment decision and stick with a plan longer and that is what success and investment -- you're putting those words to it. we've done some research, women and wealth and how women, out it are markable what happens the next 20 years, women control $10 trillion of wealth in 2020. that will be 30 or $40 trillion over the next 10 or 20 years. the way that women feel about their money is going to shape a markets. we want women, we want all of our clients to feel the
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confidence that comes from being in control of their plan. having someone to talk with about putting this in perspective and keep our eyes focused on the long-term and creating what we call finding your own rich in life. rob: men or women. you didn't lecture me on that which i appreciate that. very good seeing you again. we have these cross cards in the economy not the least of which is going on in the middle east, not all airlines are packed and doing great. we have disturbing news for spirit airlines. lahren seminary who i saw before don is still working. i would like to see if she flubs this. >> reporter: it is an all-nighter. spirit airlines are what could go wrong. they haven't turned a profit since before covid. they tried to write the plane by merging with the larger
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jetblue but the department of justice said that would reduce competition and higher airfare who liked low prices. spirit is in discussion with bond holders, with chapter 11 bankruptcy. rival shares are spiking, 4% for united because if spirit goes out of business, and still fewer carriers to the roads. look at total shares up writing hype into next week's rubber taxi event. when will we see an unsupervised driverless tesla, investors expect confirmation of that. the optimism has overshadowed news that tesla recalled every cyber truck that it never delivered to fix an image lack
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on the rearview camera. i was not a child of the 70s. you were. you remember chicken patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun. neil: i don't know about that. the beef, the big mac would have 40 beef patties but they apparently that's a logistical nightmare. lauren: the chicken big mac sold out in the uk so they are bringing it to new york and other cities, limited rollout beginning october 10th if you were interested, that's bigger than me. the chicken big mac. i'm a business correspondence. i need to give you the meat of the story if you will. experts warned for beef shortage because of a port strike. we could see shortages as soon as next week. mcdonald's and other fast food companies often import because
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it has been somewhat decimated in the us, high grain prices, so if there beef is on those stuck ships and have the chicken big mac, that was a nice play. neil: you don't strike someone who eats fast food. i don't believe a word of it. lauren: it was chick-fil-a last night. are you asking me if i like fast food? i love you so much. lauren: i will have a salad at mcdonald's. lauren: salads recoil when they see me. please get some rest to, you are a nonstop working machine giving us all a bad name. thank you very much. she mentioned these cross currents going on including what is going on for some airlines versus other airlines, fast food powerhouses and then a lingering war that is expanding in israel as we
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neil: the renewed tension going on in israel. more actions against hezbollah, seeking out has new leader, not a position you want to brag about to the rest of the world especially when you have a big target on your back. having said that, oil prices have been rocketing of late, these expanding wars want to join the fact the president biden was not against this idea that israel targeting iran oil facilities, he preferred that to nuclear facilities. mike tobin has more in israel. >> reporter: israeli airstrikes are unrelenting, near the airport and the southern suburb, there are numerous accounts saying the target blow strikes was the man who is expected to succeed -- israel says the bomb damage assessment is still ongoing get. israel did say the hezbollah communication chief was killed
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and their intelligence headquarters was blown up. the foreign minister showed up in beirut warning against israeli retaliation for the missile attack. iran's supreme leader justified the october 7th massacre. >> translator: the operation that took place last year the same day as now was international right, logical, legal, palestine had the right. >> reporter: israel struck at the border crossing, refugees have been using to escape into syria, israel says the border crossing being used by hezbollah to smuggle weapons complete with a 2 mile tunl. now there's a 12 foot crater and the crossing is closed. israel says 250 hezbollah fighters have been killed as regular infantry and reservists are joined the fight. israel says they are destroying tunnels and weapons but no specifics how far they will push into lebanon or how long
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they will stay, just that they will continue until israelis can return to their homes in northern israel. for all the effectiveness of the air defenses, the missiles that have been shot out of the sky some of the projectile's get through and a drone fired out of iraq hit a base killing two israeli soldiers, wounding 2 dozen. neil: obviously you and your crew to be safe but you are incredible at this. i want to go to florida congressman brian nast, kind enough to join us. you know what it is like to sacrifice, you've been a great example to a lot of people and now people are looking at what's going on now and saying this is going to affect a lot more people, this war could expand. 's will goes after and start targeting facilities, oil or otherwise, it will expand but his relapse argument is we have to do this. we can't lay back and let it happen.
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>> there is good escalation and bad escalation and escalation israel is doing falls under the good kind. israel literally destroying what should be classified as iranian infantry divisions, just as much as the irg see and it is expected certainly, iran has laid out targets they would anticipate they would go after, massive natural gas fields, offshore rigs they have. i would point out in my opinion the biggest opponent to israel targeting iranian fields would be china given they get 10 to 13 million gallons of oil a day from iran that is off the books oil. julie: good point. we are learning separately that iran knew something is coming, they are moving a lot of their tankers and oil rigs.
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dispatching other equipment to the area that had nothing to do with oil but they are ready for that or they say they are going to get ready for that. so they are anticipating a strike on oil facilities at the least. that will send oil prices worldwide skyrocketing, don't know for how long but your thoughts? >> to go to this is a political point this is something that there' s a distinct position between harris and tim walz and donald trump and j.d. vance. donald trump wants the united states to be as isolated as we can, insulated as we can, from these middle east energy conflicts and tim walz and harris do not, they do not want policies that insulate america from these things as much as we could be insulated from what takes place in global markets but that's an important distinct position between the two. lauren: 20 what happens if
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israel says now is the time to go after these nuclear facilities? even one as deep underground, this is their moment, they can seize this moment, what do you say? >> they need to have the full american backing, they are doing work that america should be leave in. unable to enter ever again, they are doing a favor to the united states of america as much as they are doing a favor to the united states of america if they take off the table somebody responsible for killing hundreds of americans, we should give them support and thank you. neil: thank you for your sacrifice to this company. people who agree or disagree, take that away from you nor should they. good seeing you again. the markets are getting panicked about this and have a funny way of showing it. we are seeing a little bit of it in the oil markets where oil
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