david: well, thank you so much for watching the special edition of kudlow and elizabeth macdonald i heard you have such a fantastic show i wanted to give you a couple of extra seconds. liz: you're always so generous and kind, david asman. welcome to the "evening edit" i'm elizabeth macdonald. >> i put out a statement this morning i'm canceling my trip to germany and to africa

and i'm trying to rework those out later, but i just don't think that i can be out of the country at this time. liz: okay, major backlash growing against vice president kamala harris running through and laughing on "the talk" show circuit amid catastrophic hurricanes, even president biden postponed his overseas trip to stay on top of hurricane milton, but kamala is taping steven colbert in an hour and the clear division, he overshadowed her appearance on the view as he was talking about his hurricane response. now media reports coming in, insiders say her campaign is stalling out and also tonight this story. >> we are expecting another hurricane hitting. we do not have the funds, fema does not have the funds to make it through the season. liz: okay which is it does fema have disaster money or not to deal with hurricanes

and dhs sebaceous mayorkas says it does after he says it didn't, plus we've got more from government watchdogs and potential fema abuse, tonight, take this on, also we've got an update breaking news coming in from florida, what's happening now, ahead of milton. plus finally, kamala is grilled about her failures at the border as she is the boarder czar. >> the first three-years of your administration as a matter of fact arrivals quadrupled from the last year of president trump. was it a mistake to loosen the immigration policies as much as you did? liz: tonight, former trump deputy press secretary hogan gidley here to respond on "60 minutes" hammering away at kamala plus brand new government numbers out on this deepening crisis and potentially catastrophic national security breach. a new report that communist china has been secretly hacking

into us government wire taps in our phone system, so what does china now know? congressman cory mills is here to take that on, but first this. we've got breaking news about hurricane mi almostton closing in on florida and now is intensifying to a category 5 that's over 155 miles per hour. it is an atmospheric monster. it's unfortunately exploding in speed and it has doubled in size since yesterday. tampa faces the worst storm in a century. fox weather robert ray standing by live with the latest on braid en ton beach on the gulf coast of florida. it's in the bullseye. robert, thanks again so much for joining us. what do we know now? >> yeah, liz, category 5 just restrengthened 165-mile an hour winds churning out in the gulf of mexico. that counter twist as you see the gulf of mexico behind me very very still and all this debris field, asphalt, ripped up like pieces of paper,

well this is from hurricane helene just two weeks ago that brought in five feet of storm surge, liz, pushing sand from the beaches across the roads, light rain that just fell in here and you see the piles of sand that are pushed in and businesses that are completely boarded up with sandbags, and signs that say helene, go away. milton go away, spray painted on the sides of these boards. it shows you the amount of activity that has come into this side of florida, and the past year just remarkable, and now, we have unfortunately milton, about to come in tomorrow night, late night into the overnight. look at the piles of debris here in bradenton beach and the sand pushed up sea shell, people's businesses, people's homes pushed to the side. you see this all over the tampa area, st. pete, sarasota here in bradenton. all of these pockets were unable

to remove it, liz, because of the fact that this just happened two weeks ago and then now milton, churning, a mandatory evacuations there is no one on this barrier island. matter of fact it is an army national guard and also the sheriff's office and we've been talking to them throughout the day. they feel like most people have taken the warning seriously and gotten out and people are afraid of this storm. no doubt. liz, up to 10-15 feet of storm surge is expected here. let me just put that into perspective. so helene brought in five feet. okay? and you see the damage around me. well, this is about the size of a basketball hoop. 10 feet. this structure. imagine going five feet above that, and having the water rush in from the gulf of mexico taking all of this pushing it and a wind field of 100-125 miles per hour which is potentially what we're expecting. all of this debris, chairs, cabinets, mattresses will be like missiles being projected all through the air, and that is why the mandatory evacuations

are in play right now. so hurricane warnings from naples all the way up through here in the tampa area. the tampa mayor warning and using very intense words saying if you are in an evacuation zone, and near the water, this surg could come in for miles and if you do not leave, you could die. that is not my words. that is an elected official's words right now. hurricane milton, is what we're expecting making its way in here into a region that has not seen a storm like this in modern history. liz? liz: robert ray thank you so much for need to know information for our viewers we appreciate you so much stay safe out there. fox business will launch a fox weather simulcast covering hurricane milton as it's coming in starting at 4:00 a.m. this thursday morning. >> we are expecting another hurricane hitting. we do not have the funds, fema does not have the funds to make it through the season.

>> let me be clear as we have been clear throughout. we have the funding to support the survivors and the communities impacted by hurricane helene as well as hurricane milton. we have those resources. liz: okay that was dhs secretary mayorkas accused again of confusing everybody on whether or not fema is out of disaster money as he originally said. let's bring into the show florida congresswoman maria salazar. the congresswoman has been working hard protecting her constituents in her home district in florida. so where do you come down on this fema controversy? the fight is over whether the money is there, whether the government is doing enough to help. the government says it is helping. you know, nobody wants the hurricane to become a political football. we just want to know what the facts are to get people help. what are you hearing, congresswoman? >> wonderful to be with you again. no, we're floridians, we are used to hurricanes. i lived in 1992 through andrew, one of the worst most disastrous hurricanes that we have

experienced. last year, we had ian and government desantis did a fantastic job. what we're not used to is hearing from the federal government, specifically from fema that there's no money. what do you mean there's no money? and now, you have the attorney general, i mean, sorry, the inspector general saying that there is $8 billion that we can use to help those suffering from the hurricanes, so i do not understand why mr. mayorkas, homeland security guy is saying we don't have any money. we need the money and right now, look. the i-4 corridor is expecting this monster. liz: you know, congresswoman, you make an important point because homeland security and inspector general says yeah, at least 8.3 billion in unused unspent money since 2012 including $4.5 billion sitting around unused that was for superstorm sandy. the number could be 10 times higher. fema has 72, 73 billion in unused disaster funds just sitting there as bid ebb is

sending billions of dollars overseas outside the perview of congress. >> well, yeah. so i do not understand, but you have to pay attention to what the head of homeland security, mr. mayorkas is telling you so he is basically contradicting his inspector general. i do know that he said that he had used some of the funds from fema to help those illegal immigrants coming in through the southern border in the last three and a half years. we know that someone had to pay for their housing, their sheltering, their food, everything that has been given to 10 million people, who have come in through the southern border in the last four years, so look. this is a disaster. this is not the way the federal government in the united states behaves. this is more or less like banana republic-type and we don't like it. so that's why we need to make a decision and i'm not trying to politicize any of this but they are, because when you're in

tampa and orlando and you know that helene passed but now you'll have milton you need the feds to come and help you like desantis did a year ago, when i just said he did a magnificent job, not only during covid but during ian, the bridges were up and clean-up was happening, so you know, i'm not sure what's really happening. liz: congressman salazar, we'll stay on it. appreciate you, so much, good to see you again. >> thank you, lizzy. >> was it a mistake to loosen the immigration policies as much as you did? >> it's a long-standing problem and solutions are at hand and from day one literally, we have been offering solutions. >> what i was asking was it a mistake to kind of allow that flood to happen in the first place? >> i think the policies that we

have been proposing are about fixing a problem not promoting a problem. >> but the numbers did quadruple. >> and the numbers today because of what we have done, we have cut the flow of illegal immigration by half. >> you have changed your position on so many things. you are against fracking, now you're for it. you supported looser immigration policies. now you're tightening them up. you're for medicare for all, now you're not. so many of the people don't truly know what you believe or what you stand for. liz: okay "60 minutes" getting applauded for finally grilling kamala harris on why she and biden opened the southern border and then waited nearly four years to try to stop it. but three times she dodged if it was a mistake to let illegal immigration quadruple on her watch. she had no answer. never said it was a mistake. just word avoiding, you know, finger pointing, blame shifting. let's bring in former deputy press secretary to trump, hogan gidley.

hogan, good to see you again. what did you make of this? by the way border officials say she did not cut it by half. it exploded on her watch. she's talking about recent drops attributed to texas crackdown. >> more lies from kamala harris here but the campaign of kamala harris, joe, they are in a difficult spot, because when you put kamala harris out to try and get people to know her better, she's way more radical than joe biden and way less likable than joe biden so they are kind of stuck and this media blitz shows she realizes the campaign understands they have not closed this deal for the american people. you can't sell a bad product. kamala harris is a bad product. you heard her in that interview. not answering questions. everyone knows this border crisis didn't happen to kamala harris. it happened because of kamala harris. the left led by people like joe biden and kamala harris just left the border wide open to allow drugs, human trafficking, child smuggling to pour into our

american communities, and then she looks around like it's somebody else's fault and then at the last minute you see she tries to tout she actually fixed something on the southern border when she told us all along she couldn't do it. only congress could. the whole thing falls apart. liz: you know, show the government data again. the border under kamala has turned into a crime scene and a national security crisis. this is what happened on kamala harris kamala harris' watch. 12 million including gotaways people just walking in including look at this , more than 1,850 terrorists caught at border patrol stations and also between entry points, more than 6 1,000 illegal aliens accused o of of crimeswalking in, murder, ann trafficking and the border crisis is a top major problem. gallup shows 55% of americans want to flat-out curb immigration, reign it in. that's the most we've seen from americans since 2001. >> no question, and there's a reason why, because a lot of

these governors did the right thing and in the red states and pushed these illegal aliens into the cities that so many leaders there said they wanted them, you know, they wanted them all there. these were sanctuary cities for about 15 seconds until they realized it was a drain on their resources like education, like first responders and healthcare and all of a sudden they don't want them in this country anymore. of course you'll see a spike in those who don't want illegal aliens pouring into our communities because of the crime that's associated with them. you pointed out on that graphic it was great. all of the rapes, murders, the burglaries, the assaults, 100% preventable because those people don't have the right to be in this country. we have our own crazies who commit crime. we do not need to import more. that's why you're seeing a backlash on this wide open immigration policy and we already let in a million people every year legally. we don't need more illegally. liz: yeah, border patrol forensics say americans are literally getting victimized by

what they call a border collapse under biden and harris. hogan gidley thanks for joining us good to see you. >> thank you you too. >> i'll be honest with you, i'm a democrat but they have us over but for once we're standing up as a union probably the only one right now, saying what have you done for us? liz: coming up, the labor union revolt now growing against kamala harris and the democrats is escalating. teamsters chief shawn o'brien torches this version of the democrat party saying it's literally victimizing working class. our debate panel takes it on tonight. also tonight, more concerning moments from kamala's "60 minutes" interview calling into question "60 minutes" was, what does she really stand for? >> you were against fracking, now you're for it. you supported looser immigration policies and now you're tightening them up. you were for medicare for all. now you're not. so many of the people don't

truly know what you believe or what you stand for. i know you've heard that. liz: okay, the new york post miranda devine is here to take that one, plus which is it? does kamala think she's joe biden 2.0 or not? >> i'm not joe biden. >> i'm only not joe biden. liz: tonight we've got new sound of kamala harris literally flip flopping in realtime on the view today but first, elon musk says his stor star link sym is literally saving lives in north carolina and areas hit by hurricane helene. house oversight investigating why the biden-harris white house blocked a major government contract for it. details on what it found are next, coming up. stay right there. >> star link, he said we have no communication in north carolina. people are dying. like 500 people are missing. it's a disaster. the federal government is doing, the white house is doing nothing. they have abandoned us.

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it's our son, he is always up in our business. it's the verizon 5g home internet i got us. oh... he used to be a competitive gamer but with the higher lag, he can't keep up with his squad. so now we're his “squad”. what are kevin's plans for the fall? he's going to college. out of state, yeah. -yeah in the fall. change of plans, i've decided to stay local. oh excellent! oh that's great! why would i ever leave this? -aw! we will do anything to get him gaming again. you and kevin need to fix this internet situation. heard my name! i swear to god, kevin! -we told you to wait in the car. everyone in my old squad has xfinity. less lag, better gaming! i'm gonna need to charge you for three people. liz: welcome back. okay we've got another new controversy we have to tell you about. elon musk now hammering the biden-harris white house because the fcc blocked a major government contract to install

starlink receivers in the same rural towns hit hard by hurricane helene. that would have helped people communicate. musk says it was a move that caused major douse and now house oversight is investigating. hillary vaughn is on capitol hill with the story. hillary? reporter: good evening liz. well, the fcc is defending their decision to deny starlink the funding because they say starlink did not pass the speed test for the program. elon musk though is criticizing the fcc's decision saying real lives are at stake. "had the fcc not illegally revoked the state ask starlink award it would have saved lives in north carolina. " republicans on capitol hill now investigating the fcc's move to reject starlink to see if it was politically motivated. house oversight committee chair james comer writing to the fcc chair "the committee seeks information from the fcc to insure the commission followed established processes and is not

improperly using the regulatory process for political purposes." the fcc must ground its decision-making in law and not politics. but even though the starlink speed was not good enough for the fcc, it is playing a huge part in the recovery effort in north carolina after hurricane helene. over 500 starlink kits have been deployed to help bring internet back to hard hit areas who until then had no way to communicate and get help. >> one of the heros is also elon musk at starlink. these communities were disconnected. these are tough mountain people but they need to bring in resources. kamala harris had years and $42 billion to connect these rural communities and she didn't do it but in a matter of a button click, president trump did it. reporter: it seems that the fcc may have had a temporary change of heart about starlink. they issued a temporary authorization for starlink to work with t-mobile to try to deliver cell service to some of

these areas. liz? liz: hillary vaughn great journalism thank you so much. joining us from house ways and means and house infrastructure, congresswoman beth van dine back with us. congresswoman great to see you. what do you make of the story. starlink is being used in gaza, in ukraine and in this war against russia, used in most of south america so why not rural america? >> it's a great question and it was supposed to be used in rural america but you have the biden-harris administration who may be playing political gains. we don't know, seemingly so because the reason why they have been denied that those dollars is they are holding on to a standard that it has not been setup until 2025 so it appears they are holding back a company that is helping, that has, you know, its technology together far more than the federal government only for political payback? it would appear so. liz: do you know what's so weird? we're seeing a great reporter of

the new york times who wrote a piece for the free press. leland:s show what joe nosera and his colleague wrote. they are basically reporting private americans were already rushing starlink kits to the same parts of north carolina that biden-harris officials claim could not be served by starlink. i mean, so that is what's going on. regular americans are stepping up and stepping into the breach to help when there's a big pushback against what the federal government is doing. the federal government is saying we're hearing that the federal government is saying they are moving to put the fcc just gave starlink and t-mobile emergency authority to do these satellite coverage areas hit by helene but it feels like after the fact. >> exactly. too little too late and you're right. we do have private companies like starlink setting up, rescue for our allie, samaritans purse, operation air drop from here that are all stepping up and helping, but the federal government just doesn't seem to have its stuff together but there's a reason why. political a p appointees are

important. they should not be chosen because they fit a dei checklist. liz: okay, congresswoman who was on the checklist in dei to the fcc? >> i'm thinking about fema and hud. when i was an appointee under the trump administration, first thing i did with hurricane harvey, i had them put together a call with the mayors and county judges and said this is how we will proceed and and i made sure every one of them had my cell phone number. how can we help? these are the things we can offer, this is what you have to do and you walk with these local elected officials step by step to get them the help that they need to help their citizens. this is what leadership is about. liz: congressman, thanks for joining us tonight it's good to see you. >> thank you, liz. have a great night. >> her economic plan would add $3 trillion to the federal deficit over the next decade.

how are you going to pay for that? >> pardon me madam vice president. the question was, how were you going to pay for it? liz: okay, you know what? something about kamala's economic plan just does not add up. "60 minutes" is suspicious, so is the congressional budget office, so is the joint committee on taxation. you won't believe her answer to this , plus she's getting really grilled hard on her now dozen policy flip-flops. the new york post miranda devine is coming up, next. stay right there. >> you were against fracking, now you're for it. you supported looser immigration policies. now you're tightening them up. you were for medicare for all. now you're not. so many of the people don't truly know what you believe or what you stand for. i know you've heard that.

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>> clearly i'm not joe biden. >> i'm only not joe biden. >> we're obviously two different people and we have a lot of shared life experiences, but we're also different people. >> well if anything, would you have done something differently than president biden during the past four years? >> there is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of, and i've been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact. liz: all right, trying to figure that out. kamala harris flip flopping in realtime on the view going from saying i'm not joe biden to saying she is joe biden 2.0. biden again literally overshadowed kamala's appearance on the view announcing that he's staying in the white house to monitor helene. joining us new york post columnist miranda devine. you're so sharp and so smart when you see this it's like how do you follow it. like biden is distancing himself

from his own vice president. not the only way around. >> well i think that kamala harris is trying desperately to distance herself from joe biden and the disastrous 3.5 years of his term, and before she used to boast about bidenomics and being the last person in the room and being fully involved in the afghanistan withdrawal debacle but now she's pretending she's a clean new broom and i think that that's all back firing, because for one thing, joe biden doesn't like that. he feels disrespected so he's going out of hi way to insure that everybody knows in his words he and kamala harris are singing from the same song sheet, and i think that her campaign was looking forward to his being overseas, and out of the way for a week, and suddenly, he's just announced he's not going anywhere. he's going to be front and center during the hurricanes. liz: now she says she is biden

2.0. she is glued to biden. the majority of americans, eight out of 10 say the us is on the wrong track. cnn reports she will try to distance herself more from biden. it's hard to figure this out. watch "60 minutes" grill kamala on why she's flip flopped so many times, and watch them grill tim walz as well. watch how they botch and mishandled their answers. >> you have changed your position on so many things. >> in the last four years i have been vice president of the united states and i have been traveling our country, and i have been listening to folks. >> we're in hong kong during the tienemen square when you were not. is that kind of misrepresentation, isn't that more than just being a knuckle head? >> i think it comes down to the question of whether you could be trusted to tell the truth. >> yeah, well, i think that i can. i will own up to being a knuckle

head at times, but the folks closest to me know that i keep my word. liz: okay, so i'm dumb so i lie, really? that's the answer? let's show kamala's flip-flops and tim walz's falsehoods and the new york magazine says democrats are worried she's stalled out, her campaign is grim and the polling numbers have stalled. >> look, i think that's pretty evident from the fact that having hidden herself away for the first couple of months of this campaign now she's coming out and having to do the interviews that she's tried to avoid. of course she's going on easy territory like the view and various other chick podcasts but "60 minutes" was difficult for her. liz: okay thanks for wrapping it up. good to see you again we'll have you back on soon. >> thank you. liz: okay in that same "60

minutes" interview vice president kamala harris doubled down on talking about things like raising taxes. she wants to raise taxes by 4 trillion to $5 trillion over a decade, but you've got a big reality check from the congressional budget office. the joint committee on taxation will raise way less revenue than she claims as she wants to take that money from you. madison alworth in new york with more. reporter: liz, harris has been criticized for how much her plan will cost. she tried to avoid the repeated question on how she would pay for her economic plan. take a listen. >> it is estimated by the non-partisan committee for responsible federal budget that your economic plan would add $3 trillion to the federal deficit over the next decade. how are you going to pay for that? >> the other economists that have reviewed my plan versus my plan and determined that my economic plan would strengthen america's economy, his would weaken it.

>> but the question was how are you going to pay for it? >> i'm going to make sure the richest among us who can afford it pay their fair share in taxes. reporter: pay the fair share is her favorite line because it sounds good but this still doesn't all add up. even with all of the higher taxes she is suggesting, because according to the joint committee on taxation, and congressional budget office, several of the key tax proposals in the harris-endorsed 2025 biden budget plan would result in 1.1 trillion less in revenue over a decade than the white house and the treasury department have estimated, but harris is doubling down on bidenomics. >> if anything, would you have done something differently than president biden during the past four years? >> there is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of, and i've been a part of most of the decisions that have had impacts. reporter: voters will decide if they agree with that answer with

less than a month to go until the election. liz? liz: madison alworth always terrific reporting. we appreciate you so much. >> when you hear, you know, the vance and the trumps talking about what's happening here at home and saying things like america first, make america great again. that messaging sometimes resonates a lot more. >> absolutely. >> not sometimes it does resonate a lot more. >> people live in it. liz: okay that's a podcast the breakfast club on kamala harris failing to connect with voters, like trump and vance have done. let's welcome to the show rnc spokesperson elizabeth pipco. great to have you on. thanks for joining us so kamala on 60 minutes doesn't know how the federal income tax system works. she wildly claims teachers pay a tax rate higher than upper brackets. it's completely false teachers pay a much lower tax rate and we're showing how the system really works. what do you think? >> i think the american people

honestly are too smart to fall for this. there's no plan here. it's a few fancy sentences strung together because we are a few weeks out from election day. joe biden also ran on promising to tax the rich. how many politicians have we heard that from? without any actual explanation on how that's going to work, what that means and whether the rich are actually being taxed in a lower tax bracket apparently than teachers. it doesn't make any sense. it comes with no actual plan and it's exactly the reason that kamala harris is failing after almost four years in the white house to connect with the american people, because she hides until she can no longer hide, gets on television makes up fancy sentences that don't make much sense to the people who know for a fact they have been suffering these last four years and are not living as they were under donald trump. liz: you know what's interesting, elizabeth, watch what she says though. she wants tax hikes on top of record inflation. listen to what she says about that. >> pardon me, madam vice president.

the question was, how are you going to pay for it? >> well one of the things i'm going to make sure that the richest among us who can afford it pay their fair share in taxes. it is not right that teachers and nurses and firefighters are paying a higher tax rate than billionaires and the biggest corporations. i plan on making that fair and to your point, prices are still too high. i know that. liz: okay, inflation and prices are still too high. she just made a whopping lie that firefighters and teachers pay a higher rate than the upper bracket. it's insanity. it's totally false, and she doesn't mention the explosion in government and she says she wants to raise everybody's taxes and the government is glowing taxpayer money out the back door. >> she doesn't mention how much worse things have gotten because everything she and joe biden have done in the last four years, car insurance is up, gas

is up, grocery prices are up rent is up all due to kamala harris. we can't afford four more years of this. liz: that was your debut on the "evening edit" come back soon. you did a great job. good to see you. >> thank you. >> i'll be honest with you, i'm a democrat but for once we're standing up as a union probably the only one right now saying what have you done for us? liz: whoa teamsters chief shawn o'brien hammering this version of the democrat party saying he has had enough. he's saying this version of the democrat party abandoned blue collar workers. that's a big dem voting block. are republicans a new working man's party that's been the trend. my panel takes it on to night. also we've got this. >> so to say china attacks taiwan. would we use military force? liz: harris' answer to that is, you know, what would the us do? one of my guests is concerned about that.

tonight congressman cory mills joins us to respond but first, we want to know what dagen and sean have got cooking coming up on the bottom line. >> something hot and spicy, e-mac. thank you, yeah, so desantis doesn't want kamala's hurricane help because she's a disaster and we have mike huckabee to discuss as well as the teamsters president has harsh words for the democrats. i want to talk to markwayne mullins congressman from oklahoma. dagen: and the congress is coming up short when it comes to fundraising. former speaker of the house, the silver fox himself, kevin mccarthy is here, and then raymond lopez on the mayor of chicago claiming if you disagree with me on school spending, well, he compares that to slavery. top of the hour.

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340,000 truth be told so it's like, you know, people say the democratic party is a party of the working people. they are bought and paid for by big tech. those big tech companies, and you've got the republicans who are now saying hey, we want to be the working class party, right? and okay, you've got a great opportunity right now to do that, and the democrats, if 60% of our members aren't supporting you, the system is broken and you need to fix it. liz: whoa that was teamsters union chief shawn o'brien. he's unloading on this version of the democrat party. its been taking too far left and he's saying they are ditching working class voters. let's bring in fox news contributor deroy murdock along with political commentator sarah bedford. great to see you both. first to you deroy what do you make of this? >> a lot of f bombs that was quite something. i think the teamsters remember these are truck drivers among other things that concern these guys are the electric vehicle mandating including mandates to

drive electric trucks. they are much more expensive than traditional ones. they don't have anywhere near the range and they can't carry as much cargo so this is the kind of thing that directly hits their pocketbooks and then you look at what president trump is offering. he's talking about no tax on tips, no tax on overtime. once a worker retires no tax on social security benefits and if you're a company that produces in the united states, you only have a 15% corporate tax rate which is great for business so i think that in that sense, president trump is offering a very pro-worker policy and also pro-business and very good for the country and it's not a big surprise that the teamsters membership is supporting him. liz: you know, sarah, deroy just laid it out beautifully what's going on. you know, sarah, at this point, joe biden led by nine points four years ago. harris is either tied or leading around just maybe a point or two nationally. we should point out trump is up by a fraction of a point in the battlegrounds according to real clear politics polling. what do you think of what's going on here? >> i think for kamala harris,

this working class voter problem is particularly acute, because she's not polling well in the sun belt states, in georgia, arizona, for example, north carolina it's not looking great for her, so her really only path to victory is through those so-called blue wall states of pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin where there's a very high concentration of white working class voters who aren't buying what kamala harris is selling, and to look at her campaign, you wouldn't think they registered that problem the way she's conducting outreach primarily to liberal base voters. liz: interesting, deroy murdock, sarah bedford, you guys are great. thanks for spending time with us. good to see you. >> thanks very much. >> to say china attacks taiwan, would we use military force to support them? liz: okay, kamala's answer to that question has my next guest fired up and ready to go. congressman cory mills from house foreign affairs takes that on plus a potentially

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>> would we use military force to support taiwan. >> i'm not getting into hypotheticals, we need to make sure we maintain a one-china policy. and but that includes supporting taiwan's ability to defend itself, including what we need to do to ensure freedom of taiwan strait. we need to keep open communication with china. elizabeth: this is called a wake response from kamala harris saying we're not getting to hypotheticals. joining us now for reaction, florida congresswoman cory mills. great to see you congressman you heard response did that make you feel good she will do the right thing or would? >> liz it is because she has no idea what is actually taking place, this is why you see abraham according falling apart and not

advancing itself and russia's aggression continue to pick up because they knew there was no response. failed foreign policy. delisting of houthis attack of israel on october 7 comes under a weak administration, she does not understand that china has a few a few night window -- finite window where they can attack taiwan. it is important to maintain our relationship not so much with china, but with our quad agreements knowing that 72% of china's refuel supply capability has to go through indian ocean. this is why they created bringings, we have continued to she claims this say hypothetical, we know china eliminated one country two system framework of hong kong, they are already in business of violating treaties to advance their goals, why is taiwan important? they hold 92 percent of

microchips and semiconductors made, we need to oc consider this seriously and bolster or military. elizabeth: a cyber hack, likely connected to china, wiretapping of u.s. phone system, including reportedly vaccination and at&t. they know our u.s. intelligence and law enforcement is trying to look at. >> the super security attacks have increased more and mores not just the national security perspective but also intellectual property robbing billions per year from american companies, we need to do a better job knowing this will be a continuation. to increase and bolster and know where we are from a warfare perspective, not just bomb and bomb, gun and gun, it is economic resource cyber and supply chain warfare, we've been in that

for 20 plus years with china and ignore them, the democrats still compete they are competitors. note adversaries, they are adversaries, we need to p prioritize when americans are. elizabeth: a quick take about milton. >> it is one of the devastating storms, i grew up in florida, this is the first time i've been nervous about a storm, talking about a category 5. it is coming through my district, and impacting, take heed of the evacuations we're blessed to have an amazing governor in governor desantis eeveryone needs to listen to their emergency management systems. elizabeth: right now to dagen and sean. dagen: thank you