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special kudlow i'm david asman in for larry kudlow. communities are still reeling after hurricane helene. hurricane milton is quickly approaching. white house is slamming questions about their hurricane response as misinformation, even size they continue to send billions to ukraine and lebanon without congressional approval, they claim they need congress to increase fema money supply. if they need it all this florida governor ron desantis and vice president kamala harris are accusing each other of playing political games or calls about storm relief, we'll talk about it with new york congresswoman claudia tenney and florida congresswoman anna paulina luna in just a moment, but first. fox news senior white house correspondent peter doocy with more on this. reporter: there are some ways that president biden and vice president harris on the same page with the storm prips preps for miltons, other ways they are not to

how they see at current time, ron desantis. >> government of florida has been cooperative, says he has all he needs, i talked to him yesterday, i said you are doing a great job. reporter: doesn't sound like vice president thinks so, based on a question on a report that desantis is not returning her phone calls. >> it is irresponsible and selfish about political gamesmanship, instead of putting people first. >> what does it mean for resources. reporter: desantis is now saying he had no idea she was trying to contact him, but he is saying, he coulds thinks she is posturing. >> i have zero time to

entertain the political games we'll continue to do what we need to prepare and respond to what may be one of the most damaging storms in mystery of united states, she said focus on protecting your people, itselfish, she should look in the mirror. reporter: president biden now saying he will skip a planned trip to week to europe and then africa, because he d doesn't think he can be out of country at this time, he watched hurricane helene hit north carolina from his beach house in rehoboth, delaware, he said it was no big deal, he was in command he had his phone. david: optics were not great, wonderful reporting peter thank you. >> joining me now new york congresswoman cl claudia tenney and florida congresswoman anna paulina luna. whose district is in the middle of the pack of milton, this is a serious

moment, lives at risk and danger, they are lost because of the previous hurricane, we want to take it seriously, claudia tenney it seems that there is grandstanding by kamala harris. who is rub running for president, the president right now biden says he is finding it easy to copulate with florida governor desantis. what do you make of this? >> well first, david, you know my heart goes out to everyone in florida, i have a lot of friends there. i know my colleague anna paulina luna is been in middle of this from day one. she is working really hard add all florida reps and governor desantis is fantastic, he does not have time for a doi nothing vice president who is suddenly trying to look like she is doing something, i find this disturbing our president, who is not sure what is happening, propped up by staff is not supportive of vice president

who is now running for president, that tells you about lack of leadership in country and strength that is coming from ron desantis and other true leaders and other members of congress, like anna paulina luna, and cory mills and many others on ground trying to rescue people, because fema, is not coming to their rescue, a federal bureaucracy that is hurting a lot of people, i have been through this with flooding. in upstate new york, have great lake ontario, and finger lakes we have issues, there. david: we'll talk about fema in a second, congresswoman luna, what has been your understanding about the communication between the white house and governor desantis, by the president's account it is going well. and governor desantis said, he las not had a need to contact vice president harris she does not authorize the funds. >> you nailed it, 100% c

accurate, there has been obvious i think positions by kamala harris to use this as a mia -- means of making us look bad in florida, 'at 'p 'appears that biden, i have been critical of biden but he did step up to the plate and did call governor desantis, governor desantis is ready and prepared he activated 6 thousands national guard, we have ambulances in tropicana feel with hurricane helene we had 12 deaths, we have been doing everything on we can for people to evacuate, now is not time are in partisan nonsense, she needs to grow up and do her job and-saves lives, if she can't, step aside let someone else do it. david: it your district getting everything that is

needs? >> as i right now, i would say fema could do a heck of a lot better in giving funds we need too help our residents over 50 thousand residents with hurricane helene are going to be unable to return back home. we have a ton of work do on the ground. but i will also say, we'll need massive relief effort regards to bringing supplies in right now if this a category 3 or 4. infrastructure def station i devastation will be catastrophic there will be lives lost. david: congresswoman tenney. you mentioned fema before. a lot came from dhs. that is secretary alejandro mayorkas. here is what he said a few days before we were in worst, we realized worst of what was happening with hurricane helene. >> we are meeting the

immediate needs with the money that we have. we are expecting another hurricane hitting, we do not have the funds fema does not have the funds it make it lou lewin through the season. >> a whistleblower said there is 7 bil billion dollars that can be made available, i suspect he did not than at the time. if he did there is som somewhat is going on with the dhs. >> you are giving him the benefit of the doubt. they know they have been spending this money on illegal immigrants and over seas payment to ukraine, now they want to reimburse lebanon. look, fema has got a lot of problem, with bureaucracy, when you are not meeting

needs of people in north carolina and people in florida and harm's way, that is what fema was designed for, mayorkas knows they have been shifting funds away from americans and everyone american should know this and be outraged and whistleblowers will continue to come forward and tell us how that money is being wasted by the administration and. kamala harris has been busy going on tv shows, and call me daddy and these bizarre shows that have nothing to do with communicating with most americans, she needs to do this if she will be a serious player or taken seriously by anyone out there. and she is proving she is not ready for this job. to be the president of the united states or commander in chief. david: and there are big questions about what is happening with control in the ending of biden administration. it is a lot of loose parts here. in particular with a crisis like this. a double crisis, you wonder how it will turn out, we

heard peter doocy, give him report, what he didn't play, because not because he is shy but he was focused on other things, i will play his exchange with the white house spokesperson. that took place yesterday. he asked a decent question. >> if he has money for people in lebanon right now. without congress having to come back, what does that say about his value, there is not enough money for people in north carolina who need it. >> that is not misinformation. >> the way i are asking is misinformation, you ask why congress needs to come back and do their job, they nade no come back do their job, provide extra funding. >> congresswoman why does congress have to come back if fema runs out of money, when in fact, the executive branch of government can spend extra 157 million on

aid relief to people in leb known, they are doing that for congress. >> -- congresswoman luna i am sorry. >> you know in my experience, that i want to find money they can find it. it has been my opinion that this is political, you know i want to go to what you said before, there seems to be conflicted messaging, ven even out of white house, i heard that joe biden and kamala harris' staffers are fighting. i have a people looking at every in my community, i don't know if i getting home to a home to begin with. and i will say, we have friends that are responded to north carolina, they said they were searching for people with cadaver dogs, and instead of finding bodies they are finding entrails that area was so destroyed, i don't have time to deal with drama from white house, i need st

strong leadership. people need to think who that i want to lead us, cam ckamala harris is dropping the ball, this is horrifying. david: we're praying for your district in particular. we hope you don't receive the brunt of this what could be a terrible strategy. but, we're with you, we wish white house would gets it act together, president biden thinks he has with governor desantis. governor desantis has not said anything in contrary to biden, the question is kamala harris what role she is play, good to see you both, thank you. >> tune in to fox business fur thursday morning with live special coverage of hurricane milton, hosted by our team at fox weather at 4:00 a.m., on thursday morning. coming up courts have told them to stop, biden-harris keep pushing for more

unconstitutional student loan bailouts we talk about it with wisconsin senator ron johnson when kudlow continues.

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forgiveness program for people who work in government jo jobs or nonprofits, details are unclear about who will have their loans canceled with this announcement. so far, today, biden-harris administration has canceled nearly 170 billion in student loan debt for almost 5 million people, a number of those programs are held up in federal court after several republican led states moved to block them, and as vice president harris been moderating her more progressive positions this is not an area where she will split from her boss, she is doubling down on it. >> we're fighting, i'll continue to fight for student debt relief. student loan debt is a huge issue. to your point, it is a barrier do people able to

think -- think about starting a family. buying a home. and it just -- we need to give people relief. but we have to do more, debt is a big issue. reporter: we're getting new inflation data this week, it has been trending downward but committee for responsible federal basketb-- budget, saying that canceling student loan debt is inflationary and could lead to higher prices over again. david: did they not give a total number if all plan ghts plans went through over a trillion dollars. >> between, i have the numbers 870 billion. and 1.4 trillion dollars, this is what they say about it. that is more than all federal spending on higher education over the nation's entire history. david: that kind of money is supposed to be requisitioned by congress not the executive power, that is why it is know

unconstitutional. thank you. >> for more we bring in wisconsin senator ron johnson, what is it about supremacy of supreme court that the folks don't understand? >> well, when you are democrat president, you just ignore it this is a lawless administration. they ignore supreme court ruling on the eviction moratorium, they just went ahead and extended that. they have done this that with a number of different court orders they are trying to circumvent the court orders this is a lawless administration, they are trying to buy votes. i am sympathetic with individuals who have been enticed to incurring the student loan debt that exploded when obama administration had a federal government takeover student loans, to pay for obamacare. they wanted to to make money off student 11s, now they are forgiving the debt,

nothing more unfair than transferring that debt, to backs of people who paid off their student loans or done go to school at all. david: i remember when obama administration did that took out of hands of private bankers, they have been losing money hand over foot, that is why the costs are high. over 1 trillion dollars is the possible overall cost, but that is why that specifically why the supreme court said, it is illegal, it would never pass through congress. congress is to requisition that money. they won't because it is not a politically popular thing to do. >> you have to remember, all student debt is funneled to universities, and it drivings up the t tuition costs. when government gets involved in marketplace it screws things up. at least banks would ask are you getting a degree to provide you a job that will

allow to make earning to pay it back there is some control. with government in charge there is no control it is very sad we have enticed young people to incurring this level of debt. david: it could happen in so many areas of economy, you said what government gets involved it usually screws things up. kamala harris was pushed on this point. or under 60 minutes interview, played aired last night. i want to play a part where she is pressed on who will pay for her 3 trillion dollar more in spending with her economic program. >> your economy plan would add 3 trillion dollars to federal deficit over next decade. how will you pay for that. >> my plan, bill, if you don't mind, my plan is about saying, that when you invest in small businesses, you

vist in the middle class. and you strengthen america's economy. >> hard me, madame vice president, the question, how are you going to pay for it. >> one things i'm going to make sure that richest among us who can afford it, pay their fair share in taxes. david: first, she didn't answer the question, but she is talking about she wants government to invest more in small businesses. again, the government is a terrible institution to investment everything is then political this is why bankers exist and people, most small businesses are started by personal loans from members of families. the government is going to invest all this money all 3 trillion? really? >> of course kamala harris doesn't have a clue, all she has ever been involved in it government, probably does not realize top 1% makes 26% of all income that is the case, they will always make

most income, they pay 46% of the income tax, that is their fair share. i have to spring up, in wisconsin, the wisconsin u.s. senate race, been declared a dead heat, -- he created and operates shelters for sex trafficked children in the world. he needs support. eric. your listening to to support the race, we could get another republican senator. >> let's pullback more macro, you are -- going in the same place, i was going, we actually put together a graph of how much more that top 1% is now paying, since the trump tax code kicked in that the they were paying about 40% of all income tax. now they pay 45.6 persons.

%, 17% increase of richest 1% are paying, she thinks they are not paying their fair share, is that possible to squeeze more out of them, i can't imagine them spending more than they already are, as their share of income tax. >> democrats top use a demagoguery, and punish success. when you punish success you get less of it, you raise less revenue and have less vibrant economy because the entrepreneurs, they don't want to have their income basically confiscated by government, they want to be incentivized to creates more jobs and opportunities. then they use that like eric does, to put in foundations, build shelters for sex trafficked children that is what entrepreneured do they contribute, far more efficient and effective mapp manner than big government. david: if s senate and house do to democrats with

white house they could make their new rules about a tax code, that will expire in 2025. if they rip it up. the same way they ripped up trump plan in dealing with foreign policy, and plan in tealiteateal -- dealing with border, we could have immediately see a jump for about 65% of tax payers would we not? >> absolutely. the tax code expire, 4 years democrat government has been a disaster, 4 more years would make it worse. we can't let it happen. they would get rid of filibuster and pack the supreme court, they would turn america to a one party nation that is their goal. we need to defeat them. david: senator i'm getting a wrap, i'm wondering if kamala harris becomings president and does not get both houses of congress is

there a way through executive order she could same way they do s stuff with student loans that could deal with tax policy? that should go through congress? could she find some me memergency way. >> i am sure we would be ever bit as lawless biden administration and obama administration were. >> more embarrassing moments from kamala harris 60 minutes interview on her border crises and flip flops, we talk about it with chad wolf when kudlow continues. (marci) what is going on? (luke) people love how the new homes-dot-com helps them get quick answers about any property by connecting them to the actual listing agent. (agent) oh! so, i'm done? (luke) oh, no, no, no!

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david: kamala harris still has no answer for administration's

disasterrous border record, joining us now chad wolf. former dhs secretary. great to see you. i want to play a clip from that 60 minutes interview dealing with the border, the interviewer. pressing her on something, i don't think that she answers. >> first three years of your administration, arrivals qq quadrupled from last years of president trump was it a mistake to loosen immigration policies as long were as you did. >> it is a long standing problem, solutions ar at hand, from day one we've been offering solutions. >> i was asking was it a mistake to kind of allow that plug to happen in the first place. >> i think -- the policies that we have been proposing

are about fixing a problem, not promoting a problem. >> the numbers do quadruple. david: she doesn't answer, there is no answer, she has to admit they quadrupled, she knew it but would not admit it a way of lying without saying it. >> that is right, they have perfected the art of not being truthful with american public, the idea she keeps saying she offers solutions, or proposed them, you are vice president, president biden is in power, at one point do you take action and do things, instead of proposing and offering solutions. hoping that someone else will. implement them. >> i have they have introduced policies to

increase the migrant by 4 times, they did it, now they can only change with congress getting involved, they changed it on their own, that is what led to this quadrupling of the migrants. >> that is right. policies they did in 2021, led to crisis, but they have been talking about you know for last 8 months, are solutions, they come in an election year. thin they point to congress as the means to fix a crisis that they created. congress did not has a law in 2021 or 22 or 23, this administration changed policies, but now they point to congress as a means to bail them out or fix it, then shift responsibility to congress. i think that american people see what is happening. they created the crisis, they have the ability to stop it with a number of different authorities they could be using, they choose not to, she knows that, she could not answer the question. the answer is very obvious

to folks, it would have to -- admit they were wrong to begin with. david: let's talk about this bill, shy she thinks is vital to secures the border, we have on next news, border -- fox news, the vice president of council he said about her plans to hire more border patrol agents. >> fix they said, point the financial i finger at congress and add more agents, you put them in the processing center, to let more migrants, it has been chaotic with this administration. david: they t to change their purpose from pros -- >> not -- we don't have a resource issue on the

border, we have a policy issue, you can throw more resources, and hire more agents and more money. but if you will just continue on going policy of last 4 years that will get you nowhere, we have to change the policy then allow the officers on the border to imminent the charges and you will see a deficient direct -- implement the changes and will see a different direction. it does nothing to actually fix the crise, and address the catch and release policy, children that are being trafficked across the border, triggering affect this sunsets after 3 years, there is a whole host of things that are wrong with that bill. and it had bipartisan opposition, a lot of t people talk about a bipartisan bill, just because it is bipartisan does not mean it a good bill, it was flawed and there was bipartisan opposition. david: chips act had be

bipartisan support and there was a disaster. dhs has failed on so many counts under directorship of mayorkas, the border and secret service is under dhs control. we have seen how that has worked out. now we hear about fema funding, involved in r requisitioning funds and mayorkas does not know if he has enough money to deal with the hurricanes. is it -- let me put it out there, is it time to get rid of dhs, break break it up give various parts their own rule rather than one head like mayorkas? >> the issue you describe is right, a lead a leadership issue. the biggest issue is the

lack of leadership coming from the secretary. throughout the department. i think you can see that in fema and secret service and elsewhere, where when our priority is misaligned to figure up on the how you facilitate more and more illegal aliens and fema takes eye all of ball ins disaster relief and process more grand programs -- grant programs for illegal aliens it resonates, the best thing for the department is new leadership. david: i wonder about bureaucracy itself, after 9/11 is made sense, but you see what a monster it is now. >>ed whic chad thank you. >> kamala harris dropping ball in her interview, unable to debegin her policy flip-flops, joining me now liz peek. carolyn downey. thank you for being here. there were so many bloopers

in her 60 minutes we have played a couple. that 60 minutes, has decided to come to her rescue, they have done some editing, we know they have done the editing, the original prompts or the teases have been changed. i will show you one in particular. getting a lot of play on internet, kamala harris asked about israel. we'll play two sound bites. first one is the original. and second is same question. asked by same reporter but a different answer. >> we're not going to stop in terms of putting pressure on israel and in the region including arab leaders. >> seems that prime minister netanyahu is not listening. >> well, bill, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by israel that

were very much prompted by or result of many things including our advocacy for what needs to happen. >> it seems that prime minister netanyahu is not listening. >> we're not stopping, pursuing what is necessary for the united states to be clear about where we stand on need for this war to end. david: unbelievable, liz, you saw it, first one typical salad answer, a mixed mash of different thoughts that did not add up. and 6 one, they changed sequence, same question, but they moved it answer from what she said previously into that spot. >> this is why she has not done interviews she is terrible at it. and i would -- >> cbs, what do you think of what they did. >> i womb would say this happened because people are jiem screaming

that bill whitaker conducted a fairly intense interview with kamala harris and had follow-up questions we have never seen her deal with follow-up questions as in i'm sorry what you said did not make sense, could you redoredo it. >> we have seen that. >> kudos to him, shame on cbs. and i'm sure they are doing level best to suppress what came out of this interview, she has no idea what she is talking about she has no core, someone with a belief sit, and can express that, comes across as determined and she is forthright and its, et cetera, that is not kamala harris. david: my dad worked for cbs in 1950s with cronkite, they would have never done something like that, that changes history, cha chairman -- changing journalimp, you don't do

that, it now talk of internet. >> thankfully elon musk is bringing sunlight to fact this network has dishonestly doctored the clips to sanitize kamala harris a incoherence. >> the maze used by a lot of people including elon musk. >> we needed to see that kamala harris unfiltered and kamala harris she has been manicured by a favorable network, i agree with liz, i think that whitaker could be on the chopping block because he actually gave us a real reckoning of kamala harris' record and policy fflip flops in a way we've not received. for that, thank you, cbs for airing. david: there were two sides but, what they have done, that editing is someone will be called to account for that.

>> another issue. that is kamala harris is trying to deal with and figure out who she is. or time is, whether she is supportive of joe biden 100% or not. they tried to steam -- team kamala tries to distance herself but said this today. >> if anything, womb you have done something differently than president biden during the past 4 years? >> there is not a thing that comes to mind in terms -- i have been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact. >> woops, well. what about the afghanistan withdrawal. what about the border, and the economy. >> how do you promise a new way forward, if you are saying, hey we're not changing anything. i wouldn't have changed anything. biden already tee tupped, teed it up saying she has been there right by my

side. david: voters don't like those policies. put aside characters of trump versus kamala harris. it is policies that they are underwater. talk about jd vance, tim walz has a lot of stuff bubbling to surface about him. jd vance, media came out and said, gave him a disastrous entry into the vice presidential race. saying he was you know, right wing extremist. then came that debate he did very well, very cop r cooperative with his opponent, they agreed with each other, but smart as a whip, what do you make of reexamination of jd vance, look at what watchers said, you gov poll found 46% of those who watched it jd vance won and cloo% sai there is a consensus there, i think he did was disspell the caricature that

has been drummed up by harris-walz campaign as a bizarre, moral extremist who can't communicate with anyone because he is weird. highhe was most common common sense candidate, there was a piece i was reading vance of heir apaper to maga, he is able to bring the independents, suburban woman, maybe moms, i think a lot of moms liked ja jjanns j -- jd vance at the dent. >> liz we have to wrap. >> it have minute the arc of the election it is interesting not over. david: great to see you, thank you. >> liz and caroline. >> coming up violent anti-semitic protests take place all over america. and biden-harris administration is still unable to forcefully back

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david: vicious anti-semitic protest overwhelming cities in the u.s., kamala harris and joe biden still are

failing to forcefully defend israel, joining me now paul mauro former nypd inspector, first, i have to say, this is the anniversary of worst massacre of jews since the holocaust. a horrible day, october 7. this is the anniversary supposedly a memorial of that day. they are celebrating the terrorists who were responsible for that massacre. who also were responsible for the starting a war that has killed thousand of of palestinians. >> level of ignorance is mind boggling, october 7 is now a national holiday for these people? is this happening annually? think about this. what they don't realize, most of these kids, could not find gaza on a map of gaza, they know nothing about middle east history, a lot of them, are useful idiots. david: the kids, are

accompanied by older people who know the history of the middle east. who are either professors or enamored with terrorists, hamas and hezbollah or they are people from the most middle east, who are working with the terrorists. >> now, anyone who -- nobody wants to see palestinian children suffer. or people die, children die, hospitals bombed. but people don't realize, that there is a professional class of activists, particularly in f blue cities they are funded by government and ngo's a run this and weaponize the kids that come through, they cycle through the colleges every year. there is a reason they happen at universities this say career path it could be lucrative, it stuff never goes away there will be lawsuits, the cities settle. and it funds more protests. david: the protestors, so kso-called got antsy

and went after anti-hamas crowd that were waving their israeli flags, that is when the cops intervened. should they have intervened sooner this is new york. >> i saw that video, i can't tell how close they were to situation, the message has been sent to cops in this town is hands off. you will not be backed up. it. david: really. >> to 2020 and quote, unquote, summer of love, they will sue, we will settle, unless it is dire, they know what to do, mind handles more protests than any agency. david: they did well at columbia university, when in a stepped and clean it, it up. >> they were finally given the green late. david: who gave the green light. >> mayor adams. >> he has his own problems. >> he does. david: we'll hear what happens with that. paul mauro, wonderful to see you thank you, sir, appreciate it. more kudlow right after

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>> that's all for kudlow, we'll see you back here tomorrow. (dramatic music) - [narrator] in 1918, henry ford calls the press for a shocking announcement. - today is a monumental day, gentlemen.