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song for me. they know that i like the stones and it gets me going. 11:00 eastern time it is wednesday, october 23. check that market. we've got the dow up 260, nasdaq down 130. look at mcdonald's taking about 100 points off the dow. they've got an e-coli problem with their quarter pounders apparently and the stock is down. it is a dow stock so the dow suffers. show me big tech i've only got one winner and that's microsoft. it's up a buck at 4.28, apple, alphabet, amazon and nvidia are down. here is the 10-year treasury. here is the problem. its hit its highest level since july, 4.25% that's hurting the market. now this. if you want a laundry list of what's wrong with the democrats and their candidate, kamala harris, go straight to today's new york times. yes, the new york times. the bible of the democrat party. economist brett stevens writes

there's one main culprit if donald trump wins and who might that culprit be? liberal voices in government, academia and the media. a trump win will be their fault, says stevens. he writes that liberals are condescending, like a black man implying they are sexist, and name-calling and that's self-defeating. remember hillary's deplorables? liberals go in for gaslighting. now that she's the candidate they claim harris is brilliant but you can't claim any political or legislative accomplishment. liberals are high-handed. well the democrat party bosses did step into make harris the candidate without any vote for part of the democracy, where is the democracy? wait, there's more. stevens writes that harris and the democrats will not admit the reality of inflation. the border, and crime. you can't gloss over these things. they practice a double standard claiming trump kills democracy while they call for packing

the supreme court, ending the electoral college and forgiving billions in student debt without supreme court approval. one more. harris panders to black men. concentrating on identity, she's walked away from the working class. that identity, that particular identity, is no longer in the democrat coalition. there's a lot of solid reasoning in brett stevens op-ed. it tells you exactly why kamala harris is likely to lose, and it is published today in of all places, the new york times. third hour of "varney" starts now. martha maccallum is with us this morning. martha? i was really surprised to see that from brett stevens in the times. it is a take down of liberals. >> brett stevens has always been a very independent thinker, and you see that here, as he writes this column for the new york times. you know, this is a very tight

race, and it remains a very tight race. i think that it's fascinating to watch the discussion though that's happening, right? you see all these stories being written about the crack in the blue wall and the reasons that brett points out for why that might be. you know, pandering to certain groups. i think the black and hispanic vote is one of the big stories of this election. dana just did a great job outlining the jewish vote in battleground states as well so i think these are sort of the undercurrents but he hits on a lot of the very important points which is lack of specifics. i heard president trump yesterday at an event that said, you know, everyone knows where i stand. i've been standing in the same place for the last 20 years and it's true. if you look back at speeches he gave or interviews he gave 20 years ago he talked about putting america first, you know, security for the country all of the issues he continues to drive home on. i think the authenticity issue is one of her biggest stumbling blocks, because we saw it in the interview last night on msnbc. she will often say things like, i am sincere when i say this. you know?

which separates yourself from your own or this is what i want to focus on, which is, we know she loves strategy and strategy meetings and i think she's bogged down in a lot of that. we don't see the joy she had coming out of that gate. one other point i'd just make is that they have gone through a number of ways of going at trump and i thought we were going to hear a lot more convicted felon talk. we don't hear it. it didn't work obviously. they tested it and it didn't work so they turned through a lot of things while he's handing out french fries at mcgone adlers and getting two days of positive press out of it. stuart: look at politico saying they have a problem calling out harris for failing to offer anything specific about how she governed or would lead the country. this is only two weeks left. is she going to try to run out the clock and reveal no position for the next two weeks? >> she may end up wishing biden had hung in for one more month. because you can only get away for a certain amount of time without really drilling down on what you would do and in these

interviews which are great opportunities for her, she needs to move the ball forward. she needs people to say, you know, she had a good night in that debate against trump and she had a little bit of a pop out of that but you got to build on that. here is how you get to know me better and where i'm taking the country. a positive forceful specific message that she's being too careful and safe on everything. she wants to keep pleasing everybody and it seems like people are having a hard time but i say that, you know, i don't know. these polls could be completely wrong. we've seen that happen a couple of times now, but these polls are still showing a very tight race, so i think that we all just have to kind of sit tight and see where this is going. a couple articles this morning about the transition team for the trump camp. i googled, you know, harris transition. nobody is writing about her transition team which is an interesting indicator as well. stuart: fascinating stuff. you're right in the middle of this. >> we're enjoying every minute of it. stuart: with bret baier. >> i think the country is ready for this election don't you? >> yeah. >> ready to have it lap.

happen. stuart: i think people want a firm result. >> i agree. a decisive result that everybody can walk away from, feeling like they have trust in our election system be a huge win for the country. no matter what happens. stuart: martha we're watching you on the story 3:00 p.m. eastern. >> good to see you both. stuart: check that market again, please. we're letting further south as far as the red ink is concerned. down nearly 300 on the dow and up 127 on the nasdaq. mark tepper with me for the hour. you say bond yields are because they are up, because trump may win. is that the connection you're making? >> interestingly enough if you were to look at a chart of the 10-year treasury yield, and overlay that on top of trump's betting odds of winning, it's almost a perfect correlation. so they are moving in lockstep with one another. what investors are looking at from trump right now is he is viewed by investors as the higher growth candidate. the benign, yet slightly higher

inflation candidate, if you throw in the tariffs, and then therefore, that means higher interest rates for longer. now, on the issue of tariffs, trump is a master negotiator, so of course he's going to say well we'll throw a tariff on everyone but at the end of the day if he's able to level the playing field, and ensure that the american people, workers, consumers, aren't being taken advantage of, i don't think that'll happen. stuart: i'm with you. but look, which sector gets the biggest boost from a trump whip? >> so the most obvious be less regulation would help the banks and financials. it would help the energy sector, fossil fuels, in particular, but i've got to tell you, stu. what i'm looking at right now is small caps overall. so when you look at large-caps, i mean, roughly i think like 44% of the s&p's revenues come from overseas. when you look at small cap stock, it is much more domestically focused. that is america-first. so one of the things we expect to see happen over the course of the next several months should

trump win is that small caps will begin outperforming. stuart: okay got it. you'll stay with me for the hour so stay there, thanks very much. ashley? show me first of all show me novo nordisk down just about 1.2%. what's going on with that company, that stock, ashley? ashley: we know it well don't we? it's the weight loss drugmaker. it is asking the fda to prevent other companies from developing cheaper copycat versions of their wegovy and ozempic injections. they argue that the medications developed are very complex and too complex, in fact, to be made safely. the stock itself down just over about 1.25%. meantime take a look at m-phase, the green energy people. they reported this morning, offered weak guidance also a 30% drop in revenue over the last 12 months. that in turn has led to a series of downgrades from analysts. rbc slashing its price target for instance from 100 bucks to

85. it's atria 80 right now, and down as you can see , 12%. there are also concerns about a drop-off in demand for the company's products in europe. none of that helping the stock today and take a look at aviation, they are the air taxi people. the faa has set rules for them to operate in the united states. it's good news because it lays the groundwork for them to begin actually offering rides in their so-called v tolls, vertical take off and landing. the flights could begin as soon as the vehicles meet the new requirements. i'm not sure i would take it but anyway, it's interesting, stu? stuart: oh, i would. i'll wait and see on that one. very interesting. ashley: thank you. stuart: thanks so much. coming up the administration is accused of covering up the true extent of the migrant crisis. one california official says they are trying to save face before the election. we'll break that down for you. president biden seemed to admit that part of the strategy to defeat donald trump was indeed

lawfare. >> we got to lock him up. >> [applause] >> lock him out is what we have to do. stuart: that's getting a lot of traction i should say, but does harris want this kind of attention on the campaign? bill hemmer will get us into that one and tell us all about it. bill is next. ♪ starting a business is never easy, but starting it eight months pregnant, that's a different story. with the chase ink card, we got up and running in no time. earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase with the chase ink business unlimited card from chase for business.

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campaign is mobilizing christian voters over this. the campaign posted on x, "kamala harris says she does not believe in religious exemptions when it comes to abortion. christians remember this when you go to vote." harris' campaign restoring federal abortion protections after former president trump supreme court picks voted to overturn roe v. wade in an interview on nbc, harris was asked what concessions like religious exemptions for healthcare workers she would offer republicans to secure those protections. >> i don't think we should be making concessions when we're talking about a fundamental freedom to make decisions about your own body. let's start with the fundamental fact. a basic freedom has been taken from the women of america. the freedom to make decisions about their own body, and that can not be negotiable. reporter: also, in that nbc interview, harris was asked whether transgender americans should have access to care. she again said that we should follow the law and pointed to the trump campaign spending tens

of millions of dollars to define her on the issue. >> i'm asking to define yourself though. just broadly speaking what is your value? do you believe they should have that access? >> i believe that people as the law states, even on this issue about federal law, that that is a decision that doctors will make in terms of what is medically necessary. i'm not going to put myself in the position of a doctor. reporter: the vice president friday travels to texas with the harris campaign has defined as ground zero for the fight over abortion rights and an issue she will continue to make on the campaign trail. stuart: rich edson at the white house. thank you, rich. president biden quickly backtracks after making this stunning remark. >> i know this sounds bizarre, and it sounds like i said this five years ago you'd lock me up. we've got to lock him up. >> [applause] >> politically lock him up. >> [applause] >> lock him out is what we have

to do. the decisions we make in a very short span of time to determine what the rest of the next five, six, seven, decades will look like. stuart: the president just confirmed warfare. that is trying to put his political opponent in jail before the election. bill hemmer joins me now. do you think -- >> good day to you. stuart: do you think kamala harris welcomes this kind of help from the president? >> probably not. i thought there were two curious things, number one why you going to new hampshire? i don't get it and understand it. we looked at the polling results thus far. it's a really good governor's race there, a good candidate running against the former mayor of manchester and it's a one-point race. harris meanwhile is leading trump by two points and there's only four polls in new hampshire. stuart: that's it? >> two points is margin of error stuff so that's one thought on this. that set aside. if you're stating that you want to politically lock up the other side, i don't know what that

means. stuart: i didn't pay attention to that part. i paid attention to lock him up. >> i get it but he saved himself a little bit after the applaud. stuart: he tried to. >> just that phrase, "politically lock up" define it. i don't know what that means. stuart: well presumably harris wins. harris must win to lock him out of politics. i guess that's what it is. >> i assume. it's worthy of a follow-up. stuart: i think we shall agree to disagree hemmer but there you are. next one. a new report shows trump and harris have spent a combined $538 million in pennsylvania alone. officially the most expensive battleground state. why is pennsylvania always thought of as the sole must-win state? >> if we're right in these battleground states are what they are and there are seven on the table, pennsylvania has got the biggest, they have the big pile of cash which is something you can understand. they got 19 electoral votes, one

less than they had in 2020. this was very similar to races we watched back in the 2000 when places like florida at 27 electoral votes was the biggest swing state or even ohio at 18 electoral votes back then was considered the biggest swing state. on the wall, on election night, if you've got 19 electoral votes out there, either side that is able to win pennsylvania is going to have an easier path to the white house. the second thing i would add, you mentioned the money. there is a big senate race happening right now. bob mccormick is the republican running against dave mccormick against bob casey the democrat. casey has a long family name in that state. he's won several terms in pennsylvania and just this past week, the cook political report took that senate race and moved it from dem to a toss-up so that's another reason why you get the hundreds of millions of dollars you're spending in pennsylvania now.

stuart: the harris campaign is going on a bus tour of red states this week. they will be talking about abortion, florida, kentucky, and texas is where they are going, tour of the red states. the trump campaign, they did a blue state tour, focusing on immigration and the economy. which is more effective in your opinion? >> my sense is is that if there's a secret vote on november 5, it's going to come from women. it's going to come in places you may not expect. even if abortion is not on the ballot. that is what my hunch tells me as of right now. conversely, for trump. he's winning a lot of these news events. the drive-thru in mcdonald's. stuart: brilliant. >> harris is going to houston to talk about abortion on friday. we'll see what kind of play that gets and then trump comes back on sunday at madison square garden. world's most famous arena. i know for a fact that his campaign going six months ago when they were going through

these court cases in new york, they had their eye on madison square garden. the problem at the time was that it's very expensive to get , to maintain for the campaign, to go ahead and pay the money. apparently they feel comfortable enough to spend the money now and they will lay that down nine days before they vote. stuart: he's coming to the belly of the beast. fill the garden probably. >> he will fill the garden in the inside. i'm wondering about what happens on the streets outside? you don't think all of those folks in brooklyn and williamsberg take the f train to manhattan to show a sign of protest against donald trump? figuratively speaking manhattan will be on fire on sunday and i'm not just talking about the jets. stuart: all those yuppies on the upper west side do you think they come down to protest trump? >> i didn't say the yuppies from the upper west side. stuart: you got it wrong. you're talking about the bronx first, and you're wrong. i've got a lot of supporters out there.

bill you're so wrong on so many things i'm surprised. >> [laughter] stuart: but welcome to the show. >> good to be with you always. stuart: now this. open a.i. that's the chatgpt guys, they just named their first chief economist. all right who is it, ash? ashley: yeah, it's former white house official aaron chattergy. he is as you say open a.i.'s first chief economist to lead research on the impact of artificial intelligence on the economy. in particular a.i.'s potential effects on economic growth, infrastructure, and longer term labor market trends and he's also been a professor of business and public policy at duke university, chief economist of the department of commerce under president biden and he served as a senior economic adp advisor for former president obama. it hired former uber executive scott schools as chief compliance officer. all of this as part of the company's recent executive

shake-ups and organizational changes. there you have it. more moves in the a.i. world, stu? stuart: a little turmoil right now. ash thanks very much. tepper, what do you make of all of this? >> this is a guy who advised the biden-harris administration on dropping helicopters full of money on to the american consumer and leading run-away inflation to the highest level we've seen since the 70s. i may have picked somebody else to help look at the economic impact of artificial intelligence, whether it's going to destroy jobs, create jobs, maybe someone with a better track record. stuart: got it. thanks, mark. let's get to a check on djt, that's trump media. often viewed as a bell weather of the trump campaign. the markets by the way are heavily in favor of a trump win, and that's reflected in today's price, up another 4%. now look what its done over the past 12 months. you see the curve on the end there? its just beginning to really turn up in the last month.

that's djt as a proxy for voting for trump. coming up, early voting has started in georgia and the secretary of state says they've already seen record turnout. we'll bring you the numbers from the peach state. chris cuomo is calling out democrats shielding kamala harris from any criticism. >> kamala harris is not a godsend, all right? you people didn't even like her six months ago. this idea of don't say anything bad about her because of trump i don't buy that. i don't buy that. stuart: will kamala harris be able to coast through to election day? the new york post jon levine takes it on, next. ♪

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stuart: on the markets this morning the dow is down close to 400 points and the nasdaq is down well over 200. a lot of this has to do with rising interest rates. the 10-year treasury going above 4.25%. mark tepper is still with us looking at particular stock picks. start off with kinder morgan, the energy people.

that's right so this is a natural gas play and stu we've been talking over the last several months maybe a year-plus about artificial intelligence and the need for energy and the need for data center and i talked about data center reits, but natural gas is a very affordable way to provide power to these data centers for artificial intelligence. that's why we like these guys, 4.6% dividend yields pretty nice to pocket along the way and this is the kind of company that will definitely be a beneficiary if trump wins the presidency, more on fossil fuels. stuart: if harris wins? >> might not look as good, yeah. stuart: now what's this , your other pick is establishment labs holdings. >> yeah, not one that a lot of people talk about. it's about $1 billion small cap company. they are in the breast augmentation business so they just had a new motiva implant approved about a month ago and it generates less inflammation,

much faster recovery and there was actually an article about it in the new york post two days ago where somebody went in and had surgery and out to dinner later that night. beyond that, they have a groundbreaking procedure that's already available overseas, not quite approved here yet in the us, that does a breast implant surgery in 15 minutes, under local anesthesia, and you're out and about after 15 minutes. pretty remarkable. the things that are happening in medicine nowadays. stuart: establishment labs holdings, got it. all right thank you, mark. back to the election. one in four voters have already cast their ballots. this is in georgia. jonathan seri is in decatur for us. that's got to be some kind of record isn't it? reporter: yeah, it is indeed, in fact the secretary of state's office is bragging this morning that they are essentially setting records every day. we're talking about 1.9 million voters so far.

>> by lunch, we should cross the incredible hallmark of 2 million voters casting their ballots already. this is proof in georgia. it's easy to vote and hard to cheat. reporter: knowing whose casting these early ballots and where can help the campaigns tweak their ground games but it's challenging to figure out whose ahead here in georgia because the state has an open primary system and does not register voters by party. >> people are going to pay attention to if you have access to the voter files and people's prior voter history, other types of ballots some people may have pulled in primaries but not everybody participates in primaries so that's an inexact science. reporter: the georgia supreme court rejected efforts to immediately reinstate new election rules passed by the republican controlled state election board. lower carts rejected board policies that would have required poll workers to conduct a hand could you bw on election

night to verify the number of ballots received, and also, requiring county election officials to conduct a "reasonable inquiry before certifying the results." even some republican election officials were concerned that changing the rules this late in the game would confuse voters. those new roles are still going through appeals in the court system but they will not be in play during this particular election cycle. stuart: jonathan seri, thanks very much. chris cuomo blasted harris supporters for trying to protect her from criticism. >> kamala harris is not a godsend, all right? you people didn't even like her six months ago. now all of a sudden she's black female jesus. the way obama was black jesus and let me tell you something. he had a lot more going for him than kamala harris does. this idea of don't say anything bad about her because trump. i don't buy that. i don't buy that, and it's not how you get to a better place.

it's a relative assessment. stuart: well, tell it how it is. jon levine joins us this morning. do you think harris can avoid defining her policies for another two weeks, just run out the clock? >> i don't think she has a lot of good options. i think her policies if she defined be grossly unpopular so i don't think said knows what she believes on a lot of issues she's all over the map on everything and fracking and do we want to perform gender reassignment surgeries for inmates? even the lobbyists can't say where she is, so she's running sort of a he's the worst person in the world, you have to pick me because he's horrible but that reminds me of hillary clinton. look at what he said. how can our children and it was never about her, and it clearly didn't work for her and i don't think it works for kamala harris. stuart: she's not really on the campaign trail all that much is she? >> she's not in the basement physically bus she might as well be. she only gives very very safe interviews. obviously she did bret baier but that's it. you'll never see her on fox

again and you just, she's joining a very very safe campaign and she can't afford to run a safe campaign. she needs to expand her coalition and i will say the one thing democrats have, they are very talented at is voter turnout. when you see the numbers in georgia, democratic voter turnout machines are sophisticated. i've seen it in new york state and new york city when they need to get people to the polls like the governor's race and you'll see margins in places like philadelphia that are like north korea for democrats. because they are very very good at getting their people out and no nursing home will be left untapped. stuart: philadelphia is famous for that. that's true. well you're our new york guy and the new york police department has new data and it shows the number of young people accused of serious crimes has increased what? 37% in the last seven years. what is going on in this city? will we ever get truly serious about fixing crime? >> well the short answer to your last question is no. we're never going to get serious about fixing crime as long as we

have the current leaders in place but to the issue of spikes in crime among younger people, i think an under-discussed part of that the pandemic and the coronavirus pandemic and you have a lot of the teenagers that spent their years in lockdown and they couldn't go to school and socialize with people and they come out of the and and are less adjusted to society, can't read and write, they were already behind in test scores before the pandemic, and they just have fewer opportunities, there's less they can do. they are less adjusted and many will turn to crime because they have no other options and this was something we forced on them, there was no medical reason to do it. we did it because the teacher's unions demanded it because they wanted to work in their pajamas, remote learning was a failure, we all know that and i worry. we've kind of cemented a generation of criminals because they just, they were mal-adjusted during the pandemic. stuart: i have great faith new york city will make a come back. i just don't know when. it'll take a very long time. jon levine, new york post thanks

for joining us. coming up trump is telling voters if you want america to look like california, go ahead and vote for harris. >> she, as the attorney general, helped destroy the state of california. she destroyed probably the best, maybe the best city in the world. stuart: we'll bring you more of trump's scathing remarks on harris' record. the cdc says there's an outbreak of e-coli linked to mcdonald's quarter powders and what do you do if you get sick? that's next.

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stuart: all right now the dow is now down 340 points, the nasdaq is down 200, the s&p is down 40. the nasdaq we're talking in percentage terms down 1.06%. so show me interest rates.

first of all, the 10-year treasury, it has been above 4.2% for three straight days. it's at the highest level its been in three months and that is a big problem for the stock market. show me the two-year which is also at a nine-week high moving firmly above 4%%, 4.06. take me to mcdonald's, please, where donald trump took over as a fry cook. that one he worked "is being inundated with reviews on yelp. what are people saying, ashley? ashley: fun with it. the yelp site saw an influx of comments describing trump's criminal convictions, his demeanor, and customer service skills along with one star reviews for that particular mcdonald's in pennsylvania. one reviewer said, "the fries were too salty" as if someone who lost a major election had been crying over them for an hour, i guess that's

clever but another wrote"the best mcdonald's i've ever been to in 47 years, the older employee was extremely nice. make mcdonald's great again, bring back the dollar menu" there you go. more than 145 reviews were already posted before yelp paused the commenting using its unusual activity alert. the company later explaining that for yelp to remain a useful resource reviews must be based on a genuine first-hand experience with the business but people took the opportunity to take some shots. stu? stuart: they did, thanks, ash. look at mcdonald's stock. it is, that's the treasury, show me the stock, please. the stock is down, 4.5%. there's an outbreak of e-coli that has been linked to macdonald's quarter pounders. dr. frank contesessa join us now. what are the symptoms of e-coli? >> so this type of infection,

it's gastrointestinal, stomach cramps, nausea, vomiting, fever and diarrhea and it can be dangerous in people who are elderly, sick, young. the vast majority of people are going to be okay even if you get this infection you'll be sick for four, five days and get better, but it's the very old, the very young, the very sick. there's been one death linked to this outbreak of an older person, probably immunocompromisedded and a couple dozen people hospitalized. one child had something called hus, and it's a rare, but potentially very serious effect from e-coli. stuart: what's the treatment? >> honestly it's fluids and just supportive care and usually self-resolves, within four to five days or so, so kind of just have to keep them going and hydrated and usually just gets better on its own. you don't load with antibiotics. it just passes. stuart: can you tell us how it gets into the food chain? >> so in this case, it looks

like it came from, it seemed to have narrowed it down to the an yononions on the quarter pou, didn't affect the big mac and it seems to be from the onions and comes from the facility that processes these things so from a farm, the onions get picked and usually contaminated at the processing center and that gets distributed out. in general this is probably another reason to keep your fast food intake to a minimum, it should be a rare treat and not something you eat all the time. stuart: pfizer has received fda approval for its rsv vaccine. this is the first-of-its-kind vaccine for people under 50. under what circumstances would you recommend this for your patients? >> this is a good question. you're hearing more about rsv now. its been around forever. this is not a new illness. most people had it three or four times. it causes maybe 20% of most common colds, so a lot of the common colds that you've had may have been rsv so there's all

these new vaccines now and the new change that just came this week from the fda is that this particular pfizer vaccine which was only approved for older people before is now approved for younger people but in a high-risk category so this is not recommended for the average healthy younger person but from 18-65 if you have serious health immunocompromisedded it be considered. these are new, so sort of withholding judgment until there's independent data. the only data available comes from the pharmaceutical company which, you know, can be suspect of course. so average young person, you don't need this vaccine. stuart: got it. that's conclusive. dr. frank, thanks for joining us. >> thank you, stuart. stuart: i want to see the dow 30. we're seeing a lot of red and i see eight winners and 22 losers. that's the state of play. a county supervisor in san diego

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stuart: an official in san diego says the federal government is busing and flying illegal migrants caught at the border out of california instead of releasing them on to the street. san diego county supervisor jim desmond joins me now. jim? why are they doing this? >> well, to me, i just think they don't want to have this right before the election to have more street drop-offs in san diego county so reverse those optics they are flying them out to texas and they are doing the same things that they blamed governor abbott and governor, i'm sorry, from florida, for doing the same thing. stuart: you mean, they don't want to see a large group of migrants on the street in san diego. a big group, all at one-time.

that's what they are afraid of. >> yeah, the optics of that and quite frankly we're not upset they aren't dropping them off here. we were fold that they were going to start dropping them off last week and then, there's been a reversal and now they are taking them out of the area and primarily because the san diego sector of the border is over-capacity so we've got way too many people coming across that they can even manage here in california and so what they had done in the past is done street drop-offs, so now there's about three buses per day and three or four flights per week taking people out of san diego and out to other areas and to me they are just hiding the ball here right before the election. stuart: whose paying for all of this? >> well you are. i mean, we are. taxpayers are paying for all of this. they've been paying for , you know, all of these buses, paying for the flights, and it's really unfortunate and i think, you know, this is just hiding what's really going on right before

the election. stuart: i'm sorry to keep it so short, jim, but that is fascinating. come back and see us soon please with an update. we're very interested. jim desmond, thank you, sir. staying on the formerly golden state, donald trump is going after kamala harris saying she's the cause of california's problems. take us through it, ash. ashley: all of this happened at a round table of latino leaders in south florida. trump taking the opportunity to attack kamala harris' record on crime, saying overall, california primary example of failed democrat policies. listen to this. >> look at the case of los angeles in california. they have brown-outs and black-outs all the time and they want to go all-electric. they don't have enough electric for themselves. she, as the attorney general, helped destroy the state of california. she destroyed probably the best, maybe the best city in the world. i mean, san francisco was one of the greatest cities.

ashley: it was. trump also says polls have limb leading in florida gaming more ground among hispanics but analysts say he will have a tough time winning miami-dade county. president george h. w. bush was the last republican to win back in 1988 stu. stuart: mark tepper is still with me. do you blame harris for california's problems? >> not all at her hand, but i mean, she was a major player in the political party whether it's prosecutor, attorney general, senator, that over-regulated, over-taxed, turned a blind eye to crime, forced her green agenda on the residents there, and eventually, what happened, is you saw businesses, large corporations, get fed up and leave the state. relocate to more business-friendly places like texas or florida. stuart: i used to live in san francisco in the 1970s for five years i lived there wonderful city.

>> it was a great city 20 years ago. stuart: it was but not now in my opinion. tepper thank you very much indeed. here we go it's the wednesday trivia question. when was the first amazon delivery? 1990, 1992, 1995 or 1997? we'll have the answer for you after this.

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stuart: i thought this was a good question. when was the first amazon delivery? you've got to think carefully because it has to be after the internet became common. >> after our goal or invented it. stuart: 1990, 1992, 1995, 1997. returning to you. ashley: i'm trying to remember where i was during those years and can i remember amazon, 1995. stuart: your next. >> i was thinking earlier but i will go 1992. stuart: not sure the internet

was developed by then but needed the internet to order books online. i remember interviewing jeff baeza's in 1997. he laughed and laughed and laughed all the way through, he would always laugh at whatever you asked him and that was 1997 so i'm going to say 1995. yes. april 3rd, 1995, john wainwright placed the first order for a book on amazon. he did it at the behest of his friend who worked at the company. there's a building named after mr. wainwright. very good question. thanks for being with us. i am sure we will see you tomorrow. right now we see neil and here he is.