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defense. senator eric schmitt congressman jim jordan will talk about it. but first up president trump has broken back of traditional democratic coalition. that is subject of the riff. with 13 days to go until eel also day. there is one thing that has very clear. donald trump has broken back of traditional democratic coalition. this may not be all together new news. anyone following rate can see, mr. trump has invaded democratic turf for middle class working folks, unions, blacks, hispanics, young, catholics and jews, i see references among liberal punditry that kamala harris has two weeks to pull it back together again. two weeks away too short a period of time. trump's break up of the old democratic coalition
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actually began many years ago. when he first ran for president, and it has ebbed and flowed since. righright now looks well -- to be reaching high tide, no one knows who'll carry blue wall but mr. trump never had better numbers in those industrial states pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan. no one knows who'll carry sunbelt, he had better numbers in north carolina, georgia, arizona or nevada. this is because he has fractured the traditional democratic base. right now kamala harris playing defense. mr. trump, playing offense. he is encroaching, she is defending. and a combination. economy, the open border, and it is the culture. mr. trump beats biden by roughly 7 po 1 for median take home pay, 10 to 1 among
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hispanics, asians and whites and 2 to 1 among blacks, during biden-harris term, inflation was 3 times what it was under mr. trump. illegal immigration, during the biden-harris years increased 515% in the 7 swing states. and regrettably big jump in violent crime followed that explosion of illegal immigration. and the break up of the democratic coalition economic or open borders, it has to do with culture. traditional, middle class folks, no matter what color, do not like radical woke culture mandated by biden-harris administration. teamsters and uaw members are for trump they believe he will protect them from unfair global competition and crime wave from open southern border but they
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don't like biological men competing in women's sports they don't like free gender surgeries for prisoners or gender operations for kids without parental approval. american's working class is is a fended by the biden-harris -- is offended by biden-harris cancel culture as they are depleted by lack of economy progress. and they do not want their religion mocked or insulted ever, we have 13 days to go. we don't need final vote, we don't know. but we know that donald trump has been redefining and remaking the republican party in to its biggest tent ever. but democratic coalition, under kamala harris, is so badly frayed it probably will never likely be the same again. that is the riff. all right. joining us now to chew on
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this and other things, we welcome back missouri senatorrer -- eric schmitt, ohio c c congressman jim jordan. >> thank you. larry: i don't know what outcome is, no one knows, but my point about coalition being frayed, hopelessly frayed, broken up, trump is on offense, kamala on defense, they are political generalizations, what do you think of them, sir? >> yeah, i think that through leadership of president trump, republican party is a multiethnic working class party that is a good thing, helping to disrupt coalition of democrats, it is pro voiding providing hope and opportunity to more people, they electric at product let at border and high inflation, we did not have those problems under trump. president trump has ability to run on a record,
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regardless of scare tactics and kamala harris is running away from her record, no matter what they throw at him. it will problem get a uglier in two weeks people go to polling booth, they will ask themselves am i better off now than i was 4 years ago. president trump is viewed add change candidate. larry: interesting, mr. trump is ghoii going back to that language. i think he started saying it. yesterday or day before, jim jordan welcome back. you are in the industrial midwest, you are both. but point is, i am looking at union members. we were on another show, another segment. and uawmember says how trump will carry 67% of the uaw, teamsters my have not endorsed from top, but he will win big.
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one area that democratic coalition is badly frayed i think is in unions, drusm trump will win a huge volume of union vote, trump may carry percentage. majority. >> we're a new party under president trump that happened over last 8 or 9 years we're a populist party rooted in competitive principle -- in conservative principle, we're getting something we very seldom get in american politics back-to-back administrations now running for top job, you can do comparison, i say, under president trump we had a secure border and biden-harris no border, urge president trump safe streets and biden-harris record crime, and gas, and c commander in chief who --
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strength. wages were up for union workers, nonworkers, all workers, that is what is sinking in with people. we're now a populous party rooted in conservative principles in the constitution which we always should have been. larry: black and hispanic wages went up under trump, not under biden, barely. abovpoverty fell significantly, those are things that i think have a lot to do, not about blacks or may not like to vote for a woman, as opp -- obama said suggesting misogyny, it has to do with the economy. to culture in a moment. you l look at economic statistics. we just outlined a couple of them, but unemployment went down, and property went
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down, and take home pay went up, that -- that is powerful stuff, if you are working, those are benchmarks, the yard sticks but opportunities have not been there in last almost 4 years, that is a big -- tell of this campaign. that is the reason that the democratic coalition is falling apart, i should think. >> yeah, there two in innes capable realities, when the family go to grocery store they are hit with the sticker shock every week, this is on going crisis, harder and harder for families to make ends meet, not like inflation is not an act of god there is a formula for it, when you spend a bunch of money you don't have and declare war on dommest i domestic energy production price of everything goes up,
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there are a lot of problem with the people who have come here illegally. also, undermines wages of working class individuals, they see it in their communities, they know people are being paid under the table, they are collecting. benefits of 130 thousand a year in new york city. people see it, they don't like it democrats have embraced it but it is not working for real people. larry: jim jordan on top of the economy stuff you have open border. you have crime factor. i don't care who you are, white, black, brown. you don't like crime, you don't want your kids going to school in a high crime area, a lot of crime is random, a lot is imported from venezuela, and the south of border we know that crime -- you know, i am not saying it a sleeper but i think crime almost under
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rated. we think of election as the economy and the border, but going with that, is the crime factor, and you know, regardless of the abc news fact phony checkers, the fbi numbers show that violent crime has gone up significantly jim jordan that has to be factor in the break up of this democratic coalition. >> yeah. yeah, i think it is, i think as senator eric schmitt talks about immigration and border security issue, you mentioned they are coming together, some of the migrant come in we had a hearing on this, where we had moms talk about a migrant who came to the country did something terrible to their son or daughter. and it was a powerful hearing those issues are coming together, americans understand you need a commander in chief who will secure border and a government protect you from ram rampant crime on
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the street that we've seen increase in. i think it is key issue, and why president trump is ticking up in every single poll particularly 7 swing state polls and every data point moving in his direction. this country has common sense, they figured it out. larry: you know, senator eric schmitt, i think that culture plays a role and a couple important parts to, that a lot of rel religious people, christians, catholics, others have been mocked and insulted by kamala harris. you know, by the governor of michigan, gretchen whitmer with that dorito for holy communion, and not showing up at al smith din n dinner in new york, and screaming to person that was
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talked about jesus and she said you are on the at wrong rally, that taking a toll. middle class guess what, they don't think that biological mails males should play in women's sports, i think the cull cultural issues are creeping under the door and rearring there are heads part of the break up of democratic coalition. >> if you want to understand why states like missouri and ohio are now bright rid, the cultural issues have a lot to do with that, i am catholic, in is large percentage of catholic and whitmer had no problem of ridiculing a holy sacrament. on heels of barack obama claiming people in my my fly over country cling to guns and r religion, there is
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such a disdain for people wof b. >> they are losing people, you add that on on top of these things, it is where democrats are really, desperate here. larry: so, you add it up, polls are not votes. we have 13 days to go. but it is undeniable trump on offense, kamala on defense. trump is encroached to traditional democratic coalition, he started this years ago, i think he is moving toward high tide, and i think i'll say something that is goofy, i think he ising having more fun than she is, i don't think that kamala is having fun. i feel for her, i feel her pain on the campaign trail, she does not look like a
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happy camper. >> yeah, it is -- he is having more fun that thing at mcdonald's was unbelievable, i talked to him yesterday about it one of largest viewed googled things ever, that is president trump, we have been around him that is his personality, he engages with people, a way about him that everyone when you around him you like him, i wish everyone could spend time with him, he is having fun, i think he knows he is going to win, i like -- because i think jd vance said he will take common since of american people over thics pertd -- experts every time, common sense said we like that guy who kept us at stable prices, and protects us at border we understand its it is coming forward, 13 more days, let's keep working hard, i learned a long time going hard work
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does not guarantee success but it improves your chances. >> i got one more for you. i heard that both of you, were up in arms that leyna kahn, head of federal trade commission was campaigning, i want to ask you. why are you complaining? i think having leyna kahn out there is a plus, for the trump ticket and republican party. she is a one man wrecking crew, she wants to basically, a menace to american businesslike liz cheney of the ftc. under leyna kahn. linea kahn i don't know her first name, leyna kahn, federal trade commission, and the justice department, 43% of the s&p 500 market caps, almost half of the stock market cap, is now
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under federal tread commission and justice department ai antitrust investigation, a who's who of business. bank of america, meta, apple, master card, visa, coca-cola, she say weapon, a menace, unleash her, put her out there, she will turn offer person who has a job in business anywhere in america. you are going after the wrong person. >> you might be right larry, it filings like more they put their people out there, whether it tim walz or kamala harris not only like this death loop, the more she talks more people bone don't like her, follow-up on something jim said, i think that most important thing you can have
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in politics is a the authenticity, that is the issue, president trump actually likes mcdonald's. this is part of him doing that, that was real. people can identify with that, she guess out there and lies about her positions it seems so fake and phony, american people can see that, that something playing into numbers. >> kamala on one of the liberal shows today, talking about the need for more amnesty. as far as open border. she is playing her cards wrong, we have covered a lost ground, you are kind to do it. good luck on campaign trail senator eric schmitt, congressman jim jordan. coming up. bond rates are way up. and stock markets have been falling, day after day. it is because the fed made a huge mistake. juicing up the economy. to try to reelect kamala,
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less lag, better gaming! i'm gonna need to charge you for three people. larry: bond rates soars stocking falling lydia hu what is cooking. reporter: we're watching the investors adjust their expectations on possible high are rates for longer. -- higher rates for longer not what they were expecting, today markets are on edge and yield in 10 year take a jump. looking big tech leading, pullback today, here, dow down by 409, nazdaq pulling back 296. and sep s&p 500 down by 53. we're seeing strong economic data come in since september, most recent jobs report, showed more jobs added than expected and inflation mostly cooling, we
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did see an s an acceleration in core inflation, the economic picture of generally growth without sky-high inflation, that is forcing investors to lower expectations for a post election cut after we got the jumbo cut last month. some questioning whether that first great cuts was appropriate and slamming door shut on another j 50 bases cut now, fed fund future with 90% of a quarter cut. all of this as you mentioned forcing a repricing in bond market, investors, preparing for high are rates for longer -- higher rates for longer, yield on 10 year, highest levels since summer, 10 year at 4.244. two year coming in. at 4.089. all of this could mean
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higher borrowing costings for you at home. let's check out quickly dj it stock, interesting this is the owner of truth social, a barometer of market feeling about donald trump elect pill tie higher today, but in past month. high are by 188%. -- higher by 188%. >> hot times lydia hu. here. in river city, thank you for that run down. joining us now john carney, economic editor for breitbart news. and scott bessent. founder of key square group. welcome to you. john carney this is fed bungle. come on. this is a revolt of the bond vigilantes that 10 years gone almost up 75 bases
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points since the fed had that jumbo rate cut, now bond rates are actual pulling stocks down, fed looks like a damn fool, i am sorry. >> they repealedded federate cut. market saying to fed, you did not wrong thing. and -- you did the wrong thing, this is not going away, they think they will cut. in november. but that december cut will come out of market soon, people will see numbers still. larry: iffy this they cut in november. if they cut in november there is no reason bond rates won't go up more, they are feeding to inflationary expectations, we do not have a sl collapsing economy. the fed bungled this, they should acknowledge it, either that or if mr. trump
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wins j. powell should resign that is my view. >> larry, if -- >> if? >> if somehow the next move is a hike. j. powell should resign. >> rate hike. >> you know, i can't tell you, i think my most successful strategy this year, they have this so-called dot plot they come out and signal what the path of rates will be and cuts will be, if has been wrong every time, so, beginning of year, at one point last november's pricing 5 cuts. then beginning of year three. then they got some religion in june it was 1, then. this weakened this summer they came back this time 3, there jumbo rate cut, i said it the day it happened, inappropriate. and j. powell, there is a study that shows people who have fallen, keep look do
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you think at their feet. that makes them fall more, j. powell keeps looking at his feet he let great inflation happen now he is terrified there will know a recession, what happens if we get this recursive inflation like the 60s and 70s. >> scott is right, economy estimates by fed is wrong. he was overly exuberantly dovish to fed jackson hole meeting in august that is first surprise. then the september jumbo rate cut, but rhe rhetoric even in settlement, you smelled a rat way back in august, i don't think that fed knows more than we did, and with their poor models they know less.
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>> mary daily said to "wall street journal" yesterday she saw no new information that would mean that fed should slowdown cuts, san francisco fed head said no new information, they are blind. everyone in market sees, that it was a mistake, that they need to slow down the cuts, at very least, and next move. could well be up. , and i agree, if it is up, powell has got to go. larry: interesting point by -- >> up and out. larry: scott you have written a good' ed piece for the economist, world trading system is broken in a word. as you point out. and hopes on the economic and national security front have not been rely realize particularly in area
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of china what do you make of that. we're not solving it all today, you have a couple thoughts. >> larry, free trade has become unfair trade. more and more working class whether americans or europeans, even south americans, are rebelling again free trade, and you know, doors get slammed if we don't fix this system, medicine or biology, what the worst condition, a mutation. right now we have a mutation of this system that is not working. china is the most i'm pli'm balanced country, they are exporting to us, donald trump has a solution, it is reciprocal tariffs, you the great art laffer told me, donald trump is a free trader. at the end of the day, it a strategy escalate to deescalate. larry: i say to people,
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reciprocity is new free trade, you point it out in the article, if u.s. is running a free market economy, less no now than 4 years -- ago, we're relatively speaking, a free market economy. with a low average tariff rate of about 2% plus. china is not a free market economy. india is not. and they have tariff rates that are 3 or 5 times size of ours, so therefore, traditional free said economy does not work, you don't have equivalence between the trading countries. >> you are right, we're having problem with working within u.s., california, is really upset with what is happening in the red states, texas, florida, everyone is moving there. industry is taken off the rred state economies are great, in new york, california people are
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leaving imagine imposing some kind of sim similarity or versus china, even our european trading partners, germans have a lower propensity to consume, and allies in japan they like a weak yen that sits up unfair trading environment. larry: i have to get out, important points we'll have a back as we do. and deal with this, i know you are in basic agreement with this point of view. anyway john carney, scott bess e bessent thank you. >> can elon musk and his small government free market message flip pennsylvania for trump? flip a bunch of states for trump, flip trump into white house. larry: liz peek, caroline downey and jackie deangelis coming up.
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level of waste that happens, if you talk to people in government, they agree. this very wasteful and inefficient. i'm like why not do something about it. and but really, to do something about it, it has to be a mandate from the top, the system will fight you, not like oh, yeah, totally we're totaly happy being smaller. so, you have to have that mandate from the president. we need a real president, not a puppet. you know. [applause] larry: boy he is getting good at that. anyway joining us now liz peek, fox news contributor, caroline downey, and jackie deangelis. co-host of the big money show on fox business. thank you. liz peek, you know he is so art articulate his messaging about deregulation and shrinking government is important it adds credence
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to president trump, but, he is a . poli litt political force of his own, reading various columnists and reporters saying he may be deciding sci signal to carry trump and mccormick in pennsylvania. >> let us imagine a more popular message than we want to shrink federal government, i can't come up with one. who could do it better than elon musk in everything that man has tried do he has acomp blu accomplished, not like someone we have to reform this, this is a big picture. he operating in big pictures, i think we talked about it, this is most exciting thing coming out of this pai campaign for me, i want this happen, i am trump in there getting elon musk involved. i think it could bear fruit for american people. larry: we had l lutnick on
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the other night, talking about shrinking government and cutting spending and getting rid of unnecessary regulations, caroline, i know they are complicated times and campaigns and whatnot. but he is standing out, elon musk has become almost a greater than life if youing larger than life character. who i think it moved from an actual political force. that is what i'm getting at. >> democrats always had an advantage with celebrity capital, hollywood figures in the bag, that was a frum infrastructure, we never had anything, even billionaires on democrat side, elon musk is richest man in the world, he is supporting donald trump think about what kind of weight that carries in this race, and i'll add there is skeptics on right about tulsi gabbard, rfk jr.s and elon musk
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joining our camp, he is advocates for fiscal responsibility to cut size of government, we're all keynesians now, i thought fiscal responsibility was dead, it is not to elon musk, old school republicans, may be fine it attractive. larry: giving a lot of credence to president trump on that very subject. that some people think he lacked. jackie, continuing this on your great show we had today. that democratic coalition is fraying, trump is busting right through it he is playing offense, they are playing defense, i'm reading now i saw a column in "wall street journal," kamala harris has to do it in last two weeks, she is doing nothing, she will be lucky to survivor. this -- i don't know who will win. but i'm saying politics never will be the same. trump has justin saided democratic -- in invaded democratic party and broke coalition. >> i agree, it might have been a surprise for him they would take biden out and put
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kamala in, but high stayed course and thought about his own path did not get distracted with what they were doing here, he laid out his policy he is at mcdonald's window, he is going on with joe rogan, they are freeways of drumming up publicity for himself, and showing a different side of him. in 2020 they didn't love him but they are seeing something different, they have distaste in their mouth for last 4 years people are ready and open, he is using this last stretch, like i study for bar exam, last two days my teacher said study, then go watch a movie. and that is kind of what he is doing, just talking to people getting out there, i think it is was -- i don't know either. but i think activity rail br brilliantly played. >> did you they because kamala could not pass the bar exam, just sc clarifying. liz peek, you are writing we
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talk about economy, but the immigration open borders and the crime that goes with it is huge in breaking through this, old democratic coalition. >> it his best pitch, it has to do with the economy, crime and problems in big cities little towns everyona think isryangry about open borders, including hispanics. this is the unifying message of the this campaign. so, by the way no one is thinking about 4 more years of kamala harris, 4 more yoryears of an open border no one talking about, that what is to prevent her from doe together again. larry: he was talking amnesty to a liberal show today, we have to be humane. that means let them all in that is premise of their first bill, she talked about with bret baier. that was amnesty bill. a citizenship bill for 10 or
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15 million illegals. >> it was the right about a path to citizenship almost nothing in first bill about securing the border. larry: caroline back also, economy immigration. culture. religion. democrats making all wrong moves, the democratic base was a catholic base, a christian base. it was a traditional middle class family oriented base. it was not about trans men and in women's sports not about mocking the eucharist and taking taking. >> you have seen viral ad over social media, they for they them, i for you. that is donald trump's message.
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it is a convergence of all of them, coddling criminals. that is what she wants to do accommodating them with sex change surgeries and open borders that is why there is illegal aliens she is offers procedures, to majority of americans rejecting gender ideology generally but especially -- it is too radical for most americans. larry: pow a lot of it off of taxpayer dole, and excluding parents from there decision, that is remarkable. it is. i am sorry, we have to jump, liz peek and caroline downey and jackie deangelis, thank you. >> you can catch jackie and her co-host brian brenberg taylor riggs on big money show, right here on fabulous fox business. coming up. i love this story, liberals
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larry: goldman sachs economics department and rest of company, they are my favorite wall street liberals, they are running away from kamala harris as fast as they can. add their motorbikes and bentleys can go. here is con call the chronicle story, ph fox news senior correspondent, charlie gasparino. author of go woke go broke. >> they are woke. so, i bet david solomon takes a bike to work. larry: i know david, we were both partner at bear stearns a long time ago, a wokey firm, economic department is ultra liberal. >> juan hate -- >> it is not juan it is it is interesting out there they made a forecast, it did
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slightly show that they kamala harris had a better economy plan than trump, she ran with it, they didn't say anything, charlie, for some reasons, in the last week or 10 days, they have renounced it they no, we didn't mean that economy report to support her that is why i said, liberals on wall street are running for hills because trump is winning with momentum and they are scared to death. >> i don't want to say trump is winning, he has momentum. but, here is what i would say, it is indicative of bank, they had a debate, i write about this about chick-fil-a whether it is gender bias to eat there because the guy who around chchik-fil-a is a christian, jame jamie dimon doing same thing, i thinked that jamie dimon telling he is leaning
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heard harris, times comes out and follow ti say we had it first, i get e-mail from someone close to ja jamie dimon, i want you to know jamie dimon is not join anything administration. larry: past 4 days. >> past day. larry: oh. -- now why is that? >> is this another guy who sees handwriting on the wall. >> they know donald trump is not forgetting if you go out there and, in the homestretch, and he wins, he is your regulator, banks are highly regulated. larry: we don't know that mr. trump will win, but we know it is close. we know that trump is closed the gap in polls, but i'm saying. looking at the hedging their bets all of a sudden, goldman sachs liberals running for hills, ja jamie dimon. >> running for the -- taking their bikes. >> i thought they took their
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bentleys it is goldman sachs. >> or teslas or whatever. larry: that happened too bill gates? he gave 50 million to kamala harris. bill gates? missed it. >> he is -- the whole woke ceo crew is just bizarre, i will say, if they think that they will be woke if trump gets elected, i will say, they have another thing coming, they will try to dismantle from sec from justice department from. and ftc, en entire woke corporate apparatus will try to go after it they are committed to it, watch out bill gates watch out david solomon and jamie dimon i love you stop giving to human rights campaign. larry: what is that sound, motorbikes running for kills, charlie gasparino the best of the best, i love that go woke go broke.
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