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article on the gilded age and william mckinley who trump referenced a lot of times as he pitches the use of tariffs, the article takes pains to admit mckinley created a system that put the gop in power for decades but dismissed a chance the trump could do the same because they are leaving him and going with the democrats, the american public thinks trump can deliver economic fairness and if he wins by more than he expects, he will have a mandate for major change, no doubt that the establishment which includes folks from both sides of the i would attempt to block every move but it will be harder. if there's a second term, in the first term, a lot of people were part of the swamp, can't drain it with the folks who take it in place but bring in elon musk and a few others in this time could be different. i say that as i handed over to liz claman. liz: we kick off the final hour
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of trade, keep your eye on the s&p and nasdaq to mark official new all-time highs. the s&p needs 41 points, the nasdaq has to end the session with an 80 point again and right now it is far and away higher than that up 154 points. the dow jones industrials has been lagging in the red for much of the session, down 59 points, the russell 2000 yesterday's big winner is down 8.5 points. the busiest earnings week in high gear, the worst investor at this hour, ford is sputtering to the second worst of the s&p, the outermaker tapered its full-year profit forecast citing a global price war due to overcapacity but also supplier snafus. electronic design software and hardware company is the big winner, cadence design is
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crushing it up 12.6% and is at the top of the s&p but also the nasdaq. earnings, a huge earnings afternoon, analysts expect alphabet to show a 19% jump in profits, 12.5% revenue gains, the strength will be driven by its generative ai solutions for cloud customers. alphabet up 1.8%. advanced micro devices also reports. amd could 30 of 30 one% increase in profits, 16% revenue growth. shares up 3.4%. can anybody overtake nvidia? not if elon musk's brand-new x ai data center built by microcomputers is any indication, the massive data
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center is powered by 100,000 nvidia graphic processing units. yesterday x posted a video, musk says he's calling it a go factory of supercomputing. in a fox business exclusive, the man elon musk agreed to let inside to show it always first. analyst of youtube server the home, patrick kennedy on how they made it in a record 122 days, how it will allow x ai to train the chabad and proprietary cooling system will work with tesla's gigantic battery packs to power it all. got to look at oil, oil looking at day 2 of no pricing power after crude cratered 6. one%. we have it peeling back 1.4%, that drop, the collective two days sparked by the fact the a
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multi-wave assault on iran saturday avoided elon's energy operations and we saw the steepest decline in oil prices since 2022. looking at a new high, that is a all over most investors, if we see a bigger rate cut. election uncertainty is playing into this. gold is up $30. where are investors heads operate. thomas peder fianna fox business exclusive, great to have you. let's talk equities, s&p, you could call it a short jog away from a new high, from where you sit at interactive brokers, what is the most powerful catalyst, what metrics are we watching? >> no fun marching? i am watching fox.
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liz: we love that you are watching fox business. watching the election. watching the election on the interactive brokers platform. started the forecast trading get, the brokers on elections on october 6th and since that time it has been interesting, kamala harris goes up 52% and currently trump is up 64%, 36%. the odds fluctuate in the course of the day. we ask a simple question.
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will kamala harris when the election in 2024, and if you are right, and the thousand -- you can buy as many as you want. this is very interesting, even though kamala's abilities are lower than trump's, more money is being placed on kamala winning today the non-trump winning. liz: that is interesting, feels like a development. as you look at the thoughts that are inside investors heads by the flows you see on your training platform. can you give us a sense of
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people more interested when it comes to equity buying and selling, sitting on the sidelines waiting for any kind of election dust to settle with seven days to go. >> i don't know. that's why we publish these odds. we come to interactive brokers, there are odds out that it is too late to act. you have to act now and watch the odds. everybody should come to see what the probabilities are and you can make your own but. liz: what do you sense is driving record after record, since the beginning of this year. >> an awful lot of money in the
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economy has nowhere to go. keep your money in cash it is losing volume. it goes into stocks. liz: total assets up year over year, i was looking at some of these numbers driven by strong growth in margin lending. when i hear margin lending and strong growth, i wonder are people getting over their heads? are they a little far over their skis? they see record after record and not knowing corrections do come. >> i worry about the high level of margin loans but i don't see anything, money keeps deteriorating, put into stocks.
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liz: you said you worry about margin lending? >> it is our job to worry about it but i don't see it changing. it will go on like this, don't do anything about deficit spending, people are investing it. liz: the american stock market is a phenomenon. great american companies that make products or good management over time, and the sophistication you have seen, that they didn't have 3 or far years ago.
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>> the affect since we started treating options, started very slowly and went up and up and up in straight lines. it is not very -- what we see today. it is just -- options are fantastic. a little complicated for people to learn, once they do people lobby, you get more bang for your buck. liz: you've gotten a lot of bang for investors bucks if they bought interactive brokers, we watched the stock doing extraordinarily well, great story, thank you for joining us. >> thank you very much. liz: are the bears confused about one of the hottest techs in the sector?
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the banking apps notched its fourth straight quarter of profitability. that's good, right? that profitability is fueled by lending, and swelling consumer deposits. where anthony is looking for his next growth drivers, bears are not. the dow jones industrials down 72 points. ♪ evan! you're helping them with savings, right? (♪) somebody just got their first debit card! ice cream on you? your money is a part of your community, so your bank should be too. like, chase!
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and adjusted net revenue of $689 billion, both above wall street estimates. it can be attributed to its lending business, student, personal and home originations for the bank soaring year over year, and in the face of the massive growth there, so if i's ceo said they are not just a lending company but a force to be reckoned with. joining us now on where the force reflects its muscle next is anthony nodow. your success is solidified. pouring into the power of the force you talk about on the call? >> our business is built on the back of lending but this year, 2024, we endeavor to diversify the business, less risky, less
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capital-intensive, higher-margin, really focused on a fee-based business that will scale tremendously so we had 64% growth driven by the combination of financial services business and technology platform business which accounts for 49% of our total revenue compared to 30% a year ago. between lending and non-lending, we move the point we are no longer just a lender. in that business up 64% year-over-year, growing meaningfully faster from the lending business and continue to put significant resources. in those businesses are sofi checking interest on your savings account, ets, robo and ipos and and private venture capital.
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and credit card business, and product growth, 34%. that a leading indicator of overall revenue growth which we are seeing in these results. with the overall growth of 30%. liz: following up an update on the earnings. they continue to strengthen and putting one foot in front of the other, execute execute execute, but it is rare to see a ceo, i think this is interesting. in 2,025, you don't see head winds.
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>> that homogenous environment since i joined in 2018. and we had 2019 and the fed abruptly stopped raising rates and the pandemic it which led to a recession. and and damaging, he faced a 500 basis rate over the last 21/2 years. if we are likely going to be in a declining rate environment, that have not been growing as fast. and strong spending and credit card as well as people investing even more.
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and last, a lot of companies put in technology upgrades, as well as incremental risks of fraud and ai implications. we see a surgeon tech spending as well. liz: what about the capital expenditure, the 2020 conference yesterday a lot of talk about identity fraud. it is unbelievable how electronically the bad actors continue to keep tapping on the electronic walls and try to worm their way in. >> we launched a couple important fraud product in our technology platform. the most part of a product we have interest in. our ability to do transactional fraud monitoring through ai and the data we have with over 160 million account enabled through technology platform is a hugely needed service and one where we
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see a lot of support. we see that pay risk platform. prp. another revolution coming out, a real opportunity to have ecosystem overall for bad actors. liz: it is really depressing, trying to run a business. and when i say no headphones, when they make the biggest impact, through sofi? >> one of our leading product is a money product. and sending it with a phone number, they make it their direct deposit.
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and they invest more in the business, new technology and services. this quarter, the first large quarter in a large platform business in 2019. the great thing about this business, we can serve more people on the lending side by underwriting fees for third parties that want to underwrite the loans we are not underwriting or a wouldn't otherwise underwrite. that's part of the equation. more demand for buyers, technology from our partners and deposits accounts and spending. liz: and analysts said the bears are confused lose they are confused because the future is rather bright. great to see you. thank you so much. >> thank for having me. liz: the parent company of the
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north face bf corp. hitting a 52-week high. find out why the stock is dressed to impress. you are looking at the man yellen musk entrusted to give the world an inside look at the brand-new data center, to power his ai ambitions. and the inside details, the long's colossus data center. we are coming right back.
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liz: election day one week away and the presidential candidates are making their final argument in this still neck and neck race, donald trump is expected to hold a roundtable discussion in pennsylvania at any moment, the first of two stops in the key battleground state, arkansas governor mike huckabee campaigning with him at that event. vice president kamala bears -- kamala harris is set to make's speech in washington dc. she is expected to prioritize her to do list if elected. and contrast the competing visions she has with donald trump regarding the future. it comes as today's power rankings show a national race that is virtually even in the latest polls and a lateral
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college map forecasting the race has a tossup with six key battleground states and 82 electoral votes still up for grabs. edward lawrence joins us in baltimore as president biden is pushing ahead with infrastructure spending. >> reporter: president biden will open the taxpayers wallet to convert ports to electric or hydrogen. we are talking $3 billion from the inflation reduction act. baltimore is going $147 million to make that conversion. it can only be spent on converting to electric or hydrogen for person driven machinery. it cannot be used for automation, the biden/her said ministries and believes it will protect un jobs.
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>> president biden: they keep the economy strong. for too long, they've brought on fossil fuels at aging infrastructure, putting workers at risk and exposing communities to dangerous pollution. >> reporter: the port of baltimore's economic impact from maryland, one hundred $92 million a day, represent 13% of maryland's gdp. president biden. this project will support the 100,000 union jobs across the country, the next step in his forced transition to net 0 economy. donald trump holding a news conference in florida on the economy, but would use tariffs to protect american industries. >> we are going to revive our economy, a system of fair and reasonable tariffs, so powerful we never used them. china paid is hundreds of billions of dollars.
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>> china came to the phase 1 trade deal which was the first time china put in writing enforcement if they don't follow the trade deal. liz: shares are plummeting 19 and 3 quarters of one% after the retailer posted disappointing third-quarter profit guidance and announced jim conroy is stepping down. you wouldn't know it from the market today but they did report a solid second quarter with same-store sales. on november 22nd, the ceo of lost stores. you can create some of the magic he had at boot barn. it is pretty much flat. not all retail is a record. it is on pace for a record percentage gain.
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the shares are charging higher by 25%. posted profit after 2 quarters of losses. shares had a rough go. steady decline over the last two years but who knows? the "squid game," they had the slip in touches. jetblue feeling the blues, shares falling by 17% after the airline said it expects larger than expected drop in full gear revenue. decreased domestic travel demand ahead of the us elections. that's what delta said. people are not going to travel. 7 more days, elon musk is calling it his factory of compute. built by super microcomputer,
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liz: elon musk making a virtual splash when he dialed into saudi arabia's future investment initiative a couple hours ago. the tesla ceo renewing his warning that ai poses and exit essential threat as he called it, but this time he gave some odds. musk predict a i will most likely, quote, be great with a 10% to 20% chance it goes bad. bold statement from the man behind not just artificial intelligence startup x ai but who had tech journalist blogger
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patrick kennedy premier at the world's largest ai super cluster, the data center is in memphis, tennessee and has job dropping technology. >> the team at x is building a massive ai supercomputer that encompasses over 100,000 gpus, superfast networking, amazing. each of these has 25,000 gpus plus the storage, fiber optic high-speed networking built into the hall and connected together. if you look around me, absolutely giant pipes. these things are huge. what these pipes do is take liquid or water from the outside and generally cooler and bring it inside, from data halls.
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neil: usually to build a data center takes two to four years. including musk's chat bot, just a few hours ago, x ai is in talks to raise funding of valuation beyond $40 billion. joining us in a fox business exclusive, serving the homes, chief analyst patrick kennedy. it's a marvel of the modern tech world, describe your gut reaction when you got to step inside. >> it is still being built, that is something that was awesome to see. all the teams working together to build something like this, i thought it was amazing. i've been to a lot of data centers and this one is
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special. liz: it takes the mold on so many levels. how many gpus are in here, 100,000 but nvidia, all nvidia. >> when doing this, the largest ai cluster of the world. liz: very state-of-the-art when it comes to how to cool it. to memphis, tennessee, temperatures get pretty hot but aside from that no matter where the data center is these operations generate a huge amount of heat and smc i is at the forefront of green technology, using water to cool it. tell me in a nutshell for a 12-year-old, how that actually works? >> a cold plate that sits on nvidia gpus and cpus as well. inside an engine block, you
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flow that through, pretty much exchange loop that goes from the in rack. a heat pump moving liquid, moving the heat off of the cpus and gpus. liz: they also have diesel generators that provide energy stored in gigantic tesla batteries. >> folks have said -- there are generators you see on site. i won't comment on what fuel they use. the tesla mega pack batteries, one of the coolest thing, because america packs are there to handle peaks and valleys when you stop doing a lot of work on all those gpus. so much computing power you need those tesla mega packs to
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buffer that. liz: your video on x, elon and company picked you. they didn't pick a journalist to go through this. they picked you. you are well-known in the data center industry:before anybody was talking about investing in data centers you have been covering it. how did you get the nod to be the guy, what was that moment like when you heard you could be chosen? >> the project started the day after my son was born, want to go do something with x ai? we did not get to the idea of going into the data center. that happened a little later but that project, knows how it started. liz: it is supposed to power the chat bot.
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we are not going to pull this part out of the racks. what is it going to be able to do? >> a lot of folks look at current generation chat bots and they are limited in what we can do. something folks have found is the more you have, the capabilities of these ai agents increases. you can get better results. that is the significance of training such large models on 100,000 gpu server. it will not be a simple chat bot. liz: elon musk is dedicated to x ai especially how many square feet of this? it is gigantic. i know. >> it is huge, takes couple minutes to walk from one end to
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the other. liz: the old factory, before we go when i think of this many nvidia gpus being sucked up by this particular project, any other company that could give nvidia a run for its money. advanced micro devices reports after the bell, broad.com is out there. people are always looking at the next big thing but feels like for the moment nvidia has this grip on it. >> nvidia has an awesome supply chain and the ability to the over tons of gpus. there are other players, intel has the product as well. at the end of the day nvidia has a good runway to out produce everybody else. liz: the delivery issue is hugely important, been doing it
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liz: breaking news, donald trump's media company, truth social, has just overtaken the market cap of "the new york times." the former president's to stock continues on a tear just one week out from the election. and there's another famous social media company djt is also catching up to in valuation. charlie, what is it? >> the twitter. twitter's a private company, we should point out, right? liz: yeah, it's. >> there are some privacy -- there are some other companies that own it aside from elon musk. fidelity, for example. the private valuation of twitter now is something like $9-something billion. truth social is higher than twitter right now. liz: djt. >> yeah. it's kind of interesting, because elon musk paid $44 billion for truth -- for twitter, now x.
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he obviously paid probably $40 billion too much. this thing's worth closer to 4 than it is 40, as you can see, as we're pointing out. but the bigger thing is truth social. this thing is on a roll. what is it up today? what have we got today? another 10% today. yesterday it was 020. it's up over 200% the past month it's literally setting the stage for a short squeeze which could send this parabolic. the one thing i will say about this, liz, and the main driving force is exuberance, maybe irrational, that donald trump has the election locked up and that he is going -- and that he as president is positive for the stock. i don't know how that is the case, just so you know. just because he's president doesn't mean if people are going to be flocking to truth social and people are going to, to like, advertise on truth social. as you to know, the business is very, very different --
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liz: look at the revenue. they were losing money, correct? losing money. >> lost something like $60 million if last quarter. the comparison is twitter. twitter is barely breaking even, or x. it's worth, according to fidelity, 10 billion, 9 billion. and if you think about it, they're doing better than truth social. but that doesn't matter in this business. and right now we're talking about a momentum play. we're talking about the a potential short squeeze. and we're talking about exuberance over trump being the next president which is pushing the stock higher. of "the new york times" thing is hysterical because i'm just waiting for trump to tout it on truth social. [laughter] that he's overtaken the, what's he call, the fake news new york times? [laughter] it's coming, i'm just saying, you know? you don't have to be nostradamus to figure that out. it is interesting. again, short, from what i understand, have not thrown in the towel, meaning cover. remember, when you do a short sale --
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liz: when would you do that? >> so people know what a short sell is, you borrow the stock, you sell it immediately. you replace the borrow, hopefully when shares go down, make money on the difference. however, if shares rise, you have to cover your short. when will you cover your short? well,, if trump loses, obviously, they're going to cover at a much lower price. they could make a lot of money. the air could deflate from the stock -- liz: do you think people are borrowing on margin to buy djt? because thomas peterffy was on at the top of the show, and he was a little worried about how exuberant margin buying -- >> if trump doesn't win, this could be a cataclysmic if stock, crash. but if he does win, i mean, this could be, like, the mother concern what do they call it? mother of all short squeezes. [laughter] liz: not moab, mother of all bombs. >> not like mo' ass but moas.
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[laughter] liz: charlie, thank you very much. you could see sell on the news, right? >> maybe. i'm just telling you short interest is high, float is low. donald trump controls 50% plus of the stock. i mean, it's got all the smell of a short squeeze, of a moas. liz: charlie, thank you. always bringing class to "the claman countdown." closing bell six minutes away. look at the nasdaq. we told you to keep your eye on the nasdaq, it is on pace for a record close, its first record since july 10th. and if it does, because it's up 161 is points, all it really needs is a gain of 80 points, this will mark the 28th record close of the year. so much of this has been driven by semiconductor stocks, a.i., anything related to artificial intelligence. and we are just a few minutes away from google parent alpha a bet earnings. the online search and ad giant is expected to report third quarter earnings per share jumped 19% to $1.85 driven by 13% spike in revenue to $86 --
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sorry, 86.3 billion. if we're also going to get earnings from advanced micro devices. but if you're trying to pick one single stock that can capture the a.i. craze but are concerned about the impact oned bad earnings report might have if on that holding, etfs have become very popular that are focused specifically on these baskets of names n. a fox business exclusive, we have vanek ceo jan vanek, 69 listed etfs and an aum of $1 is13.8 billion. clearly, chips are a hot commodity, and the a.i. surge is very, very upbeat, isn't it? have you seen this kind of interest in certain etfs in the past like this. >> no. we have over 7 billion that's come into smh, our big semiconductor etf, and it's the theme, it's like a growth stock, it's just -- it's gone from 2 of the s&p to over 1 is %, semiyou
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canners -- 11%, semiconductors. it's bigger than a banks and energy combined. liz: and over the past six months it's up 18%. the 1-year is even better, i think. and the widely held names in here, that enables you to absorb any individual earnings shock from one particular name because we saw that klac. that had a bad, a bad headline. it went down dramatically. but then two days later taiwan semiwas moving hire. is so way -- so this way it sort of softens the shock. >> yeah. and some of the different companies have different problems. like one, you know, intel's trying the make its own chips. so they've got all the problems of big capital expenditures and can they compete really with tsmc. tough. others are more leveraged just to traditional use of semiconductors, right? not a.i., but the semiconductors you put yo concern in your phone or car. so a diversified bassett is
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obviously -- liz: nvidia, taiwan semi but you've also got qualcomm. again, qualcomm's going big on a.i., but certainly broadening to the auto industry. second to chips, the hottest area -- this is interesting, because we've talked about it on the show. tell me about the etf that captures the nuclear power option. >> well, in your prior segment you showed how they're building this huge a.i. data center, compute centers, right? elon musk was, i think, what you featured. look how big the batteries were. they need so -- they're energy hogs. and so the the hyper-scalers are driving a renewed drive towards nuclear energy because nuke race always d -- nuclear's always been there. it's been relatively safe in the united states, and it's clean. it generates -- so it helps the states meet carbon credit goals. and so suddenly, all the hyper-scalers in the last several months have struck deals with new nuclear companies, often these smrs or smaller
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nuclear reactors, and it's driving that etf up over 30% this year, and a lot of that move has come over the last month. liz: yeah. a lot of that move just in one month. >> one month. there were some stocks that went up 20% yesterday. liz: what's going on with the market? because right now almost every different area is doing incredibly well. t not just equities. nasdaq, obviously, at a record. gold's at a record. bitcoin is spiking as well. what do you see here that indicates to you that it's smooth sailing ahead versus here comes a correction? >> yeah. i mean, there are different head wynns and tailwindwinds, but -- tailwinds, but what we have is a very strong economy, full employment. and we have the two largest countries in the world, china and the u.s., using monetary policy to support hair markets and their economies -- their markets. so those are green lightings. now, there are big issues coming up for the next president, spending issues. moody's is probably going to downgrade the u.s., we predict,
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from aaa to aa -- liz: because of the debt? >> the debt and deficits are out of control. we're going to have a debt ceiling, you know, debate. we're going to have a lot of spending debates in congress and the new president. so there's a lot of turbulence, i think, that will come out of that. people want an alternative to that situation. that's why they're buying gold, because no other currency is popular. europe, growth is too weak. japan just lost -- the ruling party just lost in an election. there's no alternative. liz: jan vanek, well, lots of alternatives right now whether it's gold or equities, even bitcoin. great to see you. thank you so much. we've called a record for the nasdaq. russell and the dow pulling back just a bit, the s&p up 11, transports up 19. that's going to do it for us. "the claman countdown" will be right back here tomorrow. " kudlow" is next. ♪ larry: hello, folks, welcome to
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