larry: hello, folks. welcome to kudlow, i'm l arry kudlow. so just hours until election day. is this rate really a toss

up. is president trump once again being underestimated? we'll talk about that with kellyanne conway, r, lowry and jason chaffetz. in a moment we have vivek ramaswamy. but first grady trimble is grand rapids, michigan. i've been there how about that. reporter: so has former president trump twice, this is where he ended his campaign in 2016 and 2020 and making his last minuter late night pitch to voters here in the wolverines state. ure can see here. former president will not take the stage for there are 6 plus hours, his supporters are here and ready to see him. >> he won 8 years ago when i was here, i missed 4 years ago, he lost, i'm here this time, i'm hoping that there

is a repeat. reporter: you sound superstitious too. >> we all are. a little bit. reporter: this is the last rally of campaign but one of 4 for the former president on final day of the campaign. he has been making his closing argument in north carolina. he is in pennsylvania right now, and another rally in pittsburgh before here to michigan. and larry, sh he is sounding confident. >> the end of a journey, a new one that we'll be starting, the one that we've been waiting to partake in to make america great again, we'll have a chance to do it after today hopefully everything will work out well. we're way leading. all we have to do is close it up. close it up. reporter: trump campaign is happy with early voting numbers here in michigan, compared to 2020, that the rural turn out, is really strong, they say it quite a

bit more muted in urban areas in the cities. thats bodes well for former president not just here but a trending they say they are see ag crashing the battleground -- across battleground states particular be a big day for the former president tomorrow. larry: grady trimble thank you so much. >> so, suppose tomorrow's results are one big populous surprise that is the subject of the riff. nearly all commentators and pollsters call the race a toss up too close to call, i think of a couple ma major patterns one is big g.o.p. early voting turn out, unlike 2020, sponsored this time by president trump. and voter registration, seems to favor republicans in over 30 states. here is two ace pollsters who appeared on bret baier a

special report last night starts with mark pen penn. roll tame. tape. >> which side do you want to be this evening. >> i would rather be trump this evening. for the simple reason that there are a lot of polls that show dead even. only fact we know is that republicans have done a lot better in mail in and early voting than they ever have. larry: there you go. and here is republican pollster alex. take a listen. >> i think that pollsters are getting this wrong, i think they are missing is a massive shift in voter r registration you were this, 31 states have voter r registration by party, 30 in past 4 years seen moment toward republicans. larry: so, dig in deeper seems that democrats facing a massive turn out deficit in each of the battle ground state, ump president trump

and republicans are outperforming election past. and absentee balloting and early votes cast and a decline urban voter turn out facing democrats, former obama adviser jim messina yet called early vote numbers a little scary and reports that early black voting in slower than 2020 in places like atlanta, charlotte, detroit, milwaukee to name a few. one other point pollsters might be missing is that donald trump's position nationally and in each battle down state is better today than it was 4 years ago. tony fabrizio shows nationwide, mr. trump has improved almost 8 points, then it runs to 2.5 better in arizona, and 3 in georgia, 8 in michigan. 4 f4.5 in nevada.

then pay-to-play betting market polly market shows trump ahead 58 to 42. now i wonder if these cracker jack pollsters understand how mr. trump widened his working class coalition, mult multiracial, whites, hispanics, blacks, young people, unions, there is a function of how many things have gone wrong and been broken in the last 4 years, the economy, cost of lives arkaforwardbility, border public schools of universities to name a couple, mr. trump said that kamala broke it and he will fix it that idea broken is key in this populist working class trump moment. he asked are you be you better identify today than 4 year -- better off today than 4 years ago is deeply rooted in a broken

reality. you could add to that world on fire from afghanistan to ukraine and middle east, you could add to that president trump working class coalition does not like woke culture for this racial and gender mandates. and hostility toward catholics, other christians and religion in general. by the way, folks don't want to give up their gasoline powered cars either. they look forward to $2 at pump some day, mr. trump on stage in campaign stop after campaign stop win richarding new faces. -- with interesting new faces 46 elon musk, vivek ramaswamy, coming here. tulsi gabbard, rfk jr., jd vance and others, not your father's g.o.p. or party of big business and the rich. mr. trump's new big tent includes all these traditional republicans but party is no longer based on wall street, or the business round table. so have all smart pollsters figured it out?

gee wiz, i don't know. i really k kind don't think so, suppose tomorrow's results are one big p populous surprise, that is the subject of the riff. that is the riff. what am i saying? we have a distinguished panel, kellyanne conway, on "fox nation," and rich lowry, and jason chaffetz, former utah house member and a fox news contributor. ladies and gentlemen, thank you for coming, kellyanne, i begin with you. you heard it. is that true? early voting, r registration, a bigger working class coalition, country is broken, i will put stuff up there, hope you you might say one of them is right. >> i think it is right, trump 2024 is former president trump 2016 including ending in grand rapids surprising pundits and pollsters with a massive

expandtion of republican party to working class and noncollege educated union households, but now. he it is overlaid with a 4 year order with him as president, and him being unarkunark unaircraft frayed -- unafraid to make the case, country is more conservative over the last 4 to 8 years, democratic party in swapping out -- swapping out jobe jjoe biden for kamala harris and tim walz. they have gone the opposite way of the country, that is where i think trump fills in some of the gaps, i think there are closing arguments are fascinating, he says are you better over, i say 5 years, do you' company 2019 and growth and wages and economy and low interest

rates or kamala 2019 she ran for president on her own, we saw who she really is, he says she broke it i'll fix it he says we'll have a golden age, i am optimistic. >> i love that, fabulous. >> forward look, not just looking past, what is kamala doing picking up about where they liftoff in 2016, 51% of country votes gain him that is enough for us, that is not she should run away with it if it were true, he is on preprecipice of reaching into that. larry: rich lowry, this is a different republican party. i'm not saying it is brand-new, coalition working class part is not brand-new, mr. trump rang that bell in 2016, since then it ebbs and

flows i think it is reaching high high tide and coalition is larger, i think he will do better with hispanics than before. i don't know how pollsters incorporate that, is he sufficiently optimistic as kellyanne said? is he ending on a positive note, live the golden era stuff, not gold standard. but -- >> this educational sorts between two parties is not new it was happening in u.s. prior to trump but he amplified e and underlined it. there is potential for party to become more multiracial, seems as though we could see is tomorrow night, we'll see it with latinos, and we could see it with black males, just take a step back outcome matters a lot. you with all that happened and all gone through and all lawfare and indictments

bogus felony conviction in new york to cusp of presidency again is -- >> i don't know how it will work tomorrow, none of these polls are votes, preliminarily there is almost -- potential leale most l.a., inlly there is almost nothing like it on record. do you buy it? this is the cards, you -- remember with mark pence would rather beat trump last night. do you bee it. buy it. >> i think donald trump will have a great night, he will be north of 300 electoral votes, i am like kellyanne, more than 2/3 of this country thinks they are on the wrong track, you don't continue on in per co perpetuity with person who says i am with joe biden and continue with that.

if your corps thesis and i'm not that guy, you don't have enough to offer america that is where donald trump is on the right side of the overwhelming majority number of issues, issues that people care about, pocketbook, inflation, they care about safety, they care about security, not just immigration because border is not secure because they go to a class where 5 kids in their class they don't speak english and their kid is suffering not moving ahead the way they should, world is on fire. and kamala harris is over there saying, i can't tell you the difference between he and joe biden. larry: this stuff that country in many ways is broken. economy is broken. cost of living is broken, affordability is broken. border is broken. crime is broken en. public schools, parenting is broken. higher universities and higher education is broken look at these crazy kids against israel and with palestinian and hamas

flags. the international side is broken. we have several wars going at the same time. and biden is appeasing everything, this is broken. i am saying when mr. trump says, she broke it i can fix it. analytically there truth. does high have credibility to pull it off, this is a different matter, you leave that to you there is no question, that unfortunately, this great country of ours got busted in last couple years. >> it may not look it at this time, kamala harris has been a gift to donald trump did sharpened up schedule he is barnstorming and blitzes like in 2016, it gave him ccontrast. he doesn't just say i'll cut your taxes or de deregulate or end the wars, he finishes it look at what she did, i will secure the

border i. she will raise your taxes, she will raise them, they have electric vehicle mandate. and so, i love the contrast,. larry: 7 or 8 billion dollars they spent for 7 or 8 charging stations, one per billion, that say tremendous cost, what is elon musk. >> where has beat buttigieg been to do the math, he started to contrast his opponent he got his vim and vigor again, you don't go to ballot box and see trump not trump, you see trump hillary, and trump kamala, people have to decide, do i put aside all my misgivings, must unqualified president to run some time, unchallenged in kamala harris, you have to put aside everything that you have that you have as misgivings about her to vote for her, and her versus trump, you say i want to get back to where we were.

>> you left out an important thing, the press, legacy media on ballot tomorrow night, been like a hunter biden laptop story every single day. not same circumstances, but creating misinformation, and trying to create the gaffes out of nowhere, last week and a half has been trying to great trump gaffes he said i want to protect women from m migrant gangs there is a terrible thing sup supposedly. >> donald trump is bet or social media, he goes out there with joe rogan with elon musk, and able to go on x without being suppressed that is talking to tens of millions of people on a regular basis, donald trump has owned that stace, space, kamala harris fake its every see tit a cink worthy moment -- cringe worthy movement.

larry: trump media stock up 8%. >> it is going up higher if he wins. larry: since trumpa winning it, you could say markets are rigged, but no more or less than s&p 500. you said, in your articles in fox news digital, she is a rookie seek with no prior experience, she was not ready for this race. what you said about some republican candidates a year or two ago, she should not be where he is in. >> she does not have political muscle. larry: how she got there is worse. >> it will end the way she started in 2020. hot co kcalne commodity, raising money and then she fails because she starts speaking. 6 points behind yang in california. >> as pollster when you pick

on polls media poll are wrong, they have a lot of accounting to do, private pollsters we're not good at what we do -- >> there is a difference. >> "new york times" 8 years ago, i was on today show mmatt lauer were on me, laughing in my face we were winning michigan i was confident about it i explained. it is because their polls were so wrong. in so many ways, "new york times" gave donald trump a 15% chance of winning on election day 2016, single digit chance of winning wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania, he swept all 3. they are in the tank. larry: one other thing that is broken her distaste for religion. there are several examples. >> al smith dinner looks

worse now, she goes out of her way to go to snl but not al smith dinner. larry: right. >> and catholics and christians in general, and i want to say religion in general. i think we talked about this. you know, our former mentor, late william f buckley, said, a family, a country, a society without religion is just hopeless, it is lost. i don't think that is a small point, i think that there ask a silent vote in this coalition, of ordinary middle class folks that like to go to church sunday whatever their religion, i think that so -- that will play a role. >> she tried to run from everything that she said and did in 19 and 20. axios has been asking her what about this position you took, they can't get answers, they now call her

the "no comment" an date. she is running as an ink blot. if she loses it will be a big reason why. >> the realignmemement of minority voters so many are very religious, they like open hostility. >> all good points kellyanne conway, rich lowry, jason chaffetz, here is the deal with kelly on streaming on "fox nation," appreciate it. on kudlow, should federal reserve really target racial injustice and d.e.i. that that is what democrats want, we might see more of that if they win this election. we'll into former federal reserve governor kevin warsh hire. and special election night coverage on fox business,

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larry: the fed, you know, democrats, in white house, and senate have pushed federal reserve to target racial up justice, minority unemployment. d.e.i., that is a they want, we'll have kevin warsh former federal reserve governor and man about town. one fed watch, they are meeting this week, election overshadows everything as it should, you know they had ul tra 50 bases point cut what happened bond rates went up on not down. and i had the thought that fed can't force feed the markets, they have to do it following market not leading them, what do you think? >> the markets, said in response to decisions last time it was a mistake. fed's lost some control over bond market. which is big deal. credibility, matters more to central bank than printing press. sent they cut rates about 6 weeks ago, long-term

interest rates up three quarters of a percent, a typical motor mortgage closer to 7% than 6, they did it trying to cut rates, there is a problem. i don't know if they v have internalized that, but if they keep it up they will make policy more restrictive. larry: i read, switching gears to bigger picture issues, alicia finley wrote a good piece in journal, white house pressure on fed and senate democrat pressures on fed gear policy toward what they call racial injustice, minority, unemployment, d.e.i., diversity, equity and inclusion, all of these nonmonetary noninflation nonprice stability arguments. aas an. >> do i think that fed is

guilt of some of that. >> i am afraid have t to say yes this bothers me, as they wander who the areas which are fads and trends, this is when we see inflation strike, over last 3 years averaged 5%, higher than 2% goal, if there is anything we learned it is central bankers should be wary of fads, we should resist them, not in political business. we look like we're play something politics, we end up with irresponsible monetary policy and irresponsible fiscal policy, and inflation is surest sign that economy is off track there is are i'm bal -- iibalances it does more harm to those. best to have stable prices, they have not bp stable.

prices stopped falling about 6 months ago. inflation today by preferred measure of core pc closer to 3% than 2%. and might be okay for asset holders or stock market, deeply destruction for middle class. larry: in the article, others said, we'll doe very well, they can beat inflation they own stocks and homes, interest rate story are write-offs for them. wealthy have been running the economy not middle class, inflation is cruelest tax, do you think -- look starts from top with chairman, j. powell and also you have governors and reserve bank presidents and the board staff, want to go to d.e.i. thing, it keeps cropping up in conversation, is the fed guilty of being infected with d.e.i. the way that colleges and universities have been infected why and businesses

and corporations have? >> i'm afraid to say there has been some mission creep. that mission creep has been going on for a long time, i want toy to say it comes from best of intention, if that is their intention it has not work they'd have taken powers away from fiscal authority, congress should appropriate money, but the fed is entering their business as if they are f philosopher kings in washington, good news we have an independent central bank, bad news we need to keep them focused on renet but it looks like they have not, that is why even at a time of full employment, most americans have it figured y out, the economy is the wrong track, they are less well off, time for economy policy regime change. larry: one would be hard pressed to find any

concerted fed campaign from the chairman or anyone. fiscal policy under biden-harb biden-harris is running 5% of gdp . maybe mentioned once or so, i remember paul volcker used to crew crusade against deficit spending and allen greenspan. -- this is something that the federal reserve should do because the end result of that kind of deficit spending will be more and more inflation, and higher prices, and the middle and lower incomes get hurt the most. >> here, here, worse than you disliked when times were tough, what did federal reserve say, they went to congress said please spend more, they acted.

theythey say spend, if you get in fiscal business when you run these deficits, at a time of r relative tpeace and posterity, you have to open your mouth the other way you cannot have fiscally responsibility economic polic policy and irresponsible monetary policy, we need to get out of it it is getting more and more expensive and bond market is following it out that will be a real problem 6 or 12 months from now. larry: bond vigilanters at it again. kevin warsh thank you, appreciate your wi wisdom. coming up vivek ramaswamy, who says a vote for mr. trump is a vote to revive our national self confidence, vivek will join us next, c kudlow is

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>> why should someone vote for trump. >> i think, it is about reviving or national character. pride in who we are as a country, about reviving or self confidence. i'm voting for donald trump, i think about who will make my son more proud to be an american, who'll make my son grow up in a country gaiter gate greater than the one we knew. larry: vivek ramaswamy joining us now. welcome. i love this reviving national self confidence, it is to some -- i agree. it is about national character. isn't national confidence related to nai national

character. >> you are right simple verse of this election the economy and border and national security staying out of worl world war iii, i got this question, at colleges, i spent a lot of time on ground with young people in pennsylvania, i felt i owed them a deeper answer, it is about reviving confidence in america, confidence in ourselves, once woe get this self confidence back that is a good input for the economy that gives us spine to enforce the rule of law and seal the border, in deeper sense that is what this election is about. who'll restore the confidence as americans, that is donald trump hands down, that is why i'm supporting him. and all of other policies in some ways downstream of, that i found that answer is bringing more young people along gen-z coming in our

direction. and i think a lot of time in pennsylvania hopefully will payoff. larry: you need a positive message. that is what you say. also. part of this i think mr. trump is ending on a positive message, talking about a golden era or golden age. i like that. i think that gives him sense of hope. but it is you are to feel good about casting that vote, you have to feel good about country again, we're in the wrong direction, you don't have to be a jeanous genius to know that, that is common sense. but fact is that there has to be a -- i go to reagan when i was a child, i worked for reagan, he had a sense of telling people optimism, city on the hill, american greatness. we don't hear it from the opposition, we do hear it from you, bless your heart. and i think we're hearing it from mr. trump, is that what he says on the stump?

>> i think he says it in authentic and honest way, people don't want fake optimism, i don't think that reagan would say it is morning in america right now, but it can be. i think that is what we have to see asimov am. as a move. movement, we're not running from something but back to something, our vision of what it is to be a nation, sftscitizen of this greatest nation, we're never perfect, we're comprised of human being not god but at end of the day we're one nation under god founded under pursuit of a more perfect union, you hear that from donald trump, he is honest we says we're a nation in decline but we don't have to stay that nation in decline. we can be in our asent ascent, i think that is reagan would say, and authentic optimism, understanding our best days are ahead, yes, young people

in all voters are hungry for that and i think that don donald trump and conservative movement is doing a far better job of delivering that. larry: a lot of people knowing you have to work two jobs to get by. mr. dr trump is working two jobs. in all seriousness, i don't hear other side say any such thing, i just hear t being defensive about this story and issue of national self confidence. opposition seems to say we -- there no problem. but it is broken we know it is broken. it has to be fixed. it has to be fixed fast. >> i agree we're not working with a lot of time, other side's vision is victimhood, our side is about victory,

the belief that with your own hard work and dedication you can achieve maximum of your god given official and not everyone has same gifts, not like you or i or every person watching as same gift at each other we have our own unique god given gifts, beauty of this country, amer ameritocracy, we allow you to achieve your own gifts without anyone standing in your way, this is confidence in america and confidence in ourselves, that is how we generate the type of risk taking ambition and confidence that grows our economy and pushes america to frontier that we've always been we're about 24 hours from delivering that, if donald trump we send him back to white house i think we'll see a revival of risk taking ambitious pioneer attitude that characterized our country from our founding, a spha 1776 kind of

movement in a positive way. larry: someone told me, coming to 250th anniversary of the country. when you say it is 1776 idea, you are right. that is a very important point. and i think really, most americans all stripes, coacolors and incomes they want patriotism, they just need someone to lead them, vivek ramaswamy you are terrific, thank you for your wisdom, good luck tomorrow. sir. >> thank you. larry: joining us now, senator joni ernst of great state of iowa, who will explain what is the des moines register too much to drink l last night or why did they come out with a craze poll, is it turn out? how do you make it. >> larry, hard to know, oh, my gosh, i have been a

victim of the polls, as well. and in iowa, ann selzer is a very respected pollster, but i have to say she is wrong. i saw this 4 years ago when i was running for my second term in united states senate. and she called my race with me down by five points. just a few weeks before the election. and i won by 8. so, larry, i don't know what is going with with to poll ter pollster. say day we saw emerson a reported pollster release their poll, with trump taking iowa by 10. and you know me, i go to all 99 counties across iowa every single year. and what i hear on the ground is that trump is easily going to take this state.

people are excited about this his candidacy. larry: senator, i'm looking at memorandum, republicans registered 143 thousand more voters this time. not -- i don't think that is in the poll. early voting, democratic votes are way down from where they were. i think all of these polls, the particularly media you know call themselves public polls they are missing. the early voting favored g.o.p., registration favoring g.o.p. and mr. trump's coalition senator is a bigger coalition, than 4 years ago. or 8. give you the last word. >> yes, absolutely, republicans are turning out in iowa, in droves. our voter registration is up, we are going to win. i want to encourage everyone to get out and vote, if you have not early voted yet.

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it's our son, he is always up in our business. it's the verizon 5g home internet i got us. oh... he used to be a competitive gamer but with the higher lag, he can't keep up with his squad. so now we're his “squad”. what are kevin's plans for the fall? he's going to college. out of state, yeah. -yeah in the fall. change of plans, i've decided to stay local. oh excellent! oh that's great! why would i ever leave this? -aw!

we will do anything to get him gaming again. you and kevin need to fix this internet situation. heard my name! i swear to god, kevin! -we told you to wait in the car. everyone in my old squad has xfinity. less lag, better gaming! i'm gonna need to charge you for three people. larry: we have interesting last minutes legal maneuvering keeping noncitizens off ballot and interesting stuff in cobb county, georgia, right away kerri urbahn, and tammy bruce. cobb county georgia said, what? no, superior court of georgia said. >> i salute them. 3 cheers, decision here simple, aclu was successfully winning a lawsuit, they said 3 thousand voters in cobb county had not received their mail in ballot. courts have sided with aclu said okay we'll have to overnight them, it was that

may have not received them and they would extent election day for 3 days for the people. georgia supreme court just stepped in said no, election day is t tuesday november 5, if you did not receive a ballot or have one you are more than welcome to come in drop it off, if not come in and vote on election day. you know. larry: a great idea. on election day. >> no way. larry: you can do that, tammy bruce is that legal? >> it is, a good reminder it reminds us about how much of this shenanigans we have been dealing with each of these election periods, 16, 20, 22, that kinds of thing they want to do, when you want legitimate election down want people to wonder why would you want to like oh, we won't know for three more days, and tight race and you have thousand of

ballots coming in enough is enough, covid is done. larry: follow-up to you. early voting favors g.o.p., new voter registration favors g.o.p., i'm reading a lot about, that not in "new york times" or "washington post," true or untrue? >> i would have to see these reports, larry. i don't know. larry: all right, tammy? >> i think number -- >> they show numbers. >> look, new for g.o.p., it is exciting and trump has been pushing it, americans know what is at stake. that is why you see this kind of a number. what matters, still, is tomorrow. is people it is a tradition in this country we do care about election day, we don't want an election period or election year. that is nuts. we want to be specific people can decide, and trust americans to do it. tomorrow, matters, people to go out and vote, and also discipline you get the ballot, you notice if you

don't have it, you get it, you make time, maybe we do make election day a national holiday, maybe we do. larry: but announce citizens -- noncitizens not voting seems to be pretty upheld decision, for this election. >> yeah, you know, i think governor youngkin led the way. when again, common sense, a federal crime for a noncitizen to vote, also it siinconsistent with state law in virginia, that is what is going on there. and you know claimed it was disturbing so-called -- >> not in california. >> no, just alabama and virginia. >> right. larry: they tried to keep trump off ballot, that is not relevant any more. >> got to go come h tammy bruce and kerri

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