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and just found out as well that speaker mike johnson, house speaker, who's in shreveport, louisiana, right now appears to be making plans to come here to be with former president trump. back to you. martha: aishah, thank you very much. we'll keep a close eye on trump headquarters as we continue to give you more updatessen on what's going on right now. you know, we don't have a call for any new states at this point. we're waiting for montana, waiting to get a look at the sheehy race, and we have some new guests who have joined us on the panel that we want to get to, so let's welcome them in. bret: as we get ready for the top of the hour, we'll a make some new calls -- martha: calls first and then right to you guys. wow. time is going so fast. [no audio] there we go. bret: it is now 11 p.m. in new york and four west coast states have just finished voting. the fox news decision desk can
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project that vice president harris will win california, the golden state, 54 electoral votes. the biggest prize, more than any other state in the country. martha: and fox news can also project that harris will win oregon, adding 8 more votes to her electoral college vote. harris will also win washington, another reliably democratic northwestern state. bret: but the former president will win idaho's 4 electoral race. it's now 2216 to -- 216-193. i am getting some word from the democrats who have now put out kind of a sense of the race saying that in pennsylvania they say they're overperforming turnout expectations in philadelphia, and the early vote expectations in bucks county. they go into state by state of where they feel like they're going to see more vets in these states, these are the blue wall states, because that is the path that we're looking at.
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in wisconsin they say we know there's a significant amount of vote remaining in dane and milwaukee counties, we just have partial data. we don't expect complete results from wisconsin until tomorrow morning between 3 a.m. and 5 p.m.. 5 a.m. we shall see. martha: california's senate race, as we talked about, can project that the current democratic congressman, adam schiff, will win his race against former major league baseball player steve garvey in that senate race. in washington incumbent democratic senator maria a cantwell will win her fifth term. not big surprises on that front this evening here's. -- either. so here's the balance of power in the senate, 49 for republicans. the majority is 51. they have flipped one seat, 42 for the democrats as we wait for a number of these big senate races to be called. ohio, montana, pennsylvania all will really dictate the future of the senate. bret: and michigan.
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let's bring in brit hume, dana perino, harold ford jr., kevin o'leary, jessica tarlov and ben domenech. jessica, are you surprised? >> surprises is a very generous term for how i'm feeling at this particular moment. it is in democrats' nature to be anxious, and we are certainly at peak anxiousness. i think the conversation that you were having in the last panel about the latino vote is really interesting. some of those numbers are a little bit jaw-dropping, potentially 45% for donald trump in some states. and that is going to cause a real reckoning within the party how we talk about, message to and integrate, you know, a huge part of our base typically in all of this. i would say though that the campaign and people that i've been speaking to have said nothing has been called. our paths to 27 the 0 concern 270 have not been blocked off, and as we continue to get more
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votes in, detroit is coming in. and detroit had a very good day. with in-person voting today. and the suburbs of atlanta outperforming where biden was there. one point of concern is that she's not doing as well in the rural areas as biden did, and that's something that the they're paying attention to. but i'm hearing more and more from people that i'm speaking to blue wall, blue wall, and this morning we were talking about, well, if you pick up north carolina and georgia, again, they're not off the map, buts it is feeling like more of that a laser focus on the easiest route. martha: ben, welcome, first of all. good to see you tonight. >> good to be with you. martha: i'm sitting here thinking about the rethink that republicans went through after mitt romney lost, and they a did this huge analysis of what was going wrong with the republican party and why they weren't reaching hispanic voters, why they couldn't reach working class voters, why they weren't bringing in more women. it was stunning. that was mitt romney's loss, and
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it appears that the person who has changed that calculus dramatically is donald trump. >> well, you know, they called it an autopsy at the time, and i think it's turned out to be an autopsy for a party that was dead. and i think that donald trump has done something incredible in resurrecting it with a new coalition that, you know, a lot of people never thought republicans were going to be able to reach, that they weren't going to be able to cut through a lot of these different fundamental problems that people thought were there in order to reach these different sets of the electoratement and -- electorate. and and, look, i think the big question they have to be asking is how much is tied to donald trump himself and how much of it is something that the republican party going forward can build on. and regardless of whatever ends up happening here tonight and tomorrow morning in terms of these to blue wall states and the things that we take away from it, certainly we can take away this is the most incredible political comeback that we've seen since 1968, the most incredible remaking of the republican coalition that we've
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seen in the way that was really unexpected by all but a handful of people. and how they build on that, how they choose to prioritize policies going forward could make a big different in whether they're able the hold on to it in the future or whether it's something that a goes away if donald trump isn't at the top of the ticket. bret: kevin o'leary, mr. wonderful, the markets now have it at 9932. 5% -- 9 2.5% for donald trump winning this election to kamala harris' 7.00%. you're a market guy. how do you read this? >> i'm going to stay on this theme for a moment and call this perhaps the greatest night the the democratic party could ever have if they lose. and let me explain that. i was very troubledded just over 100 days ago when they circumvented the democratic process and anointed somebody. the analogy is easy to to a super bowl. you arrive at the super bowl game and by any measure this is the super bowl of global politics, the presidential race. your quarterback, biden, is
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injured. he's taken out of the game. you don't bring a quarterback in that's never, ever, ever won any game anywhere. you run a process. and they missed that opportunity. this is a chance for them to -- i'm not saying they're going to lose, but i'm going to those percentages and saying they get to reboot. they get to go back to the to center. hay get to scratch this whole thing, and the influences of a schumer or a pelosi, a movie star or an obama deciding to anoint somebody, those guys are gone. in four years. they won't is have that kind of influence. this could be great for america because i'm an investor. i have to work with whoever's mt. white house in january. but i care about policy. and when i hear policies coming out of a party that are so twist twod against the american way of life like, basically, taxing capital gains that have unrealized, that's not america. or price controls.
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that's not america. 28 tax rate, takes us to the bottom quartile of competition. that's bad. we can't do that. that would hurt the country. and all i do is work with entrepreneurs that a want to build businesses. there's a reason people come here under barbed wire is and drown in rivers to get to america. it's the american dream. it's the only thing a president has to do, maintain it. those policies are existence the american dream. and -- against the american dream. and i have nothing existence harris. mean, look, she did a masterful job in getting to where she is. it would be good for them to lose tonight. it would reset and reboot and get that party back to the center. it would be good for them. they may not want to hear that -- >> we don't. [laughter] >> but you may have to deal with it. [inaudible conversations] [laughter] >> i would love to win and do the reboot. >> yeah. >> we'd bring you right into the party to help us do it. bret: we're going to have take a pause. martha: the fox news decision desk can now project that bernie
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moreno, who started his entrepreneurial career in the car company and buying auto shops in ohio has won and unseated incumbent democratic senator sherrod brown who has been has been an ohio institution for a lot of years. this is an important flip if for republicans. the party is edging closer to an outright senate majority tonight, and there are still a couple of places yet to be heard from. bret: right. now think about this, now, if the democrats would somehow hold on to the jon tester seat, that would be a different mast. -- math. but as you look at the balance of power in the u.s. senate, is this 40 moreno speaking right now? martha: let's listen in for a couple of minutes here. [cheers and applause] >> look, today starts a new wave. you know, we talked about wanting a red wave? i think what we have tonight is
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a red, white and blue wave in this country. [cheers and applause] because what we need in the united states of america is leaders in washington, d.c. that can actually put the interest of american citizens above all else. we're tired of being treated like second class citizens in our own country. we're tired of leaders that think we're garbage, and we're tired of being treated like garbage. [cheers and applause] you know, my opponent talked a lot about helping the working man, and i will agree with him on the need to to help working americans. but the difference is talk without action is nothing. so what we're going to do thanks to now having a republican majority, by the way, how about that? [cheers and applause] in the united states senate. [applause] and chuck schumer, if you're
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watching, thanks for the help in the primary, but you're fired, buddy. [cheers and applause] this is a new dawn of republican leadership. president trump and j.d. vance in the white house, we are going to advance an agenda that is an american agenda, an agenda that says we are pro-immigration but not pro-invasion. we're going to make certain that the people who come to this country are invited here, are invited here like i was, like my family was, on our terms. we're going to make this country an energy-dominant nation so that my kids do not grow up in a country where we ever rely on a foreign nation for energy ever, ever again. [cheers and applause] and and we have that energy right here in ohio. that means coal, that means natural gas, it means to oil and it means nuclear. and in terms of ev mandates,
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they need to be gone first thing in january. bret: bernie moreno, the winner of the u.s. senate seat in ohio. this is a major pickoff for an incumbent senator in sherrod brown that ran ads that said he was, you know, at least working with former president trump. he ran heavily on the issue of of abortion and thought that they were going to make headway there. there were all kinds of polls including the one we talked about earlier that had democrats fired up about women in the midwest. sherrod brown won in 2006, 2012 and 2018. he was pro-labor. they thought he was safe at the beginning. this race was well run by bernie moreno, and this puts them closer to a senate majority. he said it is a senate majority, or there's still the possibility that jon tester holds on in montana although he was behind going in, deb fischer in nebraska, we're is still watching that the race a very closely. but if they hold all of those,
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you could have a scenario where you're looking at 52-48, 53-47. martha: absolutely. you absolutely could. and it's worth pointing out that these senate candidates, if he is one of a few potentially as bret just said, they all closed very strong. i mean, these races were not considered competitive. you didn't see them on tv a lot because they weren't really considered to be in the game. but they are closing very strong, and we're going to keep an eye on all of them as they do. it's interesting to point out, his family immigrated here from colombia and, you know, he talks about the american dream, about immigrating here, and it raises questions about how immigrants feel about immigration because he is very much in favor of closing the border. bret: his brother was the ambassador -- >> so garrett tenney, our reporter in the midwest, he's done a couple of pieces for us on a couple of small towns, one in ohio and one in indiana that were completely just doubled overnight by immigrants. and he talked to families who
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have kids who are, like, they can't even go to school anymore, they dropped out because nobody can be taught, no one can find a place to live. i'll be very interested to see what sandra smith pulls out of that state of ohio. now, donald trump ran very strong in ohio, and that helped bernie moreno as well. i think it even helped ted cruz even though i think ted cruz was going always going to win. it helped him win by a larger margin. incumbents usually win, but this past four years has seen a remarkable amount of incumbents all a around the world up and down the ticket, you think of what happened to the conservative party, the tori party in the u.k., they lost -- torrey party in the u.k., they lost everything because it was throw the bums out, and kamala harris is basically weighed down by the biden administration, and she still couldn't come up with something she would change, and i think poem are reacting to that -- people are reacting to that. martha: a state like ohio, sherrod brown was able to hang on even hoe it's been a read
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a -- red state for quite some to time, and sometimes this ooh migration takes a couple cycles. bret: surprised by this bun? >> brown, there were a lot of democrats that thought the way you thought, that he's held on for a long time. he's run in tough races and he'd appealed to enough republicans over the years, but moreno was a great candidate. he hung in there. what it dose goes to show also, this issue of energy security, it's going to be interesting to see how this continues the play out in pennsylvania this even oohing. ohio and pennsylvania both, even montana where energy is a big, big issue, these three democrats may have run -- bret: don't you think that this shows you a little bit of a break in the blue wall? if this, if ohio's 10 points and bernie moreno takes off sherrod brown, don't you, as you're looking at wisconsin, or michigan and pennsylvania, say there are similar issues in these -- >> that's what i'm saying, the answer is a resound sounding, unfortunately for me, yes. i think you can bin to see where that crack could come if not a
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full collapse. >> can i make one last point? $1611 million spend -- 161 million on the no ray mow -- and and in part baa that's because they understand if we have one more of these things flip, think about of what that does to the supreme court -- >> and they're one seat away from the majority for the republicans, and the republicans have been counting as if it were a done deal all along on montana senate where there's very little vote in which i think is the reason it's a too a early to call. not too close to call because at this hour, bill, according to what you just showed me on that map over there, that wonderful map of yours, jon tester's well behind with only, what, 6% in. he's down -- >> just getting going a little with the there. >> 14 points, i mean, that's in line with what has been the expectation --
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bret: but, listen, if you look at ohio, it's similar issues to mike if rogers in michigan, and there are similar issues in pennsylvania for dave mccormick. we're going to take a quick break right here. the race to 270 slowly taking shape, the electoral votes needed to win. the vote count changing by the minute. check out that popular vote. check out the popular vote. our special coverage continues after this. ♪ ♪
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♪ bret: welcome back to our coverage of a big election night, and things are shifting by the moment. we are a too early to call right now, the decision desk says in georgia, north carolina, pennsylvania and wisconsin as you rook at these on the screen there, but you can see that georgia where the lead with 90% in, as bill talked about earlier, the atlanta vote, we're still waiting on that, and that could be why the decision desk is holding back there. north carolina also, 899% in -- 89% in, 136,000 votes, that's starting to get into territory which is tough to close depending on where that vote stands out. the big, obviously, states that a we're watching are pennsylvania and wisconsin, 65% and 75% in. but again, the former president leading now, and the question
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is, you know, how much of that vote showed up for vice president harris mt. philadelphia area -- in the philadelphia area, the suburbs, the bucks county areas in pennsylvania. also have an update from wisconsin. martha: indeed, we do. mike tobin is standing by with an update. this has really been the biggest problem area that we've seen at least so far. we're waiting for a number of these cities, but give us an update with what's copy on with the machines. >> reporter: we're hearing from official x they still want to push off the idea this was a legitimate mistake, and they have recounted these 31,000 ballots or retabulated them out of an awe by dance of caution. if you look at the back of the tabulation machine, you should be able to see to some red stickers. those red stickers are the seals. the seals were in place on these 13 machines. what was not engaged was the locking mechanisms on the doors there. the machines operated for hours when a republican observer
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noticed it, flagged that particular problem. the city and also the executive director of the wisconsin election commission says that that was, the 31,000 ballots were run through again, as she put it e, so no one could use a procedural misstep to call the legitimate votes into question, megan wolfe, the executive director of the wisconsin election commission. i talked with senator ron johnson, he said the wholes process is sloppy. >> -- done 5, 6, 7:00 in the morning with republican observers going, yep, that's locked, properly sealed. again, this has just been sloppy, and as the chairman of our party said, they've got one job to do. they didn't do it very well. >> reporter: now here at central count there are some 108,325 ballots. freeze the mail-in ballots -- these are the mail-in ballots and absentee ballots. some 80,000 have now been counted but the whole process has been delayed because 31,000
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had to to go through a second time. guys, back to you. bret: just an update from chad pilgrim talking about the house races. as we are looking at the senate and they're poised the take control if they hold the rest, the house is looking like it very well could flip to the democrats. a couple of races, vindman in virginia, we're not calling that, but they're looking really good. there's a few races in new york here, the brandon williams race,, to john man non. so dems, essentially -- we won't know until california where a number of those seats are up, they're doing what they need to do to hit the marks to slip the -- flip the house. so that could be a bright spot for democrats tonight. martha: we're going to to trace gallagher and august to him and his panel out on the west coast because we are waiting for a lot of california races. trace the, tell us about what you're seeing out there on the west coast tonight.
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>> and we're going to pick up the last three hours of this coverage tonker martha, so we're kind of gearing up for that. california, no surprise, went to kamala harris. interesting though because proposition 36, which is a big story here in california, that would rerise proposition 47 -- revise proposition 47 which really allowed crime in california to run rampant. we have our panel here steve hilton, owedty armor and gianno caldwell. prop 36 is winning traumatically right now. it's expected to win. -- dramatically. it would be a big deal for this state. >> it's a massive deal because it shows that people have had enough of this far-left attitude on crime. and it's not just that proposition. you see it on some of the other ones, on rent control, on raising the minimum wage. it's an interesting shift. and the other big part for us here in california, you look at this change, this massive reconstruction of the republican party under donald trump's
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leadership here in california, the largest group now, and this points to the future of the republican party because, actually, if you think about the latino vote, how long have we been told that the democrats benefit from a the diversity of the nation and the future? >> long time. >> look what's happening. the more diverse america becomes, the better republicans can do if we keep going with this new republican party that trump has fashioned. >> yep. it's a very good point. and, you know, it's interesting, kaylee mcghee white, because we talk about proposition 36, and kamala harris would not weigh in on this. she wouldn't say whether she voted for it or against it. and that's significant. >> and this was one of many policies where she refused to provide a clear answer on where she stood. and, you know, this strategy of avoidance which we've seen repeatedly throughout this campaign from her, it was a gamble. she thought because she was slipping in to campaign at the last minute and because she was running against trump that votes wouldn't notice or care that she
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was giving them a whole bunch of nothing. i'm from michigan, and even in the swing states it matters a lot where kamala harris stands on something like proposition 36. because if she doesn't want california to take crime serially, what about the rest are of the country in. >> and nobody takes crime more seriously than gianno caldwell. this is a big deal going forward for california, shuled this pass. >> that's right. and that's why i started the caldwell institute for public safety. i'm glad to see that many voters in the state of california have been pushing back against crime. unfortunately, gavin newsom has been very supportive of the initiative of prop 47. he thinks that there shouldn't be any changes. but this is a major problem. and i think we see this not just with this particular prop, but we've seen it with a lot of progressive prosecutors funded by george soros, people like george disaster con, and that's why nathan hochman if is predicted to potentially win this one really big. i think the democrats fashioned
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the idea that if you be soft on crime, there's going to be criminal justice reform when, in fact, it's been nothing but justice for the criminal. >> it's probably going to win big, jodi, but the governor of california is against it. he thinks it's going to raise the number of people going to california prisons. >> the fact that harris wouldn't answer the question about what a she voted on this, a former prosecutor, she said i'm the temperature top cop, you know, her bona fides are that she's law and order -- >> she was the one behind prop 47. >> right. is so she wasn't, she gives you that impression, blows whichever direction the wind blows, she's willing to go there. that was another example. she should have said i'm for 36, i see the error of my ways, i see crime going in a certain direction, whatever, but instead she does the weather vein routine -- >> you can't expect her to do that when she was posting about -- rioters and looters.
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this is something somebody who's about law and order. >> thank you all. martha, we'll be here later in the night when everybody gets tired there in new york, and we'll abouting it from there. -- we'll handle it there. bret: we're looking into a lot of different numbers, and as you know, this is all a baking. bill's at the wall trying to go into different places. wisconsin's on the board right now. bill, what have you got? >> just picked up something from "the new york times". i was trying to look at this on the map, and it's true. right now donald trump in the big cities of america -- miami, chicago, new york, dallas and houston -- he is improving on his margins from 2020 by double digits. think about that, right, since covid? think about immigration. you think about the homeless crisis. you think about how our cities have changed over the past four years. maybe that's had an impact.
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now, what i'm looking at here is wisconsin. just want to point out two things in wisconsin. i want to compare that to what's happening in pennsylvania, because i think there's a trend that that is favorable toward trump, okay? is here we go, dane county. take you back to 2020 and compare the numbers for biden and kamala harris, okay? so this is madison, university of wisconsin. ton of democratic votes in this county. is so she is underperforming biden's mark by about 1.7 points, and that translates the it could be tens of thousands of votes. trump is up, meanwhile, about 1.4 going back to four years ago. let me come up here to lacrosse. democratic votes here in lacrosse, right along the border with minnesota. this is the biden four years ago. it's not quite 23 the -- 22.5, but she's -- the -- 2.5, but she's close. trump doing better in that
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particular county in wisconsin. we'll keep an eye on that. come back to 2024. hang on one second, guys. we're going to pennsylvania. try and prove a similar theory, all right? two places. one is allegheny, pittsburgh, the other is philadelphia. we'll put this map into motion here, put the slide bar out, okay? she's merely meeting her number in allegheny, off half a point. trump's doing slightly better, .6 points. the last time i looked at that, she was dead even with the number from joe biden from four years ago percentage wise. come over here to philadelphia, because if you're a democrat, you've got to run your numbers up in philadelphia, and this kind of matches what i read from america's big cities. in philadelphia she's underperforming biden's mark from four years a ago, and trump is outperforming, overperforming where he was four years ago. so, you know, when you think about the number of votes that are available in philadelphia and you -- 30300,000 -- 300,000,
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right? that's a huge difference. i mean, you can run the totals up and never look back often times in pennsylvania if you're a democrat, running with a number like that. let's take this off the screen. come on back to to 2024, and you guys were asking how come we can't call north carolina. well, we may be getting closer because mecklenburg is in and wake is pretty much in. this is guilford. that's greensboro. got a lot of campaigning down there. it's a fast growing area too, about 322% of the the -- 2232% of the estimated vote is still outstanding. it's an impressive number. -- 3222%. -- 22%. pretty close to where biden was. the raw number is lower, but on a percentage basis she's just about hit her number, and trump's just a little higher. just a little bit there from four years ago. so maybe that's the reason you can't make a call in north carolina. maybe?
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maybe that changes in a moment here, we'll see. this is georgia. too soon to call yet again. let's see with 134,000, so 2.7. that that has been consistent, guys, for a while nowen on a percentage basis. trump is favored just under 3%. i can go hunt around trying to figure out why you can't call it. i would have to think maybe, you know, dekalb county, still got a little bit of vote out there. come up here as well, a little bit of vote out there, you know? democrats score their points in fulton, cobb and dekalb county, so too soon to call right now for the peach state. bret: bill, listen to this. jen o'malley dillon, i quoted from it earlier where they're painting the picture of the blue wall and how they're doing great things in pennsylvania and wisconsin and michigan. but at the end of this e-mail, she says we'll continue to keep you all updated as we get more information. this is what we've built for, so let's finish up what we have in
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front of us us tonight to be, get some sleep and get ready to close out strong tomorrow. so the biden -- the i mean, the harris campaign, sorry. it is the biden folks that run the harris campaign now, essentially saying, you know what a? let's pack it up and get some sleep -- martha: you know what that reminds me of? hillary clinton in 2016. >> exactly right. martha: john podesta came out and said we're all going to sleep on this and see how it works out, and everyone else was saying we're calling these states. bret: we may. stay with us. we're watching it all as our special coverage continues, and we could have some big calls coming straight ahead. whether they're up tonight or not. [laughter] ♪ ♪
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♪ martha: okay. let's bring in our panel, kayleigh mcenany, richard fowler and katie pavlich and our three steady eddies -- [laughter] they're not going anywhere. bret: they're chained, actually, to the desk. physically chained. [laughter] very sorry. martha: allowed breaks occasionally. so, richard, welcome. good to have you here. >> good to be here. martha: how are you feeling
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about how things are going? obviously, we've seen this memo from the campaign that says they are considering waiting to see how things look origin. can you answer to that at all -- tomorrow. >> i think we all knew this was going to be a long election night, it was going the take some time to count votes. what we're seeing sort of speaks to that in that we don't have a clear winner. there's still votes being counted, last time the i checked, i think 11 of the -- 1 of the vote in detroit was counted. i think for the harris-walz campaign, they're saying they're banking on this blue wall to win this campaign, so they're going to wait until those votes are counted. i think at this point nobody can spike the football until all the american people have had their say. martha: yeah, we haven't had -- called my of the -- bret: sean hannity. he said i'm not going to get over my skis, but i'm going to --
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martha: make a big prediction. [laughter] >> just based on looking at the data going into tonight but also the numbers on hispanic men, for example, and the youth vote, the fact that donald trump is running ahead of kamala harris according to a number of exit polls shows that their messaging to those groups aren't working9 and the question why? i think it's interesting to look at the slow death of identity politics that you're seeing in this election. kamala harris' campaign tried the argue that people should vote for her based on identity politics whereas the trump campaign, which was accused of being hitler, fascist, wanting to the, you know, implement -- get rid of democracy, essentially, is running ahead with those groups, and that's not something that they expected. those were the key people that they kneaded to get -- needed to get her over the finish line. the night is not over, but democrats are going to have to think about they're losing their coalition. you can't just argue that
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someone in your opponent is a nazi, essentially. you have to have something to the offer. and at this point they're looking at the numbers and saying if we're running this far behind in these places that we're looking at the votes, it's going to be a tough climb getting to the 270. martha: one of the interesting things that strikes me as you say that is that the character issue was dug into so deeply by the harris campaign and by democrats at large across the country. and, kayleigh, it looks like not only did the 48% that has been rock solid for trump throughout the entire with course of his run, not only did they not care about that issue, i think, you know, they say we know him, we've seen all of this, you know, what we watch is the policy are results, whatever they're saying, but added people on top of that despite these character issues that were so drilled on by kamala harris in this campaign. >> i think you make a really
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important point. and to -- two voters come to mind. there was a voter in "the new york times", they followed this group of undecided voters. this voter said pre-cam a harris 50.001% likely to vote for president trump. he didn't like him personally, he didn't like him. then kamala harris came on the scene, and he wanted the to know how she differedded from joe biden on inflation. he ended up discovering she doesn't, and he went for trump. i still the don't like the guy, but that tipped me over the edge. another voter i saw today, he had not voted in an election since obama. he said i am a blue collar worker. i am here to voting today because of no tax on overtime. and i think if donald trump prevails tonight, we have to look at his working man's agenda. in tax on overtime or, limit are on interest on credit cards, no, tax on tips. this holistic look that perhaps not just realigns the party on blue collar workers, but demographically as well.
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maria: -- >> just add to that. for years we've heard from the biden-harris administration that americans are not suffering. inflation was transitory, it's not happening, that has been something that the campaign has struggled with. they eventually came around to grocery prices being too high, or but their essential argument was donald trump is a bad guy therefore you should vote for us ooh even though we're not going to detail what our policy plans are. and a number of groups are saying we actually need some hard economic policy because we are hurting, and they've been told to either deal with it or that it's not happening. and the harris campaign has not had an answer for those folks outside of what -- >> i think that issue that donald trump is a bad guy worked for them in 2020 in particular. i mean, i -- people, people tell me all the a time no way joe biden got 800 million votes. -- 80 million. i think donald trump got those votes for joe biden. in the passage of time and with the record of the biden
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administration, those concerns faded. and while i think a lot of people voted for him without much enthusiasm for him, but definitely thinking it was a better deal back then than they were getting from this administration and have gotten from this administration. and if he wins tonight, brown, it'll be the fact that they looked back on his administration more fondly than they might have thought they could even two years ago. bret: we've said it before, dana, about what former president trump has faced. in you look at when -- what they call law fair -- lawfare, he still faces a incidentsing at the end of november -- a sentencing. he is still facing other cases. there is an appeal of the the attorney general's case, letitia james' case here that the appeals court looked like it was siding with donald trump -- >> yes. bret: concern and they could have a ruling that either strikes it down or reduces it dramatically right after the election each though vice president harris used that in
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many ads to say that he was, you know, convicted and also lost the civil case. it's pretty amazing that we are where we are. >>s. and i feel like i wish i were shannon bream right now -- [laughter] because i don't know all of the legal issues, but -- bret: you know the sense. >> ye with. i think, again, it's one of those things, you think of all he withstood, but it's also this result of these states that are coming in so far. it's because of what they did. right? and he didn't let it bring hem down. so he would sit in the courtroom all day, and then he would go campaign at might and do a rally, is and he'd be back in court the next day. and if you think about even just the kittivity of the campaign -- creativity, they were just beating her to the to the punch of every single time. bret: we're going to bring a quick call. martha: they completely dropped the felon argument. you don't even hear it. bret: decision desk can now project that former president donald trump will win the state
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of north carolina. this has been a contested state. vice president harris went there many, many times. democratic governor in the state of north carolina. you saw former president trump go there the a number of times, about four times in the past two weeks, to campaign. the campaign always felt that they were in good position in north carolina. now we can project that he will win the state of north carolina and its 16 electoral vote. the fox news decision desk can now also project vice president harris will win new mexico. that was a tight race. it had tightened in recent days, but vice president harris will win new mexico. so as we look at the race to 27 the 0, the electoral votes needed, it now stands at 232 for former president trump and 198 for vice president harris. martha: that makes north carolina the state in the battlegrounds that trump has won three times. it was the only battleground
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state that he locked down in 2020. so obviously a releaf at the trump campaign -- the relief -- that he has kept that one in his column as well tonight as we continue to move on. bret: peter doocy is live at the white house, what he's hearing from the harris campaign and the harris path tonight. peter. >> reporter: and we'll start with what we're hearing here at the white house, and that is nothing. they told us that president biden and some longtime advisers were inside watching the results come in on tv, but we have been here outside, and we have been noting that a lot of lights that were on within the white house at least from the part that we can see have been turning off. so it seems like some folks around here may be taking the campaign co-chair jen o'malley dillon's assed -- advice that they should prepare for ultimate results in the morning. three big change in the way that the harris team has been presenting their case to to us in the last couple hours. as results started coming in,
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they were telling us where they saw a silver lining in all of the battleground states. they were also telling us they thought they had a. [applause] if, case the win in all seven battleground states and something over the last 36 hours they've been pushing a lot is that they thought trump could come out and declare victory early of we are not hearing much of any of that anymore. the memo that the campaign co-chair put out is pretty broad and just something that they've been telling us since the summer went harris took over, that the blue wall was one of their pathways the victory. that is not new information. that is just what they have got right now. vice president harris remains at the naval observatory right now. we don't know if she's going to show up at her campaign headquarters. but they took, they took the press pool and they it would them just to stand by. and if joe biden is giving anybody watching an indication of how he feels about all these races that he has really not been a part of, or he's made
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six, congratulatory calls, four of the six are to people who just won in delaware where he is heading next. bret: peter doocy live on the north lawn, thank you. another call to make. martha: that's right. we can now let you know that the fox decision desk can project that vice president harris will, indeed, win the state of virginia. this was much closer, it was a state that the trump team said they felt they might be able to expand the map, but he did better than he did in the prior elections, but this has just been called for vice president harris. and president trump did better with non-married men than he did four years ago in virginia seems to be a theme that we're seeing in a lot of these states, that all according to the fox news voter analysis. bret: want to bring back our panel, but i want to read from an e-mail that came from jacqui heinrich. three sources close to the harris are expressing concern that a harris' path to victory may be too narrow to overcome. one source at the harris friends and family party says, quote,
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her path is so narrow, and she is not doing what she needs to do in pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. the exit polls i saw hours ago are all accurate. they need to suddenly outperform those. i don't believe it will happy happen. a second source to harris told me i 100% agree. his numbers are higher than expected in counties where he should be losing by larger margins in pennsylvania and michigan. a third source saying close to the campaign, i think we're losing this. i think we're losing this. hearing word that vice president harris may come the howard university soon but not for another hour. harold ford jr.. >> so consistent with those numbers, br everything t, the race -- that senate race in pennsylvania between bob casey and dave mccormick, it looks like mccormick with 81% of the vote in is leading by a point, point and a half. i think that race, if mccormick wins that race, i think it's likely to say that president trump will win the commonwealth as well. building on some of the points,
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reacting to some of the points where my friends on the other side of the table. you know, my party often says that donald trump can't do enough on the border. he rejected a bill that would have been a compromise, that he didn't lay out specific. he said no taxes on tips, no tax it is on overtime, that that wasn't a full-throated economic plan. and all that may be true, or but sometimes old politics and life isn't fair. and he's a different kind of candidate. i think if we look back, and this race is not over. we've got three, the blue wall here to hold, but if we look back at this, i think one of the things this campaign is going to to wish they had done probably more effectively was just lay out a bit of a plan if on the economy and inflation and growth. to maybe say we should have reinstated or kept in place some of the trump border executive orders as we look to find ways to do things differently. just going back and looking at things just wasn't working with voter, and the polling data showed that. and the fact that we have more wealth today than we did three years ago, more innovation, more
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oil than we did three yearses ago and they couldn't figure out how to run on that, how to capitalize on that. that's system of the things we're going -- some of the things, and if you guys are successful tonight, i hope president trump is willing to reach out to us as well and try to figure out ways in which to grow the country -- >> don't you think he's done that? look at the coalition he has built. i think there's been underestimation the of what the definition of protecting -- rfk jr., tulsi gabbard who was in charge of the dnc at a certain point, you're suing to keep rfk jr. off the ballot, nicole shanahan feels the same way, and people look at that and say -- >> the only thing i'm saying is bret baier wrote a great piece about unity and what about what happens, this is one of the most key the vicive -- divisive races, and if it's president trump that wins, it's time to heal and move forward.
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i think he'll have to do something. i don't disagree he built coalition, but it's going to the take more than that, and i'm willing to work with him as a democrat, but it's going to take each side -- bret: we're going to make a call here: stand by. martha: fox news projects that the republicans will take control of the united states senate. party will hold at least 51 seats which is enough for an outright majority. bret: the tipping point for this is nebraska where fox news can now project that incumbent republican senator deb fischer will defeat independent challenger dan osborn. the incumbent republican pulling this out, and that means because of bernie moreno and west virginia, that it now goes over the top as far as the senate majority, but we don't know the final number yet. martha: we're still waiting for the tim sheehy race against jon
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tester in montana which is one that, i think, a lot of republicans felt was something they were relying on. so we'll see if that turns out to be the case, and it's not clear yet who would serve as the next senate majority leader. leader mitch mcconnell announced earlier this year that he would step down, so there's a lot of speculation about who might take that role and, of course, that'll be the next conversation to have for the leadership in the senate. but right now a 51-seat majority for the senate, 42 seats for democrats. and this is, this is a big deal for if president trump wins again, he needs this majority in the senate. we don't know what's going to happen in the house if, indeed -- bret: yeah. and we have seen some evidence that democrats having some success in the house. the question comes in the west and california, but this is a big deal, brit hume, that this is a flip of the senate majority, and now chuck schumer will no longer be the majority
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leader. this is something that republicans looked at their map at the beginning and said this looks good for us. they didn't know how good, and we still don't know how good it's going to be tonight. >> yeah. and it raises the possibility that if trump win, he has the senate and, the question becomes then can the republican maintain control of the house. there's been a lot of confidence in the betting markets that they would throughout this evening, but just to keep you up to date -- [laughter] the margin on the betting odd has shrunk a little bit there. >> the fact is for mitch mcconnell, this is -- what a way to leave, right? with another win, again, and if president trump wins the presidency, another way to say he recruited great candidates this year. steve daines, who was the senator from who ran the whole operation, the senate leadership fund spent millions of dollars very strategically, and they had to help with $3 million at the last minute to help the senator of nebraska get across the finish line.
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they barely did, but she made it. >> sometimes amid harsh criticism of mcconnell from a not instant wing of the republican party open the right. >> yep. let's breath let's -- let's let's -- bret: breath let's also not discuss count the influence of president trump especially with bernie if moreno. we don't know in michigan, mike rogers, in pennsylvania, dave mccormick, and in montana, sheehy. >> this lead could grow. and there is a long, big conversation especially when you look back at midterm cycles about president trump potentiallying dragging down tickets and, you know, hurting senate candidates and, in fact, it seems like senate candidates are finding coattails with president trump. you know, interestinglying when we with assess the prospect of keeping the house majority, steve and a scalise said we need at least ankle 8 to 10-seat buffer because he expected should donald trump prevail that several house to members will depart and be various cabinet members in the administration.
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so you've got to start thinking about that. that's a political calculation you can solve on the inside, but something to think about nonetheless. i would just say this, the word here, the word on other networks that the i'm hearing constantly is the word underperforming for kamala harris. we're seeing it repeatedly, we're seeing i among demographics. underperforming. and while we don't have results right now, we do have trends, and the trends do not look good. bret: as we see on the screen here, this is wisconsin, this is hovde with 1.22 million to baldwin, the incumbent. if we could flip it over to michigan, mike rogers has a lead on slotkin in that race, 50.3 to 46.9. these races, they fall in the same cat glory. as i mentioned before, ohio, michigan, wisconsin, they have a lot of the same issues; energy, you know, all of them campaigned similarly. and they all a appear to be
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doing well and maybe outperforming. martha: yeah. and just a couple of things about the senate because remember that a vice president harris said that she was open to ending the filibuster if it meant that was what was necessary the to restore roe v. wade. there was also discussion -- not hammered too much on campaign trail, but the idea of making puerto rico and d.c. states has been kicked around for a long time, possibly expanding supreme court. so these are ideas that i think in many ways were galvanizing to a lot of voters. and we're seeing what's happening in the united states senate, so if this continues -- well, we know now that there's a majority, so at least in the short term, those things won't happen. bret: we'll continue with our panel. we have some more raw vote total coming in as as a lot of raw numbers as the race for 270 continues. could we make some more calls coming up? you'll have to come back. ♪ ♪
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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ welcome back. martha: a number of states were not able to call you. we are waiting for some big calls momentarily. we are still looking at some of the senate races. were still look at milwaukee we are waiting for pennsylvania, michigan, a number of these big battleground states. bret: wisconsin as well. in pennsylvania, a lot of rod
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note vote total coming in. we look in arizona it's a very tight early it's about half in. georgia now, seems like it is getting close at 93% in, 50.8. 83% in pennsylvania. bill, doing a chat about pennsylvania? >> guess we can hear. what i've got set up for you, what the night is all about, right? how do you get to 270? if you punch around on the map and see that margins i'm going to do something. i'm not getting ahead of anything here. i want to tell you as it stands right now if you were to call this entire thing kamala harris at 216, trump 2:30 two. i know you're going to make a call to midnight on the east coast. cox will come back. bret: it's a wednesday in york,
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