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we look in arizona it's a very tight early it's about half in. georgia now, seems like it is getting close at 93% in, 50.8. 83% in pennsylvania. bill, doing a chat about pennsylvania? >> guess we can hear. what i've got set up for you, what the night is all about, right? how do you get to 270? if you punch around on the map and see that margins i'm going to do something. i'm not getting ahead of anything here. i want to tell you as it stands right now if you were to call this entire thing kamala harris at 216, trump 2:30 two. i know you're going to make a call to midnight on the east coast. cox will come back. bret: it's a wednesday in york,
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time flies. can project vice president harrisville with the state of hawaii. the aloha state has voted for the democrat in every election since 1984. this was no different. martha: aishah hasnie's decision displeased vice president harrisville went nebraska second district the area around omaha, not a big surprise there either. bret: it's not you see 270, we are at 2:30 two -- 216 with these big races still pending. the path is getting narrower vice president harris. aishah hasnie's can project democratic senator from hawaii will win a third term the balance of powers we just said u.s. senate will go to republican trip control so far 51 -- 43. i get you see the white blocks there. we could see some more senate races continue to fall to the republicans way. so rudely interrupted built hammer by at midnight ticking
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down. cox it's all good. i just want to show you based on where we stand right now if we were to call the game trump is s it to 32. he just widened his lead and pennsylvania by four. still not enough. in georgia right now is lead him from 2.7 to two-point to. will check back at a moments here that is. we were to hang onto georgia 267 still not enough. i was looking at michigan a moment ago he was up almost five points in michigan. if it stays that way, it is his purities back in the oval office. if wisconsin stays where it is i just checked the number he would run it up to 92. if arizona one percentage points about 30 minutes ago we set point for announcers increasing his margin almost half the vote out the arizona count so it's okay will take that's our time on them. it would be 303.
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that is where we are. we could rent to the other states i would show you what i'm seeing there. georgia has not yet been called here. here's the margin 2.3 now. that popped up a tenth of a percentage point let's get through pennsylvania, yet again. it was before it's not on a 3.7. watch philadelphia, there still some outstanding about their well. let's go to michigan i said it was five right now is exactly five. 5.0. while we have you guys let's do tomorrow wisconsin where does it stand right now at midnight on the east coast, 3.9 in wisconsin. i see a lot of red on this map guys, a lot of red. usually seymour trickles a blue arizona of the southwest as of now that's where it is .4 percentage point trump leads in arizona you got half the vote in right now estimated to send a call. that is where we are will see if we get a call in a moment here. >> more and more as the night goes on tashawn hannity and that t-shirt.
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[laughter] week could be looking at a real tilt here. something that goes along way. not just the coattails we do not know about the house but the senate and we could be looking at something that is historic. >> basically what bill is describing here there's a lot better chance he runs all three of those states then vice president harris does it which illustrates how long the odds are it now. it could happen. she could do it. >> if it did happen it would look something like 1980. i mean, would be in landslide territory if he ends up taking all. quick sets on the electoral college is designed to take small margins and turn them into electoral college landslides make the outcome convincing. >> it said and if the blue walt only has cracks and has a lot of breakage on the inside, on the
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side. there's a lot of stuff happening here trump campaign headquarters, it has to be getting kind of fired up. >> really fired up. really excited mood here. a lot of moving parts right now. behind me bigger crowd know that's because a lot of folks are mar-a-lago who were parted h the former president started to trickle in we saw senator marco rubio. i saw tiktok video of the former president walking on his celebration party in mar-a-lago. i do not know what time that was taken he looked to be in a very good mood i'm told by folks in mar-a-lago the mood is very positive. i also know now house speaker mike johnson who was in shreveport, louisiana his own party is now on a plane in route to mar-a-lago to come here and celebrate the former president. all around, all the signs are indicating there is going to be a victory celebration here tonight here shortly.
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all eyes on pennsylvania. pennsylvania, pennsylvania to only state here anybody wants to talk about that's what they're waiting to be called that's when this place is going to get lit, guys. back to you. [laughter] >> as they say i hear they say that. they do. let's go to jacqui heinrich at the harris campaign headquarters in washington. we spoke about your reporting just a short time ago of some pretty dour moods at least three people very close to vice president harris. ♪ yes there were some more color forwards then that that i would never dare send over e-mail. overall the sense i'm getting from multiple people close to the campaign in close to the vice president is the vibes are very bad every those three sources believe her path is a narrowing so much it will be very difficult overcome.
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right now the campaign though is still maintaining none of her paths to 270 have closed. even when i push them on north carolina race call can you update that? and they said the clearest path is the blue walt. a lot of distance between the messaging for the campaign and what we are seeing from the insight of the operation from sources we are speaking to. the exit polls they have been watching, are saying are accurate. she would need to outperform and turn things around what's coming in is not showing that likely or possible. one of those sources put it the most bluntly, i think we are losing this. right now the crowd is thinning out a little bit. but at the same time we have not gotten any updates officially who to expect here, when to expect them here. there's not been any messaging to the people waiting out here who might be greeting them later
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or even when it will update you will be find out more about that. some a closely vice president set looks like she's probably going to come down here in hour or so from now. she will give him a message when she does. they are probably formulating whatever that is going to be. there's been a lot about how long it takes for the outstanding balance to be counted and may be given if everyone awaiting something to hang onto. and they've also been talking the last few days about of course the process of making sure the vote is accurate and any challenges go to the regular lawful process. we will update you forget anything official from them. right now the official is not aligned with what we are hearing from sources inside. thirty-five people aren't leaving there still there? martha: she said some of the people trickled out didn't you say that? >> yes. i don't know if we can pan over
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this probably another crew that will be blocking us. there is a big gap in the grass this was filled with people dancing a short while ago. it's kind of empty now. there are a couple different stages here. we were told earlier in the night the reason there were two stages is there is a remote location in a a studio where hs could potentially go in a pipe video in if the race was still outstanding. if enough of these states remain uncalled and needed to go into another day. but it does not sound like that's going to be utilized tonight but we are hearing a word she could be coming here to say something. it will don't know who desmet go-ahead. bret: we here at new edition in the background there may be a new edition to make here in a call we are having in a few minutes. i want to do that if i could make that transition. martha: really well done.
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[laughter] [applause] bret: didn't really work. [laughter] >> spellbound by that would sorry about that let's bring our panel and we have the chain gang over here on the right. [laughter] chained to the desk they have not left. mark you haven't been on, what are your thoughts? looks when i interviewed donald trump up more a lot of the day after the second assassination attempt we were talk about the previous election. i pointed out in 2020 was decided by a handful of swing voters in swing states this election probably would be as well he said to meet maybe or maybe a lot. i have a feeling it might be a lot. looks like he might've been right. if it turns out the way this seems to be coming at the greatest political comeback since 1892 in grover cleveland lost the white house and won it back what it means love him or hate him donald trump is not a once in a generation he's a want in the century talent. keep in mind this is a match of
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the democrats wanted they thought trump would be easier to beat. part of the reason they launches campaign of welfare against him was to rally republicans around him so he would be the nominee. that may have been a grave, grave political miscalculation. bret: trey gowdy i'm struck by the strategy of the trump campaign he wanted to do all these rallies. he dug into that strategy in a big way. also he said immigration, he felt was a more important topic than the economy even though the economy kept coming and higher on people's issues list. when you look at the city chicago, miami, all of these places, one of the embedded issues in those cities is the bird and they have had under immigration. so maybe he was right? >> he was definitely right. immigration and the border is kind of a microcosm rule of law.
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what kind of country we are going to be. whether or not you're going to have to follow the rules. to take the oath of citizenship the law is used six times for new citizens it does not make a lot of sense to break the law and then swear an oath you're going to follow it. my friend mark, who knows more about politics and i do use the work comeback it's really more akin to a political resurrection. if you would've asked b on january the seventh or after the fourth of the four indictments i would've told you i see no way that he'll be the nominee or the president. and now it looks like, sean may be right may be 300 electoral votes i'm calling my senate friends some of them don't take my calls the other require me too now call them chairman. [laughter] they will not go by senator anymore. [laughter] mike rogers, eric is up, it could be a 54/55 which mean
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trump gets his cabinet. some of the folks we heard for his cabinet might not survive in a 51/49 said it. they will be confirmed in a 54/46 senate. cookson talked about the house earlier in some races the democrats outperformed in the east coast. but, you would think in this environment with these coattails that maybe they end up hanging on if you get out west in the middle of the country and longer. how do you see that? >> even chairman richard hudson who's been running the national nationalrepublican congressional committee yesterday said going to gave it will be double digits but somewhere between three and eight seats have been projected 290's senate electoral votes have been projecting. and a 53 seat senate. fifty-five, 56 to be remarkable. it also goes to show us not just the blue wall cracking for trump it's these workers, the steelworkers union jewish
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americans around philadelphia, detroit, pittsburgh they just had enough. this is a time there breaking ranks. i think if you can hold onto the house, he really insulates himself from any of these impeachment shenanigans and whatnot. i have got to tell you if this is a decisive victory, we are not there yet but if it is a decisive victory i think the democrats have to think thrice about the strategy they have put on his shoulders like an anvil. they really thought that would get rid of him. no one has been more insulted, investigated, impeached, indicted, convicted take his name off the building, take them out of the family business, take his name off the belt but you name it they tried it. and the assassin's bullet of course. i would think thrice if i were them. i wondered this is there a democrat in the senate or house he can rely upon to help get his agenda through? none but if of the tax cut jobs at the first time it's benefited all their districts in some form or fashion for there is no
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question. bret: may be the ones who cited him in commercials may all go down. quick some are losing their cars are not authentic. as bob kays 895, 96% of the time you cannot bear hug donald trump. one thing i want to put out in the data, on the fox news analysis has harris winning college educated women by think 10 points. real clear politics average polls show she was going from 9% to 18% basically doubling biden's margin. that's not coming true tonight pretty think that was her best demographic path to make up these of their deficits. we are just not seeing it tonight. i think it's too much abortion, too much awoken us, not enough inflation immigration. martha: the other issue that was so central for her is abortion. i am watching these referendums a few of them have passed through new york has passed. maryland pass, florida did not
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pass. but what we are seeing is people seem to be separating it from the rest of the picture and voting their will. >> you might want to jump on this is open the voters are telling you since may of 2021 the immigration and inflation and the economy are the number one issues it has been consistent every single month since then, maybe you should listen to them. now for some people, abortion pro-life or pro-choice is that i brought issue. if you are single issue voter. but, if you look at all the polls that wasn't their top issue it was always economy, immigration, crime. sometimes democracy. but down below abortion, foreign policy, et cetera. i think some of the state referendums that worked very well for them in 2022 did not do as well for them in a presidential election.
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>> it is a realignment of the republican party buried there is no doubt but we sought in 2016. it is now fully implemented in the face of what was everybody's point, fascism, hitler, not c, madison square garden, puerto rican comedian they said was going to move the puerto rican boat around the country. this is a major realignment people could look all the mass media. all the media covering that one way. and say i don't believe it. i do not believe that i'm going to vote how i want to vote. >> we could go back a number of years into all the false alarms. although full stories are written about trump while he was president and date the beginning from back in that. in terms of the loss of credibility of mainstream media. people in the end did not buy it.
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because they were saddled with the person i think is the weakest presidential candidate ever seen. she was up so the weakest. one of the reasons why they did not do some of the things related to issues that you mentioned is that they had a candidate who could not pull it off. she did not have anything to say. bret, you had an interview with her in k with one bec closet you asked her about when she first figured out but it wasn't all there she completely booted it. what are you going to do with someone like that your campaign advisor? there's a limit to what you can do. >> on what nancy pelosi is thinking tonight and chuck schumer who went over too biden's residence and said look, this is over. joe biden is the reason kamala harris is a candidate. when a posting on social media dropped at the next when he said she is your person all talk of
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the many primary and dissolved right then. harold, your thoughts on that? >> again with not declared any of this you want to be careful it looks as if this is heading at a certain direction. i do not disagree with the law that is been said. i recall not long after bret's interview with the vice president i believe she went on arrival network the first question asked of her was with the first piece of legislation you would like to get past? she punted the question and said she wanted to be bipartisan how do you not say border security they reach out to republicans and say roe v wade i want to restore something substantive and positive that's consistent with your message are consistent with where the country was to go. again i didn't want to recognize political obituary here presidential race obituary until the race is been declared but i do hope if it looks like what's going to happen, happens i do hope everybody can be gracious and magnanimous for there's no doubt this is a grace political comeback we have seen and heard my friend marc talk about the 1892 reference you are likely
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very right to read the political resurrection of my friend trey gowdy i called one of your friends he may be called mr. cha german also this evenin. [laughter] but we have to be gracious in the moment. i hope maybe democrats want to reach out to president trump and reach out to republicans in the senate. we'll see what happens of the house and. again we have not declared anything. >> built hammer, we are waiting on georgia, right? >> we are waiting on a lot of things. were waiting on pennsylvania, wisconsin, why georgia do you think? quickly pop on down there nice little pretty map set up for you guys. i can come back to it. here is georgia. here's the remaining boat. what i see is a lot of the vote in atlanta metro area is in. there's fractions here infraction there.
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i see chatham, savannah, sought a small county five out of 159. it's got about one third of the boats remaining as well. we are not quite set up for the vote margin there. >> >> to pennsylvania just want to check in. >> was poking around here a moment ago wisconsin if you do the remaining boat the reason we put in these different shades of purple is because the deeper the purple the more outstanding the vote. the lighter the shade of the gray that means a c the county s checked in already. you see down here milwaukee a little more than half is reporting a milwaukee. some suggestion the middle of the night three or 4:00 a.m. milwaukee expects to go ahead and give us the remaining boat. this is michigan right now. this is the remaining boat out that is outstanding. a lot of this is a role in the upper peninsula for a lot of this is rural appear a lot of the votes outstanding but this is a waning county. this is detroit too. only 23% of the vote has been
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reported. 75% outstanding. seventy-five and 77, somewhere in that range. a lot of votes in detroit. that something they can overcome on harris' side i do not know. let's pop out to the southwest what got you guys. let's go here. okay, this is a change here. .7 now, 13365 for trump in arizona. let's just see this. you've got rural out here, apache of got a lot of republican votes out here i'm sorry mohave my bet on them. maricopa is the big one, 60% of the vote statewide is here in maricopa. she has a slim lead to point to that is not move the folks in arizona told us before the night began it's going to be a process. it's going to take them a while too. if you ask this question at the decision desk they may tell you one thing. the one thing i can tell you is
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on a poke around on this map the main population centers in michigan, wisconsin and philadelphia as well the state of pennsylvania are still outstanding as of now. bret: a lot more to dig into brit lot more calls to make from the data coming in for the biggest surprise is that blue wall. our coverage continues next.
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your cold is coming! thanks...revere. we really need to keep zicam in the house. only if you want to shorten your cold! when you feel a cold coming, shorten it with zicam (revere: hyah) ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪. martha: a lot of vote in there still several states who are very important that are still too early to call pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan, georgia. states have been talking a lot over recent weeks purple went to get all the data in. bret: if you put up on the board we can show we are closing in. there is a lead in the lot of the states. you look at what is left out there. pennsylvania 86% and, michigan slow early at 52%. and then 80% and wisconsin. 93% in georgia. we are going to dig into georgette a little bit. and in fact let's start down to
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madison in atlanta. madison, why haven't you made a call? [laughter] >> i've been getting that question from a lot of folks on the ground here. obviously fox has not called georgia the state this crowd celebrated at 10:30 p.m. that is when gop chairman got on the stage he called it for trump here in georgia. again obviously fox news has not called. at this a party they very much have the party happened at 10:30 p.m. they've been cheering on the other states haven't called their waiting to hear why the foxnews decision desk is not made that decision yet. a lot of things they are looking at that has them excited their e certain counties like baldwin which is an area that usually evokes a pretty democratic. that's an area that is now favoring for trump. it's also predominately black it has two universities they are. the fact that air is going for the former president probably
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says something about the young black vote and the young vote in general. you probably heard some cheering because they have us up on the screen behind me. they have a sound because the people are waiting for you to make the decision. like i said at 10:30 p.m. they called overdrawn but waiting for fox news to make that official decision. bret: madison, that area has really come around in recent years but they thought the harris campaign thought they had a real shot in georgia. we have not called that yet. there is an excitement there friendly going to get over the top. >> absolutely there is excitement here. the fact georgia will most likely former president trump again based on things like enjoy this moment. we worked hard for this, enjoy the fact we are bringing safety back to america. they are very happy there can
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it's probably going to take the win here. i've been talking to voters on the ground for days now. i've got a lot of people who said they waited and took time to make their decision. ultimately came out to trump for them. very dedicated voting base and in this room or at the goper watch a party. >> madison thank you so much. either way there's not been a lot of count in georgia in the last 45 minutes or so but we'll see where that stands. >> will see where that is going. what about tennessee which recalled a really long time ago. what's happening in tennessee? pete can answer that question for us because he is in nashville. did you hear that we called tennessee? bret: a while ago it. [laughter] works 0% of precincts reporting. i very much appreciate. so did the crowd here. my kind of state. my kind of st state too. were having fun at work kid rocks in downtown nashville on broadway.
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behind me i have got a lot of intelligent independent women behind me. [cheering] who are really fired up about the outcome tonight. it's like john madden and pat summerall calling a football game. every call you make this crowd erupts. when they are robbed is based on a call you are making. it has been fascinating to watch the energy in the room increase as the odds have moved in favor of trouble waiting. we've been talking to voters all nights. this is what i love about election night you guys know that you got pundits, you've got polls and on election night the people speak the people here are watching. this may be a bright red state or their vote does not necessarily a matter in the electoral college they are watching their fellow americans cast ballots on behalf of the candidate they believe in. there's a lot of energy. i think it represents a lot of the living rooms families of
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four or five are chanting usa as you guys are bringing in the returns be a lot of hope the former president will be 47. it's just a matter of when it might be called for thank you for an stoelting us on fox nation but we wrapped up coverage you guys are doing a phenomenal job. bret: thank you, pete, always in good music down there. martha: say hi to everybody for us down there. bret: let's bring in our panel. her regulars to the right. sandra, great job looking into fox news voter analysis. what he looking at? lexi have not talked about fracking in pennsylvania as we do wait on results to continue to come in their great views on fracking obviously key in the state. we note kamala harris flip-flopped on the issue. we are looking at how voters responded to that. 62% of pennsylvania voters say they favor expanding fracking in that state. those voters back rope world tw.
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michigan union voters that vote is looking about the same with her fox news voter analysis when we compared to 2020 what might make the difference or donald trump and michigan catholics. he is at 61% of the vote with catholics harasses at 37%. trump won white catholics by 13 points in 2020. he has run that up to 24-point margin. that's a big difference. that is a big difference. >> you wonder she should have gone to the dinner. >> the l smith dinner. she may be wondering that tonight's but he showed up gave his speech and he has had a lot of support based on the pro life if you. >> rfk junior was cutting ads for the catholic vote in particular in battleground states. >> i'm sorry for is going to say when you look at the margins at least at this moment in wisconsin and michigan somewhere in florida rfk junior may be breathing a sigh of relief.
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he could've been a spoiler in those but it looks, at least at this point the market is big enough. >> week you have to bring up the youth about again. what a difference we are seeing from four years ago. those voters going harris over trump 8.4 years ago they beat bedivided by 25 points. this is a huge difference but you dive at the state level you're seeing the difference that makes outperforming earlier leading into this for. >> how crazy that the younger candidate there is a lot of talk a younger candidate would draw younger voters. your bio and threw them in larger numbers and joe biden appeared to have. >> you been on the back end of nights like this to been digging into the numbers. what more do you have for us now? >> 30 ago. so ago. same one. >> where it all began goes on to pennsylvania. it was settled the contest to be
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mathematically impossible for her to win. bret: as you looked at tonight would you see as it unfolded? what does it infolded a little bit of change. earlier in the evening at that look like he was doing slightly better in the big city urban areas. some suburbs like georgia he was not doing as well. but tonight in pennsylvania for example he's doing better and all the southeastern suburban counties as well as doing better in the rural parts of the state. it is an unusual coalition. it is inner-city ethnic spirits catholics who have been for decades the principal swing vote in america. increasingly hispanic among them. he is knit together that coalition tonight along with the working class people small towns and rural parts of the country for. >> one data point on pennsylvania and the white catholics. looks like trump is running
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exactly the same as 2020 but in fact trump was down a one point in pennsylvania but that's about the same but union voters three pointpoint is running blows 2020 levels. survive there still hope for the blue wall for the harris campaign paid when you hearing? >> if there is still hope obviously i would love to see go take a nap will get back to the morning about all this. but we do have to keep in mind the race in 2020 was not called for days. bided one pennsylvania on friday of that week in wisconsin on thursday i think it was. so we will see. they think it's closer's votes coming in there was some conversation over how much remaining vote in philadelphia there's extra 120,000 votes. they were out there that could go into harris' column. two things i've been thinking about. one commentator knows this as well how much i love to throughout a good doorknocking
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stat. 2000 door knocks a minute for the harris campaign. we'll see of this pans out she could win with the simple getting nebraska second period the harris campaign ran a conventional campaign raising money souls to the polls that be the path going forward? the second thing is that this does not end up going in harasses direction barring some big change she will have underperformed biden in 2020 every single demographic college educated women even with college-educcollegeeducated wome overwhelming when we thought it was going to be or it was projected in some of these very prominent surveys. when you think about the fact there were some people i didn't think we were going to win iowa we had seen surveys he was only up five in kansas or three in
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ohio. it's going to take a lot of refocusing to understand really what happened here. it does not seemed like it was one decision that harris campaign i'm sure if there is a she loses pennsylvania there be a lot of dropship your discussion for this feels bigger than having him on the ticket are going to the al smith dinner. when she was profit potential for one of 50000 votes in philadelphia county i saw your head spin around. is that not make sense to you? lexi no we are pretty good at saying 89% of the vote is in or 95% of the voters in. and not turning out to be -- that turns out to be accurate. very rare i cannot imagine one instance where we have looked at her number and see 90% of the vote in her 85% that turned out to be grossly offered. i will say this i want to follow up on one thing. think about all that she had to
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face. this is an abysmal number when it comes to the approval of the sitting president. no party has elected a president when you're sitting incumbent has low job approval as this president had. take a look at the right direction wrong track. two thirds of the american people to the country's going in the wrong direction. when she represents a party in power. to me it's amazing she's come as close as she has. she was the vice president very unpopular administration. and yet tonight, british made the point early earlier the elel college will serve the purpose of translating a relatively small difference between these two people look at pennsylvania and yet at the end of the day i was series of victories that are one, two, three points are going to generate a commanding number
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in the electoral college that tp the new president, president again if it looks like it's going to be more effective. bret: harold ford are there going to bite and people that said he could've been better? >> it's hard to make that case for some of the reasons i think they have made the point. i listened to sanders data. i'm curious as we get a day or so away from this, let's look at what happened with the performance amongst women did she win african-american women, hispanic women, where their witr disparities between the two? i'm going to be curious also per week are the numbers around hispanic voters but even black blackboards where that might be. normally you see a race in the country of the cultural issues impact as you talk about the suburban areas are some places he was not performing see the suburban areas in pennsylvania and elsewhere the economic issues, fracking and the
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livelihood of those communities were at stake we have a cultural issues. the issue around transgender rights was a bigger issue that democrats could really understand what it meant. what it meant for girls playing sports. i'm a father but a son and a daughter. what it means when boys are playing a little girl sports and going in the bathrooms. i don't think we've gotten her head fully around that issue. will be a lot of reckoning into jessica's point a lot of reimagining who we are as a party. which i think will be good for the party if indeed the trend continues where it is this evening. bret: not going to belabor this point but for a candidate who democrats who really were aggressive and media that echoed that called him a racist and a nazi, and yet today to see the black vote and the hispanic vote going exponentially more than it did before is really quite something. it's just startling.
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>> it's a further sign of the influence of the mainstream media. which tends to take its cues from the very least from the democrats. and to root pete that charges made in sometimes outlandish claims he's made about donald trump. >> we could be getting ready for call here soon. we are going to stay here where going to go to bill hemmer but you look at pennsylvania can you hear me? >> yes i can they were talking to me. bret: why am i always talk into and they are talking to you? >> i know. bret: pennsylvania were still looking at. were also look at the national popular vote. which he is currently leading. >> one thing i was looking at here, this is philadelphia. this is 2016. this is trumps the margin in philadelphia. fifteen and a half, okay? he co goes back four years later philadelphia is a republican running in a blue, blue, blue
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part of the state is just shy of 18. so where is he tonight? he is almost 21. so hold on that for a moment here, okay? there is a reason for this. >> is a nice move. looks like that you caught me off guard. [laughter] let's go ahead and look at the boat difference for pennsylvania. things i want to show you right now, we talked about this democratic march over here we talk about the blue wall here is where we stand right now. trump is just shy of three percentage points taken on 2.7 at the live number that continues to come in. go ahead and clear this. kevin, widen out there a minute. let's look at the vote margin for pennsylvania. i want to show the blue wall and if it has moved every direction
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for the past three decades isn't about to move in the same direction yet again? there are three counties here in philadelphia that really tell a story. these are flipper counties look at northampton. northampton is above philadelphia. trump is leading in northampton. the flip has flipped back to trump by about five points. look at the other end of the state in erie. erie is one of these bellwethers as well. kamala harris has been leading there most of the night. about 30 minutes ago erie flipped. in center county, right smack dab in the middle of that t that you normally get in pennsylvania center county has always been the exception. it has been blue that is where penn state university is located. that's another indication about how well trump has done in pennsylvania thus far tonight. there's a real good chance he
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flips all of those and maybe more shortly. i want to show you that. we'll go ahead and clear. i give it back to you guys. bret: it is really interesting part will get some action we hear the former presence going to his party in west palm part was seeing sedrick richmond in the harris launch party. let's listen. >> votes to count, we still have states that have not been called jet. we will continue overnight to fight to make sure that every vote is counted. that every of voice has spoken. so, you will not hear from the vice president tonight. but you will hear from her tomorrow. she will be back here tomorrow to address not only the h acute family. to address her supporters, but to address the nation.
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so thank you. we believe in you. may gomay god bless you. may god keep you go to harris it. thank you all. [cheering] [applause] seafort sedrick richmond campaign cochair it's hard to ignore the fact this is the mirror image of 2016 when john podesta, hilary clinton campaign chair came out around the same time of night and said we are still counting votes you will not hear from hurt tonight, you will hear from her tomorrow. bret: which is fighting and by the way it howard university campaign party is. the vote is still going. they are not stopping. the accounting is still continuing in wisconsin, and michigan, and pennsylvania, and arizona, and nevada. so, as you start getting to a decision here and we could be getting close to a decision. we will see where we are in
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georgia or there have been othr calls for georgia. we are now in michigan, bill hemmer seeing some movement. >> up over six points, 6.3 now the margin is getting larger for trump here. that wrought vote count assuming 10,000 if you start doing math and you think what is outstanding and detroit, wayne county it's a lot it's a sizable amount of boats out there whether or not there's enough of votes and once they announce and release. >> he has closed three campaigns in grand rapids he just closed this with their last night. >> can currently has been stubborn for donald trump. i think he would probably confess that this is a flipper from 2020 when joe biden took it from the trump team. right now and can county she's got a pretty comfortable lead of about 10 points it. it's a remarkable thing we think about it. the gerald ford museum is that we talked about five hours ago
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at the realignment of american the south primary like north carolina, georgia, perhaps parts of florida pretty don't think about realignment in michigan necessarily. but this has been an area that donald trump wanted to win. there is a reason why he started his tradition in 2016 by concluding his campaign in kent county, grand rapids for he did again in 2020 to losing effort he did it again this past week and monday night at midnight and rolled into florida at 5:30 a.m. in the morning those yesterday morning. no it wasn't, that was this morning, wasn't it? right okay are you following me on the calendar? it has been stubborn. it appears it will stick that way as well. kent county and grand rabbits will stay in the blue column. it's a changing area in michigan. what i'm seeing right now even though he about 60% of the vote
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in i'm seeing a lot of a red lining up and down lake michigan. for a while that change seemed to be shifting a little bit. there's a county here, beautiful part of the world. that had seemed to drift in the democratic column as well but trump has a firm grip on it now 16 points. i will go w west i'm sorry south of muskegon south of grand rapids. for years this was like a republican trump kept it that way in 2020 winning by 21 and a half points in 2016 in ottawa specifically ran away at 30 points. and so it will stay that way tonight. let me come out to real-time data here and let you know where we are statewide. you've got some boat out there. you see this margin here again just as i'm talking here guys, it is taking higher 200 10,000, 6.3 percentage point lead in
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michigan. i'm not going to say it because it's not my job but it looks like the blue wall could stay intact yet again for another year votes in unison with the winning party who takes the white house that year. martha: since 1988 that is held. bret: you think are getting ready for call. fox news can canal project the e of georgia will go to former president donald trump. this was a hard-fought battle. if you think about georgia loses tit last time to president biden by 11779 votes. for some reason that number sticks in my mind left back this is a big win. he went there, campaign there and so did vice president harris times. digging george georgia could sn the democratic column. martha: he had a difficult relationship with governor brian cap if you remember four years ago after losing georgia they
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tried to salvage two senate races in georgia a month later special elections, that did not go well either. this is a very big win for former president trump to have this redemption in georgia. bret: we are electoral college vote at 248 for trump and 216 for harris. we have a panel welcoming in a member of the fox news decision desk walk welcome in one williams and karl rove. during we've got you out here are we calling georgia and then you push the button. martha: re: her to tell us your right when you call georgia? was it that you're going to come down and grill me and we preempted that. >> would also get a call? [laughter] what you got a call georgia in the nick of time. [laughter] bret: while we have you, how do you see this night? was it like you thought going in? as you look at the blue wall? >> two things.
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this is unprecedented by my the mortonmore data i saw the more possibilities seem to unfold a couple weeks ago i didn't think it happened i didn't think trump could win let's say the national but i'm not saying he's going too. that was something nobody thought would happen if that is capped at 4748%. that is a possibility give a lot of conversations whether these theswing states were to move together or crack and each move separately. there is a possibility i didn't think this would happen earlier in the afternoon you could sweep all of them. it's not a prediction but it's something within the realm of possibility of the data we are seeing. bret: you're saying blue wall turns into redwall? what sets possible people talked about michigan in particular being the tough estate for trump to crack. now, bill showed the data we've been looking out for hours in michigan is looking difficult for her right now. martha: all these tossup states have been within a point or two.
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is there any way to look at what you see now and say this could be a win in a larger percentage than that? a lot of these are so close. >> that we are looking at right now we have model data at work looking to reach a certain level of statistical's significance to make call public of the outstanding when the case of georgia were milam entered 35000 outstanding boats, a lion's share were coming from suburban atlanta. she needed to hit 55 or 56%. she was getting about 45%. at a certain level it becomes a statistical possibility. the more room you get there's more room to grow or do better than she's performing that trigger the call in georgia. were not quite there yet in the other states. this may not be an election or we need to be here until thursday or friday. bret: w when they say go home, relax, you are saying maybe not yet? click see if they continue to count too. arizona and nevada have been stubborn about that.
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we understand in nevada they do not allow any counting until the last vote was cast which is where getting basically nothing from nevada so far but arizona is coming in in droves it's a close race there. wisconsin and michigan, michigan is counting 5455%. wisconsin at 2:00 a.m. and 2020 counted 90% of the muslim i haven't updated wisconsin may beat michigan. we may have some resolution quicker than we thought. bret: in pennsylvania sean talked about this earlier in the early vote on what that look like and what she would have to do day of in philadelphia and the counties right around there. is it possible that still out there and that's possible to do? >> it seems to be a probability diminishing by the hour. this is something from the georgia dated we've also seen in pennsylvania. african-american men did not
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come home. part of the african-american vote came home to her. a lot of it didn't and there's a gender gap there. i have to run the numbers and i'm not going to lay this at the feet of any demographic group in particular but she really did seem to underachieve under african-american males especially young african-american males. >> in mice to think about michelle obama and barack obama the former president at the very strong appeals that they made per michelle obama said don't your husband or boyfriend's rage dictate your vote. president obama talks about bringing out brothers and scolding them that did not seem to have been a strategy that worked. bret: the fox news voter analysis track with what you saw with rock vo robert vote issue n the states? >> yes. but we are doing early on we get an early b vote from indiana and kentucky it allows us to kind of figure out is it performing consistent with the data?
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a couple states trump over performed a bit florida was one. we were a little concerned we might be overestimating trump's performance in rural areas but the more data it we got the more that did not seem to be the case he was basically hitting what we thought he would hit. bret: got the brain here does anyone else have a question? >> i am curious about immigration what you've seen in terms of how much that played into the votes and some of the states. >> the one thing we can say it did not repel people there's some talk about the hispanic vote coming home over the issue of immigration. that did not seem to happen much at all. they suggested 40% was trump's performance amongst latinos. that en in it being 13 or 14 pos and said he's will get 15% 40% of hispanic vote that's an awful
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tough night for democrat to win an election. some are reporting trump is one fury county, pennsylvania. >> i think he was on i don't know if bill's got the latest data. >> it was a moment ago here. went back to the trump team right now currently just to keep you guys up to date, he leads by a .1.4 it's a little less than 2000 rowboats. >> 99% in? >> statewide 90%. i have a question for you. when you think about the blue wall in the upper midwest, when we were at the convention in milwaukee in july it ended on a thursday. on a friday we had that national computer glitch like all the airports were shut down. all the delegates all the journals all the campaign were stranded at the airport in milwaukee. i was thinking at the time about
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why did i just seek kid rock and hulk hogan and dana white? i went to the campaign as it was going on there? it was meant it was white men. they said we notice in the upper midwest the time to think about minnesota, wisconsin, michigan, ohio to a lesser degree in pennsylvania is with her thinking about face it we notice a certain percentage of white men who vote in 2016 is are there evidence that those white males in those upper mid if west states did the that tonight? >> there was sort of a rule of thumb we were adopting, and we spoke about this a little bit earlier in conversation with y'all, but that, you know, the gender gap is a double-edged sword. it can help or hurt depending upon the absolute level of support. we were looking at 55. in other words, if trump was hitting 55% with men, that was a good sign. if harris was hitting 55% with women, that was a good sign.
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and in the upper midwest states, he was getting closer the that sort of magic number than she was. so whether you call it the bro strategy or whatever, it seems to have paid some dividends up there. i mean, it's still -- we're still waiting, but, you know, it's looking pretty good for him. bret: so we can definitive ily say that the poll we don't talk about in iowa was kind of off. "the des moines register" poll. >> i love ann seltzer. she's a giant and a pioneer in our field. what we were looking at, ironically, was not so much the top line in that race, but what a exemptioner had said was -- seltzer had said was senior women were breaking away if trump over the abortion with issue. and i think our friend had a really good observation where he said that a may be true, but it may not help harris because that could occur in iowa where abortion was a hot issue, but it might not occur nationally.
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bret: what's happening in minnesota? if why is that still -- >> they have done what simes they do in states, they've is stopped counting votes. >> really? all we've been through with that? >> we're at a level where we're chose to a statistical significance, but it's not quite there yet -- >> is tim walz in charge of that. >> yeah. rumor has it. breath we have to let you go because you have more data crunching to do. >> very nice to see you guys, thank you. bret: let's check in with aishah hasnie at the trump campaign headquarters. >> reporter: hey, you guys. well, all signs here are pointing the, perhaps, imminent remarks from the former president shortly. the biggest debt giveaway was a short while ago somebody went onto the stage and put up the glass for the teleprompter. so perhaps somebody will be speaking to the crowd here shortly, and that might be the former president. we've got eyes outside, our
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security detail's outside watching to see if the motorcade arrives from mar-a-lago. i did get a video from someone at the mar-a-lago party a short while ago, and folks there were jubilant and cheering and clapping. they had fox news on the screen, they were watching as we were calling states and more races for the former president. the excitement here is climbing every minute, and people here are anxiously awaiting to see if the former president shows up here tonight and perhaps gives a victory speech. back to you. bret: aishah, thanks. martha: thank you very much. head back there if the former president trump is about to take the stand and speak there. so we're going to keep a close eye on that. 1 a.m. in new york. polls have just closed in alaska. the fox news decision desk says it is too a early to call. trump has a lead in our fox news voter

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