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trump has chosen tom homan add border czar, we have congressman pat fallon and and bondi in a moment. first up, fox news aishah hasnie live in west palm beach, florida. what's cooking down there. reporter: this is the place to be, where all the buzz is, a bunch of people here jockeying for different positions, interviews with transition team and hearing from president-elect once they are offered job right now president-elect focusing on national security and the border, with a big pick today tapping former governor of arkansas, mike huckabee his new u.s. ambassador to iz israel, he said mike will work tirelessly to bring about peace in me middle east,

we're waiting for an official announcement about marco rubio, secretary of state, he is vice chair of intel. he is well liked and respected by republicans and democrats. he might get resounding bipartisan support. now with huckabee, rubio and waltz in place, trump has three staunch israel supporters in place, and pretty big china hawks. trump also bie beefing up his domestic national security, kristi noem will lead the department of homeland security. we're waiting for a defense secretary of, that is important position, treasury secretary, that is big. also though john paulson, huge hedge fund manager, has now removed himself from that race. larry. larry: all right, aishah hasnie thank you for that update we appreciate it.

>> only nutty democrats would be dumb enough to oppose president trump's deportation plan and that is the subject of the riff. just before election, acting chief of joe biden's i.c.e., release a li letter to republican texas condition mancongressman said over 662 house migrants have been caught and released. over 15 thousand of them were murderers, convicted in their home countries. more, 16,000 had been convicted of sexual assault. that is not it. other crimes are 100 thousand assaults, 70 thousand drug violations, 90 thousand inch vagues of privacy, and 16,000 weapons offensives, hat tip to tip insights for those numbers,

bigger hat tip-toe president-elect trump for appointing tom homan as his new border czar, who will make good on mr. trump's promise to deport. there is more, last year i.c.e. reported as of september 30, 2023, there was 1 million 292830 house in u.s. illegally who it full legal due process. received finally did porting a order from immigration judge. and they are still here. past fiscal year of '24. estimate suggest that numbers that grown to 1.6 million, with all of the extraordinary numbers of crime, sex, drug tr trafficking and fentanyl epidemic. and lost kids and routine ganl attacks on police, you still have craze democrats in new york, and california,

and massachusetts. who say they will not cooperate with trump and mr. home a homan, governor newsom said he will trump-proof the state, like wise new york governor kathy hochul, and m massachusetts governor won't let her police take part in trump's deportation plan, if you read new york post, uniformed officers and their unions are thrilled at mr. trump's victory and his deportation plan. i will bet you police agree with the new york blue line. for his part mr. homan said to various new york city officials, if you are not helping us, get the humanitarhell out of our away spot on. by the way federal law on his side. the illegal immigration reform and immigrant responsibility act of 1996 added section 287-g to

original immigration and nationality act. that authorized i i.c.e. to work with state and local law enforcement to identify and remove inc inc incarcerate the criminal n noncitizens and 212-f . president of united states has the authority to suspend the entry of certain noncitizens who the president finds would be detrimental to the interest of the united states. spicmr. homan is likely implement deportation operation is common sense, his priority will be public safety and national security threats and illegals who had due process.

last month on 60 minutes, mr. homan said it's not a mass sweep of neighborhoods, not building concentration camps, he said i read it all, it is ridiculous. fact is, mr. trump has said he welcomes immigrants to u.s., so long as they are legal. president as said, foreigners who graduate from u.s. colleges should get green cards. also side he wants to u.s. to be a magnet for the smartest people in the world. think of a couple of million more elon musks legally entering our borders. and hopefully president trump can build on his legal immigration reform ideas from his first term, ideas that were blocked by democratic congress. but, when you think about the last 4 years, and at least 10 million illegals crossing our borders, perhaps greatest crime and sex trafficking in history, you know full well why

something has to be done. nutty democrats, who keep opposing criminal deportations, or opposing remain in mexico or opposing finishing the wall, they will love by bigger margins in the next election. and that is my riff. for the night. >> joining us now texas congressman pat fallen and pat bondi. and a trump advisory welcome to you both. pam, what did i get wrong? you are a lawyer. former attorney general, 287-g. 212-f, we looked at this months ago, these laws would allow i think the president to implement his deportation plan, what do you think?

>> they would, they will allow him. and with stephen miller and tom homan, get ready they will be deported. and take one of our foreign adversary, china over 50 thousand chinese have come in over last two years, you have to have permission to leave china, 10 to 1, they are males, age 18 to 35, what is that? fighting age. put avoid venezuelan gangs, why would any state want these people in the country, president trump knows we have to get rid of them. let people in two deserve to be here legally. larry: pat, back to the sanctuary cities stuff. the governors, you know they want to trump-proof their states pla blah, blah, blah. my point, doesn't federal law supercede sanctuary city

laws? or in your judgment, are there ways around it tom homan said he will send in double amount of i.c.e., cops' very. the deportations. because of the crimes and violence and gangs and you know big big blue lines always getting hit by the crazy gangs, how does that work with sanctuary cities versus when president trump wants. >> law of the land, as you make clear, federal law president trumps state law -- trump the stace law they will try to trump-proof? the bottom line it would be nice in focal authorities and state authorities would cooperate with federal government as we enforce law, if they don't want to do it federal agencies can under homan we'll see a secure border and a safer nation. larry: well tom homan, okay, pam bondi, they have already

accused liberals or left or whatever, they accuse mr. homan of crazy things but sounds like he will go after criminals first, and after terrorists. you noted national security threats from china and elsewhere. seems that homan will exercise a good deal of common sense, and mr. trump said like wise, this idea of concentration camps, that is just nonsense. have you talked with homan? to the president? tell us what you think their intent will be pam. >> i have not talked with them about this. since the election. but i know president trump wants legal people in this country. it would be like saying, we have a murderer, an armed robber, and we'll harbor them in the state, and you can't get to them. that is not the law of the land. and despite what any

governor says, the federal authorities will have the authority to come in and remove them, and as you said, i can't see any state or local police officer, 3trying to harbor and fugitive, you are a fugitive if you are an illinois inin th -- you are an illegal alien in this country. larry: well said both you are congressman pat fallon thank you and pam bondi appreciate it. >> different subject. joining us now, utah sipper to mike lie, thank you, sir, you are very much in everyone's eyesight, holding this conference tonight, i guess you will fire questions and other republicans senators will fire questions at rick scott. and not number one but rick scott. who else?

john core cornyn and thune, you will start it off, and inch everyone will jump in, you will have a full house. >> i am expecting most of the conference to be there for as much time as they can, we welcome everyone and anyone among senate republicans to be a part of this discussion, we need to hear from each candidate before we vote tomorrow regarding his p preferences 4, for how they would govern conference, i have been saying we need reform in senate. to restore the time honored customs, traditions and practices and rules, that have given i've and ever senator a meaningful student -- opportunity to debate, discuss and amend, not a rubber-stamp body operated by law firm, comprised of

schumer, am mcconnell and jeffries. every member has to have a voice, i want to hear each candidates plan for make tag happen. it has been missing. >> senator lee, a question, maybe not a question. why is if secret ballot? house chooses a speaker it is not, why in senate is it second secret. is it too late to change it to make it open. >> interesting question, i arrived in 2010, i raised that same question and made a motion to try to open that ballot for leadership election, i was not successful. i discovered time honored coast on. that happening, a rule in place, within senate republican conference, question -- we could change it, it would take a majority vote, at this point there does not appear to be support, but does not stop individual members from saying or being asked how

they voted or will vote. larry: it would be interesting, maybe ask the three running you know would you pledge if you won, pledge to have open ballots in future? kind of like would you pledge to have an open amendment procedure. i think too many times, in particular conservatives, too many times under mitch mcconnell, a lot of amendments were never permitted to come to floor or vote os o-- some made good policy sense, not watered-down rino republican ism, of kind. you know. why can't they should make a pledge on that, i pledge to open to the public all voting, how is that mike lee. >> fair enough, if they do go together. i think reason for it in past people work closely together they wanted to

preserve you know relationships within the conference, but on other hand, because we have been such a close loop e entity for so long, i think that american people would like it opened up, we need to have process opened up on amendment process with pl legislation, we have a 4 thousand p page spending bill and few hours to consider it, everyone has to vote yes or no. on a bill written boo by a small handful of people in secret and it is a binary up or down slow the that is wrong. larry: all of candidates seems to me, you should ask this no omnibus spending bills, no more omnibus bills, there is regular legislative order, the omnibus bills hold mischief

and -- hide mischief and spending and taxing and over regulates and deficits and debt. they hide it all, from the public. >> right, when every piece of spending in federal outlays getstize tied to every other piece of spending, attention of american people and lawmaker in washington can't focus on anything, we should get away from those. odd s w -- it would be put on floor of senate for 5 weeks. and have an open amendment process that lasts that long. only way to making any other than unfair. you are right. we should do multiple bills, budget act of 1974, contemplates 10 separate spending bill. larry: so, how many votes to win. someone said 27.

>> yes. larry: there are now with mr. mccormick, i take will be there tonight, of pennsylvania. you have 53 republicans senators, you need 27 to win, correct? >> correct, to win. larry: if you don't get 27 -- balloting is tomorrow. >> correct, in a meeting to begin 9:30 eastern time, if after first ballot no one achieved that number of 27 or greater away our precedence work that lowest vote recipient drops out and we keep voting until someone getting a majority. larry: if you have two left, still 27? >> yes still. 27. in theory someone could capture it on first round. larry: you don't want to tell us who you are picking? >> look, it is important to

me and to members of conference, i believe who are coming in to forum, i am moderating it, i want to be able to fairly present myself as impartial. you may hear something from me, after that debate discussion forum is over, i have a chance to hear the full final arguments of three can p candidates before tomorrow's vote. larry: i don't want to sound like a darn stupid reporter, i just want to know betting that you won't get majority on first vote, someones that to drop out. and -- is that what betting is. >> yes. larry: head count terms, how do people think. i have to be a impartial referee tonight. it will last a while. is that correct? >> yes it will take a while. larry, the point is not just that i don't want to say who

will win, i think it is up in the air. whip counts are all over the place, a lot of people claim that some of same senators, are voting for them. you have another candidate saying they are voting for me, there are a lot of members who are undecided. i think some will start to change after tonight a discussion. and we may know more by late tonight, when it over. larry: president trump has not indicated a favorite? >> president trump has not weighed in. some have asked him to, others want him to stay out, i don't know what his plans are, i'm not speaking for him. we're preceding with this forum p tonight. larry: when you final get a majority vote, what happens, white smoke comes up through the ceiling or chimney? >> yes, i think that is white smoke when we have closchosen a leader

and black smoke when we have not. >> senator mike lee thank you. >> thank you. >> all right, coming up, president trump is moving at warp speed to staff up his new administration, we'll talk about it with hug huuhugh hewitt. you can catch kudlow at 4 p.m. on fox business, if you can't text your favorite 9 year hold, and she will show you how to dvr the show, and you will never miss a senate majority leader fight, what great fun, i'm kudlow, be right back.

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there may be more, what happened to, that i have not heard him or democrats apologizing for saying that stupid thing, trump is out the of gate. susie wiles, elise stefanik, kristi noem. and et cetera. that is a pretty impressive list. >> i do. i think that first chief of staff as a woman in history of united states presidency susie wiles, that is itself the perfect case for rebutting mr. cuban's remarks, i think he red regret, i want people to note, donald trump rolling out with regards zero quota with no need to fill this number of women this number of different minorities or religious minorities he since rifti -- si is interested in c competence and el cents.

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larry: liberal still in denial. let's talk about it with mark simone, steve hilton from the coast, they will trump-proof california, and great tammy bruce of real new yorker and a fox news contributor, thank heavens for tammy bruce, author of fear itself. >> mark, they are still in denial, i'm reading liberals don't know what hit them. what hit them? >> they are in denial, instead of blaming themselves, they plag blaming america, we're racist and message gists, they did in this 88 half party said we don't go far enough to left and elders took them back to center,

right now they are in denial. they are yelling about tom homan how evil, this is what trump campaigned omajority of voters they want that border closed, this guy is the best border closer. he is who you want, they just down understand what happened. larry: steve hilton, you are from trump-proved california. that includes deportations. and perhaps remain in mexico. and build a wall. is california trump-proofing or why doesn't gavin newsom, i knew him years ago, he used to come on as a gi guest, he was mayor of san francisco, he was a moderate -- a moderate pro. married to a district attorney. what happened to him? >> well, he ran for governor, only way as timdemocrat to make

it happen to pander to people who really run democratic party in california government unions, teacher unions and far left activists, funny thing about react in california, it was a national rejection of california ideas. the extremism on climate and gender and race, all this stuff, on crime. that is what people were voting against, you would think in origin of that they vowel wawould wake up and realize but no, they are doubling down, i would say, that we need in california not trump-proofing but n newsom-proof, california. larry: tammy bruce, move on to, trump trials are dead. like a cheap suit, jack smith model ised, merrick garland folded, they had such great cases now they

are unemployment lines and i remember when they had 750 years in jail what mapped to that. >> media moved that. this is also akin to turning on light in kitchen. all of the bugs, scurry back under the fridge, they have party when you can't see. larry: did you think of that before. >> they are covered. they are protected by media and you can't see reality, it is you be, old thing with wizard of oz, you pull curtain back there is a wir weird guy there making a noise, this is perfect storm of clarity, transparency, elon musk buying x, conversations able to be had, newspapers not sensors, americans talking with each other, crowds that force media to cover trump, assassination attempts, everyone bringing forward reality people finds out

they were lied to that trump of the not who they said he was, bringing forth more so people looking at indictments like, why does he have more than al capone something is not right, it got us spell that was broken, a spell we came very close togo cat to going off that cliff but we didn't, thank god there was a lit switch in the kitchen, we're fair people, i am a californian as well, we are people, still a young country, we still are rebels inside our hearts and minds we also are romantic we believe people, and now this election was a giant middle finger to the left and to the few that were trying to gaslight us and drown us in the tub we said "new jersey now -- no and now year in charge. larry: interesting at height

of trial hysteria seriously some people, there were a bunch of lawyers, people on other side defending trump, but everyone wrote about it day after day after day. mr. trump himself had to go to court, sit through it, he did make the best of it, but, the jury was not in new york, it was national vote. the jury of the national vote, i don't think it ever occurred to the dummy democrats that is the way that would work. there would be a national jury, and voted not guilty. >> they didn't realize he is not a convicted felon, none of these things will hold up in court, alan dershowitz said i read this a hundred times i cannot figure out the crime, one of over valuing real estate is is done in every transaction, appeals judge said has anyone in history ever been charged with this he admitd, no. larry: steve hilton, i know

you want to jump in we said it a lot. other thing democrats missed. trump was not just appealing to his white working class base. he was expanding that base to include minorities, blacks, african-americans, hispanics, latinos young people, a lot of women, the gender gap closed, democrats watched this under their very eyes, he just stole thirst 25% of their party, it was remarkable they didn't see it coming they still down. >> they don't get it, we talk about realign am there is a revolution. it is the people who democrats claim to speak for. deserting them in droves, they don't want what they are selling, i remember first time on this network, soon after brexit, and i said that republican party had opportunity to become a

multiracial working class coalition it has been more than delivered by trump, transformed party and politics, it on that basic argument of common sense, we don't want ideology we want practical stuff that improves our lives, we delivered it when president before. larry: tammy, the country rejected woke. pure and simple. >> correct. larry: culture of woke, mandates of woke, including transgenderism, but in general, a big category. they don't want the woke. >> yes, that was like the boil down sauce of nature of the left. of entry'ality of it. -- unreality of it desire to make you not believe our own eyes and ears, americans said we're not doing, that now the republicans and trump i know will follow through, this will have to be bullet train to get this nation back on her feet, americans will not

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larry: why won't congress run the federal reserve? joining us new judy sheldon. and ej antoni, tony antoni, research fellow at heritage foundation thank you. >> you said this on another network, i liked it, we had worst inflation in 40 years. no one was fired at the fed. 91% of them give to democratic campaigns, i'm sure just a coincidence congress oversight is lacking, senators are afraid of their own shadow, why, how can no one are fired in a regulatory body that just the worst performance in 40 years? still, the pce, deflater

2.7%, 12 month change for last 4 months, it to top -- who was fired? >> as it turns out. not the chairman. and i think there is a difference between statement from the fed, and this regularly makes it into the statement from the chairman, that price stability is the responsibility of the federal reserve. but responsibility is not the same at accountability. they didn't pay a price. meanwhile, all of the people who have incurred inflation, last few years, nobody is offering to reimburse them for loss of purchasing power, now we're left with a fed that has not hit the target, but with their policy of deliberately reducing your purchasing

power 2% a year, they are forcing for convenience of the fed forcing you to renegotiate cost of living adjust. everyone has to think and plan their lives terms of inflation adjusted numbers, i welcome this debate we're having now. just now 'sound finishes but sound money. larry: not a question of mr. trump firing j. powell, but a question who was is replacing lost purchasing power of middle and lower income working folks. the well to do have many ways around this, middle income folks do not, lower income folks do not, minorities do not that was is a big issue in this recent campaign. mr. trump tried to speak on their behalf. ej, i think that it is not

so much getting rid of j. powell those legalistic arguments. just like judy said who is responsible and acount able. by the way, you noted, it was congress that created the federal reserve, it was congress that was originally given the power and authority to set value of money but we don't blame congress either. >> when you read original text of constitution it is clear from what founders say congress is forbidden from doing what fed does today. having a currency that is backed by nothing, congress was authorized to create a currency with p precious metal backing and to say how much it would be backed by, they have done is create an entity that does what they themselve are forbidden from doing. in law it is a cat's paw, it is as uncon

unconstitutional for congress to create th another 10t entity to do that. larry: article 1, section 8. they don't stick to it. tony antoni one other thing, corporate tack receipts -- tax receipts running 100 billion above where congressional budget office cbosaid they would run 7 years ago, 100 billion, why should we believe the cbo against or joint tax committee. >> we shouldn't for same reason we have not believe the economist who say trump turn will r cause run away inflation, they said biden presidency would cause no inflation, they have been whwrong before and they are wrong again. larry: they are stopping

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