ashley for a while, 1979. >> i'm going to go with 1974 and break rank. stuart: remember the 8 track? that was 1960s stuff. lauren: i don't remember it. stuart: i will say 1974 was the invention of the cd. lauren got it right and she doesn't know what they are, 1979, the first prototype in europe and japan, the first cds could store 80 minutes of music and became widely available in 1982. send your friday feedback. email us, varneyviewers@fox.com. time is up. thanks for being with us. coast to coast starts now. neil: i was around for the invention of the wheel of. that led to the cd. great show.

in the meantime we are focusing on donald trump moving at a rapid face, a little controversial, his latest pics but racing through them and indications are who will he pick for the big economic jobs on commerce and treasury, talk about hud, what happens there, agriculture, in the next day or two. the way he is going he can have the cabinets elected and then it has to get approved. let's get the latest from mark meredith in west palm beach toiling in that horrific environment. >> reporter: let me put down my my tie. donald trump making waves with the latest announcement. no news on his economic team. headlines on capitol hill worldwide, quite a controversial choice. yesterday trump announced he wants matt gaetz from the

western part of florida since 2016 to be the head of the department of justice, a staunch supporter of trump's and recently under investigation by the house ethics committee over allegations he was part of a scheme tied with sex trafficking of a minor. gaetz has long denied the allegations. the justice department dropped its probe last year. kevin mccarthy, who is no fan of matt gaetz says he doesn't think gaetz would be confirmed but mike johnson says he would be a fine addition to the justice department. >> everyone will start with him tells you he's one of the most intelligent members of congress. an accomplished attorney, concern about the lawfair in the department of justice under the biden administration. >> the senate will consider whether to form -- confirmed tulsi gabbert as director of national intelligence. nikki haley says she has no interest in trump's cabinet, she made the comments on her radio show and it comes a few

days after trump posted online that she would not have a role in his term but haley is claiming a trump aide came to her and asked if she would want a job at all and a lot of back and forth. the upcoming press sector and the administration, we are waiting to find out who he is going to be, trump did not drop any hints in dc about who else may be serving in that term but a lot of people looking at who is trying to get an idea of who else could be chosen. lauren: 1 kevin mccarthy took himself out of the running i wonder if it is that black-and-white, might have been because donald trump was considering matt gaetz to serve some role. i don't think people would have expected this one. >> the news came so suddenly, politico had it on the plane yesterday.

mccarthy thing would line up on the timeline, what role would happen overseas in south florida. lauren: 1 a gruesome assignment but he is handling it, and what donald trump is trying to do tackling government waste and overspending, two rich guys overseeing it but how to go about it is easier said than done. >> we are drinking hot tidies on a chilly day in dc. the department of government efficiency is hiring, they are soliciting resumes by direct message on that platform. people who are superhigh iq, small government revolutionaries.

as heads of this new department, elon musk and vivek ramaswamy prosing changes in cuts to the federal government, he posted the new presidential commission goes after diversity, equity and inclusion roles, he says biden's hhs has gone wild on dei, efficient government has no place for dei gloat and elon musk suggested nongovernment organizations who receive money from the federal government may no longer be eligible. an interview with hannity last night, vivek ramaswamy said an easy way to cut excess spending would be, many are remote into the office. >> a from you want a job or show up to work five days a week. they will quit out the gate. that's a question we should ask. those are the inefficiencies,

low hanging fruit, democrats and republicans can agree on. >> if you wonder how donald trump would improve and changes musk and vivek ramaswamy suggest when congress controls the purse strings, trump as far back as june propose challenging the constitutionality of a 1974 law that gave congress more control over budgets but which trump argued handcuffed the president from wasteful spending. look for them to target that but also as we learned this morning, republicans control the house and senate so that makes it a bit easier for donald trump to push through the agenda including government spending and a host of other matters. neil: grady trimble, kind of chilly in new york.

always good to see you. how is it going so far, what have you seen, what have you liked? >> matt gaetz is the most controversial. i worry about the political capital he would have to spend to get him across the finish line 'elderly the judiciary. everyone else had no problem, first thing i like is youthfulness and the generational shift, they are all america first. donald trump is a disruptor so i am going to work to get as many confirmed as many as they can. neil: colleagues saying matt gaetz is young but nuts but no prospect of getting approved.

>> the prospects, where you have to calculate whether the political capital you would have to spend in the judiciary committee, to get them out of the committee is worth the price. matt has some sins of the past. i think he was more than slightly disruptive when he was in the house with kevin mccarthy, it was destructive to be honest. neil: a few take this up in a recess appointment and someone like matt gaetz could get approved and donald trump's cabinet could be in place. >> previous presidents have used it. barack obama used it but it's not very strong cabinet secretary who will always have that call to not be vetted, the

advice and consent of the senate which the constitution of the united states recommends. there is a compromise in all of it and if there is too much obstruction, get the house and senate to agree to a recess. it would be serious negotiation, he has to determine how much capital to spend on. maybe matt gaetz will talk to us which everyone has to do eventually. lauren: 1 was behind donald trump's strategy, the washington post called him from deliberately provocative. what do you think? >> that is possible. i don't think donald trump is making these appointments with the hope of making a point. he believes peace through

strength is more than a weapons system but an attitude. deterring illegal immigration is more than laws and executive orders. stop there, don't bother. i think there are serious pics. i take them seriously. pete hegseth, having a lawyer as secretary of defense is a signal to every soldier, airman, marine has their backs too, surround yourself with some good managers but the basis he is putting forward, the personalities are right on point. stuart: he's much more disciplined and focused, there does seem to be a strategy here to make sure he has loyalists who will pursue his agenda. what do you think? >> we all learned a lesson the

first two years of the trump administration where i don't want to say we took our time but there wasn't the sense of urgency he has now. he only has four years, that makes a difference, has the experience to realize not all my people are my people and in the long run what vivek ramaswamy was saying earlier, there's a lot of work to be done, i would start with supreme court decisions that have already stripped away or announced you don't have these authorities, cut those people, clean power plants and all those things and i guarantee you if you told every bureaucrat to get back to work, you would have a mass exodus because there's plenty of work for people who want to work from home. i'm anxious to see that play out.

we can confirm people on the executive calendar while dealing with the other big economic issues like extending tax cuts and jobs act. neil: let's meet again soon. the alternative asset management strategist, the impact of all of this but moving fast, controversial pics notwithstanding. how is it going? >> until the matt gaetz pick people on wall street who i will speak for, tulsi gabbard has controversy, pete hegseth was a nontraditional pick but no one thought there would be too much difficulty, matt gaetz may be a bridge too far. political exits on your show --

neil: the wall street journal has been happy in the last week. do we still see that continuing? >> in the case of the matt gaetz pick, he might end up senator from florida but off the top of my head, you've got collins and murkowski. mitch mcconnell is not voting for him. one or 2 other people, not that richard blumenthal is the authority, 5 or 10. neil: be a tough sell but try to get around that, see what happens but bottom line even if there's a failed appointee it is not -- >> there is not always when that gets bork to but there's usually one it doesn't make the cut. neil: let me get your sense of what donald trump is doing separately working with elon

musk to weed out government waste, i am old enough to remember -- >> we are the same age. neil: looking at the latest example of government waste and abuse and it made headlines every month, every quarter. but it continued and government spending continued. what do you make of this strategy for these guys to show it to the world and get americans upset and see it stop. >> there is not a man or woman on wall street is not in favor of bringing private sector responsibility, efficiency to the public sector. the problem, two main problems for doge, it's not a tight agency, it's a think tank that will make recommendations, ultimately any meaningful change has to be done on the legislative side which is the same heavylift that has been

the case for years. charles: 20 we had the grace commission to separately look at social security giving a longer shelf life and it did work so can this work? >> it has to overcome two major hurdles. you need legislative buy-in and the second issue is i want viewers to remember the us government is a health insurance, with an army. and everything else the department of justice, department of education is more or less a rounding area. not just nonchurch health insurance, he with army spending is in the context of the budget. >> focusing on paying attention to it on top of the tax cuts that could be extended, regulation could be on the way. is that going to keep the markets going in the next year? >> we are focused on the

economy, which will take -- the department of government efficiency. neil: the push. >> obviously less regulation though there is some debate how much less regulation we will get. take the tax cut issue or the tax hike issue off the table, a more friendly business environment, get saudi to release barrels to lower oil prices and depressed inflation, the tariffs is a hotly debated issue. and the initial reaction is that will be inflationary but take the steam out of the the bill levitating effects of the tariff, that increases our positive. neil: dan greenhouse.

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neil: a lot of questions about the poly market ceo betting on presidential elections getting his home rated here. he claims it was all political. lydia: we are hearing from elon musk. the fbi raided his apartment in manhattan just yesterday, took away our cell phone and other types of electronic devices after his betting platform correctly predicted the outcome of the election putting the odds and trump's favor at 58%. a spokesperson is calling this

raid, quote, obvious political retribution and added this, it is discouraging the current administration will seek a last-ditch effort to go after companies associated with political opponents. and recognize taking a more pro-business process are up approach would have changed that. elon musk said this. the doj declined to comment and the fbi did not immediately get back to us but they are investigating poly market suggesting trades from users based in the united states. election betting was legalized it in the us but poly market is not approved with the commodity trading commission. it is not supposed to be available in the us. to reach a settlement, poly market gained a lot of

attention in this market and stirred some concerns about conflating opinion polls with betting markets, they predicted donald trump's victory and he swept the electoral college and popular vote. neil: french investor, 87 million. stuart: thank you very much. crypto plays since donald trump was elected a week ago. a little less hot today, bitcoin touched on $92,000 a coin. what do you make of what is going on and how durable this is?

>> the first probe bitcoin president in the united states that we've ever had, the last administration, talking about poly market, they terrorized founders for building companies in the united states. places like dubai, singapore, the excitement and prices are less driven by number go up but the optimism investors feel that new companies can be created and built in the united states. neil: if you talk to someone a couple weeks ago about bitcoin getting to one hundred thousand, that's a long climb, at these levels it is not. what do you think of that prediction and others saying hold on. this is a one million-dollar investment.

sometime next year, what do you see happening? >> we passed the 80s with a fixed supply, block works for seven years, chevron, bank of america, salesforce, the market cap of silver this week, the eighth largest market, google, amazon, microsoft, apple, nvidia, 17 trillion, the market is 7 trillion today, that in line with where it is going. neil: people look at other factors, you mentioned at the outset, into the white house with donald trump and this push for the strategic petroleum

reserve who want the glorified crypto reserve and to have a reserve you have to buy stuff to put into the reserve. what do you make of that? >> the bitcoin strategic reserve, using existing funds at the federal reserve to purchase $1 million in bitcoin. the important thing is we already own 200,000 bitcoin. they are sitting on 200,000 bitcoin. if we purchase 1 million new bitcoin it would make us the largest nationstate holder of bitcoin with 5% ownership of the bitcoin network. seems crazy to listeners but that's on par with our current steak in the gold network. the mental model people should be thinking about, bitcoin is a commodity, the most sought after commodity is gold. bitcoin is the second most sought after commodity, $1.7 trillion asset class and

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>> a lot of work to be done to reign in this bureaucracy, supreme court decisions have stripped away you don't have these authorities, cut those people, clean power plants and all those things. neil: senator kevin kramer enthusiastic about elon musk and vivek ramaswamy, the department of government efficiency that will weed out and publicize where government waste is most rampant. we seen this attempt at getting

waste, fraud, and abuse the attention it deserves but nothing comes of it, the senator is optimistic. i wonder if democratic congressman from massachusetts is, in his own district, no one can take him on, he ran unopposed. what do you think of what donald trump is trying with elon musk and vivek ramaswamy, have americans look at how money is spent, don't know what the next step is but look at it. >> everybody wants to reduce waste, fraud, and abuse but elon musk was putting forward numbers like $2 million in annual reductions and spending. that means cuts to social security and medicare. if that's his intent democrats will fight to protect social security and medicare and other earned benefits on behalf of the american people.

i wish he would direct elon musk to talk about how to build things in this country again. there's an untapped desire from all walks of life to be building things that matter to gather, and economy of builders and doers, to have an economy that works like legos, not monopoly where we can build more ships than the chinese navy, 10 million units of housing, a thousand nuclear power plants and can collectively build an economy that out competes china in the 20 first century. neil: there's been a lot of soul-searching among democrats since the election. i caught up with the teamsters president, they opted not to support either candidate but sean o'brien said democrats have to look in the mirror and quit heeding the advice of people like nancy pelosi and chuck schumer who should step aside. what did you make of that sense that the party here has driven you into a ditch.

>> nancy pelosi's record of legislative accomplishments speaks for itself, the affordable care act, things that are popular with the american people, we lost the election in all three corners of government and have to make improvements in our campaign game but ultimately we are not going to find those improvements by trying to build a themaga light party that is economically populist, we have to have our own audacious agenda and don't need to retreat from the values we hold dear. we want to expand the envelope of freedom to all americans that was first promised by the founders and we won't back away from that promise. neil: do you think the party has to moderate? i'm showing my age but i remember your party lost with michael dukakis in 1988, your third pertinent -- presidential rubbing and a lot of people were saying the party was finished, then four years later

along comes bill clinton, moderate the message. goes after iconic figure in the party and everything changed. do you think the party has to do something like that with someone like that? >> let's not hyperventilate. every governing party lost vote share post covid including center-right parties and centerleft. that was because of the two years of inflation that came because of covid supply-chain shocks. despite that, house democrats performed in the upper end of the spectrum of all governing parties worldwide and we retain 90% of the seats we were fighting for against republican challengers on our front lines. neil: you did lose the senate, you did lose the white house to a guy being called fascist. i'm not taking sides, just wondering is it incumbent on the parties that used to be, might still be that you got to get back to that, donald trump

got a lot of those votes. >> here is the central point that digs deeper than economic or cultural issues, the average american does not have trust the democratic party is working for them directly, they feel like democrats are catering to different constituencies but not to them. we have to correct that and one way to correct that is going everywhere and talking to everyone not with condescension but curiosity. this is an organized media landscape and we have to be on these podcasts and twitch chats, talking to young voters who are apolitical and not hyperpartisan and consuming audio and video content online. let's have these long conversations. i don't believe americans don't want to talk about policy. i think that's patronizing but americans are hungry for deeper conversations. neil: you have come on fox, many of our colleagues would ask for what you were doing on fox, thank you very much.

you have seen the market on a tear but this chair began some time ago, it was far ahead of this talking about the roaring 20s, some snickered at that. many decades, snickering, he joins us now. talking about the s&p crossed 6,000, the next stop is 10,000, that would be 67% jump from where we are now. how does that happen so i can time my trades to the day? >> there will be stats along the way. can't promise their won't be a correction by the end of the decade. we won't gotta bear market because we don't have a recession. we had an opportunity the past three years to have recession when the fed was tightening monetary policy but it was widely anticipated recession of all times, we weren't expecting

it but everybody else expected it. of tight monetary policy can't cause a recession it is not clear what will cause the next recession, 10,000 is what we were seeing, reasonable in terms of what earnings growth do, valuation and a lot of people are spooked by the high valuation level but that's related to the perception the economy can grow, high valuations will be not that challenging for earnings to bring down. neil: those multiples are not as eye-popping good but this push to 10,000 for the s&p, is it a 1-year event next year sometime? >> i am thinking it will be evenly spread over the rest of the decade. 7,000 for the s&p by next year,

8000, nice easy to remember numbers. neil: the reason i ask you on that you do see interest rates backing up on the 10 year. 's with strength comes more inflationary pressure, more competition for stocks, heard this a zillion times. your thoughts? >> one reason we didn't have a recession, the fund rate went from 0 to 5.4%, it was 0 that was the abnormality. bond yields have normal lies, bond yields should be between 4% to 5%, that's the sign of a healthy economy, a sign the neutral fed funds rate is higher than fed officials think. if that's the case the fed stop lowering rates because the economy has no problems dealing with these rates around 4% and inflation almost down 2%.

we are back to normal. neil: i don't want to misquote you. is not just about technology. you have seen since the widening out here but before technology how do you see it in 2025? >> we had the roaring 20s theme and we are halfway through the decade and things are looking get pretty good and with the pro-business administration, tax cuts, deregulation, we think it continues to go on but before the election we thought no matter who won that productivity would continue to make a comeback. we are looking at productivity growth movement, one of the best ones ever. i look at this in centuries, i don't recall but i recall reading about the agricultural

revolution in the 1700s and we had the industrial revolution and now we are seeing the digital revolution. technology is driving productivity and productivity is magic, it makes economic growth that are coming inflation lower, real wages go up and profit margins, technology is the heart of it and every company in your portfolio should be a technology company. that sounds ridiculous but what i mean is they make technology or use technology in separate activity. neil: you speak clearly and ahead of the corral. good seeing you. thank you very much. we have a lot more coming up. governor hochul in new york made some news talking about inflationary pressures, she wants to bring pricing back to deal with the traffic jams like the ones you are not seeing on avenue of the americas after this.

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your name is associated with that. seems a perfect fit for you to run hud. >> i'm happy to help the president, he has great people around him. we will help him anyway we can. neil: pulte talking about taking overhead, development crucial for the housing industry, pretty novel ideas to get going in the face of higher interest rates. warehousing stands now, hi, jerry. >> reporter: freddie mac with their mortgage rate number. 7%, no relief in sight, as mortgage rates defies the fed. our realtor in westchester county, what are you telling buyers? >> mary the house, date the

rate, to afford that monthly payment get into the house now, refile later. >> reporter: a comment from an expert in housing who talks a lot about this issue. listen. >> we expect the slowdown as mortgage rates creep up from the lower point they hit toward the end of september. for sellers people won't be here to make a move and for buyers more time on the sidelines especially with rents falling across the country. >> reporter: what do you make of those comments especially about rents falling and people renting instead of buying? >> if you're in a position to purchase versus renting why would you give a landlord money when you could get into a home, gain equity and generational wealth? >> reporter: as i send it back to you, i want to say one thing creating a problem with the rates is the fact that we have

so much federal debt, bond adverse terrors, i know you're not either. back to you. . 20 the rates go up the more debt you have to finance them. great job as always, gerri willis. the price of mortgages and homes continue to go up. the fact of the matter is some fearing what's happening with the 10 year and other things will get more expensive not only to get a home. inflation hasn't gone away. in new york dealing with the problem of congestion, pricing people based on when they come into the city, the governor bringing of that back. the director of the research for empire center, can you update me on this, what's the big deal? why is it a big deal? other cities might ponder the

same thing. >> new york city in an interesting spot, that takes people away from their work and families longer. he roads the air quality, the problem is concerned about congestion pricing is focused on the revenue side. the legislature was bent on collecting one billion dollars a year from drivers without much thought to how it got collected. we all originally saw this cookie-cutter approach where every one whether they were coming at 6 a.m. or 9 p.m. or 9:00 pm was going to pay the same $15 rate to enter the lower business district. that rate is $9 which raises the question where the state is going to get the remainder, to spend $70 billion over the next

five years but congestion pricing is just a band-aid on a bullet wound where you have the most inefficient major transit agency in the world. and why you and the new york times did a good job documenting the fact that the subway system spent $2.5 billion a mile, we at the empire center see through new york, collecting more overtime than base pay so you have this agency and legislature which steered four special taxes and fees to balance of the books. turning to essentially a toll on drivers to essentially keep scotch tapeing the finances together. neil: government everywhere is good at taxing you, not so much

finding a productive way to spend the money, that's my big worry. whatever the final figure is, more better trained service of the that never happens. that's my big worry. >> the danger is we are going to see a lot of this money borrowed to. you will see more cost shift in the future and more upward pressure on existing taxes on corporate income, payroll, gasoline, other things folks would be surprised to learn. neil: the dow down 127. don't blame disney, stock is up 7%. more after this. ♪

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neil: as we wrap things up let's look at disney, one of the standouts taking it on the chin comeau disney surprised a lot of folks with better-than-expected numbers particularly for their streaming services. a lot of streaming services did very well, didn't get a full breakdown, better than thought, better than thought consumer. jackie deangelis and the gang get take it now. taylor: i'm jackie deangelis. taylor: i am taylor riggs. brian: i am brian brenberg, welcome to "the big money