great changeover in financials. we have seen the largest changeover in federal financial regulatory history come january 20th. we've seen a lot of banks react to that. a big driver of that will be mna changes. hosted a call today on an triple-demic trust policy and -- on antitrust policy and gets approve in trump 2.0 and under the biden administration and seeing concerned is where the treasury secretary comments play, how far will trump go on the policy? how far will he go in pushing powell to be a little less doveish on his monetary policy. those ar areas of volatility are important for the markets. liz: ed mills, thank you so much. a mixed day on the markets ask another big day right here for you. larry: hello, folks.

welcome to kudlow. i'm larry kudlow. president trump's victory celebration continues joyous fashion. the country is rooting for him. much more on that in just a moment. we've got harris faulkner, rich lowry and miranda devine here onset. but first up, trump victory dance shows no sign of letting up, and that's the subject of the riff. one of the most remarkable parts of donald trump's landslide victory is 11 days later, his victory lap continues in what must be a historic celebration. mr. trump himself continues what is now known as the trump dance. here he is, boogieing at the mar-a-lago ampi gala last thursday night and i was down there boogie withs him. check it out. larry: we've seen this trump dance before and did it at madison square garden for ufc

championship fight and pure bedlam getting a continuous standing ovation as he and his entourage came into the arena. take a listen to this. [ cheering and yelling ] larry: then see him embracing joe rogan that's roughly 35 million listeners and viewers contributed to the lead in mr. trump's victory and they'll get together in a second and here it comes, wait for it. he's walking in. now he's going to say hello today that -- not quite. i think we'll get the joe rogan picture in just a moment. hang on. hang on. not quite. we're a little fast. hang on. it'll play while i'm talking. anyway, please notice by the way, boxing champ john jones also during the trump dance.

giving the president elect his championship. there's rogan. there he is right there. mr. trump embracing joe rogan. 35 million viewers and listeners didn't hurt at all. by the way, in addition to all the boogieing going on in madison square garden boxing championship, nfl players doing the trump dance in the end zone. there it is. look at that. lock at that. and there were a bunch of them. we can't show them all. it was a great little dance. we'll all do it onset. the crown triple-demic is in a joyous mood. voters want trump to succeed. they year for a new golden age. mr. trump is not the first president elect to have a victory celebration. i think he's the first to go 11 days and still counting. i think he's the first to have football players do a presidential dance in his honor in the end zone. let's focus for just one minute on the ufc boxing championship

at msg. i heard miranda devine was there. more of that in a moment. this was a hero's welcome by in large from young people. and now in today's wall street journal, patrick talks about the young leaving the democratic party and going to mr. trump's new republican party. in 2008, here's some numbers, president obama won the 18-29-year-old's vote by 34 points. those same voters that are roughly 30-34 years old went to kamala harris by only 3 points. among today's 18-29-year-olds, that's todays, ms. harris only had a 4 point edge. the numbers change but the tram 7 working class land -- trump working class landslide included blacks, hispanics, asians, and the young moving from democrat to republican trump. they all want economic growth

and a closed border and an america they can be proud of. rafini calls the new trump coalition aspirational. i completely agree. during the 11 day trump victory lap, he's managed to appoint, get this, 28 cabinet and other senior positions to staffing his administration. and as our friend newt gingrich rights, newt will be here later in the show, this is the most reform oriented cabinet in history. so, promises made, promises kept. success is the best way to end the divisions and unify the country. a new golden age. you don't get a nationally joyous victory celebration like mr. trump's unless the country is truly rooting for you. that is the riff. boogieing coming up and harris faulkner cohost of outnumbered

and faulkner focus on fox news and rich lowry and editor in chief and miranda devine and post columnist and fox news contributor. harris, i like the way you were boogieing there and i'm going to lead off with you. come on, put it together for me. >> now we're going to be a meme. larry: in all seriousness, this might not last and we've seen presidential honeymoons before. i get all that. i don't think i've seen one this long, however, this intense, and didn't see nfl players dancing your dance in the end zone, but it is interesting to me that i sense the country wants him to succeed. >> look, i don't think democrats were wrong when they first tried to run kamala harris and she had a decidedly very long honeymoon period too. it just didn't hang on when they first put her in over joe biden, but they weren't wrong the country could use a little joy

and uplift. many people struggling to get the groceries on the table and still being told they're imagining their journey. they weren't wrong about that . they just couldn't sustain it because the facts were against them. so right now, i think that there is a sort of collective okay, we've decide who had the president is and we don't have to wait in limbo unless you're in state withs house and house races they've not called. that's another story for another hour. now the joy can begin of what's next. when will the change come and you see him like with speed trying to get cabinet picks in place and he's moving forward to get that done and being true to who he s. it's the authenticity along the way. of course he's going to ufc championships at msg. of course he'll take that victory lap and there'll be people there that might not have ever said they wanted to vote for him that did and many of those people look like me.

many are hispanics, asian as you mentioned. larry: he doesn't use his lower body. >> that takes your feet and end in the ice cream cone. i don't believe that's been told how it is. just this last point, with putting the cabinet together and hearing the push against him potentially on the hill with lawmlawmakers and then hearing e blue led state democrat governors going to defie the people's choice and push against everything he does in their interest, it's rich, and if they think they're going to win back voters that way, they're wrong. the joy will reside on the right side of the aisle till the left decides to smile and move on. larry: miranda, it's an interesting point. the last thing that harris because i watched phil murphy, governor of new jersey and i know that he lost his mind on that earlier and catherine

hochul and going for governor of new york and not feeling so surprised and that's a whole different thing. larry: going to do well for them and their states are doing even better than they did in the last election turning blue into red. it was good for them and going for the country. >> it's dumb because how well did that tactic work for trump derangement syndrome and nancy pelosi was running it and coast-to-coast and nancy pelosi's hometown of san francisco swung to trump by seven points. you know, they've lost the house, they've lost the senate, they've lost the electoral college and popular vote. trump derangement, everybody saw through it.

he's going to try and change sides. it doesn't work and it's been a disaster and i don't know what these governors are doing thinking they can mount a resistance. give the guy a changes because calling him hitler and trying to demonize him and employ lawfare and impeaching him and trying to assassinate him, it made him stronger. larry: rich lowry, i just saw fnc digital posting a story, trump's 76 million plus, 76.4 million. that's the most votes any republican president has ever received. he's still ahead in the popular vote by a couple million and the electoral college by a lot more than that. how do you read this? again, i'll say, we've seen honeymoons before. now it may be his own

personality and ebbulant and easy to follow and i don't see anything quite like this i can remember and going way, way back to reagan and yes, you get a couple days and things settle down and get into the transition. he's done everything at once with a loud bang in getting a massive following. >> first, let me thank you for not asking many to personally boogie on air. going to ufc championship and he's going to get huge applause. rudy giuliani maybe after september 11 blue no, it's not going to happen. it's new audiences this guy tapped into and a huge part of what happen second-degree there's a lot of vo voters in tt garden and at msg. i'm kind of a moderate and don't care about politics that much but the left went so far and financial times had a great piece. the democrats went so far left, the center moved left so you're a moderate but now you're right

of center. i'm now considering in guy because he's normal compared to other people and made gains as a moderate and made gains and a lot of blue areas and people are disaffected with the disastrous misgovernment in the cities. larry: the front page, front of "the wall street journal" website going to run the story how the biggest mistake the democrats made was ignoring inflation problem. both, you know, before, during and after. i was going to ask you, cultural issues and i think played a quieter but absolute key role in this election. by-logical men in -- biological men in women sport didn't like the dei. i and cancel culture and going to madison going for 30 to 35 or 40 and i don't think they

like any of that stuff one bit. i like this one bit and going to hold this part up. playing against each other and telling black men you don't support black men because you're misogynies ick and you're not voting for kamala and don't know what you're doing and not thinking straight and not loving them. so on and so forth and came from barack obama. they weren't being man plained by something they didn't know and he's telling them how to be black practically. larry: is that right? she really needed the money. >> i don't know. i'm not really into her

finances, but did lizzo need millions? i'm not sure. but women got paid and performers got paid to be on stage and not sing. just to support publicly kamala harris. my point with that is she had a real disconnect with hispanics and blacks in this country. and asians and other cultures saw that and said our bottom line isn't doing well either. i interviewed all voters from age group and ilk and backgrounds and they said the president has to be american dream driven and this one isn't by kamala harris and keeps laughing and smiling and got serious towards the end and started calling people fascist and her vice presidential partner, tim walz, everybody at msg for trump is a gnat seizure natzi and allthis stuff and theg and black people got quiet.

where was james clyburn till a couple days when he was upset. what's going on? >> the submerged iceberg is submission to the woke stuff and people at hospital or medical office with the whisper conversations and this stuff is crazy, you're not a birthing parent, you're a mother. that training was insane but i don't inspect people to know it was insane. this is a way to make dissent from the audible and go in the voting booth in secret and make views known by voting for big middle finger to all that stuff. larry: i think trump knew this and his closing ads had quite a bit of culture in them. >> that brilliant line saying she's for they them and trump's for you. larry: paying for various transgender operations. choices, people are going to make choices, personal choices is up to them but taxpayers paying for it or taxpayers in prison paying for it or the military and we'll talk about

military later in the show. i just think it was just like silent majority and coming up again and again and a lot of people miss it had and a lot of pollsters missed it as well. miranda, maybe less euphoric but very important one story is pete heghegseth and pentagon and the other is matt gaetz. you wrote on the pete hegseth story. what are they going to do? there's witnesses that are not good witnesses, not credible witnesses. what are they worried about with pete hegseth? >> i don't think trump is worried and is going ahead with him. this is just the usual smear that every single member of this administration is going to suffer and we've seen trump and

his people are teflon. they've thrown every smear at trump and called him a rapist and natzi. you name it. he won a landslide so it done a lot work and people see it for what it was. pete hegseth is a danger to the blob, to the sort of military industrial complex because he's a real sol jeer and totally against the woke dei and endless wars and military spending. that gets us the same thing, they're both kind of middle fingers by trump to the deep state. it's telling them it's not going to be business as usual anymore. i'm not mr. nice guy like first time around. >> doesn't mean generals will be good at politics or have political courage or have

original good views. so now he's like forget the generals, i'm going to a war fighter and pete's views on this and the role of the military is going to break things and kill people, and you're not going to poison it with this idiotic dei ideology is extremely important. larry: i think dei is like a form of affirmative action on steroids. i think the original affirmative action became very unpopular, lawsuits at harvard and university of north carolina and places like that. anti-semitism is very unpopular. >> anti-semitism is wrong. larry: of course it's deadly wrong. >> not just unpopular. larry: morally wrong and unpopular. but i'm saying that democrats wound up lining up behind these

things and never lifted a finger on anti-semitism and defended woke till the very end. there's no common sense here or ordinary working folks and ordinary middle class folks, how can they be so stupid? >> the goal is to control. hi a guest on the faulkner focus and said dei means didn't earn it. all looking at things very much decades post-civil rights and other movements in the country but particular that one that had to do with affirmative action and other movements to try to right side salaries and opportunity and all that. but when you get into the land of merit and where everybody has got to be looked upon for what they bring to the table, people really just want a leg up. there's a lot of ways to help people without putting them in a category that doesn't have an acroanymore. there's ways to give -- acronym

and there was ways to help people without day care and that was one of the things at all women town hall with president trump. stop putting us in a categories and the problem is diversity isn't just skin color and hair texture. i was raised military. i'm one lane. we can't have everybody coming from the same sort of ilk. that's diversity. one quick thing with regard to the nominees that the president is putting forth. you mentioned pete hegseth. i would say this nation watched a white house put up with the behavior of the current sec def disappearing for days for a surgery he did not disclose and the white house didn't even know he was gone. i think the bottom is some place i can't see. maybe it's invisible. crisis of merit and concern.

pete hegseth is a two times bronze medal winner in the military. they're going to i did pose and vet everyone. trump had too much recent experience with federal bureau of investigation and might not want to. when you come to the nominees, you talked about middle finger. that's a middle finger to the public that just voted for trump. larry: mr. trump's new coalition members embrace politics with aspiration and not a left that shifts towards dependency on government and then here it is growing umm they were told by parents to support the democratic party because it was the party of the poor. their response, we don't have to

be poor. race, always there, religion, always there, ethnicity. always there. how about the economy? growth. trump is playing to the fact that they remember middle and lower income working folks remember the take home pay was good. >> you can be oppressed minority too. you can be a victim group. they're like, no, we want to be americans and succeed like everyone else. a lot of polling showed hispanic voters cared more about the economy than white voters. they don't like the ethnic pandering. larry: their response, we don't have to be poor. i love that. >> kamala proved that. only group she gained in over biden is again trump was people earning more than $100,000 a

year. i think trump hit on something when he started saying i'm cutting taxes on social security. he's going on both ends of the spectrum. >> no taxes on tips. larry: overtime. >> these are wage workers that is not keeping up with inflation that's going back up. larry: overtime. no taxes. >> friday, didn't the inflation rate tick back up again? larry: yeah. that's right. >> biden is going out on bad news. larry: we'll see if the joy continues. >> well, it is here. >> i think you just want me to dance. you like to dance. but we need music. larry: thank you, miranda devine, rich lowry and harris faulkner. catch the faulkner focus at

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larry: democrats may not be able to steal the senate seat from david mckormick and michael wattly for the national committee looks like you won one for the obvious question is will this finally end all this nonsense. >> this clears the way to have a recount that they need to have and this is within half a point. that's okay. we want the recount to take place and frankly bob casey could have canceled the recount and could have said he didn't want it.

the basic principle and every one of the counties needs to follow pennsylvania law. larry: what's out there? i mean, i don't know how many votes with 20,000 votes left to be counted? >> that's about right. they're going to recount that vote and never seen any recount overturning anything like this before. average recounts generally tend to flip about 300, 400, 500 votes and not seeing this overturn and bob casey saving the taxpayers money from going through the process and he won't. we'll go through it and have the, dave mckormick declared winner of the race. larry: i know robert casey jr. well and know his dad very well. he wasn't a very good senator and also needs to step up to the plate and give a nice concession. a good catholic boy can be a men much. i'm mixing med fores but makes

sense to me, michael. >> the key is we saw the voters of pennsylvania stand up on november 5. they elected dave mckormick and voted for donald trump in significant numbers and that clears the way for us to have a republican majority and pennsylvania was a critical, critical state for donald trump and sent a resounding signal to the rest of the country that what we've seen over the last four years is unacceptable to the american public and voters, and donald trump as a clear common sense mandate going forward and we're very excited to have dave mckormick entering into the senate to be a rock solid voice there. larry: yes, amen. republican national committee chair michael whatley. thank you, sir, coming up next, vivek ramaswamy says doge will delete entire federal agencies and lots of bureaucrats. we'll talk about it with art

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larry: the hottest economic story right now is something called doge, elon musk and vivek ramaswamy. i want to get reaction and we have art laffer, former reagan economist, steve moore, host of more money on wnbc radio. steve moore, look at what he said. vivek aramaswamy on maria yesterday going to slash the budget and going after the bureaucracy and the regulatory and maybe even abolish some of the regulatory agencies and that's all noble goals i would think. >> it's music to my ears and go back to reagan era and you and art played a big role in the reagan administration and people

have forgotten about that and found hundreds of billions of dollars in the waste and budget back then. by the way, that was privately financed and all the money to do that was from private donations. my point is if they can find hundreds of billions back in the 80s and think how much you've got in terms of waste and duplication and fraud and simply inefficiency in these federal agencies. you know, it was -- speak of reagan he said the closest thing to immortality is the federally regulated programs. we have war of 1812 and still spend money on the programs and we don't even know what they do. larry: yeah, i mean, i tried with -- when i was working for mr. jefferson, i tried to cut some of the agencies down and couldn't g quite get it done 250 years ago. art laffer, how important is

this? how important is this because, because, because. tax cuts extending trump 1.0, adding perhaps trump 2.0 and many in the congress want supply side tax cuts with their growth kicker and hopefully they'll be scored dynamically and do them together or one then the other. it'll be mindful ticker to get the musk and vivek thing done. they want it done in july. probably not getting in in july. what comes first, arthur? that's what i'm saying? >> tax cuts need to come first, clearly right away. re-up the tax cuts and jocks act. but what you want to do with this government thing and we both held a job with chief economist at omb at one stage in our life, none of this stuff will work, larry, unless they put the correct insenteddive into the structure. make it worthwhile for

government bureaucrats and getting rid of waste. the structure properly, really just let the thing go and it'll take care of itself. it's like tax cuts and doing the cuts and private sector caring for the job and same thing is true on spending reductions and putting in for efficiency and productivity and all that growth, it'll be beautiful. if you don't make it a structure, there's no way people, even elon musk and vivek can possibly control and handle all those data from the trillions and trillions of things. you need to set a structure in place that will take care of itself with dynamically improving exist doing that, they'll win big for a long, long time. i'm really happy about what they're doing. >> steve moore, the issue of dynamic scoring so so important and trump tax cuts are being about 5 trillion, 6 trillion and that's simply not true. and any decent supply curve and

any decent laffer curve or any decent growth incentives and they're wildly wrong and cbo wrong, the pen penn warton modes wrong and tax foundation and dynamic scoring, steve moore. it'll be so important. >> you're spot on correct and don't forget about the group committee for responsible budget. in favor of every tax increase ever and never in favor of cutting spending. i want to give a statistic that documents what you just said. i look back at data, the year before we did the tax cut, okay, larry, before and looked on baseline of what happens to revenues over the next ten years and looked at where we are today. the revenues today are higher than they were expected than if hasn't done the tax cut at all. not saying necessarily the tax cuts paid for themselves but

there was no revenue loss and no observable revenue loss whatsoever and those models have to be kicked out. but we can find ways to offset any revenue loss. for example, trump saying we're not cutting social security and medicare benefits, but what about cutting out the fraud in the programs, larry. we spend hundreds of billions and general accounting said there's hundreds of billions of dollars sent out by the federal government to fraudsters and they don't even live in the united states and nobody does anything about it. larry: we'll do this in another segment, gentlemen, but things like food stamps and medicaid and some of the so called smaller entitlements, you need to have work requirements in there then move some out into the states for federalism. sorry, we don't have quite enough time. do it again. you make a lovely couple, art laffer and steve moore. appreciate it very much. folks, switching gears quickly,

bring in my good friend senator kevin cramer, member of armed services committee. senator cramer, thank you, sir. i want to ask you, we're not going to solve this today. i want to ask you, there's talk, more than just talk, discussions are going on about at least a commission to investigate the catastrophic cut and run from afghanistan. could go as far as treason. what do you think? there should be an investigative commission and one was never done and nobody was fired and what do you make of it, senator cross-claim instruct her >> first of all u larry, i like the idea of doing it. to your point, it's really never been looked into with a lot of information. there was a report in september that was revealing and they had

to subpoena whatever information they did get and stone walled by several of the biden administration officials. they should have been able to interview them. when the democrats were in charge, they did a single hearing with no interviews or transcripts of any interviews and we need to do it to not re-litigate but make sure we never repeat it. it had devastating consequences not just to the united states but the worship god at large because it was the first message we have a weakling in the white house and desperate dictator in the world from vladamir putin to xi jinping and kim jong-un and ayatollahs decided this is the time to do it. we want to end the world. i think we have to do it. again, treason is a bit much. i don't know. remember there's comments from people that use to serve and are a bit freer and general frank mckenzie, he's been pretty open

and clear there were policy mchis takes and he takes full blame because that's what a good soldier and general does and commander does that . he takes the burden on his own shoulders, even though he wasn't to blame. but he was clear there were bad policy decisions that led to the situation that led to this awful withdraw l withdrawal. larry: the idea that pete hegseth or whoever it might be but mr. hegseth certainly, should have a a look at vieabiy of top lines in -- viability in the generals and pentagon and how much do we need and who's been doing a good job, who's not been doing a good job? just 30 seconds, senator cramer. what do you think of that? >> well, i think it's fine for secretary to do that.

>> they wouldn't read her dei statement to the troops. she got rid of them. having said that, we need to be careful not putting all the blame on men and women leading the military and they're absoluting upstream to political leadership. it's fine for a new secretary to take a look at all that . we have to be careful that we want to make sure that our young new service members know that there's upward mobility for them. that they too can aspire to achieve a star or two or three or four so we don't want to just go in guns ablazes necessarily but that's the jock of the civilian leadership of the united states military is to run the place. noted the generals. stuart:-my point. i'm not impugning anything and suggesting that reviews may be a good and useful tool. senator kevin cramer, thank you, sir. appreciate it.

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larry: we're joined by newt gingrich here. former speaker of the house and fox news contributor. i agree. two in plashings one is pete hegseth at defense and matt gaetz at justice. two places that are badly in need of reform. two reformer who is would like to do the job. my problem is the fbi vetting those two guys. the fbi has a pretty poor track record coming to anything to do with donald trump and/or his allies. am i overly concerned or what do you think about all that 124 >> i think it's a legitimate concern that the fbi has, at least at the top levels being corrupted. on the other hand they will each go in front of senate committee, they'll have their attorney,

they'll have allies on their side and people opposed. they'll be open hearings, they'll be under oath, and i sussuspect this is a process you have to go through. they each have strengths and weaknesses. it'll be interesting to see every senator has to make a decision and i think it's harder frankly on the attorney general because of the enormous policing power the attorney general has. i'm more confident about defense department because frankly it has to get shaken up and whether it's pete hegseth, he'll probably do a good job, or somebody else. should not be an insider or somebody that's comfortable with the generals and contractors and pete could do a great job and both have to be prepared to go in front of a senate committee

and answer very tough questions. larry: i agree with going in front of the committee 100%. the fbi part concerns me. our friend mo mollie hemingway, very, very smart and great columnist. she's got hammer and tongs, okay. song and verse why the charges against matt gaetz are wrong, why they come from a phony, completely discredited former county tax commissioner in florida. that's the stuff that gets leaked by the fbi. and he's got to go through the judiciary committee and on the floor. all this stuff and challenges me with this article. >> look, i think we should all be worried about the degree to which the intelligence agencies and fbi and to some extent homeland security have all been

corrupted and all accepted standards that don't involve protecting the innocent or telling the truth. that's frankly why trump was elected by the american people and they want somebody to clean up what's an increasingly sick system in washington. but at the same time under our constitution, there's a bunch of senators in both parties and right there in public, and both sides get to make the case and see who wins. i think the burden of proof has to be on the accuser and the presumption that both are innocent unless the evidence is overwhelming. larry: i agree with you. i agree with your process points and i also agree it's the most reform-oriented cabinet probably going back to the reagan years. newt, i'm sorry. we're kind of flat out of time, but we'll talk to you some more on all these related soucts. newt gingrich, everybody. former speaker and dear friend,

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