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celebration continues its joyous fashion. much more on that. but we have harris faulkner, rich lowry and miranda divine on set. up, trump victory dance shows no since of letting up, that is the subject the riff. >> one of the most remarkable parts about donald trump's stand slide victory is 11 days later his victory lap continues in what must be a historic celebration, for trump continues what is now known as the trump dance, here he is boogieing this past thursday night. i was there boo boogieing with him check it out. we have seen this trump dance before. he did is is the day night

at ufc championship fight. he got a continuous standing ovation. listen to this. >> president-elect trump. larry: you see him embracing joe rogan, roughly 35 million listeners and viewers contributed to mr. trump's victory, let's see they will get together in a second, here it comes wait for it. walking in. now he will say, hello, there is dana. not quite. i think we'll get theo joe rogan in a moment. hang on, hang on. not quite. we're fast. all right hang on it will play while i'm talking. notice by the way, boxing champ john jones, also during the trump dance --

doing trump dance giving president-elect his championship belt there is rogan. 35 million viewers and listeners did not hurt. and by the way, in addition to all of boogieing. and madison square garden boxing championship. nfl players are doing the trump dance in the end zone. wow, check this out. i think it is coming up, hold on. there it is. there. look at that. look at -- there were a bunch of them we can't show them all, a great dance, country is in a joyous mood. voters want trump to succeed. they why everyone for a a -- yearn for a new golden age. i do think he is first to go 11 days, and still counting, i think he is the first to have football player dogs a presidential dance. in his honor in the end zone. let's focus on the ufcboxing

championship at msg, i heard miranda devine was there. this was a hero's welcome. by and large, from young people. now in today's "wall street journal" patrick talks about young. leaving the democratic party. and going to mr. trump's new republican party. in 2008, here are numbers president biden won the 18 to 29 year old vote by 34 points, those same voters, now roughly 30 to 44 years old, went for kamala harris by only 3 points. among today's 18-29-year-olds that is today, miss harris had 4 point edge. numbers change. but the trump working class landslide includes blacks, hispanics, asians, unions and the young moving from democrat kamala to republican trump. all want economic growth. and a closed border, and an

america they exhibit proud of, the new trump coalition is called as aspirational and i agree. he has appointed 28 cabinet and senior positions for his administration. as our friend newt gingrich writes, this is the most reform oriented cabinet in history -- promises made, promises kept, success is the best way to end divisions and unify the nation, a new golden age. you don't get a nationally joyous victory celebration like mr. trump's unless the country is rooting for you. and that is the riff. boogieing, coming up, joining us now harris faulkner, co-host of odd numbers and host of faulkner

focus on fox news, rich lowry, editor and chief national review, miranda divine, fox news cont critter, harris, i will leadoff with you. come on, together. >> do eureally now we'll be a meme. larry: this may not last. we have seen presidential honeymoons before, i get that i don't think that i have seen one this long however, i. this intense. and it -- i didn't see, nfl players dance a dance in the end zone. but it is interesting to me that i sense countriments him to succeed. >> i don't think that democrats were wrong when they first tries to run kamala harris and she had a decidedly long honeymoon period too it didn't hang on when they first put her in over joe biden. they were not wrong that country could use joy and up lift, many people struggling

to get food on table and still told they're imagine their journey. they just can't sustain it, because the facts were ya against them, right now there is a collectif, okay, we have decided as a nation who the next president will be. we don't have a wait in limbo unless you are in a state senate or house race. that is a defendant story. you don't have to worry about that with president. now, joy can begin of what is next. when will the change come. you see him like, with speed trying to get his cabinet picks in place. he is moving forward to prove that he can get it done, and he is true to who he is, ough a 37 authenticity, he will go to the ufc championship and take the victory lap, there will be people there who might not have said they wanted to vote for him who

did, many look like me, many are hispanic or asian. and just to see you bust a move. larry: he does not use his lower body. >> have you sun the golf swing that takes your feet, you have to end in the ice cream cone. with putting cabinet together. and hearing push against him potentially on hill with lawmakers, then hearing the blue led state democrat governors say saying defy the people's choice, and push against every he does in their interest. it is rich. if they think they will win back voters that way, they are wrong, but the joy will reside on the right side of the aisle until the left decides to smile and move on. larry: miranda that is an interesting point, because, i watch phil mr murphy governor of new jersey, a very nice man, and kathy

hochul in new york, gavin newsom i'm not surprised. i know him well too. that say whole different story. if they will stand in the way deliberately at the outset, they will create and much ill will for themselves, republicans might take their states or better than last election turning blue to red. this is folly for them, he has not even started and country seems to be behind him, how dumb are they. >> really dumb, how well did that tactic work, the trump derangement syndrome when nancy pelosi was running it, they lost coast to coast, even san francisco swung to trump by 7 points they lost house and senate and electoral college and popular vote, trump derange. ment. everyone saw through it.

you saw "morning joe" making the humiliating parade down to mar-a-lago to change sides it does not work, i don't know what governor doing think they can mount a resistance, they will oppose some of the policies but give him a chance but calling him hitler and d ddemonizing him, and trying to impeachment him and assassinate him, made him stronger. larry: i saw a story trump 76 million plus i think 76.4 million most votes any republican president has received. and still ahead in popular vote by a couple million here, shade in el electoral college by me more. how did you read this? we have seen honeymoons before, it may be his

personality, easy to follow. but i don't see anything quite like that, that i can remember even back to reagan, you get a couple days things set settle down. >> first, thank you for not asking me to bo boogie on air, i appreciate that the madison square garden moment, if you said a republican politician at ufc championship will get a huge applause, rudy giuliani maybe after september 11 but otherwise no. this goes to new audience he tapped into, a lot of voters there in the garden and msg are a moderate, you know i don't care about politics that much but left went so far, "financial times" had a great piece, democrats w went so far left, center moved left, you are a moderate but now right of center, you are now i'm occurring him, he is normal

compared to the others. he made gains among moderates and a lot of blue areas because people are s disaffected with the disastrous governance in the cities. larry: an article, the biggest mistake the democrats made was ignores the inflation problem. i think cultural issues played a quieter but key role, it was all about biological men playing in women's sports to somi economy --i extent. people saw and heard things did not like woke and d.e.i. and cancel culture, i think about mad madison square garden and young kids in there most are probably under 35, i don't think they liked it one bit.

>> you are talking about iceberg that is above the ocean, part you don't see the bigger part of the iceberg, really there were just issues of race, companiture, and ethnicity that were played on the left in dangerous ways playing us against each other, telling black menu men, you don't support black women because you are misogynistic, you are not really loving them, and that came from a former president barack obama. it was the not like they were man plained by someone they did not know but arms akimbo, he was telling them you had to be black, a time who joe biden said, if you were black and didn't vote for him, you were not really black, you don't get to lecture cultures paying beyonce and oprah,. larry: she really needed that money. >> i don't know, i am not really into her finances, but, you know, i did lizzo

need mill yo millions anyway, performers got paid to be on stage not to sing but support in public kamala harris. she had a real disconnect with hispanics. and blacks in this country, and asians and other cultures and races saw it and said or bottom line is not doing well either, i interviewed all voters from every ilk, and a age group, they said harris you are right the color is green, aspect should be american dream driven it is not. she keeps laughing and smiling and then she got serious toward the end and start calling people fascists and y you know her vice presidential partner tim walz, you know everyone at msg for trump say neaz, nazi, they were divides and black people got quiet where was james clyburn until a couple

of days ago. >> a sub merged iceberg opposition to woke stuff, most people it happens in their work place or in the hospital or medical office, whisper conversations, this is treasuriure not a mother you are a birthing parent, this was a way for people to decent that audible, they going in voting book in secret make their views known by voting for big middle finger to that stuff. larry: i think that trump knew it, his closing ads had this quite a bit of the cultural issue in them. you know -- >> he said 3 i she is for they, them and trump is for you. >> the choices people make personal choices that is up to them, text pa -- taxpayers paying for it or paying mr. the prisoners i

think that is just like a silent majority that was furious at this stuff, we talked about it in out numbered. it and i think a lot of people mistrk missed it, a lot of pollsters did miranda, maybe less euphoric but important, one is pete hegseth story. in the pentagon. and other is matt gaetz story. you wrote on pete hegseth story. what is that will do? they have witnesses who are not good witnesses? or not credible? what is that they are worried about with pete hegseth? >> well i don't think that trump is worried about him, i think that trump is going ahead with him. this is just usual smear that every single member of this administration will suffer. and we have seen that trump and his people are teflon,

they have thrown every smear possible at trump and called him a rapist and a nazi, you name it he won a landslide. so it doesn't work. i think people see it for what it is. pete hegseth is a danger to the blob to the sort of military industrial c complex he is a real soldier he is against the woke d.e.i., endless wars, a point less military spending and matt gaetzs is the same, they are bid ill fin fing -- they are both middle fingers by trump to the deep state, telling them it is not going to be business as usual any more, i'm not going to be mr. nice guy. >> one mistake trump made first time, generals are impressive, they tend to be good at one thing, does not mean they will be good at politics or have political ocourage or original good

views he say forget generals i am going to a war fighter. and pete's views on this this role military to go out and break things and kill people, and you are not going po poison it is a idiotic d.e.i. is right. larry: d.e.i. is a form of i think of it as affirmative action on steroids, i believe that original affirmative action became very unpopular with lawsuits and anti-semitism is very unpopular. somehow -- >> anti-semitism is wrong. larry: deadly wrong, it is very wrong. morally wrong and unpopular. but, democrats are wound up lining up behind all of these things, they never lifted a finger on anti-semitism or lifted -- they defended woke to the

bitter end, how could they be so st stupid, there is no common sense, how could they be so sp stupid. >> the goal is to control, i had a gift, who said d.e.i. is didn't earn it. when you give and i don't know how constitutionally fair it is, but what you -- we are looking at things very much decades post civil rights and other movements here, but particularly that one that had to do with affirmative action and other moments to try to right size salaries and opportunity. you get to land of merit, and where everyone has to be looked on now for what they can bring to the table, what people really want is a leg up, there are a lot waives ways to help people without putting them into a category that is not an

an. >> stop putting us in the categories, and diversity is not just hair color or texture, i was raised military, things make us diverse on the type of situation on the job. that is diversity, but that is not what we're seeing, if i could jawf just say one quick thing with nominees, you mentioned pete hegseth,y would say this nation actually aft watched a white house put up with behavior of current disappearing for days after a surgery did not disclose, and the white house did not even know he was gone, i think that bar is someplace where i can't see. a crisis of merit and

concern. pete hegseth is a bronze star winner two times. they will vet, and depose everyone i would think is that not how they do it i don't think if they will use fbi, trump said he had too much recent experience with federal bureau of investigation he might not want you to but you come to nominees, talk about middle finger that is a middle finger to public who just voted for trump. . larry: one of authors of new republican working class coalition, mr. trump's new coalition members embrace politics of aspiration and not a left ward shift toward departme depa dependency on government, they were told to support democratic party because it was the party of the poor their response, we

don't have to be poor. not so much. >> race, yes, always there. i get that, religion always there. and how about the economy? how about growth? trump is playing to, that they remember middle and lower income working folks remembered their take home pay you were trump the first time. >> the implicit offer. larry: it was damn good. >> implicit offer to hispanics, you could be an ooppressed minority too, you can be a victim group, no, we want to be americans and second like everyone else, a lot of polling shows that hispanics cared more about the economy than white voter. larry: i love this we don't have to be poor, i love it. larry: kamala proved it. >> only group she gained in over biden and trump was people urgin earning

over 100 thousand a year, i think that trump hit on something, when he started saying i'm cutting taxes on social security on both ends of spectrum. >> and tips. larry: and overtime. >> wageworkers who are not earning wage that keeps up with inflation, which is going back up. larry: fox host overtime. no taxes. >> friday didn't inflation rate tick back up. >> yeah, so biden is going out to some bad news. larry: that is correct. that is right. we'll see, if the joy continues. >> it is here. >> did you want to do something. >> a dance? >> you want me to -- you know what i think you reich like to dance, we need music i'll dance with you. larry: thank you rich lowry and miranda devine and harris faulkner. i am ready. larry: coming up breaking

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larry: breaking news, democrats may not be able to steal pennsylvania senate seat from my pal david mccormick, we spring -- bring in my pal michael whatley. the obvious question, will it end all of this nonsense and let david mccormick have his seat? >> this clears wait for them to have the recount that they need to have, the vote is within half a point. that is okay. wen 't this recount to take place. i think bob casey could have c canceled it, it would have been better for the taxpayers, we'll go through and then dave mr. core mick mccormick will be declared the winner. it is important that

everyone one of these counties need too follow pennsylvania law. larry: what is south there? -- what out there? 20 thousand votes left to be counted? >> that is about right. they will recount every vote, but, they have never seen any re recount that overturned anything like this. average recounts flip about 300 or 500 votes, we're not seeing this overturned. bob casey should save the taxpayers that money from going through this process. he won't. so we'll go through it and then we'll have dave mccormick declared winner oof the case. larry: i know c casey's dad well. he should just step back up to the plate and be a man. >> i think that key is that we saw the voters of

pennsylvania stand up on november 5, elected dave mccormick and voted for donald trump. and significant numbers. that clears the way for us to have a republican majority in senate. pennsylvania was a critical state for donald trump, i think it is a bellwether state, what we have seen over last 4 years is unacceptable to american voters, and donald trump has a clear common sense mandate, going forward, and we'll very excited to have dave mccormick entering the senate to be a rock solid voice there. larry: amen thank you michael whatley. >> coming on kudlow, vivek ramaswamy says doge will delete inter federal agencies. and a lot of bureaucrats we'll talk about that is art

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larry: hottest economy story right now, is something called doge. department of government efficency, elon musk and vivek ramaswamy. i want reaction from art laffer and steve moore. and you know steve moore, you look at what he said vivek on maria yesterday, he will slash the budget, go after the bureaucracy. but actually not only the regulatory agencies but maybe abolish some of the regulatory agents. that is -- agency that is noble goals. >> music to my ears. if you go back to reagan era and you and art played a big role in reagan

administration, we had grace commission found billions of dollars of waste in budget then, i think that was privately financed. and my point, if they could find hundreds of billions in the '80s think of how much we have in terms of waste and duplication and fraud and inefficiency in these federal agencies. you know it was speaking of reagan. reagan said that closest thing to immortality on this earth is federal government program, we have programs, that go back to the before world war i, even, war of 1812, we still spend money on the programs and we don't know what they do. larry: i tried -- when i was working for merg mr. jefferson i tried to cut it down. i can't get it done 250 years ago. afart laffer, how

important is it because tax cuts extending trump .0 adding traps trump 2.0, many in congress want supply side tax cuts. so, do you do these things together? or do you one before the other? mindful you have to go through omb it will take longer i think that get the musk and vivek thing done, they want it done in july. what comes first? that is what i'm saying? >> the tax cuts come first, right away, you want to reup the tax cutting and jobs act. you want to godo with this government thing, we held job of chief economist at omb at one stage in our lives, none of this stuff will work unless they put correct incentives into it. you have to make it worth while for government bureaucrats s to do things

efficiently and get rid of waste, once you have it properly you could let it go it will take care of itself, like tax cuts, if you do tax cuts private sector will take care of the job, same for spending reductions, you put it for efficiency and productivity you will get bureaucracy to do the job. if you don't make it a structure, there is no way people even elon musk or vivek ramaswamy could control and handle all of those data from the trillions of things, you need too set a structure in place, that will take care of itself, and dynamically improve yourself, if they do, that they will win big for a long time, i am happy about what they are doing. >> steve moore, i think -- art is talking about dynamics, i think that issue of dynamic scoring will be important, trump tax cuts bandied about 5 trillion, 6 trillion that is not true

any decent supply curve or laffer curve or growth in incentive. they are wrong, the -- i mean, the dynamic scores, i think that will be's important. >> you are spot on. and the crazy group the committee for responsible budget, that in favor of every tax increase, but never of cutting. i will to give a statistic that document us what said, i looked back at data, year before we did the tax cuts, before, i look at their baseline and what will happen to revenues over next 10 years, and i look at where we are today. and revenues today are higher than they were expected to have been if we didn't do tax cuts, i say there was no revenue loss,

no observe able revenue loss. so those models have to be kicked out. but, we could find ways to offset any revenue loss, for example you know trump is correctly saying we'll not cut social media and medicare -- social security and medicare benefits but what about cuts fraud in the programs there are billions are that sent out by federal government to fraudsters, they don't live in united states though one does anything about it. larry: you know, you could also, we'll do this in another segment food stamps and medicated and some of smaller entitlements, you need to have work requirements in there. >> yes. larry: then move some of that stuff out to statessalla federalism, we don't have enough time, we'll do it again. you make a l lovely couple art last laffer and steve moore.

larry: bringing in my good friend senator kevin cramer. i want to ask you. there's talk more than just talk, discussions are going on about at least a commission to investigate the catastrophic cut and run from afghanistan. and could mean it could go as far as treason. i don't want to prejudge. but, in your judgment as armed service committee member, what do you think? should there be an investigative commission, none was of done, now one was fired as far as i know. >> well, larry, i like the idea of doing it to your point it has never been looked into with a lot of information. mccaul and republicans in house intelligence commit i did a report that came out that is revealing but they had to subpoena whatever

information they did get, they were stonewalled by several biden administration officials. when the democrats were in charge they did a single hearing with no interviews or no trans transcripts of any interviews we need do it not so much in relitigate it, but to make sure we never repeat it it had devastating consequences not just u.s. but world at large it was the first message that we have a weakling in white house, and every desanctdespot and dictatdictator in country decided this the time to do what we want. we have do it treason is a bit much, but remember, there have been some comes f-- comments from people that used serve now a little freer, general frank mckenzie has been clear

there were policy mistakes, he takes full blame. that is what a good soldier does. he takes the burden on his own shoulders, even though he was not to blame but it is clear there were bad policy consolidations that s -- decisions. larry: idea that the incoming defense secretary, pete hegseth, or whomever in might be. should have a look at the viability i'll say, of a lot of the top lines of the generals in the pentagon. somebody has to take a look at, that how much of them to we need? who has been doing a good job, and who has not, what do you can think senator kevin cramer. >> there were a number of air force gen generals

pushed out. they did not agree with ortiz, they would not read her d.e.i. statements to the troop, we have to be careful to not put all blame on men and women who lead our military wearing uniform, they salute upstream to the -- leadership we have to make sure that our young new service members know that there is upward mobility for them they can aspire to achieve a star or four of and we e not guns ablaze necessarily but that is the job of the civilian leadership of u.s. military, is to run the place. not the generals. >> that semipoint. i'm not -- that is my point. i know there are patriots. i'm just suggesting that reviews, may be a good and useful tool, senator kevin cramer thank you. >> sir.

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suggesting that president trump has put together the most reformed oriented cabinet in decade, newt gingrich, joining us right here, great friend, former speaker of the house fox news contributor. i agree, but ask you about two in particular one is pete hegseth at defense, other matt gaetz at justice. two places that are badly needed reform. two reformers who would like to do the job. here is my problem. the fbi vetting those two. the fbi has a pretty poor track record when it comes to anything to do with donald trump or his allies. am i overly concerned? >> look, i think it is a legitimate concern that fbi has at least at top levels been corrupted on other hand, they will each go in front of senate committee, they will have their attorney, they will have

allies on their side. and they will have people who are opposed to them, there will be open hearings and under oath. i suspect there is a process you have to go through, they have strengths and weaknesses. and i think it will be interesting to see every senator hassa to make a decision, i think harder on attorney general because of the enormous policing power that attorney general has. i am more confident about the defense department, because, it has to get shaken up. and whether it is pete hegseth or who i think could do a good job or someone el it should not be an inside or someone who and conti-- who is c comfortable with the generals and big contract ors, i think that pete hegseth could coa good job, they both have to go in

front of a committee and answer tough questions. larry: i want to bring your attention, our friend mollie hemingway, a great columnist with hammer and tongues, song inverse, where the charges against matt gaetz are wrong, they come from a phony discredited former county tax commissioner in florida. that is the stuff that gets leaked by the fbi. and if gates condition pass muster before the senate hearings, i agree 100%. he has to go through judiciary committee then floor, but this other stuff troubles me and mollie has written a terrific article. >> we should be worried about the degree to which boykin teligent agencies and the fbi and to some extent homeland security have been

corrupted and accepted standard that down involve protecting innocent and telling the truth, this is why trump was elected by the american people. because, they want someone to clean up about what what is a sick system in washington, but same time youunder or constitution we h senators in both parties that will be in public, they both sides get to make a case we'll see who wins, i think burden of proof has to be with accuser. you have to have ay presumption that both are innocent, unless evidence is over whelming. larry: i agree with you. with that process point and agree to most reform oriented cabinet probably back to reagan years, i am sorry newt we're out of time, we'll talk to you some more on these related subjects, newt gingrich, former speaker, a dear friend, fox news

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