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welcome to kudlow. i am larry kudlow. vicious murder of 22-year-old nursing student down in georgia. byron donald here to talk about enforcing donald trump's border closing and deportation land. plus, joe biden now trying to start world war iii as a lame-duck. first up fox news live in west palm beach florida. peter, what is cooking down there? >> larry, we are getting this initial lead from elected democrats on the nato ambassador matt whitaker. what we are hearing is democrats believe he could have as much of an impact on u.s. foreign policy has anybody. >> what i can say more broadly is nato and the biden

administration, we need to lift restrictions to strike russian oil refinery capacity. >> president elect trump is now blaming democrats. this is what the radical left lunatics due to people. they destroy them and then they spit them out. great american patriots trying to fix the mess that the democrats have made of our country. we will win. problems persist, that is some members of his own party pleading with him not to do. >> if there are some appointments that become troublesome, will the president use the recess appointment process? >> yes. the president has won a mandate. >> i want president trump to consider if it is possible or a

member or some of these partisan appointments that obama did. not for cabinet level position. that should be absolutely off the table. >> something we have been hearing the border czar does not need to be senate confirmed teasing ahead a few weeks as president trump's plan to use the u.s. military to help with administrative tasks and transportation for mass deportations. that is coming back into focus because of the laken riley murder case that was just concluded. president biden said it was justice for her today. >> what is new in the treasury rates? meeting with president trump. >> there is nothing new.

hearing whispers that it could come today. the broader theme as we understand it, the reason for the delay is because president trump really wants to get someone who will help him enthusiastically enforce some of the new tariffs. he needs somebody at treasury who will help him with terrace and not scare the markets. it is on clear who his favorite is right now, but, that appears to be the hold up. >> did you take your name out of the race? >> for treasury secretary? no. i am right here. they can come and find me. the same block is where i work now. >> right around the corner from where your usual beat is. thank you very much. no matter what liberals say,

donald trump will close the border and deport criminals. that is the subject of the rift. all eyes are back on the immigration issue as this horrible venezuelan gangster tragically killed laken riley was sentenced to life without parole for his vicious murder of the young nursing student. this illegal migrant murderer was caught crossing the border in 2022, quickly paroled and release into the countryside. one year later he was arrested in new york, charged with several crimes and released before i.c.e. could get a hold of him. by the way, he was flown down to georgia at taxpayer expense. this is not the first murder committed by an illegal immigrant, nor is it the first time liberal prosecutors and sanctuary cities have released illegal immigrant criminals. but, liberals never seem to learn.

donald trump just won a landslide victory for one of the absolute top key issues with closing the border and stopping the flood of illegals. it was a mandate to change, yet, listen, some of these liberal whiners who insist on imposing trump's plan to deport criminals just listen to this. >> we will not be participated in this effort that harms our communities. it tears families apart. we are not, that is not going to happen on my watch. >> the idea of calling out the army into the domestic confines of the united states seems uncalled for and may in fact be unconstitutional and illegal. >> we are not cooperating with the efforts that actually threaten the safety of everyone by causing widespread fear. >> you know, the idea that trump will break up families or have military roam around cities or incarcerate grandmothers, all of

this is complete bogus stuff. has nothing to do with anything. any use of the military will be for nonenforcement duties like transportation or infrastructure or administration. the idea that liberals will sort of stand in the schoolhouse door or make it the city hall steps nowadays, they will stop mr. trump from deporting criminals is not only dumb politics, it is also on lawful. i am not the lawyer, but, first off, federal law, supersedes local law. second. section 287 g of the immigration and nationalization act allows i.c.e. enforcement and removal operations to identify and remove incarcerated criminal

non-citizens. it also permits i.c.e. and other immigration officials to collaborate with state and local law enforcement to protect the homeland through the arrest and removal of noncitizens who undermine the safety of our nations communities and, again, i want to repeat, federal law supersedes local law. now, mr. trump and mr. homan will undoubtably use these and other statutes to send terminals back home to stop the terrorists from coming here and to close the border. this is what he was elected to do. in a landslide. if liberals keep fighting it, they will just keep losing landslide elections. perhaps that is a great outcome. that is the rift. talking about this among other things, florida congressman byron donald, u.s. house claudia tenney. thank you to both of you.

claudia, i'm not the lawyer, you are the lawyer. 287 g, 212 is another one. these are federal statutes. sections of the immigration and naturalization service act that expressly, expressly gives up federal authority to remove these criminals incarcerated or not, furthermore, federal law supersedes local law. these liberal whiners, i don't care, let them whine. they will just keep losing elections. probably other statutes that you can cite. >> you are absolutely right on the law. new york city passes law called the green light law under governor cuomo. sharing between local law enforcement and federal law enforcement to determine if they are illegal immigrants. it gives them the access to a drivers license. i will tell you, there is one

county in the state of new york, my good friend is a county executive, who refuse to enforce the law based on what cuomo in the new york democrats wanted. leticia james, our attorney general has threatened to go after and pursue and sue any of these counties that actually try to interfere with the law that was passed to protect illegal immigrants and prevent i.c.e. from intervening which would have saved laken riley, by the way, had laken riley, her murderer been detained by the u.s. police department. to georgia where he was able to murder laken riley. new york state law, the left wing that runs the state assembly. continuing to allow this happen under threat from the lawless malicious prosecution of leticia james who i think should be disbarred and removed from office for a number of things. >> politically, it is interesting.

all of these sanctuary city people, the mayors of san francisco lost in the last election. the mayor of oakland california lost in the last election. we did pretty well. trump did pretty well in his home state of new york, for example. the politics here sounds futile to me. go ahead, let them complain. the country has spoken, the voters have spoken. they spoke by a lot. this really was not a catch whisker, this was a landslide. >> donald trump has a mandate. the greatest presidential mandate since reagan in 1984. to have these blue state governors, these blue city mayors decide that they will interpret federal law how they see fit in the face of donald trump's overwhelming victory is agree just scared here really

suffers are the good people that live in these cities and live in these states. they are american citizens, they deserve to be protected. donald trump is going to secure the border and eliminating illegal aliens from our countries. that is what he is supposed to do as commander-in-chief following the law. it is agree just. at this folk should they be getting federal funds? if they will not follow federal law, why are you following federal dollars. it comes from the pockets of the american people and of dollars will be going to municipalities and states, the lease they can do is follow the law and help president trump uphold the law. >> are like that. i like that a lot. if the locals one, i don't know if you are sure that new york, new york state can supersede federal law.

that just did not sound kosher to me. i will let that sit for a minute mr. trump, you know, he will be bold. he will do what he is elected to do. people in new york want him to stop criminals. people are sick and tired of this. unless and until they start cooperating with the federal authorities, you know that the blue line, the police and uniforms, they would love to cooperate with i.c.e. you know that, claudia. >> that is not a question of whether or not the law supersedes. with the type of judges that you have, the prosecutor that you have, that is a problem. president biden, he decided to have the power right now to

close the border. as you know, he is my constituent he lives in my district it he wants to seal the border, deport illegal aliens that are criminals for the 300,000 children that have been human traffic throughout our country coming across the northern border acute problem. we started the northern border security caucus because of the cartels taking over the northern border, as well as the southern border. this is what president trump will do. everything is starting to fall in line. i have done numerous law enforcement roundtable throughout my district, they are celebrating the day that president trump walks into office and he can finally enforce our laws and stand up for them. that is exactly what we need. >> byron donald, on another subject, you had your fema hearing, the head of fema was there. are you convinced now that fema won't discriminate against people with trump law signs?

i really think it is something in the face of life threatening hurricanes and so forth. is it really up and down, it was not just one person in the lower levels? it started from the top. >> i am not convinced at all. frankly throughout all of the federal agencies. this is why all of the appointments that are being made by donald trump are critical. they all must be confirmed. the united states senate needs to do the right thing and let the president make his pics. he is the one with the mandate to get the job done. what is happening, administrator criswell in committee yesterday could not unequivocally state that they have finished their investigation and they know that this does not go on. they are still in the middle of that process still working with dig. i believe, personally, this is very pervasive through that agency. it has been this way under joe biden. this is what we are seeing in

terms of their equity agenda that they were pushing. the political use of the federal government. all through the federal government. this is what we have been seeing from top to bottom and it has to stop. that is why donald trump needs his cabinet pics to be confirmed i : republicans in the u.s. senate to step up and do the right thing. if you can vote for garland to be attorney general, i mean, come on. you can vote for matt gates. >> okay. you opened up that pandora's box listen, this is what democrats do. this is what garland does. this is what the democratic liberal media does. it is called false sex smearing. in this case going after matt gates. they are going after pete. they hate every single cabinet. it is like a chorus. this one is terrible. this new one is worse.

this new latest one is absolutely worse. one after another. they are all worse. and it is a bunch of smearing. you know this, claudia, not even the justice department could bring those charges against matt gates. i don't know everything there is to know, i have acknowledged that. i am just saying that i do know that a former tax collector in seminole florida who is now serving out an 11 year jail term is a guy behind the accusations, he and his two, shall we say, sex worker friends in the justice department under garland could not even what the knights the case. i am with byron. stop already. i just get these guys through. just as soon as january 20 rolls around her whenever the due date is. >> i agree. matt gates deserves a chance. he is a brilliant guy.

he will going to make sure he cleans up doj. you will see these people serving. all of those people are exactly what we are seeing in fema. only at a higher level with a lot more power. if matt does not work out, president trump will revisit that. that's the thing. not everyone works out. he could be a superstar. he could really do a great job. let them have the chance to do that. trump is a risk taker. but the people in the positions where you think they may have a shot and if they don't you move on. if they do, they do a great job. that is part of being a business you have to take risks. byron knows what it's like to be a businessperson. risk-taking is what it is about. this is why people went to president trump, this is why he got elected. >> linda mcmahon is going to be confirmed to be at she will make it, i am sure. god knows if they try to smear her. a very good friend of mine, a

very brilliant woman, administrator and so forth and so on. good business lady. she has been trying to dismantle the education department. she will try to instill or put forward school choice which president trump is so keen on. get minorities educated properly i think they are the ones that suffer the most, but they are not the only ones that suffer. this is a good woman in pursuit of a noble cause, byron. >> totally agree. the thing that most people do not know, they will probably find out in short order, she is tough. she has direct. she will be in business. you will not intimidate her. great pick by president trump there. at the end of the day, the experiment that has occurred over really, the last 45, 46 years with the department of education and our country to read on grade level and to do math on grade level has decreased since the federal

department of education was opened back in 1977, 1978 around that time. we have seen the experiment. it has not worked. it is time to turn the page and do the right thing and make sure that education is for the children number one and that parents are at the head of the table not waiting on the bureaucrats. i know mcmahon will get it done. great pick. >> i've never set foot in law school. are you impressed with my legal research and knowledge. >> i am very impressed. larry, you are amazing. [laughter] you know who is a real leader in education, byron's wife. she is amazing. she's been a leader on this subject for many many years. a great resource to byron and helping us out if we ever have a question. not only does she know it, she lives at. a lot of great people that are part of trump's spirit. >> bring her on the show. i am all for it.

>> any time. she loves you, larry. honey, i told claudia to say all of that. i picked up all the broudy points. >> i've met your wife. i met your wife in milwaukee. anyway. you are both fabulous. thank you. fabulous stuff. really appreciate. coming up. 92% of the federal reserve board staff donates to democrats. 92%. i've said this before and i will keep on this subject. we have the congressman that could be running the house banking committee and we have economist next up. remember, you can catch kudlow monday through friday 4:00 p.m. right here on fabulous fox business. if for some reason you cannot get us up for, please, text your favorite 9-year-old and she will

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of federal reserve staff donations go to democrats. 92%. we will show you a chart in just a minute. we will bring in my good friend. afp i. gentlemen, welcome. there is so much gobbledygook about how the fed is independent i hope you can see the chart. it was only recently, okay, you go back 25 years. about half and half. fed donations were rather small. mostly half and half. the blue line starts going up. 2020, the blue line explodes. 2024 a little less but it is still the blue line. in all seriousness, i mean, i know you are smiling.

it is not an independent federal reserve. something is happened under jay powell which has made this on independent. a democratic federal reserve board. chairman of the banking committee, you will have to do something about this because it is dead wrong. >> i am shocked. i am gambling that there is going on in the fed. when you look at the reserve banks across the country plus the fed here in washington, d.c. , they are all in blue cities. the fed people are like a lot of the federal bureaucracy. that is what i think the game is changing here in washington. that is the importance of the sweep from president trump, the house and senate that we get to work together, use the supply-side to make more affordable housing in a

community banking grade again. we have to recognize what we are dealing with. i am not shocked that there is gaming at the fed when it comes to how they vote. >> that is very clever quoting casablanca. i will direct this, they have always been cities. nothing has changed. their headquarters have always been in washington, d.c. if i'm not mistaken the study is only about the federal reserve board washington, d.c. they've always been in washington, d.c. the other reserve banks have always been in d.c., to. it seems to have happened under jay powell's tenure. maybe that is just a coincidence falconer, d i, critical race theory, esg climate change, all of these fashionable but harmful diseases have inflicted,

infected the federal reserve. my question is, are the fed, is the fed hiring people from the left in the democratic party deliberately. 2020, four, five, six years, bingo. something is happened here. >> yeah. i would say it is a couple os id universities. particularly in graduate programs. my area and economics among others. the hiring pool that the fed is bringing in people from has moved very much to the left. there used to be a lot of progrowth economies out there. a lot of that literature has moved towards redistribution. one other thing going on. donald trump has changed the electorate. the republican party is now much more of a working class party

and the democrats are the parties of the elite. the one year where the fed primarily donated to republicans , it was when mitt romney was the nominee. the republicans were the party of elites. i think what is going on is donald trump has made this a working class party and the fed is a bunch of elites, not working-class. >> this thing started 26 teen. -- 2016. it explodes in 2020. a little lesson volume in 2024. the proportion does not change in 24. it is all blue. the prior 15 years, 10-12 years, i think, the financial hearing start up again, i think jay powell has to be asked about this. he is out there saying the fed is independent, we are not political, we will not be swayed

by this blah, blah, blah, blah. they are spending their money on democrats. in recent years. there is something amiss here. dti, they are hiring people as was suggested. the whole economics to the left. we barely have any conservative economists. i want you to be chairman of the banking committee, but i want you to go after all of these isms that have infected the fed. >> that is exactly what we will deal. we will use the end of chevron deference. that will be our top focus on regulatory changes if we look and work with president trump to make that happen. >> that is good. good answer. i will just let you go. you know the answer to that. thank you for coming on. >> you bet. lame-duck joe biden about to

start world war iii. you see what he is doing in ukraine all of a sudden, what is that all about? we will ask senator rand paul coming up on kudlow. ♪

i will prevent world war three. very easy i will prevented. we cannot have world war three. we are very, very stupid people running our country. i'm actually worried about three months, they are still there. >> all of his worries are now coming true. joining us now is rand paul. welcome back to the show. joe biden has become mr. ballmer throwing cruise missiles into russia. putin himself is now recalibrating his nuclear defenses and nuclear standards.

this strikes me as utter insanity, senator, paul. >> anyone you talk to about this for saying it is at a stalemate from the generals in ukraine to the russian side to our state department, they admit that it is at a stalemate. the good thing about it means negotiation might be around the corner. when you start lobbying missiles a couple miles into russia, that actually is something that will disrupt and maybe make the war go on longer. i don't know if this is intentional on biden's part, but it certainly is taking away from the real possibility that donald trump could negotiate a solution >> i don't know who is running the white house, i don't know who's running policy. all of a sudden, this flurry, i mean, the guys a lame-duck, senator paul.

he has no business taking these adventurous kinds of actions that all of a sudden he is doing this, not that it matters but even gallup did a poll, if i get this right, 52% of ukrainians want a deal to end the war. i think most americans would, too. i don't think biden has any business doing this. >> a war weariness in ukraine as well as around the world for funding it. biden doing this at the last minute i think is irrational. does not make sense. it also goes with the persona of someone that is weak and perceived as we. people that are perceived as weak overreact and say i have to show people how strong i am so why don't i show how strong i wasn't how i was all in for ukraine even though it will end up being a negotiated settlement it is more about biden trying to save face and project strength than it is about the conflict. i can tell you bush's piece further away when he does things like this. thousands of more ukrainians and

russians will die before the work comes to an end. it makes the end more difficult to achieve when you escalate the use of weapons. >> cutting off some of the funding for this? >> a couple of months ago they said more money to ukraine. this time they said let's call it a loan. from the beginning i knew it was a trick. i knew it was dishonest. now, biden is forgiving the loan fortunately for me and the opponents of this there's an expedited vehicle, a privilege boat they cannot stop me. they don't want to have this boat but they will have this boat today because i found a privilege vehicle. sixteen republican and one democrat senator to sign a discharge on this. so, this evening we will vote to overturn this loan forgiveness. i think that we will lose because unfortunately all of the democrats are for endless money for ukraine. about half of the republicans

are for more money for ukraine, too. this ukraine first policy does not go over well. all you have to do is go to asheville north carolina nasa people suffering there, are you glad that $4 billion has been sent over to help those people in ukraine, but asheville is without portable drinking water? i think you will find americans pretty upset about this. >> it is right up your alley. elon musk, vivek ramaswamy, you may have seen the lengthy wall street journal they posted a few hours ago, the reality is we have to try to chop down government, chop down regulators , we have the backing of the supreme court to do it. we do not have as much time as we would like, but what do you think about this? i was thinking it is right up your alley. >> i am all for it. i have sent over pages of waste that we can already cut. some of it is technical, but i am all for it.

i will support whatever we can find. there is a way to do it with a simple majority vote with no democrats. if the administration will send it back to us, they need to talk to all the republicans because they need to convince him and advance they tried it once in the previous administration for only 15 billion, but we lost to republicans and we cannot even cut 15 billion. if ramaswamy and musk come up with the cuts, they have to come over and convince, i am all in, but they have to convince some of the republicans that may not be all in yet. >> it is so powerful. it is regulatory as well. >> getting rid of a couple dozen regulations going away immediately. we are already sizing them up. they are tablets -- they are time-limited to you cannot get rid of all of them. that will happen. it happened in 2017. it will happen again this year. >> terrific stuff.

thank you, sir. we appreciate it. now we will have some fun. mark so moaned, joe concha, other progressive viewers, author of the greatest comeback ever. >> you have to give it to the producers so they will put it up there. >> some of these liberal networks do not seem to be doing very well, including broadcast networks, cable networks. my question is, i know they are liberal and i know they are not doing well, but i do not know what will pull them out of their funk exactly. >> accountability and firing. cnn has massive layoffs coming. spinning them off for pennies on the dollar. when that happens, usually there are firings behind. the advertising dollars go and

then the talent, if you want to call it that, goes next. over at msnbc averaging 500,000 viewers per day. that is on average. break that down by state. fifty states mean they are only averaging 10,000 per state. that is hard to do. morning joe they went down, during the show we saw the ratings. they dropped 40% of their audience from one hour to the next after they announced they met with trump. by the way, we just met with them. try to reset the relationship at this point. >> the amazing thing, mark, to joe's point, the amazing thing is trump was going to meet with them. trump has said he is open to having some kind of peace treaty even though they have called them filenames in this campaign and for many years earlier. rosie o'donnell, i know she is one of your favorites, rosie o'donnell gets up there on her

high horse and that she does not like the morning joe. morning joe was a bit misogynist , isn't it. but let's put that aside. rosie o'donnell says it's terrible. morning joe went to visit mr. trump. trump said yes. she does not give any credit. >> he wanted to see these to comment on their hands and knees and beg for forgiveness. joe came in like a scolded dog. ratings down 50% and plunging. rockefeller center. if they just open the window and yelled they would reach more than they do on the air. you know what it reminds me of, that's a great line, godfather two. the landlord that is fleecing the old lady. the landlord did not realize he was who he was and what he did he comes back it is talking all nervously. trump looked great in that moment. sure, come on down, love to hear

from you. >> i've got to leave it there. i cannot top that. just shout from the window. >> you would reach more than 500,000 people. >> trump tax cuts 2.0 are coming senate finance chairman to be. he has been telling us an interesting way to score the tax cuts. sorry, we were short today.

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heard my name! i swear to god, kevin! -we told you to wait in the car. everyone in my old squad has xfinity. less lag, better gaming! i'm gonna need to charge you for three people. larry: trump tax cuts 2.0 are coming. mr. mike crapo, thank you, sir. i know it is maybe a little early, but you have talked about this, you and i've talked about this, you've talked about this. these tax cuts that need to be scored may not need to be scored if you're extending popular tax cuts forever, such a thing as our current policy baseline used under president obama and it would certainly reduce the cost of the tax cuts. can you just tell us a little bit about that, sir. >> yes, larry. i think it comes down to this. under our current scoring rules,

the failure to stop tax increases from happening is being considered a deficit. this is a $4 trillion tax increase on americans. two and a half trillion of which will follow people making less than $400,000 and they are arguing that this is tantamount to not letting taxes go up which is what the liberals want, it is going to create a deficit. that is a crazy argument. barack obama when he faced the same question, when president bush's tax cuts were expiring, did the same thing i am proposing. if you are just extending current law, not raising taxes or lowering taxes, that is a $4 trillion deficit. that is ridiculous. there is a difference between a tax increase of $4 trillion of spending. we just have to get that message out to america. >> i just love that.

sort of working this through the republican caucus or the democrats and you will be head of the finance committee which is a very influential committee. >> yes. we are making this argument very aggressively. the democrats don't like it because they want to increase taxes and they want more spending. quite a bit of receptivity because let me tell you another interesting thing. under the spending protocols that we use in the scoring protocols, extending current spending does not count as a deficit. extending tax increases scores as a deficit. it is ridiculous. >> that is unbelievable. that is exactly right. all of these arguments are terrific arguments. if you talk to president trump,

i have talked to him about it briefly, but you need to talk to him about it also. >> i've definitely talk to them about it. he knows we have to be bold and strong until the american people what is really going on here in this fight. he wants to go big. i think we will be able to do that with his support. >> probably never signing onto this. >> they will never agree to it. we could try to change the baseline and we may be able to do that and force them to score differently. we are going to have to take the steps of saying to the american people that we are not going to send $4 trillion of tax hikes happen. it will not increase the deficit with those tax cuts, our revenue to the government came in at record levels just like the 50 year average.

>> 100%. the cbo in the joint tax committee don't vote on the floor of the senate. thank you. ♪ ...

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larry: so, we need linda mcmahon, education for school choice, and we need more dynamic scoring, so we can cut taxes to grow the economy. and we do not need world war iii. i don't know what joe biden thinks he's doing right now but we do need elizabeth macdonald. that's what we need. liz: that never gets old,