>> well i think inflation has done its damage, and when that exactly will show, we don't know, but what we do see that people are increasingly stressed. we're seeing higher delinquency and default rates on credit cards and i think right now it's concentrated among lower income workers but i believe as time goes on, the continued sticky inflation will mean that that will process will migrate further up into the income chain. liz: drew mattis, great to have you. >> [closing bell ringing] liz: the dow hits its 45th record of 2024. markets in the green on this monday. who knows what tuesday will bring for your money and your portfolio. we'll be here see you then. larry: hello, folks. welcome to a special edition of kudlow i'm david asman in for larry kudlow. president trump is quickly filling up his cabinet with a

wide range of nominees along with his america-first agenda ready to shake up the washington swamp. poles show americans overwhelmingly approve of his transition team and his cabinet picks span the entire political spectrum. so will the senate fall in line and confirm his team of reformers? we'll be talking about it with rich lowry, tammy bruce and mark simone, right here, plus senator tommy tuberville will join us later as well on how trump plans to shake up the pentagon and biden's foreign wars, but first fox news' bryan llenas is live in west palm beach, florida with the very latest. brian? reporter: hey, david good afternoon. well president-elect trump has chosen all of his cabinet secretaries announcing 10 picks over the weekend and what could very well be the most diverse, at least ideologically cabinet. that's what some folks are

calling it. let's take a look at the latest picks, we have the president-elect choosing a union pro-union moderate republican as labor secretary, congresswoman laurie chavez, a hedge fund billionaire and former george soros advisor scott bessent as treasury secretary, project 2025 co-author russel vote for director of the office of management and budgets and brook rollins, trump's former director of domestic policy for agriculture secretary. they join some of the more controversial picks like former fox news anchor pete hegseth as defense secretary, a former democratic congresswoman tulsi gabbard as director of national intelligence and rfk jr. as health secretary. now over the weekend, republican senators defended these picks saying they be willing to even do recess appointments essentially confirmations without hearings and they say the president-elect has a mandate to reform the system. >> i want to end the corporate

capture of government agencies and i want government agencies slimmed down. >> i think president trump deserves the ability with the mandate he got from the american people to put people in positions who are going to do reform. >> i fully expect everybody coming into the cabinet will listen to president trump, let him set the policy and execute according to that plan. reporter: now, remember, republicans hold a slim majority in the senate with 53 seats but they are expressing confidence. also reuters is reporting, david, the president-elect as soon as day one will put in, will issue an energy emergency that will allow for the new permits to export liquefied natural gas and allow for offshore drilling and drilling on federal lands. this is incredibly helpful for perhaps an end to the ukraine war to tryn russian energy. david? david: bryan llenas thank you very much. joining me now is the aforementioned mark simone, wor radio show host,

rich lowry, and tammy bruce fox news contributor and author of and we got the book there it is, "fear itself" is the name of tammy's book. tammy, 18 days to put together a team like this. that is no small feet, but what's extraordinary is you still have a back bench. you've got people like ric grenell kash patel, and so ben carson, bob lighthizer. you still have a back bench they haven't used up all their picks. >> i'm looking for byron donalds, fantastic guy. all kinds of people and things that can still happen and yet, you know, he has had four years to recognize whose had his back, whose good on the issues. the america first institute which is where brook rollins led that, pam bondi was on that board so there's a little bit of a shadow government. i think he knew exactly what he wanted and where he wanted

people because he wasn't going to repeat the 2016 mistake of believing that everyone had the same idea of coming together and helping the country, so he knows what these people are good at. they maybe have not been in the direct washington but on the perimeter but doing great work, great education, great histories, and it's very exciting. david: picking up on that, mark. the fact is the first term he did rely on a lot of washington insiders and look what he got. he got a attorney pick that led him into the whole russia-gate mess. he got an fbi director he inherited one that was a mess and then he got one that wasn't much better. these are all things that he wants to do is to really shake up the establishment in a way that it hasn't, even ronald reagan in 1980 and 1984 couldn't shake up the establishme will he succeed? >> he will succeed in starting,

dismantling the swamp, this deep state but they have spent 60 years building this thing with infrastructure to it, it's deep. hopefully you can start busting it up and create a successor, j.d. vance, somebody who can continue it. i think every single pick gets confirmed. they give you these sinister -- david: eveno charges. what was tulsi gabbard doing? when you have hearings she gets to explain it at length and i think everybody gets confirmed. david: and you start, rich, with elon and vivek showing them how and the way. we'll get into the actual specifics of how that's going to work out, but the idea, it's a pretty interesting game plan. you have the doge group to point out what needs to be cut and the guys and gals who are really interested in shaking things up to actually carry it out. again, i asked the same question. will he succeed? it is a big task. >> yeah, making government more

efficient is not easy or someone would have done it before but he has one of the most creative minds on the planet in charge of doge or co-chairing it in elon musk and including emphasis getting fast out gate, so a couple picks i don't like but this is how he campaigned. david: who don't you like and why? >> i'm not a fan of tulsi's foreign policy. david: what is it about the foreign policy you don't like? >> she is i think bend over backwards to be accommodating to enemies of the united states, but look -- david: are you talking putin? >> yeah. david: i saw the same thing, let me debate for a second here. i saw an independent piece suggesting that she was following the maga pro-putin line on syria, when she went to syria. in fact first of all she went to syria in 2015 which is before trump became president, but ask those russian mercenaries blown to bits about 300 of them whether they thought maga policy

was helpful. >> my larger point is she campaigned for trump, part of the coalition so this cabinet reflects how he ran and in 2016, protests in the streets, a russia investigation going, now actually i'm surprised about this. it's primarily despiritted rather than energized to fight them so there won't be that level of resistance out of david: let's stick with the pentagon for a second here, because they, of all of the various petrified bureaucracies they are perhaps the most, they have been at it for so long. from the eisenhower days when he coined the phrase "the industrial military complex" how difficult is it going to be for trump to separate the pentagon from their supporters in congress who rely on those pentagon contracts in their own district? >> this is the issue perhaps with every agency is that everybody has got their pet dynamic but the pentagon in particular especially with the money that gets lost.

when you've got a mandate to fix this dynamic, there are hundreds of millions of dollars they just don't know where it goes it's a remarkable thing that americans looked at and have been shocked we've allowed this to continue. this is exactly what the mandate is. is to change that, and i think that the goal of the trump s of that fact, and we see a lot of things happening now because of the mandate like the jack smith situation and the withdrawal of those charges and his projects against trump and this has to be continued, and he's got to be on a bullet train with maybe two years with holding all of congress and just you've got these choices to head these agencies are inspired and i'll add dr. ashwat for surgeon general. she's had a remarkable background and also under some weird attack because she was pro-vaccine at the beginning. all of us were. my goodness, we've all learned a great deal. david: she was on the front line during the pandemic.

she was an emergency room physician. she went to the ukraine, faced the incoming, with all of the problems there. she really walked the walk but let me just go to mark for a second. the one thing that these picks have in common is they don't rely on beltway jobs. you know, there's so many of the picks in the first administration did. these people have a life outside of government. that's a big bonus. >> yeah, that's the problem with the health picks. again she was on the front lines. not working for a pharmaceutical company. pete hegseth, literally on the front lines not working for military contractors. rfk jr. , you know, the question is resume. look at the current health secretary. he has no experience in health. he's an attorney. none. david: and by the way, you have

marty makary running the fda, marty makary's written a book about the fda and the mistakes that its made. dr. oz, cms, the people that monitor the waste and fraud at medicare and elsewhere. david welden atcdc. this is a well thought out plan here. >> also ideologically diverse which goes to an aspect of trump's campaign the media totally missed which they tend to portray trump as an extremist because he will say things in insulting terms, but he won the center, right? he won among moderates gained ground among moderates over what he did in 2020 and had former democrats and these ideologically interesting people like elon musk who used to be a centerist, but pushed right by the left. so, it's a different kind of cabinet we've seen. david: i want to go back to mark because we were talking in the green room. the media breakdown. how do they recover from this if they do? >> it'll take years and for all of you at thanksgiving don't rub

it in. >> [laughter] such a gracious guy. >> they are starting to realize that these networks, there was no 2025 project with trump. there was no abortion ban. they were just lied to by these people. david: did they ever get over it? >> i think when entities are sold, and, you know, like msnbc, anything is possible. i'm excited each day there's going to be something new. david: okay, gang, thank you very much great to have you here. coming up, what are republicans going to prioritize next year's tax cuts and spending package? we'll be asking new york congresswoman nicole malliotakis and art laffer, the great art, when kudlow continues. confident. measured. ready. the markets, like life, will turn and challenge us. but when emotions run high, we stay grounded. with the hcm buyline,

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have the person who puts those plans to good use. let me go to you, first, art. what do you think we need to do first and that nicole malliotakis and the other republicans on your side could actually get through congress? >> well, i don't know if they can get it through congress. she would know much better than i do but let me just say putting in the whole tax bill making it permanent be the perfect thing. if you can't make it permanent at least extend it for another 10 years. that be a great thing to do. there are lots of other tax issues i'd love to see done dropping that rate to 15% which i don't think should be very difficult for them to do, and there are a couple of others that maybe getting rid of the salt deduction, limitation, that might bring a few other people on board as well, new yorkers and californians especially. there are a few others but getting that bill through is the first thing they should do. david: and no tax for overtime. you've described that a lot of people are talking about how

much these tax cuts will cost as though the last 2017 tax plan actually cost money when it actually increased revenues by 48%. it's crazy. crazy talk, but that's "the talk" of the town. that's the establishment talk, art. do you think there are some republicans that buy into that? >> well, no, i don't think anyone buys into it but the question sku change the rules for the purposes of this bill going in making it by senate has to do it i forget by resolution or whatever, at the end. that's whether it's a 10-year plan. you can always pass it, but then you have to have it as a 10-year thing if it goes overboard and you don't have enough room in the budget and i would love to see them do that. there shouldn't be any tax on tips. it costs more to collect the darn money than the money you get and no tax on overtime. what a great thing and no tax on

american workers abroad that pays local taxes and need to compete. i mean, that's all really good stuff. should be done. david: congresswoman, you don't believe that tax cuts need to be paid for , as though they were an expense rather than increasing the revenue that comes in do you? >> well i think we've got to look at what could be a pro-growth pro-jobs policy, right? president trump did such an amazing job putting in place a tax code that actually grew our economy, that created 7 million new jobs that lifted people out of poverty, lifted wages for the middle class and lowered unemployment for african americans,women and so we want to take those provisions and yes, we should make them permanent. if not at least 10 years because what i've heard from the various stakeholders is look, we want to invest and expand and grow jobs but the only way we can do it is we have certainty in the tax code so we know what we're dealing with. if we want manufactures to come back home, like i desperately want them to do

particularly, when it comes to the pharmaceutical and medical device, we need to make sure there's a tax structure in place that gives them certainty so they can invest. so the 15% that was talked about maybe we can't do it for everyone, maybe we can do it for the manufactures to start a facility. i think that's a national security issue. that is certainly an issue that people care about when it comes to -- david: congresswoman let me just ask you. it gets under the skin of art laffer and larry and me when we hear that the tax cuts of 2017 cost $2 trillion or whatever. it didn't cost a penny. we increased revenues by 48% in the first five years, and it wasn't inflation by the way. that was way more than inflation, so are there still republicans in the house who believe that you have to pay for these tax cuts as if there was a cost there? >> well look. i think the data speaks for itself and the only reason

those revenues aren't higher is because covid hit and so we unfortunately had to do it. who knows how successful the trump tax agenda would have been in bringing revenue and creating jobs and really stimulating our economy if it were not for covid right in the middle of it. what i would say is we have those success stories, we're compiling those success stories. we need people from the various industries to come forward and say what they've been able to do as a result whether it's buying equipment for the first time, whether it's hiring new workers, whether it's opening a manufacturing equipment so we can then go fight for an extension of these codes and as you mentioned, the personal tax code is obviously really critical as well. families benefited significantly under president trump. he doubled the standard deduction. he doubled the child tax credit. sure. new yorkers we want to see some type of salt relief but we also have to show the american people the new yorkers remind them that it's our governor and mayor taxing them to death and that's why we need salt relief so i hope president trump does deliver on that, and seniors who

are struggling on social security, to give them more tax relief as the president said he wants to do is critical. david: let me bring art back in because art, one of the goals i know of president-elect trump is to actually balance the budget. we did it under democrat once in my lifetime, under bill clinton, but it took a lot of work. he didn't have the advantage president trump had which is a tax code that's pro-growth. so he comes in with thank god with that pro-growth tax cut and if by the way we kept spending at 2019 levels right before the pandemic we would have had more than a balanced budget but a surplus budget of about $500 billion above the baseline, so i mean, we know what works, we know what can balance the budget. could a balanced budget be done in four years? >> yeah, and the first place it was done twice in my lifetime. john f. kennedy and bill clinton

did it, and listening to nicole, it's just music to my ears. you know, when you realize what competent people we have in the republican party and on the ways and means committee, nicole, forgive me, but your conversation was just terrific on that. what we need to do is get as much into that bill as we can and make sure that it passes and make sure we go. if we can do it on all of the items great but we have to succeed on getting this bill passed, getting it into place. i would look to the vivek ramaswamy and the elon musk committee to really bring down the spending. i think they can do that and i think they can do it beautifully, but we need to get this bill passed right away. david: congresswoman, how do you take the doge boys notes and suggestions about how to cut from the budget? how do you implement that into policy? >> look i think you need to go line-by-line and see where money is being spent.

i think there's a lot of money being spent on programs and things that people never even heard of. they don't even know it exists and they haven't been authorized for many many years and so going line by line and figuring out where the exact waste is. why the pentagon can't do a full accounting of it. how do they lose all these billions of dollars. it's not accounted for , how do we, all these international organizations that we are members of that don't reap benefits. money that we're sending to countries that hiatus. i think it's a matter of going line-by-line and it will take a lot of work and i'm glad we have dedicated people within the administration who want to do that and work with congress, because many of us have been highlighting some of this wasteful spending, and believe me it's going to come from places you never even heard before. david: oh, yeah, oh, no there's all kinds of ways to spend your money as long as it's not their money. art laffer wonderful to see you my friend thank you so much. congresswoman nicole malliotakis thank you as well, absolutely. well, coming up, donald trump is

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david: well donald trump is reportedly looking to wall street to shake up the military industrial complex, should be interesting how that works out. joining me now is alabama senator tommy tuberville. senator, great to see you. thanks so much for being here. before we talk about whether wall street can work with the new administration to cut corners in pentagon, talk for a moment about how the pentagon has become so stuck in their ways. the old revolving door between the generals who work at the pentagon and then they go to work for the military contractors. i mean, we've been hearing that for decades going way back to eisenhower. is it true and is it time or is it possible to break that up?

>> well, you're exactly right, david. the american people want it to happen. we saw that a couple of weeks ago when president trump was elected. it was a mandate to change business as usual. we're losing money right and left, david. there's so much fraud. there's so much theft. you know, the fence agency, if you include the intelligence, is a trillion dollar business, and it is out of control. we're spending, you know, when you hear $500 for a hammer a lot of that is not true but even if it's 20% true, the american people are sick and tired of it and they want accountability and we don't have any right now. nobody pays the price for making a mistake or losing money or money going out the door that's going places it shouldn't go. david: the problem is not only is it just the money wasteful which is bad enough but we're stuck with these outdated weapon systems because not only are they protected by their friends in the military industrial complex, and there is

this revolving door that i talked about but you also have a lot of members of congress who get to rely on these contractor projects in their own districts, and they are very ready to bring in new blood and that's why this "wall street journal" piece was interesting because they are talking about bringing in new people on the cutting-edge of weapons technology who need to be given a chance in pentagon rather than relying on these old systems that are stuck with old politicians. >> well you're exactly right. we need a coo. we need to shake it up and we need people in there that actually know a budget and now how to be accountable for it and the american people deserve that, david. the problem we have coming up is space is a new frontier, and there is going to be trillions of dollars spent in the next 10, 15, 20 years on space because it's probably where the next war happens, and we have to have somebody in there that's accountable for that. it's going to get more and more expensive to fight these wars and defend our country, to train

our people hopefully we get nor people in the military that will protect this country, but again, go back to the american taxpayer. 30% of the money that comes into this federal government, 30% out of a dollar that the taxpayers send to washington d.c. is stolen or missing, and it's wrong and the people are sick of it and donald trump is going to try to do it. he's got good people that are interested in doing it but we've got to give them the reigns to get it done. david: by the way, again it's more than just money. you look at what the problems that trump is going to face as soon as he gets into office with the biden administration ratcheting up the war in ukraine, with these new weapons he's giving to the ukrainians to shoot missiles deep inside of russia and then for god sakes land mines. i thought the u.n. lectured us about the awful danger to civilians of land mines. how does he deal with a new ratcheting up of the war in ukraine that's been going on

over the past couple of months? >> yeah, very disappointing in what the biden administration is doing. i know behind the scenes, president trump does have some of his people talking to people in the biden administration but you know, right now, i'll just tell you this. russia is losing a thousand people a day. a thousand people a day are dying in this war that should never have been fought and all we had to do was promise vladimir putin we would not make ukraine nato but that's water underneath the bridge now. president trump has to get it over with and one of the first things he has to do with set down with president putin, get it done, get a boundary that both ukraine and russia can live with, and get on with life but we have destroyed the young people of russia, the young people of ukraine, and its been devastating to our pocket book. we have spent $211 billion and only the world, if nato has only spent about 52 billion so look what the american taxpayer, david, has had to pay

for this war as compared to everybody else all over the world, $52 billion. it's wrong but we have to get out of this and the only one that can do it is donald trump. david: by the way one person, one of the brainiacs who hasn't been mentioned is ric grenell the former ambassador to germany. he could be a roving ambassador for peace in places like ukraine and places like the middle east. he's had a lot of experience in doing that, going back to his days at the u.n. do you think that's a position that could have some effect for the trump administration? >> you know, matt whitaker, obviously, is nato. he is going to do a great job. he's never been an ambassador before but he understands the problem. first of all you have to know the problem and ric grenell, matt whitaker, these guys have been with president trump. they know how he deals and works out things behind the scenes, and they will all work together. ric grenell be perfect to go to

work with president trump, but side by side but i'll tell you. to get this done, to get it out of the way, david, donald j. trump is the only one that puts the signature on the line between ukraine and russia to make this thing work and get us out of this devastating loss of life and loss of money for both ukraine, united states, and for russia. david: then we have the intel agencies and we've got tulsi gabbard pick to be the new dna, director of national intel. she of course has been attacked as being pro-putin and because of a trip she took to syria back in 2015. in fact, the independent newspaper just considered her to be a moscow-friendly maga warrior, whatever the hell that means, because after all president trump who blew up about 250 russian mercenaries in syria. it doesn't sound like he was very pro-putin then, does it?

>> no, no. you know, tulsi gabbard is in this position for intel. she's 20 years in. she understands it, but david, you go back to one thing. the democrats are going to do everything they possibly can to stop anybody. i don't care who president trump puts up. they are going to try to throw up a roadblock november 5. it really was war in winning the war is going to be trying to knock down all these democrats in the next four or five months to get these wars under control and get people in place that can actually negotiate. we have no diplomacy in this country right now. joe biden is at the beach, kamala harris is in hawaii. whose running the ship and people are dying every day and american taxpayers money is going out the door. we've got to end this stuff but we've got to get people in place that we all can trust. the american taxpayers, citizens of this country and tulsi gabbard is one of those who can get the job done.

david: senator tommy tuberville wonderful to see you have a happy thanksgiving. appreciate you coming in. >> thanks, david, you too. david: kamala harris is reportedly telling her advisors and allies to keep her political options open after november's landslide defeat to president trump. joining me to talk about that is mark penn, democrat pollster and ceo of stag wel, and julian epstein, former house judiciary counsel, gentlemen, wonderful to see you. i was shocked i have to admit. i know that a lot of your fellow democrats have been kind of little punch crazy right now in terms of what happened with the election, but 41% believe kamala harris should be running in four years and as close as you get in the next one is 8% for newsom and 7% for governor shapiro and it goes on. mark? kamala lost her post dnc convention bump she had.

she had a nice lead after the convention. a lot of people thought she would continue to gain on trump. just the opposite happened. turned out to be just like 2020 where the more people heard from her and saw from her, the less she liked her. what makes them think it's going to be any different in 2028? >> well, you know, democrats as a party love vice presidents, whether it's walter mondale, hubert humphrey or biden who did win. they had a tendency to nominate vice presidents because they typically own the political machinery. now, i don't think you should take much of this very seriously, because obviously, no one else is running right now, and the chance they will give somebody a second nomination or a second chance after losing is pretty unusual and happens very rarely on either side. but that doesn't mean that she couldn't have a good political career out in california where

she probably has pretty good potential. david: yeah, although once again, i mean, she had such a high profile position over the past few months that it's hard to see even people in california changing their views. julian, you wrote a great piece in the new york post where you say the problem with democrats right now is they are double ling down on what didn't work. even on immigration and i'll just quote from your piece. you say democrats pontificated on the virtues of democracy but seemed to be defying the clearly express will of the voters in favor of the virtuous elites, one possible explanation is that they cynically believe in aggravated migrant crisis will complicate the incoming administration's clean-up efforts. of course there's no low bar in politics, but boy, that's a pretty low bar isn't it? >> yeah, and my point, david, thanks for having me on. my point is that democrats in their self-examination are asking questions of whether we

got the policy wrong or had the wrong candidate and may point was that it's a deeper cultural problem, and the problem of virtue signaling has sort of become a religion with democrats, and it's a very clever way in which the elites mask self-enriching policies, immigration is a good example that you just cited because what immigration does is it gives the elites a lot of very low-cost almost servant-like services for things like postmates and nanny services and cleaning people's houses, while exerting a lot of very unfortunate impact on the working class, particularly the downward pressure on wages and job loss, and what virtue signaling has become for the left is a very authoritarian way of telling people that object to them that they are morally inferior and they are bigots and this is a way of shutting down the conversation. the second thing that virtue signaling does for leftist elites is it advances their

social status. it's a way of distinguishing themselves amongst their fellow peers by saying, i'm morally superior. i have a position on immigration that is sort of morally superior to the masses and again this is sort of become a religion for the left and what it is doing is it is making the left a lot dumber, rather than smarter, because it's not listening to people and being caught up in their own echo chamber. david: you used the keyword which is listening. mark i don't get a sense there's a lot of listening going on to what the american people said they wanted whether it was on the economy or immigration or a whole host of things. >> well, i think it's a little too early to declare but the truth of the matter is until there's mid-terms and right after that, there will be a presidential primary, right now the democrat party doesn't have a leader. the old leadership has been effectively defeated and what kind of new leadership will

emerge? will it continue to go to the left or come back to the center with people like governor shapiro? that's an open book, you know? every party goes through these things until it finds new leadership. a number of years ago flow one would have expected donald trump to emerge as the leader of the republican party. so give it time. david: julian, what do you think? mark is more optimistic than you are, julian. it seems, i'm just wondering, from a democratic perspective, that is, do you think that perhaps a governor shapiro from pennsylvania will take the lead in the upcoming years? >> i would love to see josh shapiro become the next nominee for the democrats but i'm going to slightly disagree with mark and i would point out that both he and i have been writing since i think 2021 the democrats have not been listening, that the handwriting has been on the wall on issues like immigration and crime and expanding the welfare state. on down the line, and we've seen a drift particular of working

class voters this started in 202021 and you can see it in the polling, and mark knows this better than anyone and the democrats have seeded the policymaking apparatus to the intersectional elite, the interest groups deeply out of touch with voters and practice what i was talking about which is this moralizing, you can see this starting with the covid policies and on down on policies all across the political front, on whether it's immigration or crime or you have gone on down the line so i would like to believe that the democrats are going to start listening but i have not seen a lot of evidence they have been listening to very good polling of the likes that mark has done. david: it's also, i also talk to union leaders who were endorsing openly endorsing biden and admitting that their members were going to vote for trump. i mean, they are so stuck in their ways that they couldn't pull away from what their membership wants. i just wonder when the members

are going to be turning on them as well but it's a whole other discussion. mark, julian great to see you both. i wish we had more time. have a wonderful thanksgiving to both of you. >> thanks david. david: coming up donald trump's team is preparing for a major border crackdown and texas is offering a massive plot of land to aid their mass deportation operation. texas land commissioner dawn buckingham is weighing in on that coming up next. after careful review of medical guidance and research on pain relief, my recommendation is simple: every home should have salonpas. powerful yet non-addictive. targeted and long-lasting. i recommend salonpas. it's good medicine. ♪ hisamitsu ♪

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>> [speaking in spanish] david: the face of open borders. a terrified two-year-old child crossing the border without an escort hoping to connect somehow with her parents in the united states. the current policies in the need to change those policies are immediately crystallized by that sound bite. joining me is dawn buckingham texas land commissioner. you know, commissioner first of all thank you for being here. it's hard to find a stronger message to biden or mayorkas or aoc than what you just heard then, no? >> i think you make a perfect point, you know, the small child

coming across the border and yet we know that hundreds of thousands of similar children have been lost by the biden administration once coming across the border, most likely enslaved by the cartels doing unspeakable things, suffering unspeakable hardships so we all want to get back to the basics of the rule of law and we want people to immigr the violent crs off our streets harming our sons and daughters. david: you've got a place for them in texas in stark county. tell us about that track of land and how you plan to help, if trump agrees that that's the best place to put some of these criminals they are planning to deport. >> well texas has been standing in the gaps since the federal government has been advocating its constitutional duty to protect our border so this is no new space for us to be. we are so excited to having a willing and able partner in president trump when he gets confirmed at the end of january or sworn in and so, what we think is, this is a 1,400 acres.

it's by a good highway and a international airport and by a international crossing bridge over the river so if it's a good spot and fits with what the trump administration needs then we want to be a good and willing partner and be helpful. david: by the way you talk of the great work that the texas governor and you have done and trying to secure the border on your own without help. in fact, with a lot of the reverse of help, with a lot of efforts to harm the work that you were doing by the biden administration. when you heard president biden taking credit and kamala harris taking credit for the slowdown in migration, what did you think of that? did you call them up say hey wait a minute yot laughable hypocrisy. so that's fine. they lived in this lala land of what withs happening at the border never having been visited it or having talked to the people who live there. the resounding evidence for that is how this vote happened. stark county where this ranch is voted overwhelmingly for the first time in 150 years

for a republican never having happened before and the moral of the story is simple. these communities are lovely. these people are lovely but they felt like the democrat party left them and their policies were hurting their communities d hurting the safety and the prosperity for their children. david: by the way, there's an island between texas and mexico. i think it's called fronton island. the cartel had essentially take it over using it as a staging ground for their battle and using all kinds of weaponry. you went in there and took it over from them. in the past three-years this cartel many branches of the cartels, the human trafficking and drug trafficking have taken hold in places alln e like tom homan about how you fought with them and succeeded at least in that one case. >> well we received that ask and i am texas' first women commissioner so it took a woman to do it right i tease but that being said there were three islands in the rio grande we declared them texas for a number

of reasons through operation flat top with the help of the department of public safety and texas military department we got them cleared and the wire up and took away the weapons, drugs, traffic children have complete operational control of that section of the border. i have no doubt that tom homan is going to stand up and do it right and be strong and be an amazing border czar. very very significant contrast to our previous border czar and kamala harris so we are again so excited to have a good partner in the white house who cares about the safety and prosperity of our communities and we are here to work side by side with them. david: well, we certainly wish you the bestat island, people could write a book on that, and you should be the one to write it. thank you so much for being here. really appreciate it. best of luck to you working with tom homan. more kudlow right after this.

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