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>> hello folks and welcome to a special kudlow i'm david and larry kudlow president trump is not enough festivities already cracking down on the biden harris border crisis, he is threatening, slim mexico and canada with tears company effort in his border's hard, mattel sanctuary city mayors, they are about to face criminal charges much more i know that with charlie and john kerry and others in just a moment, but first, our very own hilary vaughn is live in the white house very latest a hilary see a kind even will canada and mexico thing president-elect trumps terrorist the plant seriously printed canadian prime minister just entered, spoke to trump on the homeless night. >> he talked to some of the challenges that we can work on together. it was a good call this a relationship of the me know takes a certain amount of work and that's what we will do. hillary: mexican present claudius threatening to report.

>> one another and so until we been a common businesses that risk. [speaking in native tongue] >> it is not acceptable and would cause the us-mexico inflation and job losses. hillary: , they went city slapping canada mexico the 25 percent tariff on all products in the tariff will stay in the bronx and the criminals coming across the borders top and mexico and connect and the excellent writing power to easily solve this long simmering problem we by dependency uses power and until such time that they do, hit is time for them to pay a very big price and some canadians, are agreeing with trump alberta premier daniel smith saying that the incoming u.s. trump administration has valid concerns related to illegal activities that are shared border ♪ ♪ in the federal government to work in the incoming administration of the resolve these issues immediately and avoiding any necessary tariffs,

but the democrats one of these terrorists will ultimately hurt americans are high prices. >> if you don't understand why your food is more expensive, this the bread-and-butter literally of what will raise their prices. tickets rated tariffs those making some republicans skittish as well senator chuck grassley said that he is concerned about the tariffs many things that right now the trump is just using it as a negotiating tool going to get canada and mexico the back of the border david. david: hilary vaughn thank you very much joining me now is probably her opinion fox news contributor and john carney economics and finance editor and co-author business digest and author second-class everybody is running up storm is a lot to write about charlie first of all the markets are not freaking out about this topic tariffs no respectability but they were all of the embassies up business folks have tina.

charlie: good determines from they saw him threaten tariffs former chrysler ceo said about it earlier today roll the tape. >> with you this once before, the president and it is a negotiating tool, and it is not a policy is an initiative come of them get their attention and hopefully stop this invasion that we've incurred over the last four years that is just been devastating to our society sue and even if it does cause some inconvenience for the folks, the goal is worth it. charlie: not only a people lived through before, but the entire campaign donald trump is talking about all these things, and the reason that i think that he won the election, is because he was talking about common sense solutions very real problem that affect people in the personal lives. people said you know what, i get all the hysteria about the guy and i hear all of the extreme names, but they call him back, what is talking about makes a lot of sense i think tariffs

were apart into an integral part of that is in excess drugs and human smuggling coming across the border. and if you can use the terrace, to stop that, have at it. david: we are talking why is anybody surprised legal immediacy only gosh, sharp but will he talked about any did it. charlie: why do things only the. david: and also professors ♪ ♪ and they did some of those professors by the wake you still are screaming about this will cause inflation will it did not the last time. and we did not end up with inflation and worries turning into some kind of a trade war again and well who knows and there was trade war that you know this is a far away away from it. >> people not wage a trade war united states a look about understand mexico come you cannot go for your domestic consumption, you do not want to seem like you were just caving into a trump demand so going to stand have a bit and 83 percent

of mexico's exports come into the united states and very few exports golf much smaller percentage goes into mexico and they are dependent upon the u.s. market for their economy and about one quarter of the entire gdp is exports to the u.s., and so if we have a trade war, mexico loses on day one, they know this and are not going to trade war and this is trumps opening gambit. david: we use price canada was thrown in there. charlie: now because we have a tri- party agreement anything human mexico, we need canada to come along c1 by the way they were 19000 folks trying to come in from the north of the border, that was like double what it was the previous term. charlie: week we shut off to the ship and seven more than do nothing to the northern border everybody will fly to canada then moving in. david: we still have to deal with sanctuary cities and

states, batya ungar-sargon in denver mayor was suggesting he was willing to go to go for it for which tom homan said the following roll the tape. >> we agree on one thing, he's willing to go to jail and willing to put them in jail because, there is a statute title in the united states comforting 24, and what it says is that it's a felony if you knowingly harbor a concealed illegal alien from immigration authorities and president trump is mandate 20 million people may need to secure this country and we need to save american lives. david: batya ungar-sargon is so hard to misunderstand tom. batya: donald trump one of three things have a socially moderate antiwar and he wanted to create any an economy that deliver for the working class he's doing that with terrace and he's doing that by controlling the border and the two most important things when you think about working-class americans and just go back to tariffs per minute, it's so amazing to me that the same people, who are out there saying, i do not care if gas

prices double what it is to support the war in ukraine. suddenly, vegetables cost a bit more about your neighbor is making a living wage suddenly they are unwilling to make that sacrifice but by the way, they will not be making a sacrifice. david: you think happened so please mayors and governors who say that i will go to jail and i'm going to die for this i think that's what the new jersey governor said i'm willing to die for this cause of keeping these criminals in the state of new jersey only think will happen and soon after and how soon be for the rollover. batya: soon opposing donald trump in the opposing will of the american people who like donald trump in order to do exactly this another putting up opposition to the exacting their own bunkers flipped on them and chose trump for. david: and charlie, there's this 10 percent tariff against china. and of course, china is where the fentanyl crisis begins and there is no question about

fitness trump was saying come there always claiming that they'll arrest the people and even execute people fentanyl trade never follow through with any of it and when you think about how does china now deal with donald trump and we know how donald trump will deal with them howdy think he will do with trump. charlie: and i think the previous term is a pretty good indicator about how the operate with him and i think that they recognize, that this is in negotiation tactic and a tool in the toolkit of negotiations and i think that they will try to work with him try to figure things out because there is so much money at stake here, for especially china, from both countries. david: they did end up buying a lot of our produce pretty. >> i'm a little bit more rain than charlie is and i think that the way that the chinese regime looks at it is that we need to do with donald trump for years and then we think we can roll over their breakup went to get rid of donald trump. as of this is a big problem the

donald trump show them that not only the means business, but that america means business and that this does not and in 2029, this is going on forever and the china can not try to outweigh donald trump's term of office. this will last. all they have to do is look and joe biden did not drop the terrace, the republican party is not 100 percent on board when training changing a trade relationship in china. and china if they think that they can outlast us on this, they are wrong and this will get much worse than before he gets better. david: batya ungar-sargon five there's an interesting pullout right now that americans are very optimistic about the future when trump takes over but they are even more worried than they were present, the next two months worried about that nurses feeling of this morning america but not quite yet could happen in the next two months and you think of them are ratcheting up in ukraine and you think of a lot of possible things these attempts to spend every dime

they possibly can for trump comes into office. when you think will happen with next two months. batya: i respect how they're consumed by they feel that way, none of us knows better president is doing right now printed but it will just take to my fellow americans, the rest of the world leadership is already acting like donald trump is in office and they are already running scared. so i really do not think that we have much to fear in terms of foreign policy and everybody knows that there's a new regime on and it does not seem to me to be like people are trying to get the last week's it seems to be the opposite the people are preparing for what is going to be much more peaceful for years, peace through strength. david: and a lot of investors up try to figure out how to play the trump trade and charlie, we are friends so i kinda forget that i'm a little bit older than you like an older brother. but i do remember the morning in america when reagan took over and it was more so in 1984,

because they had a feeling what they would get because of the first four years now americans have a feeling president trump's first four years. so you probably don't remember you get a sense that despite all of the grass being pearls everything by msnbc, that it is different from most americans, that you have a sense of optimism. charlie: is kind of funny because the first two years of joe biden's presidency, every time that we try to call them, attacking joe biden, my father becoming of it safe, you do not know how bad it was with jimmy carter. [laughter] and then after two years, he was like will nevermind is much worse pretty think the answer to it all is that if trump succeeds and he wants to do was look out the middle class, the economy bring prosperity for everybody. david: bring security. charlie: bring peace to the world actually accomplishes those think about four years,

you be looking at another years of jd vance anything to go back to john's point great point china, i think that is the game and donald trump did not succeed on election day in his mind, he succeed is when he gets done, all of the things he promised the voters he would get done. and if he does, then that set something like jd vance somebody else, i for eight years to continue this policy. david: quickly, what happens over the next couple of months and charlie, peace out saying that janet yellen was trying to screw up thanks for when trump comes into office missing knowing that she was rolling over some of the debt that we have this huge $1.000000000000 deficit now adding to the overall debt and is now possible. charlie: the crown of the treasuries into the very short-term done a lot of that has to be turnover and i will be difficult for donald trump to deal with but as you said, the optimism of america is going to

make that a much easier task because you know that serving the consumer sentiment confidence through the roof and people are feeling good about america again will make it easier for the u.s. government. david: batya ungar-sargon i know you want and we thought of her time wonderful panel and appreciated coming up president trump vowed to cut energy prices by 50 percent his first year backing up getting details about how he plans to do it in montana senator elect tim will be talking about that coming up next. uction in the u.s. gulf of mexico. our latest deepwater development, anchor, produces previously inaccessible oil and natural gas, allowing us to deliver the energy we all need today so everyone can follow their own road.

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why would i ever leave this? -aw! we will do anything to get him gaming again. you and kevin need to fix this internet situation. heard my name! i swear to god, kevin! -we told you to wait in the car. everyone in my old squad has xfinity. less lag, better gaming! i'm gonna need to charge you for three people. trump: so i will terminate thegd your energy prices and have within 12 months when your energy prices will be in exactly half. 50 percent. summa 50 percent, 50. bring back millions of jobs to give our companies the lowest taxes and the lowest regulatory burdens and free access to the best of the biggest market on the planet c1 those donald trump in october the campaign trail you saw the garbage truck that best that he had on remember that all instant income he was making claims that he still does

about his move to make america energy independent again and much cheaper fuel for us all the talk about this a lot more the spring in tim sheehy montana's brand-new senator elect, and senator elect is going to see you and congratulations on your went what is one handy and thank you so going to do you to follow through on that. tim: yes montana likes president trump by a wide margin tremendous confidence in his ability to unleash american energy it is you energy security is national security pretty fundamental to strong growing economy and what president trump is advocating for it is he is showing about this energy secretary nominate chris right to an upper sleep taken above approach unleash and support our fossil fuel industries critical to safe, reliable and cheap energy prices for all americans. david: what about montana, there's big allstate and coal is on the way down and has been

front couple decades now and are you thinking of doing more exploration for safe natural gas in montana? tim: he barnacle is critical we multiple coal deposits in our state absolutely need help certainty that they will be allowed to thrive not just survive and thrive pretty for the community strip in southeastern montana, that every year and wondering what we be open next year long this hotel survived the coal strip to them if we mine next 3000 years of coal left. david: hold on hold on there are 3000 years of coal left for what the united states consumption or what. tim: read for what they need for their demand, they could push out of that plane come they have 3000 years left and just what they currently have platted for lining, does not count into new deposit we have plenty of coal if we had to make sure were supporting the industry not try to put it out of business of innate. david: this such a beautiful state of unity but to montana book fair there right away and

is just an extraordinarily beautiful state read but rather that would probably live there. in our people concerned about the effect of extra mining and so forth. what are they convincing to be done in a more clean fashion that it was in years past. tim: people concerned about it in montana has a long checkered history with extractive industries times over century ago we some terrible things happen in rivers employing the tops of mountains nobody wants to come back we also understand we know how extract energy and resources from the ground in american montana specifically better clean and safer than anywhere else in the world need that resources winners lithium, silver, coal, whether it is temporary and we can get this resources here in america and in montana and do it safely, cheaper and cleaner than anywhere else in the world, so forget that evening were which we are get them here from montana jobs in the state of montana and grow our economy as

a result siemens long way from the board but you guys past no sanctuary cities law it is obvious that you supported the presidents order policies and why is it innocent that the border is actually cause hardship in montana the border crisis. tim: will first call is important to remember that every state is now a border state whether his new york city or seattle or part the seven words and packing and less on printed the montanez him what method northern border border security is critical to montana as is for the rest we feel it here in montana fantastic governor and state attorney general focusing on law and order and addressing the crime issue in the streets but we are feeling it here no question from drugs to buy the crime the streets in the cartels the criminal element they come with that are impacting tenants not that long drive you up to montana to see 15th feeling the impact here montana voiced very clearly ballot box to

secure border and that emanate from that safer streets the cartels under control. david: your businessman very successful businessman, but in my by the best thing that you got your life so far is as a navy seal, you were decorated for your work in iraq and afghanistan and many other places and when you look at the way that donald trump is trying to change the pentagon's way which is sort of ossified of the years, and fallen far behind say china, what you think of that particular the pick of pete hegseth like yourself on the ground as a soldier and was not just going above all of the action. tim: yes and the pentagon needs reformation. partly reality is you can't expect people who have been part of the system for 20 or 30 or 40 years to all of a sudden become change agents at the last minute because they feel like it. we need real change ages across

the board specifically and as you pointed out we have incredibly brave strong men and women wearing the uniform willing to their on the line for this country and unfortunately, the bureaucracy of our defense department is gotten to the point those men and women are not being served by the department that they exist under as well as it could be in the deity needs reformation it has been fundamentally changed about 40 — 50 years, from defense to shipbuilding we need to change it i think that pete hegseth will deliver that printed. david: and tulsi gabbard director national intel, the usual democratic defamer's have really been hard in her suggestion she is out russian asset we make of all of that quickly. tim: we know, this graceful the theater once again they serve her country come back and another for years he was a congresswoman in hawaii when a station there she's brave american incredibly eloquent is great life experiences she's exactly what we need a seat to help reform the intelligence community should do a great job of the things offense of the way to try to paint her as a foreign

asset, that's just ridiculous and she's a smart woman it she's doing and doing a heckuva job. david: the current lt. commander she still in the reserves so she still serving our military is going to see you tim sheehy best of luck. tim: thank you. david: coming up on the 2017 tram trump tax cuts create more tax revenue so why do all the so-called experts keep saying that they cost trillions of dollars rather than making trillions of dollars will asked steve moran michael went kudlow continues. awkward question... is there going to be anything left... —left over? —yeah. oh, absolutely. (inner monologue) my kids don't know what they want. you know who knows what she wants? me! i want a massage, in amalfi, from someone named giancarlo. and i didn't live in that shoebox for years. not just— with empower, we get all of our financial questions answered. so you don't have to worry. i guess i'll get the caviar... just kidding. join 18 million americans and take control of your financial future with a real time dashboard and real live conversations.

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thanks to a fire authorities used to say to commercial jointing and attorneys downtime about it and emily comes by the way i don't number been it is a great book congratulations on what gave you the idea of doing it. emily: a few reasons we talked about the proud members of our family have served and how proud we are of them i come from a strong military family nine generations world war i into an countries land resistance and more my mother historian so i have all of those photographs and stories and rivers and as an nfl cheerleader had the honor of visiting the troops in iraq and u.s. tumor and really incredible experiences there during afterwards which we talk about here. and then the true and a simple amazing stories and the sentiment and deeply connected stories that soldiers and had the frontlines predict the honor of serving as it passenger for the war fighters within voices within their experiences with and faith in battle.

david: and you know sometimes, people talk openly about it many times do not a lot of people private about it. so you kind of have to pry the information out of them and sometimes have to do it in secret and he took about one guy named charlie plumb, it was a vietnam-era pilot and i think he was one of the top gun pilots to me was the best of the best and shot down over hawaii and went through some hard years of captivity and learned is secret, to secretly connect with the people living in the selves and details next him how to communicate and pray secret and it's extraordinary come the links to which and he had a kind of talked into it and again by boris code right. emily: yes and his attempt that when he called them the month of the mission which was keep the faith baby and is exactly that david that there is no way that you can go through years of brutal torture solitary consignment and confinement of the helping endured without

faith and stories of christmas and of celebrating in captivity, the communion looks like in captivity in a country where religion was being persecuted and about being secret not so open, the honor of some operators telling me i never shared the story before but i trust you emily come to carry it accurately and adequately here now will carry that honor. david: i have to tell you emily, my son was in two wars my wife was praying all of the and she actually has devotion to our lady and she claims that she gives our lady credit for is coming back without physical injuries but i still cannot talk to him about any still holding the stuff of my own son, so it is terribly hard, but the role for prayer plays with families is also extraordinarily important this type charlie plumb from his family are directly involved in prayer with him to see six and the wife of the criminal also a vietnam prisoner of war have lobbied the american government to keep these men front and center so

that they could be returned home the frontlines in prayers, the frontline can be home because spouses catastrophically wounded spouses and mothers deal with the grief of the ultimate sacrifice spouses with pts there hasn't weatherwise etc. all in here in addiction that's right to pray. david: nothing cures addiction as well as long as is a natural process coming of is a part of that recovery process, you have much more chances of success and it is not by the way, cardinal dolan who i know you know, and love as i do, he was with larry last week talking about thanksgiving and i just want play little soundbite as a final note and get your response role. >> our founders put freedom of religion, the first the first of the ten amendments to the bill of rights and what makes this nation great is that vitality religion freedom of religion and that religion is a tourist place in the public square and

unfortunately, this movement that would want to deter that were diminished out we cannot let that happen is freedom, the deserves strong defense and constant vigilance. david: is fellow and faith in a downward trend renaissance which is a part c6 i believe there's an absolute renaissance and is totally correct that indeed the separation of church and state, it was written in the letter outside the president's office, to ensure the government did not encroach upon those freedoms, to worship see a part of the constitution yes my wife is always pointing to pointing. emily: i do believe that faith that people are now feeling free worship together to worship outrightly proclaim their faith in jesus, with us in books like this, they feel that encouragement to do so together in the public square, with the knowledge and they were never alone because is always with them. david: so you do have to pray people oppressed, the nigerian wealth 60000 nigerian christians

have been marketed over the past 20 years, 60000 of them in the church being wealth a lot of problems but again, this book is one of the hopeful site and under his wings that's the name of emily's book great to see you happy thanksgiving and folks enough seen a nobody check on fox nation new series martin the saints, stream new episodes every sunday through this december 8 exclusively on fox nation. switching gears to taxes now religion well okay points which we get the best of the best to do it is turning out michael chief economist and former assistant treasury secretary for economic policy is steve moore hosted more money and w abc radio and co-author of the trump economic miracle and gentlemen great to see you both and thank you for being here we have a good warm up to the section so do not let us our down, but steve, you know once again, we are battling with so-called experts, who do not enter do not

recognize tax cuts of 2017 the tax court brought in more revenue and across the city money coming to make money and we got 48 percent increase, and revenues after he came in in 2017, in the latest attack on actually renewing and revitalizing the tax code and letting it live for another ten years, that's a committee for responsible federal budget and they just another morning today, saying that as congress considers extensions, and expiring provisions in the tax cut jobs act, lawmakers will need to come up with 39.9, after 4 trillion of work offices to prevent any such an vetting to the nations growing debt to which you say what my friend. steve: you nailed it at the outside david if you look at what happened 2000 summit 2017 tax cut coming in turns out the revenues came in more this year,

then if we had not that the tax cut it all and so somebody has to explain how it's because fault the point was there was no loss of revenue and what we did and this is what the reagan did back in the early 80s, because the tax rates got more growth more people working more profits from businesses and all of that led revenues and they claim that that making this was in the wall street journal today, pretty famous economist think that trump tax cuts will cause inflation to me this willison with reagan tax cuts and 80s from 11 percent now to 3 percent and why did they keep coming up with these false claims. david: i don't know the figures are very clear michael there's just no denying the fact that we gain extra revenue and by the way for more than a simple this is because of inflation no 40 percent is more than 22 percent and i'm sorry, it was

not inflation and in their favor by the wake of the committee for responsible government and in their favor they do come up with some savings, that may be elon and vivek ramaswamy can get in on and 1.4 trillion in savings just by canceling president biden's executive order in order specifically on student loan bailouts and this on the bed idea is it b3 that's right not only do we need to do the student loan fees but if you look at the amount of money that is being spent on the great subsidies, the inflation reductn act, you know the way the biden administration of limited that unit hundreds of billions of dollars more than this forecast. michael: because steve was just talking about think about the things in a very static wake of the do nothing about the policy changes behavior and therefore we will get a difference in economic activity, because what we do is actually grow the economy as we encourage more activity, that is what bring the prices down and have more supply, line, you bring the prices down, and more economic

activity going on, and therefore applying a lower rate to more activity and brings in the same amount of money without inflation and remember they become these are the same economist who said that if trump were a lot to come up and we go into recession we see the market take what happened on the day after the election, the dow was up 1500, we got a new treasury secretary house last friday we get the dow in record territory is so my hope for months, the people will have a little bit of humility and actually look at the numbers and the market reaction may be question some of the assumptions that when into these forecast sue hunnell. david: face of the sinking in 1980 what would have happened if ronald reagan would elect we did go through bad reception for a few years because they delayed the tax cuts couple of years thinking that come up it was katie well steve, then we have a problem what will happen next couple of months because not only is janet yellen doing some hanky-panky with regard to paying off the debt with

deficit, but we also have the hummer secretary, trying to spend money like it's going out of style critically from the chips act, the corporate welfare act a lot of republicans signed onto by the way, $280 million and she is trying to spend that like every penny of it before she leaves office and when you make of that. steve: we would think of the 2 trillion-dollar deficit, they might try to be saving some money. [laughter] and said the doing just the opposite every single penny that they can get their hands under try to passout by the way there is money going green energy ready go to money go to the democratic contributors cash in c1 companies like time on hold by bus them but you know the and of a billion dollars in this and still questions about intel the one point last week it was just because you're doing things wrong and now they're still get

all company houses. steve: one company doing well you know nvidia and they get none of that money. david: now they are not part of it. steve: the going bankrupt so maybe we should just stop the corporate welfare have republicans industries around the country, were lobbying for this crazy green energy stuff because it's in the district has just become has nothing to do with the energy situation. david: and michael, the gives back to the commerce department isn't that low hanging fruit and it seems like that it you've not an organization like the commerce department coming it is just an money burner you know, he and the programs in the corporate welfare source of to the commerce department and this is proof when department at the very least mainly commerce

department should be cut entirely because of his thesis to find a way spending your money that will help you. michael: i'm not sure when is not low hanging fruit that but absolutely commerce department is a good place to start because it is not only the rush to get the money out the door, but it is the rush to impose social agenda, thrown the pei requirements that the commerce department on its own not because the statute, but on its own, the added into all of the strings of getting chips money and they took that act they said that if you want any of this money come you need to do what we want on social issues and that's the other thing that's what they're trying to many of the door because they want to block the social policies in cubby for the leap. david: you cannot reform it as long as the commerce department exists, maybe it will be better and republicans than it is there a lot of ice many republicans you just need to cut it not find

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david: president trump we pickeo dismantle what he calls the censorship cartel pretty 20 me know is brendan carr sec commissioner and incoming fcc chair and will congratulations coming it is wonderful to see you gain a high spot. not quite there yet hopefully you get through we have to go through the regular nomination procedure the confirmation process. brendan: awfully amari converted to help 2030 soap on requires us to sentence letter from the present think the running a day one c1 is fantastic nobody's happy about you running anywhere except out the door there's one guy profession under professor the field 42 financial times and i don't know if you'll that is

and maybe censorship but he's in pretty scared that if this stuff happens, i'll be in a plane out of america and what stuff is he afraid that will happen. brendan: you look americans have lived through an unprecedented surge censorship the last couple of years censorship cartel social medias companies acting on their own third-party fact checkers in the article is about researchers and academics who live in the industry censoring every day americans in my message to them is pretty clear, here and having free reign come to silence americans and simile for exercising first amendment rights is over you want to country over, that's fine by me. david: you think that americans recognize that there's actually a field of censorship events there are people that the they said the professor the field, and he's literally there literally talking about the field of censorship that is how far it had gone in this country.

brendan: yes it's wild was not too long ago that the field of academia was all about no wide-open perspectives and free speech, senate total 180 we need to step in and do our part, as a cultural matter any government to make sure that there is not anymore censorship it free speech is central to democracy. and so imported that we return to that. david: was dark era did not last as long maybe as the mccarthy era did but in the same category at what happened in the 50s during the mccarthy era which lasted about a decade. i know a lot of people fired some people committed suicide back in knows if it is having this time. my over dramatizing situation because we really were going directly along that route, no. brendan: is a serious threat here in our country and abroad as well you see in brazil come they try to shut down asked simile because people were expressing what they feel. david: and in you click on the uk maybe people but expected

more in brazil than in the uk, but you know the magna carta, that now i just saw the video of a guy getting arrested for facebook posts, they came into his house and put them in cuffs ticking away. brendan: get right is a global search as well part of the cartels enforced by news garnet wrote a letter to them a couple of weeks ago they sort of the arbiter of truth. section 230, ultimately is a special liability protections a lot of technology cavities rely on the bias terms as relevant here, only place to good faith conduct. as i indicated before cliff your technology company relying it is guard which is a investigation for impinging first amendment rights, you putting into 30 rights in serious jeopardy. david: when we do to the 230 at some people say that we should get entirely and just subject the providers of the same kind of threats of lawsuits that magazine publishers happen yes every formable or should we get

rid of it and what you think. brendan: i think straightforward at first offer me to make sure they continue to work with the incoming trump ministration make sure that i understand 100 percent, their agenda but in the 230 that we need to make sure we continued incentives to leave speech up pro speech provision but let's address the portions of section 230, when the court separate immunities into it, the congress never intended come of the social media companies are relying on to censor americans we do not need bonus protections to censor people see what we got google come about the trump administration and the biden administration sorted to the doj process of trying to break it up in some way. but you think of people like elon musk you suggested maybe you would like to have search engine maybe will have exit search come along you think that there is enough competition in the market or doesn't need to be broken up in some way? brendan: the most recent good okay start to the trump ministration one thing that i think the president trump's

credit for three lighting national policy towards technology companies and we need to balance in the big technology cavities that exist today will continue but also little tech because we need driving competition and innovation some of the remedies right now that are being pursued, on google might you're aimed to do that which is right part chrome of a structural remedy there and then hopefully chrome continues to debate google continues to innovate we have much more competition is ultimately very good for consumers about that for too long, because just have find simple large corporation was to do something, who are we just have the wind invested well there ideologically aligned this will let them get up and fade away with it is over with and president trump that it. david: of elon musk west by msnbc, would you letting. brendan: will take a look that when my most excited about this unleashing economic opportunity the fcc president trump did once before with right policies we will do it again. david: well brendan carr it's a

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