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♪ stuart: that's the jonas brothers. two of my daughters went to school with them way back when in new jersey. lauren: in new jersey. stuart: there you have it. it's very christmassy. that's the fox christmas tree. ain't that beautiful. good morning, everyone. 10:00 eastern. have a look at your money on a monday morning. what's happening? we have the dow down 134 points, led by three stocks moving it lower e that would be mcdonald's, united health and amgen. the nasdaq on the bottom of the screen, that's a new all-time high, just hitting it, up 145 this morning, the 10 year yield, 4.23%. the price of oil, it's 68, 21. bitcoin, $95,000, $96,000, per

coin and change. just got the latest read on the manufacturing sector. you have the number for us? lauren: it rows almost 2 points to 48.4 in november, still in contraction but better than expected. contraction now for eight months in a row. prices paid fell to 50.3 from the number above 54, so that is encouraging news on the inflation front. stuart: that's good news for the small caps. now this. it is a sad end to a failed presidency. joe biden has done what he said he would never do, he has pardoned his son, hunter. he did it on a sunday night as he flew off to angola. he took his press secretary with him, said there will be no on camera questions. this is not the democrats want. just as president-elect trump makes contentious appointments, president biden distracts everyone by doing a 180 on his son, it caps a long list of false statements. call it ridiculous spin if you

like. they make the party look bad and destroyed his presidency. inflation was not transitory, no, it wasn't. the border was not under control. certainly not. the afghanistan debacle was not a success. he said it was. biden did meet hunter's business associates. he said he hadn't. all the time, joe biden's mental and physical abilities were clearly in decline to the point where democrats had to force him out of the race. he's been mad about that ever since. in his letter pardoning his son biden said, quote, raw politics has infected this process and it led to a miscaring of justice. in other words, his son was the victim of the deep state, the justice department. biden is therefore on the same page as donald trump. why shouldn't kash patel go after the people in the government who organized the disgraceful lawfare attacks on donald trump? they were clearly designed to bring down a political opponent. we're in the final days of the presidency. an elderly man leaving the scene

beaten politically, at odds with his own party, there's nothing good about a failed presidency. it's a sad thing to see. second hour of varney just getting started. ♪ stuart: deroy murdoch with me this morning. i think it's sad to see the president go out like this. i don't care what you think about him. it's sad to see a president leaving the stage like this. >> it is sad. you want to see a president whether aagree or disagree with him walk out with some sense of grace and dignity for the office. we don't see it here. we see illegal aliens coming across the border, instability around the warned he lost the white house. as far as the pardon of hunter biden. i don't think anybody was surprised by that. which is sad. i think everyone heard him say i'm not going to pardon my son. i thought this would be around

christmas time, that usually takes place but instead it's now and he's flying off to angola, like an octopus disappearing into his own ink. stuart: this was written by brett stevens, the headline is a disgrace fful par dondon, in thk times. they say it is political hypocrisy, it tip fys what so many have come to detest about what the maga world calls the swamp. that's the new york times. >> i think biden could have said i love my son, he's been through a whole lot given his addiction problems, i want to be hmercy full on my son and leave it at that. but he said it's a political vendetta, it's his department of justice that went after his son on gun charges and his department of justice did not prosecute him for not paying taxes in 2013, 14 and 15.

they dragged their feet so the statute of limitations to lapse. how many of our viewers get that kind of service from the department of justice. i don't think many. probably about zero. stuart: thursday, elon musk and vivek ramaswamy will meet with republicans on capitol hill. a group of former united nations officials they say they're launching their own doge, department of government efficiency, for the united nations. >> remarkable. stuart: how about that? >> this is the trump effect. he's not even in office yet and we're seeing the u.n. reform itself. i'm sure they'll talk about agencies that ought to be shrunk or eliminated. we might not need legislation. it's very boring stuff but zero based budgeting, instead of taking the budget and saying put more money on top, you have to justify the budget from the first dollar and have the head of the agency come in and say i'm defending my budge oath from the very beginning and question

all the spending, everything they do rather than saying this what is you've done and pour gravy on top of previous spending and activities. stuart: that's going to have quite an impact. >> it's not an exciting idea but it's one that can have a big impact. why is it not done. private companies have to do this. we have to sit down with clients and executives and saying this is the budget, why are you spending this on radio and newspapers, how much are you spending for talent. you don't say here's the budget and here's 10% on top of that. stuart: all the agencies will have to respond to elon musk and vivek ramaswamy. he's probably the most effective tool in cutting spending and regulations that this administration has. >> probably the most since the grace commission under ronald reagan in the 1980s. stuart: the grace commission reported and they have various things in mind, none of them were implemented. >> you didn't have complete control of congress. you had tip o'neil standing in the way. we have 40 more years of

government waste, fraud and abuse and a greater sense that the government's out of control and a greater appetite for reining it in. stuart: maybe this time musk can do it. >> let's hope so. along with donald j. trump. stuart: getting back to markets. it's monday morning. this is how we're starting out the new month, first trading day of the new month. the dow is down close to 200. the nasdaq, a new high, up 157 points as we speak. let's talk personalities in business with jeff seeker who joins us this morning. mark zuckerberg, he met with trump at mar-a-lago. is that a sign that big tech is kissing the ring? >> i think it is, stuart. i think what we're seeing is that what happened at mar-a-lago, that was to me it reminded me of the final scene in gotin godfather one where mil becomes the head of the family and everyone comes to him to

acknowledge him, kiss the ring, kiss both sides of the cheek. he is the boss. that's what the meeting in mar-a-lago reminded me of. mark zuckerberg has been no friend to donald trump, from everything from the 400 million he gave in a side. dagways manner tothe democraticm banning trump after january 6th, everything he's done, what trump could justify doing is turning the menlo park office of meta into a broom closet. but he's choosing to have these meetings and after mark zuckerberg came out and said after trump was shot and said he was a bad ass, that to me marked a turn in the way he thinks of him. knows now that he is not some weak-kneed politician that could be bought off and if he wants him and brandon carr to

cooperate and guide them in the next decades of their existence, he needs to be a team player. stuart: some impact on big tech then. what about jamie dimon, he's been the top banker in america, he's been holding meetings with trump. he's not exactly kissing the ring but what changes to banking and finance do you expect because of the trump effect? >> well, the jamie dimon meeting was fascinating in and of itself because you have two titans and the rumor is that donald trump has a great respect for jamie dimon to the point that he even probably would have welcomed into the cabinet although he said he didn't want him. but banking regulation is onerous. a lot of the banking regulation that jp morgan and others have had to deal with throughout the years have made it difficult to pass on the better rates to

borrowers. so trump is coming in as a deregulator, jamie dimon is giving his feedback. the ironic part of this, the way i see it, is the big banks have in some way benefited from regulation because they've eliminated competition. what this is going to do is allow more competition among the smaller banks and if jay my jamn is who i believe he is which is a titan in banking, he will welcome the competition and we will be able to borrow at better rates and there will be more liquidity for small businesses, for real estate, that will help the economy as a whole. stuart: the trump effect is apparent, is it not? >> yes, everyone's got to kiss the ring and if you don't, you know, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. stuart: jeff, thanks for joining us. chief executive of open a.i.,

sam holtman, he's looking forward to working with trump. what's he saying? lauren: speaking of kissing the rings, he says the u.s. needs to lead the world in artificial intelligence and that includes building out the massive infrastructure to support i he stesat down with shannon breen. >> the infrastructure in the united states is super important. a.i. is a little bit different than other kinds of software in that it requires massive amounts of infrastructure, power, computer chips, data centers and we need to build that here and we need to be able to have the best a.i. infrastructure in the world to be able to lead with the technology and the capabilities. i believe president-elect trump will be very good at that. look forward to working with his administration on it. lauren: and that means a lot considering that altman and musk are at odds. the most interesting part of the interview is what you did not hear. he said right now autonomous a.i., no supervision, no human prompt can do its thing for five

seconds. autonomous for five seconds, soon that will be five minutes. then it will be five hours. at what point does it take over and that's the part that scares people. stuart: it's interesting. lauren: i know. told you. stuart: you got me with that one. let's have a look at super micro. it is up today, 15%. lauren: they started the search for a new cfo. this is the maker of a.i. servers, they're using recommendations of a special committee that's looking into its accounting practices. that committee found no evidence of fraud by management so the stock is way up. stuart: intel. lauren: shares are higher as the ceo pat gelsinger requires. shares up 2%. if you look at his tenure which started in february of 20211, shares are down more than 60%. stuart: he inherited a terrible situation. lauren: yes. and tried his best. he's been with the company since 1979. stuart: you've got gap. lauren: this is working. they see 24% upside to the

shires, $30 each. stuart: that's gap. lauren: gap. they'restuart: who else have w? still ahead, president biden pardoned hunter of any offenses from the past decade despite this promise to the american people. >> have you ruled out a pardon for your son? >> yes. i said i would abide by the jury's decision. i will do that. i will not pardon him. stuart: what a turnaround and we will deal with it throughout the show. listen to what jake sullivan had to say about republicans crediting trump for the israel, hezbollah cease fire. >> you know you've done a good thing when other people take credit for it. we're proud of the work we've done on bringing the cease fire about. stuart: okay. doesn't trump deserve some credit? i certainly think he does. we're going to ask former u.s. ambassador to nato, kurt volcker.

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something it says it reserves the right to do to continue to protect itself throughout the cease fire. despite what we hearing tonight, there's cautious optimism on both sides of the border hoping the cease fire does last. what's taking place tonight in israel, devastation for some of the families of the hostages after this news that an israeli american hostage was identified that he was killed in gaza. this is a 21-year-old from new york. his name is omar natra, the new yorker listed with the military. he was taken by hamas into gaza on october 7th. he was one of eight american israeli hostages, five of whom are now believed to be dead. as the idf carries out the offensive in gaza, much of the fighting is taking place where the idf found another building rigged with explosives. health officials say israeli strikes killed 50 people and

wounded others in the last 24 hours. with the threat of air strikes and worsening cold, humanitarian aid is taking a hit. unra is suspended aid from the crossing in the south where i traveled a few days ago. they say it's too dangerous, too many trucks are getting looted. the idf says it's up to international partners to set up better safety measures for distribution across the strip. >> makes no sense to try to continue to move aid if it's just going to be looted. we put the contracted driver's health and lives at risk by continuing this. so we had to pause. >> reporter: over the weekend, in yemen, massive crowds gathered in support of gaza and hezbollah. on sunday, yemen's houthis say they targeted an american destroyer and three supply ships belonging to the u.s. in the arabian sea and the gulf of aiden. so u.s. navy destroyers shot

down seven of the pro geek tiles fired from the houthis, there were no reports of injuries and no reports of damage on any of the vessels. stuart: thank you very much. let's goa get to the civil war n syria. rebel groups taken over much of aleppo, the second largest city there. russia has responded with a series of air strikes. want to bring in former ambassador to nato, k kurt volk. this seems like a huge loss for the russians. what do you say? >> it is. a lot of people all over the world right now are taking action in anticipation of president trump taking office and in the russian case, of course they've been accelerating their attacks in ukraine but in the case of the islamist terrorists in syria, they're taking advantage of the situation where russia has been distracted. the assad government has been distracted, trying to regain some territory there, including the city of aleppo so it is a big setback for russia, kind of

demonstrates that they don't have all the capability that they used to have to do multiple theaters at once. stuart: it's the trump effect that ripples all the way through the mideast, doesn't it? it doesn't stop yet. >> it certainly is. this is what we've seen with hezbollah as well. i think iran telling them it's time to step down a little bit. of course we had the breach of the cease fire but i think the line there is that iran wants to settle things down before trump takes office to avoid any direct consequences for iran. they're expecting maximum pressure anyway. and you see hamas reminding all of us that yes, they still have hostages and they might kill them so they want us to be deterred by that. everyone is reacting to trump's election in one way or another. stuart: it would be nice to know what was discussed when elon musk met with iranian representatives. wouldn't it be nice to know what was discussed and what was said? was some kind of deal done, do you think? >> i don't believe any deal would have been done.

i don't think that musk would have been able to do that. i think what he probably wanted to do was see what the iranians were saying and also convey that, yes, trump is coming back and yes, he has iran in his sights. but anything is really going to have to come from trump himself or national security advisor, secretary of state, as they come into office. that's what's going to be authoritative and that's what's necessary to convey to iran that trump actually has the capacity of the u.s. military behind him once he's in office. stuart: national security advisor, jake sullivan, he doesn't think that trump should get any credit for the hezbollah and lebanon cease fire. what do you think? >> well, it was a clever response that he gave but look, the biden administration has been trying to get a cease fire in lebanon for months and they weren't succeeding. what changed? why did it happen now? well what changed is that trump won the election and iran is having to recalculate and

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stuart: on the market this morning a split decision, almost exactly split. dow is down 175. there are three or four stocks that account for much of the loss. the nasdaq is up 177 points. lauren is looking at some of the movers which would include applied materials. lauren: the chip makers are mostly higher even after the biden administration launched their third crackdown on china's ability to get our most advanced chips, the white house and likely the incoming administration want to stymie china's ability to get them. stuart: micro strategy bought

more bitcoin. lauren: the fourth week in a low, they own more than 402,000 bbitcoin, the largest corporate holder of bitcoin. the stock is down because bitcoin is struggling to get to 100k. stuart: amc. lauren: the holiday box office, biggest ever. the stock is up 3.8%. stuart: are we going back to the theaters these days. lauren: there's gladiator, moana and the other one. wicked. they put them together and they're calling it galicked. stuart: do you see them all at the same time. lauren: some people do. stuart: president biden made a surprise decision to pardon his son, hunter, despite repeated claims he would not do that. madeleine rivera at the white house for us. madeleine, this is a full and unconditional pardon. what exactly does that mean? >> reporter: it's broad in scope. it spans about 11 years from january 22 2014 to december 202.

it covers hunter's gun and tax offenses and covers any potential crimes he may have committed during the time period and the president explains why he made the decision over the weekend. he says in part. here's the truth. i believe in the justice system but as i wrestled with this i believe raw politics affected the process and led to a miscarriage of justice. he is asking americans to understand his position. the 180 is a tough one for the white house to explain as they consistently said this. >> is there any possibility that the president would end up pardoning his son? >> no. >> president biden said that he's not going to pardon his son, hunter. is he going to ask donald trump to do that. >> i'm not going to go down a rabbit hole on that. i've been clear, the president's been clear when we've been asked this question. >> does the president have any intention of pardoning him? >> we've been asked that

question multiple times. our answer stands which is no. >> reporter: sunday night hunter's legal team filed paperwork in delaware and los angeles asking the judges to dismiss the gun and tax cases. it's important to note that hunter's broad pardon covers his time on the company burisma for which he's been scrutinized president-elect trump saying does the pardon include the january 6 sixth hostages who hae been imprisoned for years, such an abuse and miscarriage of justice. we'll see if karine jean-pierre has anything to say anything today. she will be on air force one this afternoon. stuart: thank you very much indeed. joe concha joins me now. i want you to just -- i'm going to read the first paragraph of an op-ed in the new york times written by brett stephens. part of the first paragraph,

writing about the pardon, he says in its rank mendacity, kned self dealing and wretch he'd eed, itlooks like what americant about the swamp. >> the left is not happy about this. the right is laughing at the hypocrisy here and i wrote an entire book about goa' joe bides life answered how he's been basically a pathological liar going back to days in law school where he said he graduated top in his class where he was caught in heavy plagiarism while finishing near the bottom of the class. nothing has changed since then. this is joe biden's legacy now. promising up and down he wouldn't pardon his son, only to do it anyway which is the least surprising thing we heard all year. we knew this would happen. it's safe to say we can retire the whole no one is above the

law mantra when it applies to republicans and especially donald trump when clearly it's rules for thee not for ds as in democrats, stu. stuart: i have to read the last paragraph of the op-ed. he says what a degrading finale for biden's feeble, forgetable, frequently foolish presidency. i'll leave it at that. the harris team, the campaign team, they're still looking for money. they're asking donors for money to hold trump accountable. why would anyone want to give them money. >> is that a good investment? it's utterly amazing that one campaign can spend that much money so quickly, so stupidly and so wrecklessly. why would that campaign have to pay oprah's production company for an interview to the tune of $1 million? why was al sharpton's nonprofit which doesn't sound like a nonprofit pay $500,000 ahead of the tee-ball interview with him.

why were performers paid to show up at a rally, how did the campaign end up with $20 million in debt after having all that money, $1.5 billion. it begs the question, st. if this is the way the campaign spent money, could you imagine kamala harris as president in terms of the way her government would spend money a and the economy. it's scary think about. stuart: that is frightening. but she lost. thanks for joining us. see you again real soon. listen to this, there is new speculation that a member of the squad could be gearing up to run for president in 2028. ashley, i believe we're talking about alexandria ocasio-cortez, aoc, right? >> we are indeed, stu. good morning. reports suggest that aoc would be among the potential 2028 democrat contenders along with kamala harris. really? pete buttigieg.

gretchen whitmer, josh shapiro and gavin newsom. the 2028 election will be the first one where ocasio-cortez can legally run as the constitution states you have to be 35 years and older. the congresswoman has made no public indications she will run but multiple sources telling the hill that she would be a top candidate. but former congressman matt gaetz adding fuel the fire, writing that aoc has told people she is running in 2028 since 20119. on social media several left wing activists and pundits are skeptical that she could pull it off. president aoc. stu -- [laughter] stuart: take a big, deep breath, ashley. but thank you for that report. still ahead, ted cruz defends trump's tariff plans. >> i've got say, you look at the threat of tariffs against mexico and canada, immediately

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stuart: the markets this morning are mixed. the dow's come back a bit, it's dodown over 106 points, the nasq holding onto a solid gain, up 179 points. show me the airlines, please.

i want to see them because the tsa says a record 3.08 million passengers traveled yesterday. that's a lot of people. not much reaction from the airlines, though. american, united up, delta is down. president-elect trump upping his threat of tariffs. some countries are already responding and making some adjustments. hillary vaughn at the white house, what's the latest, please. >> reporter: president-elect trump threatening the brics economic alliance, that includes countries like russia, china, iran and india, warning them not to come up with a competing currency to the u.s. dollar. trump posting, quote, they will face 100% tariffs and should expect to say good-bye to selling into the wonderful u.s. economy. they can go find another sucker. there is no chance that the brics will replace the u.s. dollar in international trade and any country that tries should wave good-bye to america. meanwhile, democrats have been warning that if trump's tariff negotiating tactic turns from a

threat to a reality, the american economy will be the one to suffer. >> when you get into more tariffs, it takes away the competitiveness of american workers, american companies, american agriculture and starts getting into just a uprise in prices 123. >> reporter: so far trump is having success in using tariffs to get the outcome he wants without the tax on imports. mexico's president is stopping caravan offs migrants from making their way through mexico to the southern border and canada's prime minister, justin trudeau, after a meeting at mar-a-lago on friday is supplying more resource, drones and personnel, to the northern border. republicans say this is the difference in having a leader the world reects. >> they know donald trump is a strong leader. they know if he says he's going to sanction you, if he's going to hold you to accountable, he is going to do that.

that's why you saw justin trudeau fly to palm beach to meet with president trump. >> reporter: the eu is bracing for tariff renegotiation with trump. the eu central bank president christine lagarde saying she wants to offer to buy more goods from the u.s. saying they want to avoid a tit-for-tat trade war where no one wins. stuart: now this. patrick industries, one of the largest suppliers to the makers of recreational vehicles in the world, they're going to be ringing the opening bell on the nasdaq tomorrow. the chief executive is andy nemeth and he joins me now. welcome to the show. >> thank you for having me. stuart: january 1st, you know what's coming, six states mostly out west but also including new jersey, i believe, they want to ban the sale of gasoline powered or diesel powered recreational vehicles. ban the sale. january the first. what are you going to do about that? >> that's correct. our industry works well together

with our customers, partners and industry association to do all we can to do what's in the best interest of the consumers. stuart: what are you going to do about a ban? that's not going to go down well. >> from a business perspective, california represents about 15% of the total motorized units sold on an annual basis. they represent 21% of the total units. in total, it's 3% of total rv shipments. for our su perspective, we're gg to work with the industry, the customers and make sure we do what's right but we're going to continue to operate our business as we have. stuart: good luck. one of the big things you would want from the incoming trump administration, i presume, would be a lower gasoline price. that would really help you guys lower gasoline prices, lower interest rates are one of the headwinds we face today. our industry is well poised for the next evolution, the next cycle to come. it's contingent on consumer confidence and help from the interest rate environment. if we get that we feel we're in

a great position to do well. stuart: you're feeling confident. >> i'm feeling confident. 40 members of our team are coming to ring the bell at the nasdaq tomorrow which represents the entire organization so we're excite todd be here. we're excited about where we stand and looking forward to the next cycle. stuart: i promise you thater 9:30 tomorrow morning your face will be on the monitor screen right there pushing the button to start the nasdaq trading day. thank you for being with us this morning. >> thank you for having me. thank you. stuart: thank you. i've got a programming note for you. good stuff here. martin score sai scorsese presee saints is available on fox nation. this is the newest episode about saint sebastian. >> you are a defender of rome. >> we must re-establish order. >> i'm here to help you save yourselves. >> i can see right through it. >> i speak in the name of the one true god. stuart: i really recommend

that. i've seen both episodes so far. bill tuning in for the new one. there is a new soaped by the way every sunday all the way through december 8th. it's on fox nation. ashley, you've got an interesting story. new numbers on bible sales. tell me more. >> what a great transition, stu. yes, bible sales are up 22% in the u.s. through the end of october compared with the same period last year. the question is, why? well, they're being fueled by worries about the economy, conflicts abroad and uncertainty over the election. in the same period, total u.s. print book sales by the way were up less than 1%. bible sales, however, rose to 14 14.2 million in 2023 from 9.7 million in 2019 and they hit 13.7 million in the first 10 months of the year. publishers say the books are selling well at religious book stores, also on amazon.com and

more mainstream retailers. perhaps most surprisingly, the data shows there has been a surge in engagement particularly among members of gen z and college students. the younger population buying bibles. stu. stuart: there's a new trend, maybe. good to see it. thanks so much, ash. still ahead, what exactly is a fair share? how much of your income should the government take? a third? a half? well, new irs data shows the extent of what i consider the unfairness. what we need is not new taxes, it's growth. that's going to be my take at the top of the hour. australia's parliament banned social media for children under the age of 16. we'll ask doc siegel to pass judgment on that. the doctor is up next. ♪ where ya headed? susan: where am i headed?

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wrestling with this one over the weekend and trying to figure it out. and i'll tell you what i have a problem with. theoretically it's right. because social media is a swamp and exposing teens to it is awful. and a new study out of denmark just showed there's no policing going on. i mean, meta says it's policing instagram and facebook but the problem is, the danish researchers used artificial intelligence and literally found self-harm videos up there and none had been removed even though meta says they removed all of them and removed millions. here's my point, though. even if i say police it, ban it, you know, stuart, that's not going to work. right? because teens are going to find out ways to get to it anyway so here's what i think instead. siegel's prescription today is don't let it into the schools, don't have it at the dinner table, stop using the phone yourself in front of your

children because then they have every right to use it. and how about reading a book? you know, if you could get people to read one book a month again, their imagination is engaged, they get into another world, maybe a happier one. they get their creativity juices flowing and i believe, stuart, that we're creating an artificial attention deficit hyper activity disorder epidemic because of the social media. stuart: a ban is not what we're looking for, a ban won't work. new research shows the number of alcohol related deaths have nearly doubled over the past two decades, especially among women. why women, doctor? >> well, because here's the medical establishment getting it wrong again. about 1 10 years ago we said, well, you know, women are different.

here's what women should drink and the truth is that there's harm to both men and women with alcohol and we're they a period of time now wherewithal the lockdowns and the restrictions people started drinking more, they became more unhappy and they weren't checking the amount of alcohol they're drinking so that's what the problem is and there's also the issue of underlying depression and anxiety that's being fed by alcohol. alcohol is an addiction because if you have one glass of wine, you taste it. if you have four or five, you can't even taste it anymore and it becomes more and more incremental so i think it's a combination of that and mental health. stuart: is there a safe number of drinks per day that people can take safely? >> see, that's the point i'm making. we said women could have one glass of wine a day and men two. neither of that is right. women, once they got past that one, they were ignoring it completely. that's what i was saying. men think we can have two.

the problem is, no amount of alcohol is good for you. it's actually a toxin. and it's bad for the body. so i say less is better. on the other hand, i'm meeting you later today for a glass of wine, right, stuart? stuart: i didn't know about that appointment. i'll probably keep it for you. doctor, i'm afraid we have to go. it's always interesting talking to you on a monday morning. >> occasionally is okay. try keep it limited. thank you, stuart. stuart: still ahead, steve forbes on what exactly is a fair share when it comes to paying your taxes. kt mcfarland on trump wanting a gaza cease fire and a hostage deal before his inauguration. sheriff thaddeus cleveland on what will happen to the border in the next 49 days before trump takes office and california congressman darrell issa on president biden pardoning his son hunter. the 11:00 hour is next. ♪

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