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david asman in borneo, it is noon on the east coast. markets off the lows, tesla and intel are leaving the nasdaq much higher, the s&p is also up a little bit but the dow moving in the opposite direction. we have a split decision, let's get right to rule no no. >> s&p and present territory must go to the market panel research ceo ray wang and mayflower advisor managing partner larry glaser good to see you both, thank you for being here, let me go to you first,, the nasdaq is very strong, that nasdaq is weak, do you take anything from that differentiation. >> i don't. >> thanksgiving might be over it's not too late to talk turkey in the markets and the thanksgiving going forward in december is it typically

favorable environment for stocks. and with the santa claus rally. it could be market moving data around interest-rate, it would be a cliché to buy more nvidia and microsoft likelihood as a broken record, there's so many sectors around policies coming out of washington that she get investors excited and laserbeam focus, those are small mid-cap industrial financial, go long ohio with the industrial midwest, maybe the coast will benefit as much going in the >>e also have to contend with the new president-elect here. a lot of interesting folks are going down to kiss the ring in mar-a-lago. mark zuckerberg went down last week maybe it's coincidental, but it is up 2.5%, what do you think about this, we have a new

generation in the white house vivek ramaswamy and year-long muscular oriented towards high-tech stocks. >> is good for all markets, one we have the antitrust regime that screwed everything up not allowing ipos to come up with staffers coming up from m&a market and a lot of m&a activity in ipos come back in three big ipos anything for bytedance and striped and data brics ready to go. once m&a regime changes were to see a growth market. we dedicate 4% inflation might see sex 8% growth and that's better than 2% and 10% inflation and that's better for the nasdaq as the s&p 500. >> the new deals will be very significant going into the fit

to future the whole deregulation structure coming in with the chop administration has got to be good for the market. >> we talked about on shoring as a catalyst going forward but deregulation is the operative word that is the term that everyone focused on back it's the capital markets excited about ipo activity most of the policies coming out of the administration and not specifically targeted to benefit big tech, you could see trade restrictions on certain technology exporting to china for example but net net there are so many sectors that benefit from the policies and the investment banks will benefit in the love the steeple into steeper yield curve they want to lend money and more loan velocity that's were likely to see in 2025, look differently than you did over the last couple of years you will see plenty of opportunities. david: we were speaking at elon musk and tesla is doing quite well.

it is up again today. it is trading up today, is this about tesla itself or is it the mystique of elon musk in the stock higher. >> is a little bit of both, with tesla there is a massive automation opportunity coming. if you look at the optimist robots we will have a labor shortage in the next ten years, we do have the ability to manufacture at that capacity and to get the automation in all these factories is number one there is an energy piece on the other hand, china has the ability to get to 0 cents per kilowatt hour in the next ten years and you can't complete with free, to get the storage up in the medic in jamaica packs is the other driving tesla stock in whatever happens with the closeness of elon musk and president trump those of the factors that people are waiting into the calculus. david: we will see both of you coming along a little later in the show, thank you to both of

you. good to see you. coming up after years of saying no one is above the law, president biden issued a full and unconditional pardon for his son hunter covering any and all offenses for the past ten years. fox news correspondent richardson is live at the white house with more on the breaking news. >> good afternoon it's a comprehensive pardon from hunter biden from his father the president of the united states issuing his pardon writing no reasonable person who looks at the facts of hunter's cases can reach any other conclusion and hunter was singled out only because he is my son and trying to break hunter they tried to break me and there's no reason to believe it'll stop here read enough is enough hunter was convicted of federal gun charges and tax charges in the white house pledged the president would respect the judicial

process. is there any possibility would pardon his son. >> no. >> president biden said he's not going to pardon his son hunter, willie asked donald trump to do that. >> i don't have anything else to share about that i'm not going to go down the rabbit hole i been very clear the president has been very clear when we've been asked this question. >> president electronic asked the pardon joe to hunter include the j6 hostages who have been imprisoned for years, such an abuse and miscarriage of jus justice, democrats say trump's picks in top justice demonstrate he would target hunter though democrats have criticized the pardon, jared polis writes i am disappointed that he put his family ahead of the country, this is a bad precedent that could be abused by later presidents and will sadly tarnish his reputation. with biden overseas the white house press briefing for the next couple of days, karine jean-pierre is addressing the

borders on air force one along the strip. back to you. david: thank you very much former assistant u.s. attorney fox news contributor andy mccarthy joining us with more on the pardon. there's so much to pick biden statement and i'm quoting his son was selectively and unfairly prosecuted and miscarriage of justice, i will agree with the miscarriage of justice is the way his son was treated as a preferential treatment that was the miscarriage of justice the house republicans reported on david weiss the special prosecutor looking in to hunter for so many years first as an attorney as a u.s. attorney and special prosecutor. this is their conclusion that the justice department of the statute of limitations on certain charges for hunter to lapse, prohibited line investigation from referring to asking president biden during witness interviews withheld

evidence from investigators excluded the investigative team for beatings with defense counsel. it goes on and on to all the preferential treatment that hunter received. yes it was a miscarriage of justice but not because he was treated badly. >> he got treatment that nobody else would have gotten but not prosecutorial treatment and what he issued this pardon is about as credible as his repeated bows that he would not ever issue the pardon, i must say anybody who watched the sag unfold new that, the way that hunter biden approached the case the way his litigation tactics and strategy during the two cases showed that he knew he was getting a pardon, the tax case while they were

picking the jury, i can't even say the evo trial it started he pleads guilty to all counts but he will admit guilt and the only reason that you do something like that rather than negotiate terms to get a more favorable sentence if you're not worried about the details because you know dad is going to take care of it. >> let's talk about timing and a lot of questions why it went back ten years is not just about the gun and tax charges by the way, it goes full hog for anything after 2014. interestingly enough the exact time for the exact pardon just before he began a burisma which led to questions about whether other members of the family including joe managed to stand any benefit from the situation. is that what's going on just a follow-up on that myself, joe biden yesterday said i'm trying

to break hunter they have been trying to break me and there's no reason to believe it will stop here. it does seemed like he wants to include any family member besides hunter as well as hunter in the pardon. >> is very telling that agosto 2014. i think it's a foolish way for them to flame the pardon politically because it's obvious why they go to that day i would've picked an arbitrary date but didn't seem to be related to anything. when biden was vice president and hunter cashing in in the biden justice department tracked its feet away that it did four years with this case they were mainly trying to get past the

2014 - 2016. when biden was vice president, that's when hunter's business in the biden family business was most lucrative. i'm puzzled why they zoom in on that day which will cause everyone else to zoom in on the day because obvious reason that gets picked the worst conduct that joe biden is arguably complicit. i don't know why they would highlight that for people. david: very quickly i get asked about the department of justice in general. as much as this will be a stain or historically on the record of joe biden. it should not leave out our discussions of what has happened to the department of justice, what david weiss did when he was investigating hunter biden in the breaks that were given in the special treatment given to hunter biden is in fact the main

point that we gotta straighten out the d.o.j. >> j needs a lot of straightening out the fbi needs a lot of straightening out we had a number of years were the finger most notorious for instead of the good work the agents do for the american people all the time, what their best known for is being used as a political weapon and i think that the legacy they have to work very hard to get rid of. david: thank you so much for being here, great to see you, happy thanksgiving. david: porter republican congressman carlos gimenez joining us now he sits on the house china select committee. we will talk about that in the tariffs in just a moment but i have to get your reaction about the pardon, your thoughts? >> i was asked on another network whether he would pardon his son and i said yeah he will because joe biden is a pathological liar he's been lying for 40 years what makes you think is not lied about his

son for god sakes. this is not a surprise to me. david: in general we just talked about andy with what happened with the d.o.j. is not just the d.o.j. there's intel agencies beginning with fbi which is part of the d.o.j., there is a whole big question about whether or intel services have been recognized for political purposes, doesn't this case get to the heart of the matter? >> absolutely i think all the agencies, the weaponization started under obama administration and president trump could not get rid all of it and president biden double down so yeah, this whole case is a great example of the weaponization and how different people are treated differently depending on if your democrat or republican. this pardon is not just about hunter biden it is about joe biden he is covering his tracks and goes back to january 2014 right before burisma.

remember the famous document that said he got $5 million and hunter got $5 million for firing the prosecutors looking into burisma pretty goes all the way back in joe joe biden is tryino cover his rear end from prosecution in the future. david: to make a point about the intel agency, the interconnection between what was happening with the fbi and how they dealt with individual cases the way the 51 intel people came out and said anything about hunter's laptop was misinformation which is a blatant lie and clearly it was all different levels of the intel community that were involved in the scam. we have to break that up. >> absolutely has to be broken up and you're absolutely right they were all in collusion to get trump that's what they were in collusion for they were

trying to undo what the american people wanted in 2016 at trump presidency and they did everything in their power to undermine his legitimacy during his time as president, we need to clean house we needed justice department, and fbi intelligence agencies that the american people can look up to answer the information coming from the agencies and what they're doing is the right thing for the american people. >> let's get to trump's tariff threats it seems that it's hitting home, justin trudeau the prime minister from canada was down at mar-a-lago on bethany folding like a cheap suit but mexico's president is pushing back and donald trump said she was swayed by the tariffs to come on his side and get back to remain new mexico policy or something of that sort to stop the migration flow. she's pushing back saying we do not have a deal how do you think that is going and who's right in that story. >> we need to pressure mexico

more yellow far left president down in mexico, i'm not calling her marxist because i'm being kind she is no friend of the united states xi jinping money to cuba to prop up the regime that's been oppressing these people for over 60 years, mexico has been shipping fentanyl into the united states killing tens of thousands of people everything will your thereabout and human trafficking in china is tied to all of it by producing the chemicals that makes the fentanyl that kills americans. i would hope that the president clamps down on china and on mexico and make them pay for what they've done to the american people for the last five years. >> congressman carlos gimenez, thank you for being here. come in a bipartisan support for doge, bernie sanders even going on to say the elon musk has it right, what's up with that. we will tell you what he agrees with after the break.

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david: bipartisan support for doge, bernie sanders coming out in support of elon musk newly established apartment of government efficiency is not really a department but will get into that bernie saying the pentagon budget is bloated and it must change, political pillows here to react wall street journal editorial bill mcgurn and former pennsylvania congressman patrick murphy, good to see you, bill to you when you have bernie sanders agreeing with elon musk and donald trump that's a pretty significant event but i think he's just referring to the pentagon i don't know if he would go as far as the department of ed and others. >> it's too bad even a liberal should be able to say we should get value for the money that we spent, the alternative keep throwing gobs of money the

frozen nature of the bureaucracy that needs to be dealt with with a hatchet rather than a scalpel line. >> as long as it doesn't hurt our troops but we have to make sure we keep america safe number one but i absolutely agree with it and to your question yet bernie sanders, ro khanna and jared moskowitz from florida who said we should look at doge for the department of homeland security there is this weekend

in america spoke on november 5 it was a changed election that is putting the truckers in your, elon musk in 18 months, it could be done by july 4, 2026 so they have 18 months once they get in there in january and i think there's a lot of us are hopeful that the taxpayer dollars will be spent in a sensible way and we will get our bank for a taxpayer but. >> as i mentioned before is misnamed the department is not an official government department it's more like something that happened during the reagan administration, the great commission which was a private effort funded outside of the government by a bunch of rich folks, will there be an attempt to make it a part of government or will it stay on the outside advising. >> i hope it stays on outside i admire elon musk and i wish him the best but i'm a little

skeptical having worked inside of the government i've come to the conclusion there's always good to be huge waste for the abuse because they lack a pricing method there is no mechanism in their. everything is judgment there not more evil, they just don't have the same mechanism that the private sector does, in my view the only way to cut down on that is smaller government, the only way to make it efficient is make government smaller and that's a huge task, i would say elon musk really wanted the gratitude of america maybe start with something small and of motor vehicles that actually works, it is so hard, if anybody can do it as a man who wants to put men and women on mars, he could hopefully do with the department of motor vehicles if he can get

a spaceship to mars, have to thaskyou with a partner with hur biden, after all we've been through what is your sense of it. >> honestly i'm disappointed. i think we the role of minority don't i would like to see what happens after sentencing this week and what goes on. david: we know what's going to happen we know he has a past for not just these two on taxing gun charges but going back to right before coincidentally or not joint burisma, what is that tell you. i'm always straight with you and the viewers i call it like i see it and i don't like the fact. david: how do you see it. >> as if a star constitution and the world wall and know what is above the law no matter the

president son or not and i'm disappointed to be honest. >> from all the talk that those of us who said there seems to be a connection between what hunter is doing and what his father was doing when he had ukraine in his portfolio. it seems like now we will never know with regard to the lawsuits. final point. >> i don't think that's a case i don't agree with the premise it was on tax and not paying taxes because he was evicted, he committed the crime and those investigations with the republicans had control of the house and senate they did not go anywhere. i think we all as americans should be greasers and victory of defeat those who lost be gracious, let's move forward in a new direction same taxpayer dollars that's keep america the best country in the world. david: you guys are the best guest, we will keep you around you will be coming back a little later in the show.

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record-breaking year. lauren simonetti is here to take us to the numbers. >> i did cyber shopping. >> i've been exercising my fingers all day, many folks are doing that today will be the biggest shopping day of the year, cyber monday the national retail federation expects 72 million people to purchase something today and adobe estimates that a record 13-point to billion dollars will be spent online with the majority of the shoppers using their phones to get the best deals we also used a.i. and chat gpt believe it or not some of the items with that have the deepest discounts including electronics like tvs and computers clothing, toys, appliances as well as furniture here are specific great deals you can expect, 50-inch tv at walmart, 25% off cost you to 98, how about a pre-lit fake christmas tree half off at

kohl's $72 in apple air pod at amazon 38% off, $154, when you factor in what is spent in the store for the entire holiday season it could very well add up to close to $1 trillion how is the consumer feeling. good, energized also on the hunt for value it means different things to people, price for some that's why these deals we were people in an exclusivity, think luxury is a meeting of value to other people, we will see how the consumer really feels on friday we get the later concentra latest consumer sentiment numbers. i bought everything from a wool hat to a new coffee maker i covered the waterfront. >> the next one is twice the best deal on toys i better purchase some that a research coming up at 1:00 o'clock. david: we will be watching, shopping is always a tap away

and so is by now, pay later the ob analytics predicts shoppers will spend 11.4% more this holiday season using buy now pay later than they did a year ago mayflower advisor mary glaser is back with us. what about the poor physical stores brick-and-mortar's, they are down a little while the cyber sales are going way up they are down compared to last year. >> that is absolutely correct never underestimate the strength, confidence and optimism of the u.s. consumer, winners and losers, walmart who got it right this year they are doing fine in target missed the vote, there are winners in retail and brics and motor look at the gap enlisted amazing turnaround with the creative genius of zach pozen behind them there's positive stories of brick-and-mortar but the real action is in cyber purchasing on cyber monday as you said sales are through the roof bus or

credit card loans and delinquencies in auto delinquencies, you gotta keep an eye on that by now pay later it's a modern version of layaway. it's another form of credit giving the ability to buy th things, we have to be careful that the government doesn't lead a bad example of overextending in the consumer follows that. david: hopefully elon and vivek ramaswamy will get a handle on that. we've been predicting if not months or years the collapse of the debit the collapse of the consumer has built up, hasn't happened is being rolled over, how long do you suspect it will continue to do so or it will finally collapse. >> everybody loves a bargain as we say, there is value in retail stocks as we talk about companies that get hit this time of year, 'tis the season for selling companies like nike that yvonne killed all year in lululemon and estée lauder they throw the baby out with the

bathwater, for careful we will find value here at year end through artificial depressed retail stocks through tax while selling in a bounce in the new year with the tax selling goes away we have to watch the consumer they feel emboldened this time of year they feel more confident that is something we should appreciate and recognize that we have to support and be careful we have to be financially vigilant. david: great to see you have a wonderful christmas and new year. ray wang is back with us. the ceo of intel pat gelsinger is retiring and guess what happened to the stock when he announced that, it is up 4.5%, was up 5% earlier investors didn't think he was doing too good of a job, ha. >> a middle-age company when you're middle-age copy it's really hard to figure out the mission and they're trying to

apply and be a playbooks and pat used to figure there's never going to solve this problem but the market had moved too fast. a.i. had moved too fast it takes ten years and they're basically working against him, he's a really good seal in general the challenge was to great and intel has to make up its mind is a be a chip company this could be a design that builds the chips and is confused at the moment or if it's a part of the u.s. government or the news that the commerce department has worked out a deal short of $8 billion from the 280 billion-dollar chips act that is going to intel pretty puts restrictions on what they can do. another was the commerce secretary romano thinks she knows better, graded they made a lot of better under bad mistakes of the past couple of years into as a company but having said that you think the bureaucrats inside the vote we can do better. >> absolutely not. it's a handout of handouts this

is basically saying we don't know who can make a chip i better than intel take this money we pray and hope it works, that's a biggest challenge is happening, what would be better they can restructured and split the two company into two parts and figure out exactly how each one of the parts will be successful because you can be a good chip design company and a good chip production company but at this point they're not doing either. >> it specifically that which a commerce department is trying to prevent them from doing and you are recommending and you know the industry better than anybody i talked to on fox business, what you are recommending is something that i believe the commerce department is restricting them from doing a national socialism that is economic model and we see it being petty enter played out and it doesn't indwell the economic model. >> it into and 43 days that's

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the cheapest food and highly subsidized, it is coin, soy and wheat which is processed we and processed flour and sugar. >> entity believes that tht is h poisonous additives and chemicals they're making people sick and fat and we would do well to follow europe's example, take the big. >> , you have a right here, you assume the health value to be the same everywhere, not a chance, the u.s. big. >> has nearly 100 more calories than the uk big. >> , 42% more fat, carbs but half of the sodium and this can of baked being sold in the uk has 30% fewer calories than its american rival and a quarter of the fat. it also has significantly less carbs, not every product tells the same story for example the uk skipping peanut butter has more calories and sugar than the u.s. version but less fat.

food and beverage by the way are trading down, look at this full-screen as industry braces for a cracked out of rfk junior is confirmed, finally a federal loophole allows food companies to determine which substance are generally regarded as safe, the u.s. allows 10000 additives compared to just 300 for the eu, back to you. >> what is interesting i'm not the only one would i go to europe i seem to eat more and lose weight, there may be, i'm not a scientist or doctor i don't even play one on tv but there seems to be a connection. >> it will take a lot to change the industry and the food that people want to eat. david: great to see you, thank you very much, rfk is looking to step up regulation on the food industry and the drug industry but donald trump promised to cut red tape when it comes to office

there is a dichotomy let's wingback your political panel to discuss bill and patrick welcome back, patrick first on the positive side were talking about coming together on some issues and i'm not for bipartisan just for the sake of it but it just the people on the democratic and republican side that something needs to be done. >> that's all americans feel whether they voted for donald trump are not people say this the people spoke there is a changed election and let's move the ball forward in a constructive way let's actually get things done in your seed and states like pennsylvania and strong governors like josh appeared doing great things like that and were hoping to see that the federal level as well. >> editorial for free markets at large whether pharmaceutical companies or the fda or whatever is there a danger of it conflicting with the overall

goal of the trump administration of reducing regulations. we don't know what rfk is going to do i like his libertarian impulses to reduce and/. i fear impulses that might mean he substitutes his preferences and has mandates. we will really have to see what it means, which is going to win out the libertarian impulse to parent down into the minimum or the impulse to tell us what is good for us and force it on people. david: i want to stick with you, your dad who i'm happy to say i know is a wonderful guy and fbi agent and you and i and he had been talking about the changes in the fbi for many years now and he was very opposed to the politicalization of the fbi

particularly with the trump issues. kash patel is a very controversial pick as the replacement of the fbi director, does your dad, the old school fbi agents think that is a good move? >> i cannot speak for my father or the other fbi agents. i will say he's been very disappointed in the fbi and he does thank you need to know about. his preference has always been that they should pick it fbi director who is been an fbi agent and knows the culture and can restore there is a lot of special agents in charge out in the bureau in milwaukee, chicago, los angeles, take your pick. even though i personally like a lot of kash patel complaints about the fdi and so forth, i'm

not sure he would be my pick to do it. you want someone that knows the system. if you're trying to restore a pretty good thing that works is the culture which is very important and law enforcement agency, you want someone that knows it and it is so odd i will call them a year or two ago when it comes to the fbi director we never pick an fbi agent we pick the cops, the fire department, naval officer beheaded the navy but we never seem to pick an fbi agent for the fbi. david: there are more bureaucrats. broader enter broader point, americans are dangerously cynical but for good reason about our entire government but particularly intel agencies like the fbi and cia, et cetera there's a lot of problems with both republican and democrat administrations over the years how should the trump

administration restore in these agencies. >> people with the full faith and confidence not just the president of the united states but the american people. i agree with his assessment on the third-generation veteran my father my uncle late have their lights and law enforcement confirmable enforcement as well fbi is the premier law enforcement agency in the world and yes there are some bad actors like there is everywhere in the military but 99.9% of the folks doing god's work do great things to keep her family safe so putting someone up there that has experience that will bring the full faith and confidence of the american people, that's what america needs right now during these defining moments. >> we touched on this earlier it's not necessarily a particular agency or particular person, it is the massive government government has become an influential part owner lives we don't want it to be but it's grown organically or maybe in

organically. is that the basis of the problem? >> when i was in the bushel administration we had a program that evaluated all federal programs to find out what the goals were whether it was working or not working or need more money and so many of the programs weren't working at all and there's no mechanism for dealing with that i think we need to make government smaller. david: i want to give patrick a final point, bill clinton said the engineer of the government was over and he was not right. it turned out bigger government coming with president obama. is there any democrat saying that? >> about my former colleague saying that when i was there is a blue dog democrat in the approved eight exceeding billions of dollars of taxpayers auditing on financial waste fraud and abuse with healthcare and medicare specifically but there are folks ready to roll up their sleeves, the work for the american taxpayer that can get

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david: intel ceo step down in their stock rose, the same can't be said for stellantis their stock falling more than 6% after the ceo resigned following plunging jeep and rhenium sales in the u.s. they have chrysler jeep, dodge or whole bunch of different brands, here's a look at the markets overall if we could take a look at it. a split decision, the dow is down 156 but look at the nasdaq almost up a full percentage point, 189 points edging closer to the 20000 mark, that does it for us on cavuto "coast to coast", neil is back to mark, brian brenberg and "the big money show" are here. brian: thank you very much, i am bria