else. you are first. what have you got? ashley: thanks. i was trying to count them during the break. i will go with number 2, 41,000. lauren: i'm always on the same wavelength as ashley, number 2, 41. >> i said ashley as usual molly right, don't fail me now. stuart: you said 40 one thousand but i'm going with number one, 48,000. the answer is 41,000. >> it was not rigged like oz perlman. stuart: it is separate in nine different zones, the zip code 12345 the long stu schenectady new york.

neil: still looking at bitcoin, it will not stop. one hundred thousand dollars a coin. unless you are trying to keep track of it. it is one hundred 40%. it is more than that, right now since the election of donald trump, 50% since the election two weeks ago, we will talk to the robin hood the ceo, a popular trading vehicle. to charlie gasparino and what to make of this. a big fan of crypto, very enthusiastic about it, the president-elect coming good in. what's going on here? >> we been reporting this because of this is more of a regulatory story than bitcoin

or block chain technology. this is maybe irrational but enthusiasm in the crypto community. a pretty niche crypto known as x rp is up 400%. that is more than bitcoin. this is exuberance across the board and it is regulation, trump ran on deregulating crypto. sought the crypto industry for campaign contributions, he received that, they were big supporters, might have helped him in certain places in a close election, he has a regulatory team that is much more aligned to the crypto business including the story we first foreshadowed, paul atkins who was part of the digital

chamber of commerce, long-term securities lawyer in the front running to the sec chair and that announcement, this is where it gets interesting, i don't think paul atkins, knowing what i know about his background is going to say let this thing go, no regulation on crypto. these are securities lawyer who believes in disclosure mandates. there's not a lot of disclosure involving crypto companies like ripple and others. being real clear here, assuming he will open the floodgates with no regulation there will be regulation with paul atkins as chair. it will be less than what gary gensler gave you which was enforcement by regulation. we will see one of the crypto advisors of donald trump sitting in a room with paul atkins and others. and they will try to figure out

a regulatory framework which takes it out of the enforcement which the crypto industry hated and a lot of people said was unfair, something more innovative and that's why you see the run up. rallies reverse at times, there's little irrational exuberance. stuart: a little money side into this. when it comes to donald trump, he wasn't keen on this in the beginning, looking at it he reassessed it and became a big fan but to hone in on what you said it doesn't mean we go from a lot of regulation and watching what they are doing to none of that. charles: the republican commissioner believes in a

degree of regulation, paul atkins is a long time securities lawyer who was on the commission under george w. bush. he believes in the basics of the securities law as written. not that we should do what gary gensler did with environmental disclosures, he believes in disclosure. there' is not a lot of disclosure in the crypto business. there will be a regulatory regime involving disclosure and i will tell you it won't be wild west stuff. in terms of trump there is going to be a book written about how he became pro crypto and donald trump will play a role in it. neil: i am telling him. great job. excited to get this next gentleman on the show, a big fan of what he has built up,

the robin hood ceo, the crypto trading, political debt trading a lot of money with that spread far and wide. i was noticing your stock quadrupled over the last year a little like bitcoin, but it can be volatile, you had an incredible run. why do you think is leading that, leading the charge? >> robin hood went public, it was at the peak of the secular bull market and 2022 was a little bit rough but if we look at the company now versus when we had our ipo more diversified business, generating north of 100 million in revenue, and we

are expanding across multiple dimensions, active trading business, goal to get number one in the active trading market. lauren: 1 is it now? >> not quite but -- neil: has grown precipitously. >> november relative to october was up 400% for us in crypto volumes, bitcoin is a chunk of that, october was a strong month as well. neil: this help have happened if donald trump not been elected? >> hard to make these predictions. we had several products on election night that were trading and allowing customers to respond to market events, you mentioned the presidential election market, super innovative product.

we had half a billion in contracts in just a few days. neil: election day itself would not stop. >> it was the lion's share and there was crypto, 24 hour equities markets and we launched futures trading as well. the market responded as election results became more clear. it is what you were discussing, the belief and optimism at the end of regulation by enforcement regime which has been terrible. of carpet bombing of the entire crypto industry in the us which should support innovation. neil: it will be more accommodative administration, lighter on the administration.

what is combined to bring us to this $100 coin level. i certainly understand jerome powell when compared to gold, a lot of events coming in, very accommodative and supportive of this but what made this interesting? >> we are early in the adoption cycle of this new technology, not a lot of institutions have wanted to go into it. they've been conservative awaiting regulatory clarity, clear rules for the road. neil: it is in their mix of offerings, investment firms that use to skew all this. in their list of offerings.

>> if you look at the registered investment advisor market they are now talking about getting crypto exposure, a multi-trillion dollar market, you are starting to hear more about companies putting bitcoin and crypto assets, treasury on the balance sheet, talk of bitcoin strategic reserve. neil: that would be a game changer. >> if that were to happen would surely follow suit. if it is like gold, gold strategic reserve, why not contemplate diversifying that into crypto currencies? the larger point is this is at the frontier of innovation and financial services, not just a tradable asset but the next evolution of infrastructure like how we went from mainframe

to on premise to cloud, block chain and that's the next step in that. the question is do we want the us to be a leader in this industry like we are in artificial intelligence. the answer is obviously we want to lead and for a while we weren't sure whether the current administration had that view but the next one gets it. neil: it used to be it drew in a lot of young people. a lot of the success is taking the stigma and boredom out of investing, that wasn't an old man or woman's game and i felt that was analogous to the early type of bitcoin or crypto currency. now there are those saying this is pretty cool stuff.

how would you define who is buying all this? who is getting involved in this? >> we have a front row seat to retail where the largest retail crypto trading platforms out there and have been expanding our selection, up 400% month over month. it is a very retail heavy asset. stuart: representatives from the bitcoin arena saying the same thing for the faint of heart, get it get it get it. people have yet to be severely burnt on this. if you are at this a year ago you would be up 60%. i am sorry, 140. there were jagged edges but the jagged thing is up and up and up.

our people prepared if what you see with the sudden market crash. >> we have gone through a few of these cycles in the past, in 2013 was the first major one where you started to hear about bitcoin in the news that went up to a thousand very quickly and back down in the hundreds or below a hundred and in 2017 it went to 20,000 and into the single digits. neil: when it went down, did people bail out and a few brave souls stuck with it or with every dip you had the buyers come in with market corrections? >> people have been holding more and the reason, when you look at early adopters a lot of people be leaving the

technology, they believe it is the future. there is a culture built around weathering these storms and holding throughouts and downs. neil: it could be a trojan horse, right? all other investments have been going up as this has been going up and the argument for bitcoin and crypto currencies and crypto players, when the world is falling apart this is going to be the goal, the haven and even though traditional stock market rises and people could be getting sucked into something that is just not sustainable. >> my personal view is that of diversification. i don't like to put my eggs in any basket which is funny because i'm an entrepreneur.

neil: when you look at your assets, this much in the stock, i don't know. how much would bitcoin be a part of that? when i talk to people who are not as successful, 10% of your assets. >> i have to be careful not to give investment advice, but -- neil: are bumping into it accidentally. >> most people that are professionals would not advise something as high as 10%. but what is certainly happening is more and more people, used to be your financial advisors would talk you out of it, stay away from that. i don't think you are hearing as much. neil: nvidia, apple and amazon,

but by sheer reverse gravity it is going to become a larger part of the -- and they selloff of it. and you have the stellar success stories. >> one is a tradable asset, equities options and futures, the other which i think is more interesting as a technology layer. the path to this paved the more clearly with a new administration. and payment processes, the cost of us operating crypto business. both are at scale.

neil: you much paris further collar saying deal in crypto. >> you see an increasing number of traditional assets like stocks on crypto infrastructure and what that will do is not just make the experience better for investors, you will get 24/7 trading for free in fractionalization. the end cost should be the efficiency and the number of third parties and intermediaries. neil: 1000 or less bumpy ride. this is going to a million, to 5 million. not that long ago, 100,000 seemed incredible.

>> depends what happens if there is bitcoin strategic reserve which a lot of big sign maxis are excited about -- neil: change things to what degree? >> can't make specifics. neil: a tenfold run up. the sheer pace worries you? >> silver market, one. 7 trillion give or take, gold is 18 trillion. gold is the most valuable asset and you've got bitcoin which has crossed $2 trillion. that is why people got excited about the comparisons gold and

people make that comparison, if of the utility, in some ways the utility is superior, you don't need to store it, the cost of it should be lower. the gold, $18 trillion benchmark which people point to. neil: attend times advance right there. >> that is a large part of why people are excited about the fed chair's comments. neil: that came out of the blue and that changed things. >> they are taking it more seriously. for a while it was being ignored and criticized. neil: they are endorsing this. >> a big trend of people making their own decisions about their investments and where to deploy their capital and the american

people have clearly said that they want to have safe access to these new products and want america to be a leader in this new growth, the optimism, glad the country is going in the right direction here. neil: how many people tried to kill it in the crib and didn't succeed. good seeing you. the robin hood ceo. from one billion or to another billion are making news on capitol hill, elon musk with vivek ramaswamy, looking at the books, talk to the people who look at the books, trillions of dollars worth of government spending. we are on top of that after this. ♪

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>> reporter: we wanted to find out what the goal of these meetings were about. this is a brainstorming session between elon musk, vivek ramaswamy and republican lawmakers on capitol hill to cut $2 trillion from the budget but this is also a way for musk and vivek ramaswamy to sniff out who was going to help them do that and who was going to stand in their way. we went into the meeting with senate republicans on the doge caucus and asked about his strategy. how much do you think you can cut without congress's help? >> on our way to the meeting, having a great discussion today. >> reporter: how do you convince lawmakers who will not help you in this effort to work with you? >> we appreciate it. thank you. >> reporter: some lawmakers will need persuading, top

democrat on house appropriation committee saying they are gang of two, a lot of downsizings they can get done from using executive orders to gutting waste from federal spending, the federal government has at their fingertips, that is up to congress and they are getting backup from unlikely places. bernie sanders saying elon musk is right, other democrats are joining in too. >> there is not a single american who thinks government is perfect or anything that can't be changed so democrats should embrace government efficiency. >> don't know why it's controversial to laminate waste. anyone can support making the government more efficient and saving the money that we can. >> reporter: part of the strategy is to make people show up to work in person.

musk saying if you don't count security guards and maintenance workers, only one% of federal employees show up in the office 40 hours a week to work. neil: kept chasing them and if you solve them they were trying to outrun you. if they did that with me i would say the hell with it but you don't stop. >> reporter: i am a little out of breath. neil: a young mom right at it. always enjoy that. a news story, that is part of it. senator deb fisher kind enough to join us, the senate armed services committee, very key player. the center, glad you are standing in one place so i don't have to chase you but let me get your take, you have two

rich guys looking at the government books the president-elect wants them to do that but they are not a us congressman. does that part of you bother you? it is a tall task and they will site because they are good at this where repetitive expenses and the like but they are doing it, they are doing it. >> it is important to work with the administration, work with people close to donald trump, republicans and democrats to deliver better results for the american people, that ties in with how to quit wasting taxpayer dollars and find programs that work, find programs that don't work and work to eliminate those. i was happy to see senator

fetterman, bernie sanders, not folks i usually work with but to come together with what we should all be interested in, being able to prioritize taxpayer dollars on things that first of all our a duty of the federal government and have a true benefit to the american people and not just think of new programs or add more money to programs that aren't effective. neil: it has been a long time on the part of that, fraud and abuse and it is always will intended and never goes anywhere. what will make this go somewhere? >> it is a partnership, administration where donald trump has been very forthright in making his views known that that is what he wants to do,

deliver the american people, and a variety of issues. and we have a number of senators in the united states senate, james langford, joni ernst, who have had in the past a lot of proposals but it is hard to get any results on that, unless you have an administration that will prioritize, we are able to find democrats who want to work on that and answer to their constituents as well. neil: he is savvy, and weight outspending to protect the spending that helps him and

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on who is that guy. alexis mcadams in new york city. >> reporter: the video that was released, this guy was a complete pro. getting starbucks and showing his face all over the city. the same mask pooled down, according to the new york post on the upper west side. and out here live. it could be key evidence in investigation. that will edge into their shell casings. d9, depose and defend.

those words, it was etched into the metal bullet casing. it is similar to the title on your screen, that condemns insurance businesses in 2010 call delay, deny, defend. it was written some years ago but slams the insurance business and who they will or won't cover. that's the shooting of brian thompson. and the gunman was waiting for thompson. >> they are coming together. it will impede the investigation but hurt the prosecution of the person involved the but they are moving at a steady pace.

>> reporter: other pictures of the shooter wearing mask and gloves and hoody. this was at a nearby starbucks. and grab something to eat and threw it in the trash. and and 10 million a year according to reports. lived in minnesota. at the investors day conference at the hilton hotel in mid down. and it is so sad. and it is really sad. he received a lot of threats and those could have been

related to united healthcare. neil: thank you very much. these new images we are getting of this assailant. >> all criminals make mistakes, he let his guard down and to enact facial recognition, he made the mistake. the copy used in starbucks coupled with a cell phone that was captured in the vicinity of the area. it is just a matter of time before he's taken into custody. neil: the cell phone, you can't trace it but what do you look for on something like that? >> with the cell phone, what is important is the dna and

forensics for the cell phone. he handed the cell phone, fingerprints will be there. look at verse shell casings. people load bullets into their firearms, it is a surreptitious method but it appears he is wearing gloves when he discharged his firearms. when he discharge the shot with law enforcement to make that assessment and once again he blinked and it is a matter of time before we are able to take him into custody. neil: deny, depose, and defend were carved into the shell casings at the scene, this goes back to a book about the insurance companies in general that tend to not pay out a lot of claims. if you are the assailant, using

bullets like that, are you more than a potential hitman or are you the one taking of this upon yourself to go after this guy? >> difficult to discern that, could be someone else who hired him, we as americans are having asked to grind as relates to healthcare insurance. we've all been denied at one point or another. it is difficult to say he was the actual victim of an insurance company that had coverage that was turned down or someone who was hired as an assault. the nypd has the greatest detectives in the world and a matter of time before taken into custody. neil: they all make mistakes, they try to find the perfect assault and i wonder where you think he is.

in cases where someone's identity or face is recognized is usually people who see this all around the world, i know that guy, i went to school with that guy. how are images like these relate and eventually help in solving cases? >> we have a crime stoppers the union that will produce a series of posters that circulate throughout the city. an email blast that will be sent all over the country because we get wanted posters from various counties all the time so that blast that comes from our crime stoppers unit will enhance the ability for additional citizens that provide a tip to the nypd or local police department and that is the asset police

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>> the question is do we want the us to be a leader in this industry like we are in artificial intelligence. the answer is obviously yes. we want to lead and for a while we weren't sure whether the current administration didn't have that view but the next one gets it. neil: robin hood's ceo, a big player in the crypto arena. you could purchase political bets and sports betting but it

is crypto demand that made the iconic standout in the financial community. people were drawn to bitcoin in general which stored almost 50% since donald trump was elected a month ago. let's go to peter truckman. he has seen fads that come and ago. don't know if crypto is in that category. what do you make of it? >> for the longest time i didn't understand it and resisted it and felt i had missed the boat and was angry at it and not gotten involved. that was the psychological journey i had taken with bitcoin. obviously by donald trump, saying he was going to make the us the kingdom of crypto and now that he won the election given it the boost that it needs.

i bet there's a slew of people waiting for it to actually get to $100,000 to validate whether it was real or not and they will jump into the market. there is money on the sidelines now for the last year because people were not convinced we would not be in a recession or depression in the interest rate story was not going to take down this market and they realize for a year with the s&p up 24% but i can't sit on the sidelines anymore -- stuart: markets with of a rally in tech stocks that accelerated, all ends of the market catching up, midsize companies. what do you see as the weeding out process.

>> >> the democratization, millions more people. i came back from dubai at a nap ask conference, thousands of people show up, young people invested in crypto or for x. there's a massive generation. and whether it is 4 x crypto or equities, they are trying to put money to work. and i never bought stock even though i worked here but we are seeing a new generation of young people involved in the market. one of my taglines is invest in stocks, maybe people are listening to me. that is the mentality that feels people are doing because when you talk to younger people

who would not have any knowledge of stock market or crypto or any of these financial instruments, it they are all invested in it at some point but a little bit of crypto or whatever it is, people are spending money investing in the market and the future and that is what we've seen on the stock market. we've seen it in crypto. we've seen an irrational to add point enthusiasm about putting money to work and investing in this. neil: in dubai talking to big rigs. mice go to an event in the poconos. i always learn something. thank you very much. the animal spirits are alive and well. more after this. ♪

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