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this final couple of weeks, what's happening on the consumer front, we got confirmation from american airlines, packed with people, robust holiday spending and demand, in the meantime exploring cabinet choices donald trump has are making the rounds on capitol hill, senator cornyn meeting with one of them. aishah hasnie following all this. >> is it good down here? >> the drama was exciting. i stopped everything to hear that. >> we have been chasing these

nominees, the nominee for the fbi director, so far he hasn't served a lot, we been asking who he might go after in terms of investigations, the january 6th committee, kristi gnome is meeting with four senators including senator rand paul. trump's defense secretary pete hegseth meets with two senators, lisa murkowski or susan collins after a bit of progress on senator joni ernst who says she will support hegseth through the process but she is still not a clear yes just yet. senator ernst has been getting back lash because she confirmed secretary lloyd austin and folks have been bringing up the idea of primarying her.

senator mullen, if that should happen, he told me know. >> should she be primary if she says no? >> is going through the process because it is very important to her. this ad that was targeting her i disagree with is that. she takes her job seriously. if you know anything about her she's a wonderful person but there's a reason she has been successful in her military career and has a senator, she's going through the process. >> reporter: back out here live it seems we don't have any nose on the board the transition team looks at as a good thing. we don't know where the yess are totally but looks like senators are saying we want to go through this process, to get the fbi background checks and

go through these hearings before we decide how to vote. neil: if you don't do the bidding they will primary you? there used to be a day republicans would back the democratic cabinet choices, there was a day when we were thoughtful about this. >> it is an interesting time. senators will remind us there's a separation of power, three branches of government and they take their advice and consent duties very seriously and they want to do it in a thorough manner, part of this is speaking to these nominees early on before we get to that. donald trump has a mandate, he

won battleground states and there's a message that americans according to trump want disruption in the federal government. that's what he's doing with these nominees. senator cornyn was talking about how trump has to think how much political capital he wants to extend in the senate because he has an ambitious legislative agenda they have to get to work on. neil: you wonder how long the threatening process goes. congressman scott perry, i know this is a senate choice where they make the choice on key pics, what do you make of her that if you don't for example follow the president-elect's bidding or others bidding that they would primary you? the point is is that constructive? does that yield results?

>> the senate has a role, that's why it is in the constitution. the senate would be smart to remember that there majority is due to donald trump and his work across the country campaigning. that is why they have the majority in the senate and these other people he has selected to fulfill his mandate that the american people want to. it is reflective of him. if you have an issue with one of the president's nominees it is appropriate for those members to talk with him about it but it is not appropriate to go to the press and try to leverage that for whatever it is for. i don't think it's a conversation that needs to happen between them and the president and the same photo are often against republican nominee is seem to have no problem voting in favor of democrat nominees. even the most questionable ones, like alejandro mayorkas, and other folks, which i think

reasonably deserve more scrutiny and have done great damage to the country after the fact, you have to put that into the mix and decide what is right. neil: does ago too far to threaten primarying someone to -- if they don't do what you urge or say. >> i don't know the president has done that. the republican party is a party full of people who are independent thinkers. we don't take orders from anybody except our bosses, the american people in the good lord above. that having been said if we are not going to fix things in our own party we can't rely on the other party to do that. neil: i don't think anyone can intimidate you voting for or against someone and threaten a party challenge but we will see. let me switch gears. we are losing sight of the fact that we could be staring at a

government shutdown not long from now. how likely is that? >> i don't think it is likely. i don't think any of us want to see that. there are ways out of it but we've got to be cognizant of the fact that every hundred days we've got $1 trillion to our debt and at some point, what is the point? we have an opportunity to make a difference and make some changes. f our colleagues on the other side of the aisle don't want to do that they should face the scrutiny of voters and the ire of voters because everything they've done the last four years have increased our costs, everything you purchase is connected to energy and spending at the federal level and now is an opportunity to make something different and we should pursue that with all vigor. jackie: got pair he from the beautiful state of

pennsylvania, the shooter of the united healthcare ceo was found at a mcdonald's eating dinner until he was arrested and put behind bars near altoona, awaiting extradition to new york where he will be charged with murder and various counts of forgery and weapons possession. >> luigi mangione is in a cell at this mcdonald's where he was spotted yesterday morning and we are getting word there will be an extradition hearing at 1:30 in blair county, pennsylvania. that will be interesting, if he decides to fight his extradition it could be 45 days before he is moved to new york city to face the murder charges in the shooting and killing of united healthcare ceo brian

thompson. if he decides not to fight this he could be moved as soon as today and that will automatically be decided by the district attorney but we are getting a first look at this altoona mcdonald's, luigi mangione eating a hash brown in the back of the restaurant at 9:15. he also had a blue medical mask on. and i would is named larry was inside that mcdonald's having a coffee with a friend when his friend turned to him and said that looks like the guy from new york, recognized his bookbag and his jacket and larry said the employees about the same thing. customer spotted luigi mangione, alerted an employee who called 911. that is when rookie altoona police officer just we 6 months on the job named tyler fry arrived at this mcdonald's, he spoke to luigi mangione who got

nervous, shaking and was quiet, when asked if he was in new york city recently. here's officer fry, listen. >> he was wearing a blue medical mask. me as my partner and i recognized him immediately. we didn't think twice about it, he was very cooperative with us. >> reporter: he gave a new jersey fake id, that was used by the shooter in new york city to check into a hostile. he had $10,000 in cash, 3d silencer and faraday bookbag capable of blocking electronic signals and he also had handwritten 3-page document or manifesto.

>> the number one most expensive health care system, the life expectancy of an american is ranked 42 in the world. if he's writing a lot about his disdainful corporate america in the healthcare ministry. >> reporter: according to the associated press the manifesto wrote, quote, i wasn't working with anyone. i do apologize for any traumas but it had to be done. these parasites simply had it coming. he faces, luigi mangione faces five charges in new york city including murder. we will see when he is extradited to new york. neil: very thorough. of a managing director, chief of boston police, wasn't working with anyone, he says. do you believe that?

>> to be determined. that was a read after he was killed by somebody if he intended to go after other targets. we will figure that out for sure but that is a statement for now. neil: some water with a grain of salt, they put out there motive but often people are surprised when they realize he was high school valedictorian, did a lot of dumb things along the way. what do you make of that? >> he went on to a pathway to violence. good college and universities to want to engage in homicide, something went wrong the.

the investigators go back and look at what might have changed it in his life that put him on his path. we saw the quotation of him idolizing kaczynski, another brilliant individual who started targeting corporate america for whatever reason and went down a path that led to deaths and injuries. an opportunity to intervene, was there an opportunity, doesn't look like there were direct threat signals identified so far. a million hits online where people are talking about the healthcare industry and advocating this guy has some type of avenger that creates concern for companies that are trying to keep their people and locations and facilities safe. neil: i wonder what will happen in that front? in the case of brian thompson,

ceo of united healthcare who was gunned down, he had security, didn't have any that morning but a number of other ceos, controversial industries like healthcare, defense contractors and the rest to had their brushes with those who wanted to take them out i remember in the 70s, targeting big bank ceos and others, there's a danger, might be a heightened danger, what do you think? >> there is a heightened danger, the attention to this case caused people to talk about it and engage in conversations and bring forward their concerns and the grievances. agreements can change in a day, it can be not controversial but lose money in stock, somebody is aggrieved financially decides to take against the ceo, the ceo might not have

anything to do with it but the face of the corporation if someone has disdain for whatever reason, policy decision, something they put out. disgruntled former employees. you can look online and find information about people that can utilize just like this shooter did to target the ceo, their habits and potentially set them up for this attack. neil: is scary, the former chief of the boston police department. in the meantime i don't know if you've been following the excitement over a new google chip that apparently is part of a quantum computer that needed just five minutes to solve a problem that would take supercomputers tense up trillion years. first of all that is amazing, secondly, what is step trillion?

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neil: looking forward to talking to my next guest from baron's who are so good at crunching the numbers. american airlines, one investment house, largely because we are spending like drunken sailors, i am sure a lot of drunken sailors take offense to that but they are flying too. the numbers are not quite up to snuff. it's a sign that we are in the database is not, but taking a lot of days off. the strong consumer depends on where you pocket that. we were kidding about that in the commercial break the bifurcated or whatever you want to call it, there were different recoveries.

>> booking and all these types of stuff, airbnb talked about decelerating growth in their business and at that point people were like travel absolutely surged after the recovery of code and comparisons for revenue and things will slow down. and earnings guidance, it is surprising that you would get more deceleration than you were getting. neil: this has gone on longer than we thought. the pent-up demand to get out post covid, i could get it after 2020-20 one-twenty 2 but this is gone on and on. >> there was a surge in travel

spending, huge growth rate in the one or 2 years post covid, when you look at estimates for airlines, specifically alaska airlines analysts are looking for 4% revenue growth from alaska air this year but then next year, 2025 in the next few months, looking for 20% growth. some of that has to do with the fact that alaska airlines bought a hawaiian airline with accretion from their. and they, that is a good business they are getting. major cities including tokyo, that's important for them but pretty good growth. i think consumers are saying i want to keep traveling. neil: a lot of this rally that has been stunning people is built on surprising strength of the consumer. technology is leading the way,

has some pickups. the databases and the urge is different than taking a trip, what do you make of it? >> oracle when you look at earnings is doing really well. oracle was -- neil: until expectations. >> the stock rated 26 times forward price to earnings multiple. below, oracle used to be the s&p multiple but now it is in ai. one thing i love about earnings is the guidance in terms of growth was disappointing versus analyst looking at 8% growth going forward, but it was currency, to hurt oracle in q 4. neil: the fewer dollars you get translated.

>> if i back out of the dollar, oracle is growing in line with estimates. neil: quick take on ai and whether it will be the sensation it has been this year. >> what about that? yes. neil: you don't see that changing. when i look at -- neil: nvidia and meta, you still see that. >> when i look at ai spend into that decade and the fact that we are in the third inning of growth, rates decelerate after the first couple innings. when you get to a baseball game, it has been exciting but now settle in but we are talking double digit growth to nai market inclusive of chips and software, in the trillions. we are not out of trillion yet. we are still growing. when you have a company like oracle that will be growing for

many years to come, when you get a chance to purchase oracle at 26 times earnings rather than closer to 30 before innings, go for it. neil: good having you. back to your barons tend with those geniuses. lawrence seminary -- lauren simonetti is looking at technology that can do things we could never do in the past. lauren: i'm dusting off my application for mit. google has a new chip called willow and it helps the computer run so fast that it can perform calculations and five minutes that would take a supercomputer 10 septillion years. this timeline exceeds the age of the universe. the chip is so small it can fit in the palm of your hand. think about how it works, you

turn it on, turn it off. a quantum computers like a dinner, in between on and off. it can do multiple calculations at the same time. experts hope that quantum computing can eventually do things humanity can only dream of. vaccinations, core cancer, encryptions, weather predictions, worldwide spending on quantum computing top $42 billion, microsoft, intel, ibm and many others investor. >> quantum computing is something all big tech companies want to get involved in, without solving the world's biggest problems with competing power. >> reporter: google's ceo because it mind-boggling, eliciting this singular but powerful response from elon musk. this is geewhiz stuff.

like crypto, like ai, it requires massive amounts of power and energy and that's why experts say the little thing next to you, the regular computer is fine for now. quantum computer is the future and we are getting there fast. >> it would take 10 septillion years. lauren: just like our paycheck. write my recommendation for mit. neil: you are there and who can check them? who is going to check it? lauren: i can't tell you how much googling i did for this report and in a few years i can just ask the quantum computer to do it all for me like that. neil: this will be our kids problem. it is their world. great job as always. i found out what septillion is.

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as operations continue there are moments of desperation, thousands of people flocked to prison to search for loved ones who had been locked up. the bashar assad regime was known for mass incarceration and torture. people even brought canines, shovels and drill to these prisons, secret dungeons. the complex is trying to track down relatives and friends. intensive efforts underway to find an american journalist who disappeared near damascus, his family pleading for his safe return home. president biden says the government believes he's alive. the special envoy for hostage affairs is in beirut as the fbi tries to gather more information about his whereabouts. jake sullivan is expected to be in israel where he will tackle more conversations as pertains

to syria, lebanon and a cease-fire in gaza. through the cease-fire since it was brokered between israel and hezbollah and lebanon which so far has been holding up. neil: the middle east army special forces is the real deal. between syria imploding, not good for bashar al-assad, vladimir putin, russia, and iran, what do you make of how the fallout is going? >> the big winner is president erewhon in turkey, islamists who are benefiting and he may have designs on creating a new form of state and israel is showing why they have gone

about securing their borders in a completely new way. the strikes they are doing now, the pushing back of hezbollah above the un design border in lebanon and now in the golan heights shows that they are not going to make the mistake the biden administration did which is leave and arsenal intact when jihadists take over a country as afghanistan showed was a bad idea. neil: sometimes you gotta be careful what you wish for, who is to say whatever emergency will be any better than what was left behind. iraq comes to mind. what do you sense? >> the biden administration, jake sullivan expects an inclusive democratic process in syria. the guys who are running this now come out of the jihadist world, al qaeda and isis of veterans, they may be doing a

little marketing right now, no one changes their strikes. and person noting christians and kurds. bay singly a caliphate like state. >> better relations with that, who is to say a donald trump won't capitalize on these missteps, and maybe be able to extract more concessions out of lateral put in when it comes to whatever settlement if we have a settlement in a rack in ukraine. >> there's a play here, the russians had a warm water port in syria or crimea. the problem is the ukrainians keep sinking their boats which

is unfortunate for the russians. there may be a play trump can make to end the war in ukraine, vladimir putin keeps crimea area as the likely outcome but maybe abandons syria, his ports and airfields and stops messing around in that area. trump is a dealmaker. that is game. stuart: good seeing you. in the meantime, $100,000 a coin on a regulatory front which is curious after this. ♪

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oh... he used to be a competitive gamer but with the higher lag, he can't keep up with his squad. so now we're his “squad”. what are kevin's plans for the fall? he's going to college. out of state, yeah. -yeah in the fall. change of plans, i've decided to stay local. oh excellent! oh that's great! why would i ever leave this? -aw! we will do anything to get him gaming again. you and kevin need to fix this internet situation. heard my name! i swear to god, kevin! -we told you to wait in the car. everyone in my old squad has xfinity. less lag, better gaming! i'm gonna need to charge you for three people. neil: everyone is into bitcoin but microsoft shareholders voting down the move for investment at the time being. charlie gasparino is all over this crypto sensation and a lot of other developments. charles: it is a tough market

for bitcoin. i keep telling people this, store value like gold, maybe it is, usually when you have store value there is a utility to it and gold there is a utility. of thing around my neck. neil:'s people proud. charles: goalies in appliances. i don't know what the utility is because no one uses of the block chain technology. it doesn't -- it is not commensurate with the run-up of prices. digital coins speculation has outpaced the advance of the technology and that is a problem. neil: is in limited supply. charles: theoretically. neil: someone is a debbie

downer. and administration coming in that's more open to it. charles: you have a regulatory opening up. not trying to put you out of business. you have that and my blind spot, there needs to be a store value. every society has that. this generation's is bitcoin. particularly in this monetary policy, we print money with abandonment, we debase our currency. neil: we have alternatives. could be beyond gold? charles: an alternative to the dollar which is constantly debase to.

the whole thing would be returned the dollar, return -- neil: any fancy italian restaurants when you are not being treated do they are you pay in bitcoin? charles: a lot of people eating there could become rich from bitcoin. they tell me crypto is through the roof. neil: a lot of people won't take it. charles: there is the one bar you keep going to. downtown -- 5 people hang out. it is not my type but -- do they have good food there? neil: young people are telling me you are anti-young. charles: the guys buying the extra bottle of wine, speculators but paying in dollars. just amazing.

neil: where do we see this going? you argue it's gotten ahead of itself. neil: my own bias, every generation has a store of value. neil: you are a doubter. charles: we have to have it because we are debasing the currency. neil: wrapped up. charles: giving you fair and balanced. who made that up? you are part of that whole -- neil: are part of the map on this. charles: bitcoin and crypto, the crypto industry thinks they are really tough. neil: pushing to get rid of her. charles: nominated by biden, trump didn't know.

>> and crypto people. and they are fine on this, the crypto industry. why do you keep trying to cut me off? harris: producers are yelling at me. charles: you are cutting me off. neil: we could talk for hours. century 21 real estate ceo, let me ask you not so much about bitcoin but real estate as an investment, always competes with stocks, when is better than the other. from people saying this would be a problematic year for real estate. the hot markets, how do you assess that? >> thanks for having me on a

couple years ago with dogecoin. seriously, on the housing friend, a couple positive signs. first and foremost this decade-long run-up in price appreciation which we have seen double digit price appreciation is starting to settle in a little bit. we will end the year from flat to 2% or 3%, there is some buyer negotiation, 40% of homes that come to market are taking a price decrease. you are flashing up now. a mortgage rates, they are creating demand, we are up 3% in purchase applications. you know where we were last year, 50% increase from november 2023.

we see the fed, what that turned into, units across the country increasing year over year, increasing units since 2021. we are seeing positive signs, affordability is the biggest issue, driver of rates. neil: there is limited supply. >> we are at decade lows, that said, we are 38% increase in inventory year over year. i argue about this all the time. i argue for it. the new administration will clear some path work. and they keep up with the rapid generations coming into the main homebuying years. neil: donald trump, with ignited growth in the press.

in rate cuts. they go the other way, what do you think? >> the fed stays true, the rate cuts over the next year. when the fed starts talking about it, with the mortgage number, if your homebuyer be prepared to act, make sure they make you through the process. the rates are the main driver. honestly to your point, it is more about the inventory. another point back to the race. with existing homeowners have rates, and they move that high.

neil: are you optimistic next year will be better. >> no matter who you talk to, fannie, freddie, goldman, all thinking a couple percentage points up in price and the couple percentage points, in units and we move, normalize housing right market. neil: thank you, good seeing you. they are everywhere on this and more after this. the dow is unchanged.

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