larry: hello, folks. welcome to kudlow, i'm l arry kudlow. so are they angels or drones? over new jersey? that is the big question, the hottest story right now. house majority leader steve

scalise coming up later, and senators eric schmitt and tommy tuberville waiting in wings but first fox news peter doocy live from west calm beach what is happening there in palm beach. reporter: if i came from a different country or planet, i would want to go to new jersey too. my home state, but here in palm beach we're tracking confirmation fights over trump's picks, there is nothing they can do if republicans stick together they think that trump and his allies have been executing a successful pressure campaign that pressure is the reason that none. the bad stories about pete hegseth for example forced h-- him out. >> if the fear of donald trump and his -- for

retribution were less there is no question this nomination would go down. reporter: corey l. >> said there is no resource we will use to go after those senators. elon musk has threatened primary challenges to people that vote against president trump's picks and "wall street journal" said that building america's future, outside group running half million of ads running pete hegseth and h heritage in ads and all this toward kash patel. >> do you think that the dojshould be allowed to have access to lawmakers and their staff communication in a sweeping way, can it be weaponized and abused.

>> that has to be addressed with whenever runs fbi and different of justice in future. reporter: president-electee celebrating the word that christopher wray will be stepping down in january. president-elect said to go to new york tomorrow, he will ring the bell at new york stock exchange in morning. as newly minted "time" magazine person of the year. larry: peter, a great story. the steks stock exchange story and time man. the year, do you know if mr. trump will be overnight in his new york apartment or in bedminster, if he is in new jersey that is where drones are, or else they are angels.

reporter: a great question, if he was at bedminster there are a lot more aerial assets that the president and president elect would have around them, they have helicopters, that are flying low, they have fixed wing aircraft that fly high. over where a president or president-elect prod would be it would be a real test of the united states' abilities to detect and catch or destroy or deter or whatever they need to do with the drones -- if they are drones, we have not been told where he will stay. and since butler, pa they have kept details about his whereabouts a lot more close to the vest. larry: that is key point, well done thank you peter doocy we appreciate you. >> so, are drones here to save us from big government socialism? in new jersey? that is the subject of the riff. sure, there is a nut story

making rounds this christmas. but so nutty people are taking it seriously. getting worried about it. as they should. all of a sudden then hottest story of the day, about a bunch of drones flying over the state of new jersey. new jersey military research center recorded 11 confirmed citings overhead since november 13. another 7 reports could either not be confirmed or turned out to be airplanes. now according to the new jersey mayor. who just attended a briefing with state police and state homeland security, just minutes before the broadcast began, the coast guard has witnessed 50 drones, following their ships off of the coast, 50 drones following their ships. there were up to 180 drones citings two nights ago. my god. white house treasury secretary karine jean-pierre said drones flying over new

jersey were not foreign. that by itself is caused everyone to think they must be foreign. and fairness to karine jean-pierre she is being backed up by defense department, saying, they are not coming from a foreign entity or adversaries. president biden made aware of this situation. which is very reassuring, right? new jersey congressman jeff van drew said the drones are coming from iran but pentagon denied that. now remember, this is same pentagon that claimed that chinese spy balloons last year did not pose a significant intelligence threat. and strongly advice president biden from shooting them down. if you recall, the pentagon kept repeating this fiction as that chinese spy balloon through over montana and the dakotas including our

nuclear missile sites and kept flying until the pentagon shot it down just off of the coast of south carolina. therefore their denials about harmlessness of latest new jersey drone episode are not really very reassuring. so, we await further news. in the meantime, as much as this is a christmas season story, maybe all of these new jersey drones are angels. sent by god, who is trying to heal the g garden state and safe its inhabitants from far left woke wrongs inflicted on citizenry by new jersey governor phil murphy, maybe a higher power trying to save new jerseyan inhabitants evils of mr. murphy's socialism, you could laugh, but angels did

appear during christmas many times ago and they did harold the savior of the world, you could laugh at this, but this is a better theory than what we're getting from pentagon, white house or homeland security or karine jean-pierre, that's the riff. think about this all right. now, do you too circumstances beyond our control we will put that story on hold and come back to it joining us now intrepid john carney, breitbart economics and finance editor, coauthor of daily breitbart, digest. john chargey thank you, you are saving us we have traffic and technical problems we appreciate it, you seen any angels over connecticut. >> be not afraid, i do believe we protected by angels. larry: i believe it. >> it could be, more plus -- plus able than fact that pentagon said don't notice those things flying

overhead. larry: over mo montana, people ofmont mo montana. the tough cattle ranchers want to shoot it down. >> they could have, they blue their credibility on that, they said it is nothing, weight we -- wait, we'll shoot it down. they should come up with a quick reason why we're seeing this. >> talk about consumer prices, boring, but, you know, we go from super natural to the -- >> holiday shopping season, consumer prices are on fronts of people's mind. >> point today's number, which wall street is ignoring but nonetheless looks like the inflation rate is ticking in the wrong direction, going up slightly. rather than continuing on down. >> breitbart business digest we have a chart showing it has been going up since

june, it is not going down, the fed was wrong saying it was coming down it has been described by fed's friends at "wall street journal" and elsewhere whereas a bump on the road, this is not a bump this is a turn, ano -- inflation has not been coming down for months there is no sign it is coming down. both of those annualize to y -- 3. 8% inflation that is higher than just a couple of months ago. larry: i'm looking at this stuff, you are right. if you look at core inflation rate, 3.7%, in last f 3 months, 3.3 in last 12 months, measure j. powell cooked up, core services cpi ex-rents that is up 4.3%, fed's target is

2. and as you said really been moving in the wrong direction, for the last 6 months, and finally, services 4.5% year-on-year. there are a lot of 3 and a halves and 4s when you look at the numbers. why should the fed be cutting rates and pushing more money and credit to banking system as though we didn't have enough already. >> i want to add to those, we were getting helps from the good side, core good side without groceries and fuel. we're not getting help, that is inflationary. car prices are up, appliance prices are up, used car prices up 2.0%, last month, 2.7% the bond month before, this sounds familiar we went through this bursts of inflation this fed ignored twice now, earlier this year in 2021, fed is now ignoring is again, they cut twice when my should note have, they will cut against next

week that will be third mistake, mi -- jp j. powell should resign. larry: well, almost could put president-elect trump in a very bad spot in 2025. if the fed is prematurely cutting rates and increasing money supply, generating inflation. next year. that will be blamed on trump he had nothing to do with it. >> right, he did not have anything to do with it he is inheriting legacy of inflation frommed by in in-- biden-harris and jerome powell, i am worried about you will get people saying we can't afford to cut taxes now because yz inflation is too high, that is the

wrong way to lock at it, supply side cud would bring down inflation. people will ignore that, i am worried that high inflation will imperil the tax cut that the imperil trump economic agenda. larry: circling back on that, if you have lower marginal tax rate on individuals that gives them an incentive to work, invest, save wharf what of if we produce more goods, that should lower prices, if the money supply is held about the same. >> right. larry: that is why the argument by supply side is like ourselves and many of our friends is that cutting tax rates permanently producing more goods will bring prices down. like, same argument. you know. if you want to buy 4 or 5

apples, and you have only x amount of money, money does not change but now there are 10 apples what happens apple price comes down, same money chases more apple means prices fall. >> we want more production, we need it in energy and also in goods we need from bring production of good to u.s., we cannot be held hostage by whatever china is doing at and time, we can do this reduce tax rates and reduce regulatory burden. that is a supply side change we need. and but i worry that the fed -- that is just addicted to their own point of view, they can't get off it for some reason, no matter what data says, they are not, they could really threaten to undermine the trump agenda. larry: john carney. on your way home, if you see

any angels or drones, text me. >> i'll let you know there is a well the of fog, it concealed in the sky. larry: i'll leave the money on for you, john carney breitbart thank you. >> coming up we'll talk more about drones, and talk more about angels, and we'll talk more about reconciliation and about we get the tax cuts that john carney was talking about we have house majority leader steve scalise coming up next, if we can get his car in gear. and remember, right here, on set, i don't see any drones or angels i would love angels, on set, you can s catch kudlow, monday-friday at 4 p.m., on fox business. if you can't get us text your favorite 9-year-old, she will show you how to tvrthe show and you will never miss a single angel who is trying to redeem us, lord knows we need it.

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right now are the drones flying over new jersey. no one knows, defense department does not know what or who they are, you remember we had chinese spy flballoon last year, defense department said not to worry there is no intelligent problem they said it all the way until they shot it down over the coast of south carolina, do you know anything about this drone story in new jersey. >> larry, good to be with you, not much beyond what you have mentioned, it does harken back to chinese spy balloon, we were lied, to. you know a lot of us raising alarms when it was over alaska they could have shot it down. where there were no people around. it would have protected america's national security and biden and u.s. administration lied said it is not doing anything. that turned out to be false, they went over one of our major military bases, what

shaping in new jersey, we have not gotten real candid information from the administration, they are mia on so many issues but this causes more concern knowing how aggressive china has gotten, help on the way in a few weeks when donald trump is president, this is outrageous. larry: you don't suppose during christmas season they are christmas related angels coming down to help the citizens of new jersey, escape from governor phil murphy socialism. >> they need that escape. but, i don't know if santa has employed drones to help him with the elves and reindeer. i had friends say we'll shoot it down. and by the way they would. they would be s more successful than biden administration, it should not come that to that ridiculousness where american citizens may do more than federal government and department of defense,

this is our national security at risk, this not a joking matter and administration seems to treat it that way. larry: not personal with fmill -- phil murphy whom i know personally he is a great man just the policies. moving along. i want to talk to you, you have worked for a year or so about a big bang recon bill that would have trump policies a tax cuts, spending cuts and com energy reforms and border closings, now said by some that there will be two reconciliation packages, that disturbs me, a birdie told me, hang on. senator thune p bless him and steve miller, my friend may be getting out over the top of their skis in mr. trump has not made a decision on one

reconciliation bill such as you were looking at earlier or two. is that possible? actual decision is not yet machine bade by the new -- not yet been made by new president-elect. >> i think your birdies are tweeting you good information, i started talks talking to president trump about this almost a year ago, talking about if we win the trifecta get house, senate and white house, what we could do to make sure we're on same page starts in january, not making mistakes of 2017 why we lost months of disagreement, we're all on same page. >> trump was right there. every step of the way, he had ideas of his own that we incorporated to our first 100 day agenda we're at a point with a lot of meetings to determine the actual mechanics of it. we're not in disagreement or what we'll do, we're do great energy policy that you will love, plodderrer security lower are food

cost, rules and regulatory reform and insuring there is no -- ensuring there snow massive tax increase that means holding line, locking in trump tax cut and further on other things. it is one bill versus two we are having that discussion, there are pro as and cons on both. we have to remember 2017 created tax cuts and job act you are a great champion of and involved in that se second bill started with a 6 budget, 20 republicans voted again that budget, we still got it over the finish liline, we w. the margins are tight, fa factors in. larry: that bothers me that

adds to the risk, what happened -- it pass the last day of december, of 2017. it was almost like a hail mary pass with 2 seconds left on the clock. >> it was caught and won the game. transformed america's economy. look, middle and lower income families benefited from president trump's tax cuts and jobs act, kevin brady was author of that bill we talked about it a lot how it transformed this nation, but also created new start ups, women owned bees and minor to owned bees that saw success like never. let's go create more opportunities and wealth for families, low and middle income families who are struggling there so much uncertainty with so many tax cuts said to expire next year, let's lock it in help spur more economic growth and more money in pockets of hard working fa family.

larry: yes tax free tips, and -- overtime, and i don't want us playing russian roulette to last minute, do it right away, last point. i am producer is yelling. look, mr. trump you know, he will be wielding his tariff tool. and i think he has to. so much unfarr trading we're letting china and others get away with murder, their tariff way higher than ours. but it would be good to have a tax cut cushion before mr. trump comes in with the tariffs. that is when we did, remember tariffs came in 2018 a tax cuts in 2017. that is another reasons why i would like to to see tax cuts get done this winter. >> early as we can, it helps boost the economy. it will give so much certainty to people that are

nervous rightfully so, you know kamala she wanted to raise taxes and president trumpments to keep the rates low, with a very tight margins, it will be on congress and wement to go deliver, let's get the big wins for american people, get them done early, and you know move on, and tackle more problems, in are a lot of problems to solve we can get a lot of them, big reforms, that will benefit hard blockerring families -- hard working families and lower inflation. >> terrorist ehouse majority leader steve scalise thank you, sir, happy holidays. >> all right, coming up on kudlow, all-star senators eric schmitt and tommy tuberville, talking about chris wray resigning from fbi. >> donald trump will be ringing bell on stock market tomorrow. as time's man of the year, who knows, there may be angels over new jersey, you

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larry: more big news, christopher wray resigning from fbi, joining us to talk about that and other things missouri senator eric schmitt. mr. eric schmitt welcome. before we get to angels in the sky in new jersey, i. to read you from truth social what mr. trump wrote about chris wray, it will end the weaponization i just don't know what happened to him. the fbi ille illegally raided high of -- my home caught cause. -- senator eric schmitt, you know i don't know what happened to christopher wray either, he was appointed by trump he is a republican yet he wreaked havoc and

mar-a-lago invasion was the worst thing we have seen. okay? maybe back to bad old days when hoover was running fbi i don't know, my question -- let me ask you, so you are christopher wray and you are fbi director if the attorney general this is biden's man merrick garland, said to you, i want a dawn raid of mar-a-lago and go everywhere possible including into mrs. trump's p private belongings, does the fbi have to do it ifag says to do it? >> well they make their own determination of whether or not there is probable caw to move forward, fbi director worked with merrick garland, this is very coordinated and terrible abuse that began this lawfare that we saw play out over the course of

two years. i think it also important to take a step back and remember what happened before that. on eve of 2020 election, you know christopher wray was there presiding over the hunter biden laptop prebunching deta debacle, an fbi agent told them it was a russia hack. they knew it was real, they lied about it they tried to stop the story which was election interference then they went to mar-a-lago with an unprecedented raid then after catholics and parents who showed up at school board meetings, this is really egregious stuff, as far as i'm concerned withs wchris wray good riddance he did a lot with merrick garland it to stroi destroy a reported agency.

my whola pam bondi and c kash patel will go in there and restore it. larry: amend to that good riddance, i agree. i'm trying to just -- well is something you would know, can an fbi director say no to an attorney general? i won't do this, because i don't see sufficient evidence. that kind of thing? can he say no? >> yes, he, can merrick garland runs the department, fbi to be just like the cia. supposed to be an independent agency that works on behalf of the american people, i would have hoped, that if chris wray, which didn't happen, would have stood up and said, you know, in a private copconservation, we're not going in to raid president trump's home, and

by the way, they also you know spread out materials on the floor they published it, it was unusual, i will tell you, in my time at ag none of these things happened unless department of justice in dc sig signs off so it was coordinated. larry: basically, i know biden had trump derangement syndrome and merrick garland did it looks like wray shared it. when he had a chance to go after joe biden's documents, which were illegal because as you know senators and vice presidents do not take documents away from the archives they are prohibited from doing so, that stuff has never been tried in a court, wray was soft on that, he warned biden camp ahead of time, he did not

warn the trump people ahead, he is a bad guy. >> that right, they knew well, that president trump because he was the president could declassify the documents on his way out. and reasons why that was never fully litigated, is because the special prosecutor was uncon unconstitutionaly appointed by merrick garland, every which way luke it was rigged -- you look it was rigged and wray was a part of it on hunter biden and joe biden piece, they are in the garage, with his son with all of his dealings, with foreign actors he never registered for with a blank you know pass for with the blanket pardon in garage some pictures you could see, joe biden and i know when i go to scif, i have to check my phone, you can't walk out with anything. joe biden did it for years here, had documents they didn't move forward because guess what, he was not comp competent to stand trial

but yet he is president of united states, november 5 saturday fever broke on this this case was 3ed in front of american people. they rejected this lawfare, and chris wray and merrick garland, and rejected joe biden and rejected kamala harris, in system they put up to go after threatal open open like -- p political opponent. >> you are right. soviet style stuff, you are also right pam bondi, and kash patel will change it, i know them both personally very well. and i have total confidence they will change this, they will get -- look, it has to be's m neutral fair system and depoliticize the whole them, get the politics out. enforce laws, senator eric schmitt thank you, sir,. >> all right move along and talk to we have i hope

senator tommy tuberville. all right one second. we have to transfer microphones or cameras or somethingic while we do that, i will -- i thought i saw some angels here in the studio, i think they are just bright lights, they shine on my glasses. they could have been drones. all right but the floor manager does not believe there are drones, and it if he saw's drone he said not to worry, i put them on set, he is not dressed up for the the part. i know i am treat this story it is christmas time. i'm having fun with it, i hope i have a sense of humor it could be worse. there is no question, justs chinese spy balloon turned out to be worse. be that the people in the defense department. and the en tel intelligence agents told us.

there is other issue, mr. scalise said some of my intel birdies about reconciliation may have been right, they have not yet determined whether one reconciliation bill it cut taxes and help border or two bills. kind of sounds like there is still a discussion going on, i think what is happening speaker johnson can is coming up i don't know if he will be with mr. trump at new york stock exchange tomorrow, they will be tomorrow in mar-a-lago, florida this weekend, i think speaker johnson and president trump will figure out what the strategy is going to be. and i am hoping as i think you know to our listens every day this week and last week, same thing, put the tax cuts and the spending

cuts in the same large reconciliation bill. put them in the same large bill. any get it done as fast as you can, if you can't january 20, congress opens january 3 they can start working, president trump is president on 20th, get it done by february or march, fatten people's wallets by march, okay. bet get the tax cuts in that is what mr. trump ran on and his working class coalition was all about and and put whatever funds are necessary to close border and build a wall i am for that, put whatever stuff is necessary with respect to defense. i am all for that, and put whatever stuff is necessary in terms of energy, permitting and reopening the fossil fuel space oles and liquid -- spigots and liquid gold, to ddo it once that is the esspendin

essence of trump campaign we're still cooking up with tommy tuberville, joining me now. wonderful to see you, so, mr. trump will be at stock exchange, ringing the bell. we had a fabulous stock market rally since november 5, quite something, close to throw thousand dow points in a couple weeks. young emory cox may have briefed you on this, this the consumer confidence is soaring small business confidence is soaring, and even business round table ceo confidence is soaring. ale of this after november 5, what do you make of it sincer to tuberville. >> a new morning in america. looking forward to president trump ridging that bell -- ringing that bell, it has already started, i get calls from small businesses in the state of alabama, they are

so glad that the regulations and taxes the be adjusted. this administration with that climate hoax nonsince, they almost put people under and people are still trying to dig out, there is hope we see the light at the end of the tunnel, trump will be a blessing it is christmas, new things are coming for the american team. larry: it is christmas a great time, so christmas angels may be coming to new jersey to rescue that blue state from socialism but it could be more dangerous drones, i don't want to making any of it, senator tub artuberville. senator schumer tries to stack the relations board with mcfaris woman, but joe manchin and chris. >> end of the year, democrat

are trying to stuff their stocking with all they can get, judges, people on different boards, we were able to block this one. the national labor relations board right now is yield democrats, had she passed today she would have kept control with other 4 people onboard, for next two years, democrat would control that. they stepped in, and stepped up and said this is not right, we do not need to do this, they blocked here we'll have an opportunity this lady came twice to alabama to try to create a union at amazon and a union at mercedes benz and called foul on two elections, she is a true socialist communist. larry: i'm sorry she did not make the cut. and proud of joe manchin and christian cinema. we're late today, democrat

blocking a farm bill you want to help farmers, 30 seconds. >> our farmers are going out of, input cost to that i donjoe biden pushed on farmers is devastating, i get call after call, coach we're having to sell our farms we will lose 100 thousand this year alone, prices have tanked input costs are up, that is what big governmented to control the farms and move them to corporations they might have go the a foot in the door with this we have to fight back and president trump will help them. >> he will. senator tommy tuberville thank you, sir. >> quick break, looking for angels and drones for hugh hewittet. great radio hall of famer, and byron york i am kudlow we'll be right back.

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he can't keep up with his squad. so now we're his “squad”. what are kevin's plans for the fall? he's going to college. out of state, yeah. -yeah in the fall. change of plans, i've decided to stay local. oh excellent! oh that's great! why would i ever leave this? -aw! we will do anything to get him gaming again. you and kevin need to fix this internet situation. heard my name! i swear to god, kevin! -we told you to wait in the car. everyone in my old squad has xfinity. less lag, better gaming! i'm gonna need to charge you for three people. >> hugh hewitt and byron york. hugh i'm with you, we never disagree. but i get tax cuts in the first tranche of

reconciliation for heaven's sake, there may not be a second trawnch. tranche. >> preach larry, preach we have one listener, president-elect trump, he said make sure tax cuts are in there economy is forward looking small business is forward looking we need certainty to get second trump boom going preach. larry: you know byron, he ran -- it. the working class coalition of all tripes and colors -- stripes and colors, economy of number one, about take ohome pay and higher prices a tax cuts, you know tax-free cash tips and overtime, the heard and soul of mr. trump, he said it, i'm for getting border closed. but put it together.

there may not be a second bill. >> you are right. and among members of transition the top things to do have always been to fix the border and to make the tax cuts permanent and to get the deregulation machine going again. president realizes that he was elected because of the economy. and to fix the border, those are the things he was elected to to first. i,' agree on capitol hill you never know if you get another chance, if you have one chance to do something, take it. larry: hugh, like russian roulette, and the stakes are high, if they have first bill without tax bills, you don't know there will be a second bill. as we said, you may wind upsetting there sucking your thumb at end of december and the biggest tax hike in history under a republican administration. all hope willing gone

-- would begun that is too risk. >> i it is two things president-elect at maximum of his power li right now, if he wants to bring people to line it is right now, economy has to be booming if you are a republican could like we are, not sure about by ron, if we want republicans to win in 2026, the boom has to begin soon tax cuts have to be in there soon, to work their magic for election in 2026. so if they strike out on first go, they will not make it on the 6 go get it done now. >> and you know byron, mr. trump will use tariffs, highe is right to do so, you want to qu cushion them can tax cuts first. >> yes, theme of this transition is pro paredness to be ready, this is 6 ( second time trump has done this, they are getting ready to do things fast.

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