larry: i know not everybody agrees with me, but i say cut taxes first. that will grow the economy, and it will end biden-flati, on on the supply side. that's what i think. and then do all the rest of that stuff on the border, etc., and most important, we'll get to the liz macdonald. elizabeth: if you know what? you just took the whole show,

larry. merry christmas. that was great, larry. thank you so much. welcome to "the evening edit," i'm elizabeth macdonald. >> my confidence level to the economy of the united states has tremendously increased. >> would you make it $200 billion? to -- 200 billion investment. [laughter] >> he's a great negotiator. >> i did have dinner with tim cook. i had dinner with sort of almost all of them, and the rest are coming. in the first term, everybody was fighting me. in this term everybody wants to be my friend. elizabeth: the action this hour, ceos literally racing to meet with trump at mar-a-lago. ceos of amazon, google, netflix, apple, softbank all now with a new, reinvigorated, positive outlook for the u.s. economy under trump after the dark, chaotic years of biden. tonight, "shark tank" host kevin o'leary is here with the details

on that. also this story -- >> why won't the prime minister have the courage to come in here himself and put it the a confidence vote tonight? [applause] now we face troubling terror threats from a president who can see weakness coming from a mile away. the prime minister must if leave this job. elizabeth: canada is in chaos after trump's victory. that was conservative leader of canada saying for -- far-left prime minister justin trudeau has to go, he must step down. a majority of canadians also agree trudeau has to resign. tonight, rnc chair michael whatley on voters many canada and worldwide waking up, saying stop calling liberal, big, far-left politicians like trudeau progressive, they're not, they're regressive, totalitarian and authoritarian. michael agrees. plus, the debate on why new york judge juan merchan is holding on to the anti-trump law fare -- lawfare.

we've got trump's new counselor to the president, alina habba, fired up, ready to go the take on a case even democrats say is totally ridiculous. plus in this story -- >> "the des moines register" poll shows harris up 3 points among likely voters, a 7-point swing -- >> ann exemption everybody with "the des moines register", she's the gold standard. >> "the des moines register"-iowa poll puts trump behind. that's in a state that went to to him in both 2016 and 2020. elizabeth: turns out the media was totally wrong. they touted the iowa poll as the end of trump right before trump won a massive victory. tonight, new details on trump suing "the des moines register" and that pollster, ann seltzer, over, quote, brazen election interference. first, let's get to this story. the news coming in, trump's nominee for pentagon chief, pete hegseth, was back on capitol hill today to. democrat john fetterman will not rule out backing hegseth. he likes him.

and trump's hhs secretary nominee rfk jr. back on capitol hill too. aishah hasnie's got the details in washington with more. great to to see you again. >> reporter: elizabeth, good to see you with. rfk jr. just ducked into a meeting with senator john barrasso of wyoming. he is really having some back to back meetings today, nine in total. he started at 10 a.m., and he is still going. and so far he says it's going pretty well. watch. how are the meetings going? any comment? >> really productive. really good. >> reporter: really productive, really good, he says. and just got some photos of his meeting with senator tuberville earlier today. so far getting a pretty warm welcome among senate republicans, even those with a ton of questions about his stance on abortion, his stance on american agriculture. he just met with qop leader johe yet today, but those still that

have yet to have time with him have some questions. >> i want the talk to mr. kennedy about his abortion stance. he's all over the map. i don't know what's in his heart and what he really believes, because he's said so much stuff, some of which sounds like he's from outer space. >> reporter: and, elizabeth, kennedy made some news today by saying he will reach across the aisle and meet with senate democrats. of course, there are some that want to meet with him, but gop leader john thune revealed today there are also democrats that aren't willing to the meet with any of trump's nominees. elizabethsome. elizabeth: it's really interesting. aishah, thank you so much for staying on this story. we appreciate you. >> reporter: you got it. if. >> donald trump, let me just be very clear, donald trump is smarter than me, you and all the critics. you know how i know? because he has the white house, the senate, the house -- >> totally agree. >> -- supreme court, the popular

vote. he has a massive media ecosystem bigger than the mainstream built around him and for him and a religiously -- religious fervor in a political movement around him. this dude is a phenomena. he is the most powerful human on earth and in our lifetime, and we're still saying, well, how is this -- we look like idiots -- >> you're, you're totally right. elizabeth: yeah, that was cnn's van jones saying president trump is smarter than all of his critics, that he made the entire democrat party, democrat media, quote, look like idiots. senator bob with casey now says trump is the strongest gop candidate he has seen in his lifetime. joining us now, o'leary's ventures chair, we love kevin o'leary. ken, it's always great to see you -- kevin, let's get your reaction to that and also we've got ceos racing to meet with trump. amazon's ceo, net in flicks, apple, google. what do you think? >>st the all about the numbers.

he has a majority mandate until the midterms. he has -- this is a phenomenal platform for trump. everybody knows he's pro-business, but as far as those ceos, there's two things they care about. they know with certainty tax rates probably stay at 21% p. that's huge. versus 28, which is the other idea. but the other thing is deregulation and freedom of speech on social media that's going to really matter. so all of a sudden you want to suck up to trump in a very big way because of two reasons. he's got the power, he's got the mandate, he's got the reach, and no one's to going to touch him for two years. so everybody's showing up in mar-a-lago. i don't care if you're running a country or you're ceo of an s&p 500 company, you're sucking up, and there's a very important will be for it. reason for it. power. majority mandate, there's nothing like it i don't care what up country you're n. you've got to talk to the chief and find out what he's thinking

because this is a relationship guy. everybody knows that. and i think this mandate's going to be way better than the last one, a lot more stable and very good for business. i'm licking my own chops right now. these are good times. elizabeth: yeah, you look really happy. [laughter] let's get your reaction, victor davis hanson wrote, quote, never in u.s. history has a president-elect like trump been welcomed as the real president even before his inauguration, that there's a, quote, universally desperate hope in the and overseas that trump will put an end to the collective madness that happened under biden. trump's going to wipe out biden's economic mandates like, you know, getting rid of gas cars. how damaging was biden here? >> in certain sectors, and i would certainly say energy, he was very damaging. those policies didn't really make sense, and they did a tremendous amount of damage. and those -- if you look all around the world right now,

governments, you just talked about trudeau. he's on his way out in the next couple of weeks. he had similar protocols, and people just said they don't make sense. so what we want is when it affects the individual and when all of a sudden everything they do costs more and they can't make ends meet, people get, for lack of a better word, pissed off. and that's exactly what happened in america. it corrected itself very quickly, and now trump -- who's to sounding very rational. i mean, the amazing thing about trump 2.0, i don't care what sound bites you get, sounds good to me. i mean, i don't care who you are, he sounds pretty rational. he's really taking it to a new place. and, you know, i'm just saying you think about it, this is what the people wanted to hear. they gave him the mandate. he's delivering the mandate, and he's doing it really quickly. elizabeth: yeah. >> that's what's so incredible. elizabeth: you know, we do need the big trump tax cuts fast. trump has got to to get his tax

the cuts done. they're expiring next year. biden lost because of inflation and a flatlining economy. too much gdp if growth depended on government spending under biden. reagan's tax cuts didn't take effect until two years later, and that's when jobs took off under reagan. when you see that kind of debate going on in d.c., are you confident that the fed, that the government understands that to lower inflation you've got to get tax cuts, you've got to get the supply, the goods-producing part of the u.s. economy fired up and ready to to go because we have too much demand? >> let me tell you what they're saying in ceos' offices right now. they don't think the 15%'s going to get there, and look, i'd love to see it myself, but they're sure the existing 21% platform is going to stick. that's all they needed to hear. but the added bonus, the extra juice is the deregulation. the federal deregulation, marley on energy independence. i mean, that's fantastic.

elizabeth: you are wonderful too, kevin o'leary. merry christmas. gooded to see you again. >> take care. ♪ >> through the department of government efficiency, elon musk has been working very hard with various people including vivek, will go to the eliminate hundreds of billions of dollars in wasted fraud, and i can only tell you, they're finding things you wouldn't even believe. elizabeth: that was president trump saying elon musk, vivek ramaswamy, they're finding way more government waste, you won't even believe. trump said doge are become potentially a manhattan project of our time. joining us now, americans for tax reform president grover norquist. your reaction to that, because even democrats like ro khanna and senator bernie sanders support doge. >> i think it's going to be extremely helpful. there are some -- there's some spending that bernie sanders might disagree with. we'll add that to the pile.

that doesn't slow us down in cutting all the things that bernie likes. there's a real opportunity here not only because elon and vivek are very serious, hard working men who are taking a look at something that hasn't gotten much attention over the years, but they can now also with, and, with twitter make sure that anything they find is seen by millions and tens of millions. we also have the republican house and senate which can investigate the bureaucracy through asking, demanding that they get them the documents to take a look at stuff, to have hearings. there's a two-front war here that the bureaucracy's got to defend against, both doge and a republican houses and senate doing serious investigations. elizabeth: interesting. we had republican congresswoman victoria spartz if quitting all committees to work on doge. they can come up with more than

$2 trillion in inflationary spending to to cut to off set -- offset the tax cuts that trump needs to get going. you know, watchdogs at open the books say president biden will leave office having lost $986 billion in improper payments. that's the worst for any president in a generation. >> yes. if we can stop that overspending and the wasteful spending where they don't check the money as it goes out, that's a huge amount of savings. i do wish the congresswoman would think about that, the most important thing a congressman or woman could do so the use those congressional committees to investigate and dig into the bureaucracy so that when vivek and elon musk find things or are looking for things, they can't subpoena documents. congress can. elizabeth: interesting. >> and victoria spartz could do a lot of that on committee. that's the work of a congressman. elizabeth: grover nor if quist, love it when you bring the details. good to see you again, my

friend. >> good to be with you. >> the polls that she produces for "the des moines register" in iowa, specifically the final iowa poll she does before each major election, her polls are known for their up uncanny predictive accuracy. elizabeth: really? uncanny accuracy, really? yet another thing the media was wrong about this, trump is now suing the des moines register and pollster ann seltzer for, quote, election interference. their poll just three days before the election wildly overstated kamala's lead over trump in iowa. coming up, podcast host ben ferguson has a lot to say ability thissed and -- and the media with running with that. new details of president trump hammering judge juan merchan for not tossing out the manhattan d.a.'s, quote, lawfare against trump that even democrats privately say was a ridiculous case. counselor to president-elect trump alina habba is ready to take that on. also this news tonight --

>> in this doesn't have any, this decade, there's not any troops dying anywhere in the world. i said i'd abide by the jury decision. i will do that, and i will not pardon him. we're also securing our border: elizabeth: joe biden caught in yet another whopping lie. plus, we've got this story for you. >> we'll have a peaceful transfer of power here in america. >> we will engage in a peaceful transfer of power. >> we believed in the peaceful transfer of power. elizabeth: it looks like they don't. president biden and the democrats, they promised a smooth, peaceful transition, but biden and his team is now accused of sabotaging trump. biden is now selling off border wall materials among other things so trump cannot build a border wall. tonight, find out about the new texas hold 'em strategy. texas outpokerring biden to get that wall material back for trump. but first, canada's justin trudeau is teetering on the brink. calls grow for him to get out,

resign. eight out of ten canadians say that. they say it's time for trudeau to go. this after true coe fought -- trudeau fought with trump. rnc chair michael what thely will take this on -- whatley will take this on next. >> why won't the prime minister have the courage to come in here, present it himself and put it for a confidence vote tonight? [applause] now we face troubling tariff threats from a president who can see weakness coming from a mile away. the prime minister must leave this job. ♪ progressive makes it easy to save with a quick commercial auto quote online. so you can get back to your monster to-do list. -really? -get a quote

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will he put the country ahead of his pension and vote for a carbon tax election now. [applause] elizabeth: okay. trump's victory has canada in chaos. that was canada's conservative leader slamming far-left prime minister justin trudeau saying trudeau's got to go, he should resign, step down immediately. he's too weak. joining us now, rnc chair michael whatley. mike, it's a pleasure seeing you again. thanks for spending the time with us tonight. what do you make of this? let's go through it. trump's trudeau's -- excuse me, trudeau's rating and support has collapsed in the polls. canada's currency is now at a 4-year low against the u.s. dollar, and a lot of people in canada are saying trudeau, he's authoritarian, totalitarian. what do you think? >> look, donald trump wants to have allies both north of our borders and south of our borders. we would love to be in a position on day one to count canada and mexico as strong u.s.

allies. and in order to do that, he has made it very clear we are going to have fair trade, and we are going to have strong borders. and if both of those countries are going to step up and acknowledge that that's the conditions to have a great relationship with us, then we're going to do everything we can to help those countries succeed. what we have seen all across the world are leaders who are coming and talking to donald trump, who are calling donald trump, who are meeting with donald trump because they know that he is coming and that america is going to be strong. we are going to stand up to the world and defend our allies, and we are going to punish our enemies, and we really, truly want allies in the western hemisphere and around the world. elizabeth: you know, it's a liberal and neo-liberalism farce not understanding world history that any nation only succeeds with strong borders. but trudeau attacked trump and his demands for a 25% tariff saying you've to got to stop the border crisis coming in from the

north, record or illegal crossings there. what do you make of trudeau's finance minister resigning? she was leading canada's response to trump. trump calls her behavior, quote, toxic. she did send a blistering letter saying trump -- excuse me, justin trudeau is weak against trump. >> well, look, i think that right now what we want to see is a strong, stable canada. and president trump's conditions for us to have a great relationship with canada is not a heavy lift. we need canada to understand that america is going to be strong, and we want hem to be partners. and so -- them to be partners. so everybody in canada should understand at this point in time very simple conditions that president trump has put on the table. we want a strong border, we want a strong trading relationship, and we want to be allies with canada. elizabeth: michael whatley, a pleasure seeing you. thanks for joining us. it's good to see you. >> yes, ma'am. take care. >> the administration is trying

to sell it for 5 cents on the dollar knowing that we're getting ready to put it up. and what they're doing is really an act -- it's almost, it's almost a criminal act. elizabeth: so much for joe biden's promise of a peaceful transition. biden and his team now accused of sabotaging trump, selling off trump's border wall materials. tonight new details on texas' new strategy to foil biden, get them back with. it's texas hold 'em right now. also tonight this story -- >> it shows kamala harris ahead of donald trump by 3 points in iowa. and the reason this is consequential to our psyche is that if this is accurate, and if anybody is accurate it's likely to be ann setlezzer and the iowa poll, if this is accurate, this implies that harris might be winning iowa. elizabeth: consequential to whose psyche? what are you talking about? trump trying to hold pollsters accountable, trump just sued "the des moines register" and

pollster ann seltzer for their wildly off-base poll in iowa just three days before the election. claiming that trump was going to lose. he didn't. he's been winning iowa. podcast host ben ferguson here on that this and the media's october surprise that wasn't. but first, new york judge juan merchan defies the supreme court and reaffirmed trump's presidential immunity. juan merchan clinging to a new york lawfare case that democrats privately say is absurd and off the wall. former trump attorney, newly-appointed counselor to president-elect trump, iowa arena habba is fired up, ready to go. please stay with us. >> it's the time to stop the lies, stop the hoaxes, stop the smears, stop the lawfare and the fake lawsuits against me. ♪ ♪

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toss out manhattan d.a. bragg's case against trump. the judge denied trump's claim of presidential immunity9 that the supreme court had upheld. fox news' eric shawn is live in new york city with more on this story. eric, good to see you. >> reporter: yeah, good evening. president trump calls this decision illegal, psychotic, corrupt. new york state judge juan merchan ruling presidential immunity does not apply to the defendant in this case and says he will not scuttle trump's conviction. >> he said, first of all, this was not official conduct, but even if it was official conduct, it wasn't protected. and even if it was protected and some evidence came in that shouldn't have come in, it was all harmless error. >> reporter: the supreme court has given broad immunity for official presidential actions. but merchan says trump's actions that led to his conviction on 34 counts of falsifying business records for hiding $130,000 in payments to adult film actress stormy daniels, he said that had

nothing to do with his presidential duties. merchan writing, quote: the president himself may speak in his unofficial capacity as a candidate or party leader, and certainly he can do so in his private capacity as well. my argument that private conduct transforms into official conduct, he says, is without merit. the jurors did hear testimony that that trump met the oval office when he was president with his then-lawyer, michael cohen, about reimbursing cohen for paying stormy. well, that's not an official act, ruled merchan. he also ruled that trump's tweets like this one deriding michael cohen's abilities as a lawyer, well, those weren't official acts either. trump posted his response saying in markets quote: merchan, who is a radical partisan, wrote an opinion that is knowingly unlawful, goes against our constitution and if allowed to stand, he said, would be the end of the presidency as we know it. trump's lawyers are likely to appeal this decision. you know, they've also today written to judge merchan in a

heavily-redacted document that was released alleging that a juror conducted some type of misconduct during the trial. we don't yet know what that is. as for sentencing, well, the president-elect's sentencing is on hold until after he leaves the white house unless the case is totally dismissed. liz, back to to you. elizabeth: great reporting, eric shawn. thank you so much. joining us now, incoming counselor to president-elect trump, alina habba. we love talking to you, it's wonderful to see you engen. thank you so much for taking the time to be with us tonight. do you have any more details on the alleged misconduct by the juror in this case? >> i do. as part of, you know, obviously i'm part of the team, but those not ones that i am willing to share at this point. what i can tell you is it's definitely egregious despite the redactions and without getting into detail, it is not a questionable thing. there was misconduct by the jurors, and it would have anything thrown out o. now, one

thing we are learning as you've delicately say but i will say more directly, judge merchan's description of what happened and what falls under the supreme court's decision is so flawed and egregious, it's so ridiculous. he is completely disregarding the supreme court of the united states, the highest court that said that there is presidential immunity for official acts. and now he is trying to carve out in any way he can to preserve face and say that this trial was not a complete hoax, was not a complete disaster, an evidentiary disaster, and now we know there were issues with the jury being taint thatted. so, you know, this is -- tainted. this is where we are. and this is where we've been for three and a half years and, frankly, why we won. elizabeth: alina, we've got alleges of a juror's misconduct in the case -- allegations. tell us how this case is ripe for appeal. legal experts have told us there are a lot of constitutional violations. the jury wrongly heard evidence that was protected by

presidential immunity, the supreme court upheld, by purpose's conversations with hope hicks. the judge delayed sentencing indefinitely, that's clearly a due process right to a speedy trial violation. and if now juror misconduct, it sounds like that juror was tainted, there could have been bias here. >> yeah. let's add some to that. statute of limitations which before they brought this we knew was passed. this case was passed up by cy sanction and then brought again. -- cy vance. the white house was coordinating and sent their own guy in to work for the new york d.a. from the doj. how about that? how about selective prosecution? election interference? tying this man up in a hoax case during an election cycle when he should have been campaigning. how about all of the things you said? but this is where we have problems. the judge should have recused. we've said it time and time again. we have one thing standing right now before all the appeals we will take on this ridiculous decisioned today, and that is

the motion to dismiss that this judge ghei us leave to file -- gave us leave to file. i don't have much hope in judge merchan, but we do have pending motions. go ahead, sorry. elizabeth: senator chuck grassley, excuse me, has a said this is really scary, that all americans right or left, it's not -- they're saying, he's saying take poll tings out of it. when -- politics out of it. when you see the lawfare abuses, it could happen to you. it could happen to to viewers. that's' why millennial voters, we heard, were so scared about what the justice department and cases like d.a. bragg brought, they fear it could happen to them personally. this was a books and records misdemeanor like a parking ticket, but it got ramped up into with 34 felonies. that's terrifying for american judicial system. final word: >> yeah. yes. and he was not there. he was in the white house as president. these are acts that were done by an accounting team at the trump organization. and there is so many uncanny things happening here.

and the american people are afraid, and they should be afraid but not anymore, because i can assure you that when we go in and this administration gets to work, it will be top of mind to fix this lawfare and prosecution against a political opponent or any american. it should not happen. elizabeth: okay. alina habba, thank you so much. to recap the breaking news at the top of this segment, a juror is accused of misconduct in d.a., manhattan d.a. bragg's case against donald trump. we're going to stay on that story. thank you so much, alina. texas is playing poker and playing poker hard with biden. a new texas hold 'em strategy. texas officials now say they will buy and hold on to border wall materials biden is trying to auction off for only cents on the dollar. hold on to them until trump takes over to do the border wall. joining us now from house judiciary, congressman darrell issa. it's great to see you again, congressman. merry christmas. >> merry christmas. elizabeth: lieutenant governor dan patrick said, quote, i will

bid on all of that wall material. we will buy it in texas, give it to trump. we've got a billion bucks to do that. what do you think? >> well, i think it's exactly the right thing, keep the american taxpayer from being ripped off. if these sell for ten cents on the dollar or less and then we have to buy them back at full price and wait for them, it will really diminish the ability to comply with the original purchase and the original law which biden spent four years ignoring. so is, yes, it's the right thing to do. i'm glad that a governor -- not my governor in california, but a golf in this country -- governor in this country has stood up and say they'll do the right thing. and as the lieutenant governor said, he's got a billion dollars, i suspect he'll be the high bidder. elizabeth: it is unfair that taxpayers shelled out money for the first go-around and now texas state taxpayers are going to have to pay a billion, whatever it is, for the wall. it's just so wrong. it shows the reckless, chaotic years of biden and his team.

what do you make of this news that trump and his team are reaching out to mexico and el salvador to get them to take deportations of illegal aliens? can they get that done? now we see north dakota police say they need help from biden because serious criminal activity involving the venezuelan tren de aragua gang now in north dakota. that's the 17th state to report tren de aragua gang crime. >> well, i met with the ambassador from mexico today in my office, and he clearly has gotten the message both by president trump meeting with his president, but also by what the president said he'll do if he doesn't get compliance. and when i say compliance, compliance with international law. compliance with agreements that were made that have simply been ignored. one quick example is people fly into airports in mexico without visas either from mexico or the united states, and under the biden administration they've let them through. well,st it's been pretty clear

that we will not take those people and we'll hold mexico accountable that they have to return them pursuant to the law. and the mexican ambassador clearly understood that, and it won't be january 20th, but i suspect that'll begin even before the president is sworn in because they don't want to cross this president. elizabeth: more news from congressman issa, mexico is open to taking deportations. good news from congressman issa. good to see you, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> i'm not supposed to take any questions, but go ahead. >> mr. president, on afghanista- >> i'm not going to answer afghanistan. >> [inaudible] and in particular -- >> you guys are -- i'm not supposed to be answering all these questions. i'm supposed to leave. i'm supposed to stop and walk out of the room here. elizabeth: when biden was not dodging the press, he was misleading them. coming up, joe biden caught in another big whopper. find out about what as the media goes after trump who's already doing hour-long press conferences with reporters on

policies, pressers that biden avoided for years. but first, this: >> you obviously have a sterling reputation for your ability to poll iowa. you've been doing it for a long time. >> i don't see how anybody would look at those numbers and the history in iowa and think that these numbers could have been foretold. elizabeth: yeah, well, we all remember that. days before the election "the des moines register" and pollster ann seltzer made it seem like kamala harris was going to win in a landslide, beat trump. trump's now suing them for, quote, election interference. ben ferguson coming up on the details about that poll that was off, wait for it, by 16 points. but first, let's check in with our friends, the dynamic duo, dagen and charlie hurt, to see what they've got coming up on "the bottom line." charlie: yeah, that's right. we have got a great show. senator james lankford on why democrats are freaking out over the doge push to to streamline the federal government and congressman pete sessions on

rampant fraud and corruption in the federal covid spending. dagen: dana loesch and stacy washington together on kamala harris' speech, this is her fight tour. the only people fighting are kamala's probably fight with herself in the bathroom mirror over what went wrong. top of the hour. ♪ ♪ liberty mutual customized my car insurance so i saved hundreds. with the money i saved i thought i'd get a wax figure of myself. cool right? look at this craftmanship. i mean they even got my nostrils right. it's just nice to know that years after i'm gone this guy will be standing the test of ti... he's melting! oh jeez... nooo... oh gaa... only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪

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elizabeth: welcome back. this news, president trump just sued iowa's des moines register newspaper, its parent gannett and a top tollster, ann seltzer -- pollster -- for, quote, brazen election interference on what's being called their wildly-wrong and way after-off poll -- way-off poll claiming trump was going to lose bigtime to kamala in iowa. they were wrong. let's bring in ben ferguson. ben, what do you make of this? it was off by a swing of 16 points, but the media like msnbc , cnn, iowa chel mad dow, they went full tilt saying trump's going to lose. >> yeah, you lie to the voters to try to get people not to show up the vote that maybe thought, well, it's a lost cause now. and it also is to inspire democrats across the country to hurry up and vote. this is not polling, this is

election interference -- elizabeth: but why? was it a lie or just wrong polling? >> look, i've seen bad polling. i've worked a couple presidential campaigns, several senate, and i've never seen a poll has supposed to be as reputable as this pollster that's 16 points off. have i seen 5 points off? sure. 6 points, maybe, but 16? i don't buy it for a second. and i think what you're going to find out here is donald trump's going to go all in, full tilt on this and say show me how you really got this. were you lying to the voters to try to manipulate the election. and, look, i think this is a moment as well for those that claim to be journalists. you're not going to get away with this crap with donald trump in the next four years. he is going to play offense, and the american people don't the trust the media at the same time either to, so i think it's a lot to his advantage right now. elizabeth: yeah. he's citing the iowa state consumer fraud act, and trump won in 2016 and 2020. he won iowa in those years. >> yeah. elizabeth: what do you make of this, because this is days after

abc news had to pay trump $15 million plus a million bucks in legal fees to settle a defamation case after anchor george stephanopoulos repeatedly, at least eight times at one point, falsely accused trump of rape on camera. >> yeah. elizabeth: so what do you make of this this? >> again, this is where it's time to go on offense and hold people accountable in the media that aren't actually reporting the facts, but are directly lying to the american people. you look at the hill newspaper, and it said someone said, quote, it should not be seen as normal or powerful elected officials to wage legal campaigns against members of the press and their employers. that's the the executive director for the society of professional journalists said to "the hill," and i'm laughing. it shouldn't be normal for members of the press to lie about the former president of the united states of america raping someone. and if you do do that, you deserve to have the, consequences of having to pay out massive settlements just like this. and to be clear, the president

is not bullying anyone. what donald trump is doing is saying i'm not going to allow you to lie about me to the american people any longer, and when you do lie, i will come after you, and i will use the laws of the land to protect myself and to protect what is free speech p. you don't have the right the to go out there and lie about donald trump or any other elected official, and it's long overdue for the somebody in the republican movement to stand up like this. i say good on president trump for doing this. elizabeth: all right. ben ferguson, thanks for joining us. it's great to see you. >> good to see you, as always. elizabeth: this story coming up, president joe biden was caught in yet another lie. at in this point, does he realize he's doing that? find out about his latest fib coming up. ♪ >> the ban on transgender americans, transgender americane world. cheer for muslim athletes like karimal a ya --

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>> second hanukkah since horrors of october 7 over a thousand slaughtered, hundreds taking hostage, unspeak able sexual violence and so much more, i have gotten over a hundred

hostages out. elizabeth: joe biden getting criticized for falsely claiming at white house hanukkah reception he personally freed a hundred hostages from hamas in gaza. roger williams, is here. congressman we appreciate you. so biden is trying to take credit for 105 hostages released as part of ceasefire agreement between hamas and israel. lawmakers are slamming biden saying your weakness is responsible for why they are still held captive. >> it is right, his weakness show the since he has been president, one of reasons we have an economy not working and we don't have our standing in the world right now is his weakness. they see how he says things and what he says, they see a weak president. fortunately now donald trump seems to be the president

running the world, and we're on a path to get our country back in order to tell the truth and people can rely on us and our friends can trust us. elizabeth: chairman, like a resit, we have news coming in that could move stock market and bond market. biden was accused of misleading and creating number of jobs he created, bank of philadelphia recording that second quarter job numbers were ingreated. job growth was lower in half of the nation in 25 states than what bls said, instead of more 100% gain it was a job loss. what do you make of that? >> i'm not surprised, they made the numbers look like they wanted them to look like. the economy has not been good, i am in the car, i have been in it for pe 57 years, the economy is struggling, we see mean

people getting excited, especially main street america with donald trump coming back, we will have tax cuts and cut regulations and goat our border in line and become american and get our entrepreneurship work, not demean people are in making profits. elizabeth: talk to us about small businesses, they are the net job creators for this nation. when you talk about trump tax cuts it is volatility am for their survival. can the trump tax cuts get pushed through immediately? >> i think so, 75% of workforce of the payroll is small businesses. and they are waiting now for the things that we have talked about. 100% expensing, all tax cuts of 2017 make them permanent. it will not take long for the economy to get going again, people will get ready

to go, banks will have fewer regulations our economy will go quickly, main street is ready for it and hire people and put people on payroll, it won't take long to get going, then we're empowering main street. elizabeth: interesting, getting rid of those crazy biden mandates like we can only buy electric cars, and get rid of gas cars. >> that is horrible, i'm in the car, the ev market is not a market it was promoted by the other side, the big three went for it we're going to do away with that market from a stand point of getting rebates, let's let them compete like everything el. elizabeth: chairman you are a brig of fresh -- breath of fresh air, thank you, now to now buddies dagen and charlie, merry christmas. dagen: merry christmas. elizabeth: you too.

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