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i'm elizabeth macdonald. ♪ >> i'm not just maga. i'm gothic maga. liz: president trump, elon musk, vivek ramaswamy, doge and conservative republicans look like it looks like they can claim their first victory. they reportedly just stopped d.c.'s massive inflationary continuing resolution spending bill, loaded and congressman andy biggs could not be more excited. he's here and moments to react and also tonight, this story. >> you caused all this money to go to illegal immigrants. you are going to be held accountable for it. >> it's your own fault, because you didn't have the money. can you do the job, mr. brandon johnson and it's looking like you can't do the job.

>> can we please restore order? liz: we've got the action this hour, voters were ejected, ordered to leave chicago city hall, this is after a protest there and now working class minority voters in chicago outraged chicago's democrat socialist mayor just won. he got massive new tax hikes to help for spending on illegal migrants that biden let explode into the united states. tonight, chicago resident p rae easley was at the meeting and will tell us what happened because biden's border crisis is hitting everybody. also we're on this story. >> do you guys deserve a pay raise? >> what about the media. >> we're not paid by public money. >> i know you're not but half of your listeners aren't there and you're still getting the same paycheck? liz: whoa we've never seen that before top democrat senator dick durbin on camera making fun of the ratings drop at cnn.

also, nbc is still down about 50% after trump won, but they're doubling down on attacking trump. tonight, leo terrell is here to spend on that and what watchdogs call a growing media credibility crisis. plus this story. >> i've never been that impressed with his political operation. >> biden's operation? >> yeah, i'm not. >> there are some people who are unhappy. it didn't sound like joe biden to me. >> i think it's a legitimate question, to say, is this an episode or is this a condition? liz: okay, this news coming in the blood feud is getting worse between biden and nancy pelosi. president biden just took brand new shots at former speaker pelosi after she forced him out of the race but he's hitting at her biggest weakness. tonight we'll show you what's going on but first let's get right to this. we've got breaking news. president trump, elon musk, and

doge and vivek ramaswamy and conservatives, did they just score a big win reports coming in, congress may now pull its massively inflationary spending bill as president trump just put out a statement slamming all of the pork spending. look whose here fox news senior national correspondent chad pergram was the first to break the news on this. chad, thank you so much for joining us live from capitol hill. can you tell us what's going on now? reporter: good afternoon, liz. we just got a statement here. it's on j.d. vance's twitter feed. his x feed and this is a trump/vance statement they want a new spending bill here. they want a debt sealing increase in the bill. they also oppose the congressional pay raise. they want a streamlined bill, something not as big, something that keeps the government open but they also want disaster relief after the hurricanes. there was about $110 billion in that bill for disaster relief after helene and also milton. they may pull the bill, a post on x by elon musk sent shockwaves through the capitol.

house republicans were trying to see if they have the votes to pass the bill. musk posted anyone who votes yes should lose in two years, and lawmakers are scrambling. >> tweets from musk, is that complicated this? >> well, i mean, i think that there's always a lot of interest in what's happening up here, and -- >> this is more than interest. they are telling people if they vote yes they should be voted out. >> the social media world is part of our politics, and i think members have to expect that and there is a lot of hard votes in the next couple of years. reporter: now a member of the house republican leadership told fox that musk "is not helping." the lawmaker added that musk has bigger fish to fry than picking a fight with house republicans. the bill bled support from the gop when asked how many democrats the gop feeds to pass the bill, a senior aid replied, "a lot." lawmakers who had hurricanes devastate their districts are torn.

>> the fact is is that look, this is a sandwich. i don't know how else to say that. we're forced into this position. they did this because they knew it would put members in this position to support it. reporter: now, some republicans could bauk and vote against mike johnson january 3rd. he can only lose one vote and still win the speakers race. republicans hope things be better under johnson, but this play went south. government funding expires saturday. liz? liz: chad pergram great reporting thank you so much. we appreciate you very much. let's welcome to the show for more from house judiciary and oversight, arizona congressman andy biggs. what exactly is going on here? are the trump tax cuts, are they getting embroiled in these spending fights? >> well they aren't related to this at all, liz. those are going to be, i don't mean questionable, they are going to be discussed and promoted through the reconciliation process, which is a completely different process from where we sit now.

this is a short-term omnibus bill that the speaker put together that just hemorrhaged support. nobody liked it. nobody wanted it, but when we get to the tax package, that's a different animal all together. we will have to pass a budget and then reconcile that budget with a special piece of legislation to deal with taxes and also energy and several other issues. liz: got it but here is the problem. i mean, let me back up. congresswoman nancy mace tweeted out this last bill was 21 pages. the former one. the latest one is nearly 1,600 pages. more taxpayer dollars flushed down the drain. trump is trying to control inflation. fed researchers already said inflationary government spending fuels inflation, so the way to stop it is to as larry has been all over this , reporting it, trump has a plan to stop inflation. he needs to get the tax cuts

done. so the fear is that all these spending fights in d.c. are going to swamp the push to get trump's tax cuts done because as you just pointed out, they have to do the budget spending first and then the trump tax cuts. the economy needs a trump tax cut, period. >> well amen to that and i support the tax cuts going into the first reconciliation bill. i think that's the wise way to do it, with the border, with the energy, and do that, but what happened here is the speaker, in my opinion, miss played this and this should, this spending package should have been done and completed months ago, right? but they didn't do that. so the speaker's basically tried to buy everybody in the world off with this bill, which became instead of a cr, it became an omnibus bill and you had all of this stuff in there including the much maligned pay raise for congress who doesn't deserve it because we're ones that have

failed to get the budget done the way we're supposed to, so the reality is the government will have a lapse in spending which i'm actually okay with for a couple of weeks. if they did it for a couple weeks, but they aren't going to do that. the speaker said he's never doing that so he's boxed himself in and lost leverage but when we get to the reconciliation package, that's where we have to get together and everyone, i think, everyone will, we've been having meetings on that to deal with some of that, and i think we're going to actually be able to get all of the three priorities that president trump iterated, we're talking border, the tax relief, and energy. those are all necessary. liz: he's got a mandate, got it. congressman thank you so much, andy biggs thank you so much for joining us good to see you. >> my pleasure, liz, thanks. >> look at what is happening. every time there is substantive stuff to talk about in a world

of politics, donald trump's name is the headline instead of president joe biden. you're lost. the democrats you lost. you've got your ass kicked, in every way imaginable. liz: that was steven a. smith firing back at critics saying democrats, deal with it you lost. look whose here former labor secretary nominee economic pro author andy pudzer, former ceo. andy so we've got this dumpster fire the pork spending bill and the continuing resolution. it looks like elon musk is going to try to stop it. are you worried this fight over spending will tangle up trump's tax cuts? >> well i sure hope it doesn't tangle up the tax cuts because as you just mentioned they are essential and i can't imagine the republicans in any reality would allow the current trump tax cuts to expire. the last four years we've had over $4 trillion in revenue each

fiscal year, each year of the biden presidency, this last year we had almost 5 trillion in revenue. this is the trump tax cuts have been huge for revenue. we don't have a revenue problem. we have a spending problem. we need to get these tax cuts passed and we need to cut our spending. liz: so here is the thing. we know the dow was down more than 1,100 points. we haven't seen 10 days straight of dow drops in 50 years, so we know the fed is now hawkish on inflation, talking two rate cuts, not four for next year. they just cut by another quarter point, so there's real concern that trump needs to get his growth agenda going. we have a new, show them the marquette poll. trump just hit a record high in the marquette poll. biden just hit a record low. trump wants to cut the budgets deficit to just 3% of gdp. boost gdp growth, through deregulation, increase daily oil production by 3 million barrels a day, impose tariffs, get manufacturing going, plus tax cuts. ramp up supply of goods and

production. are the republicans getting the message? republicans. >> i hope they are getting it. look we've got an incredible problem in this country and we need this plan of donald trump and his economic advisors to come through. we've got over the last 12 months our federal deficit has been the largest ever outside of a war or a national emergency. interest alone on the debt right now is $1.1 trillion. that's more than our entire federal deficit was in 2019. we had a deficit last year of 1.8 trillion. this spending can't continue. we need growth. we need tax cuts. we need spending cuts. we need to get on track and trump has got the plan. the republicans better get on board. liz: always great to have you on thank you so much. >> thanks elizabeth. same here. >> biological males can't compete against biological females.

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$60 million to settle trump's deaf immigration suit after the abc host repeated false claims. tonight attorney leo terrell here to react on what watchdogs call the growing media credibility crisis plus this story. >> i've never been that impressed with his political operation. >> biden's operation? >> yeah, i'm not. i just haven't been. >> i think it's a legitimate question to say, is this an episode or is this a condition? liz: okay, after speaker pelosi forced biden out of the race, and just basically took public shots at biden in the process, now president biden is doing payback. tonight we have the sound of president biden going afterrer speaker pelosi's biggest vulnerability. it is her own credibility crisis but first, antifa protesters forced chicago citizens to be removed from a chicago city hall meeting. this is also a meeting about

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liz: a lot of chaos. chicago residents were told to leave a chicago city council meeting, antifa protesters reportedly disrupted that meeting. chicago voters are seriously outraged far left democrats. chicago's socialist mayor, brandon johnson, put illegal aliens ahead of them. let's welcome to the show chicago resident p rae easley. lovely, wonderful to have you back on. tell us exactly what happened. what exactly happened at that meeting? >> we were there to listen to the public comments and see how they were going to vote for the budget and antifa just began streaming and yelling and pulling out signs and threatening people and belittling people. it was horrible so because they made it such a chaotic moment they cleared gallery and everyone had to make sure there were no more signs and we were

able to come back by then they had already started the meeting. liz: so what did antifa want? because you guys are trying to stand up to democrat socialist mayor johnson yesterday. we're hearing he just got this tax hike of $165 million in new taxes and fees on the backs of working families, so what did antifa want? >> they wanted to silence americans. you know, they are calling us xenophobes, saying we're racist but just because you're pro-american doesn't make you a bad person. it means that you have high self-esteem and you're invested in yourself, your family and future. they don't like this country but that doesn't give them the right to take our right to be heard away from us. i don't think the mayor was fair, and dismissing everyone because antifa didn't know how to act. liz: so now, chicago voters have to deal with a mass massive $165 million in new tax hikes, so biden's border crisis

is hitting everybody in their wallets with tax and fees and now, crime. we reported on crime. what do you make of the story that police just arrested 14 people at an aurora, colorado apartment complex taken over in a home invasion reportedly the venezuel venezuelan organict this complex, people were found tortured, tied up, stabbed, pistol-whipped so they are in 17 states so what do you make of that story? >> it's happening right here in the city of chicago on the south side. we keep saying these things are happening and they keep gaslighting us telling us it's not happening, and the fact we're even mentioning it makes us a part of some racist conspiracy theory. the fact of the matter is americans don't deserve this invasion. this is the united states of america. we have the greatest military in the world, the toughest people in the world and i don't understand how our president allowed an open border to come

all the way to us here in chicago when we have a multi-billion dollar budget to stop this , but thankfully president trump is going to be back in office and tom homan said that chicago will be ground zero and we can't wait to receive that. liz: for deportations, thank you so much good to see you again. >> thank you. >> do you guys deserve a pay raise? >> what about the media? think about that. >> we're not paid by public money. >> i know but half of your listeners aren't there and you're still getting the same paycheck what's going on? liz: wow for the first time a senator, a democrat no less, senator dick durbin on camera mocked and made fun of cnn big drop in ratings after trump won. msnbc is down too. we'll play the full sound there. also, reports coming in variety is saying abc anchor george stephanopoulos may quit early next year. he's outraged abc, shelled out and paid out a big $16 million to trump to settle a defamation

suit that said george stephanopoulos defamed trump on camera. next, attorney leo terrell to react to both stories and the media credibility crisis plus this. >> why don't you take a position on transgender biological males competing against females. you just told me it wasn't fair. >> the federal standard is one that we would work with you on if you wish to work on it. >> why don't you do it on your own? liz: okay we've got more of the outrage from senators over the ncaa's president suggesting the own us is on women athletes to use other facilities if they do not like biological males in their locker rooms? i'll get you that update but first, nancy pelosi kicked him out of the race. now biden is fighting back you'll hear the latest shot in the biden pelosi growing blood feud. senator ron johnson here to react to what's going on coming

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>> i feel i have to do this. i shouldn't really be the one to do it. it should have been the justice department or somebody else, but i have to do it. of course a lot of money to do it, but we have to straighten out. our press is very corrupt. this was stunning to me and absolutely a gut punch to anybody that works at a major media company, because i think it does set, it sets a precedent that is going to be very difficult, going to be very difficult to get out from under potentially. i just think the risk of losing this suit was 5%. >> for abc. liz: okay that was president trump talking about how he has

to hold a liberal media accountable for their false attacks and that was nbc chuck todd on george stephanopoulos just costing abc $16 million total paid to trump because george stephanopoulos is accused of defaming trump on air multiple times and chuck todd saying that's "a gut punch" for all of media. let's welcome back fox news contributor civil rights attorney leo terrell. great to have you on leo. can you talk to us about how you see this? what do you think? media watchdogs keep talking about a media credibility crisis. >> they have a media credibility problem liz because let's be very clear. george stephanopoulos did not tell the truth. he lied about a fact that could not be proven. he accused president trump of being convicted of rape. there's not a court case, a civil case, whatsoever to make that statement. he did it to hurt president trump to defame president trump and those abc attorneys decided four days before the deposition

he would have to tell the truth under oath he had no evidence whatsoever. chuck todd is shedding crocodile tears. do you know why? as a lawyer for 35 years? this was a slam dunk case. george stephanopoulos is useless. he has no credibility, liz, to ever interview donald j. trump or any member of the white house. liz: we've got variety, old school variety, really good sources, is reportedly saying george stephanopoulos may not renew his contract early next year. we're seeing abc parent disney want to put this behind them that new york post is reporting too based on anonymous abc sources george stephanopoulos is humiliated, furious, upset. especially because abc had to apologize. one of the sources said, "it's shear level embarrassment what happened." people are furious about what happened. it's also reporting that george stephanopolos defiant and if he is because he deactivated his

twitter account. >> well, can someone tell george stephanopoulos that he used public airwaves and he lied? he did not tell the truth? if he's frustrated, disappointed, so what? because he got caught not telling the truth. those abc lawyers knew for a fact that he was in trouble if he had to take that deposition and also, liz, the collateral damage. the other people involved in promoting this big lie, so let me be very clear. trump stated it very well. look out fake news media. if you l lie on the president, first amendment, freedom of the press will not protect you. lying is not protected when it's intentional with malice. liz: he said multiple times, in that interview with representative nancy mace he was found liable for rape. he was not. that lie has gone out into the , you know, echosphere of the media in new york city and d.c. and throughout msnbc, all

the people watching think that happened it didn't. it never happened. now democrat senator dick durbin, he was talking about congress giving themselves another raise but in the process he slammed cnn. cnn is seeing their ratings drop by about 50%. msnbc is seeing 50% to 60% drop. watch what happened. >> members are giving themselves a pay raise. do you deserve a pay raise? >> that's news to me. it's good news. what has it been, 10 years or 14 years and no change at all? i think it's about time something is done. >> you support? >> well i don't know what it is. >> but i mean, people are looking at the performance and saying why should we give them the money? >> what about the media? >> we're not paid by public money. >> i know but half of your listeners aren't there and you're still getting the same paycheck, what's going on? liz: we've never seen that

before any senator say that on camera. what do you think, leo? >> quick response. never in my life have i agreed with dick durbin in that segment. he's a truth teller. why are they getting the same pay with people half of the audience have left them? excellent point i agree. liz: leo terrell you're fantastic merry christmas to you good to see you. moving on to this story. after years of silence president biden is now voicing support for stopping stock trading by members of congress. this is being seen reportedly as biden taking a swipe at former speaker nancy pelosi given the timing of her husband's very profitable trades. grady trimble now joins us live with this story from the white house. this story is really something, grady. what do you think what's going on? reporter: it is, liz. in all his years as a senator, vice president, and president, joe biden never took a position on whether members of congress should be able to trade stocks, but now, with just weeks left in his term, he is.

>> i don't know how you look your constituents in the eye and know because the job they gave you, gave you an inside track to make more money. nobody in the congress should be able to make money in the stock market while they are in the congress. reporter: republicans and democrats have come under fire for making money in the stock market while in office. a 2022 new york times report found at least 97 members of congress, their spouses or dependent children bought or sold stocks, bonds, or other financial assets that intersected with their congressional work. former house speaker nancy pelosi's husband paul has made millions of dollars trading stocks like a.i. chipmaker nvidia and google's important company alphabet. pelosi's office didn't respond to our request for comment today but she's denied paul traded on information she gave him. still, some republicans are suggesting president biden's new position is a slight at pelosi

who played a role in getting biden out of the presidential race. >> who knows maybe it's something to do with speaker pelosi but listen, whatever the reason, we should absolutely ban members of congress and their spouses from trading in stock. pelosi has gotten so rich doing this. it is ridiculous. reporter: for years, proposals to ban members of congress and their spouses from trading individual stocks have gotten bipartisan support but those proposals have never been voted on. liz, it is unclear whether this new stance from a lame duck president will tip the scales in favor of a ban. liz: grady trimble always great journalism thank you so much. trump is on record saying he's against stock trading, so you did a great job merry christmas good to see you. let's bring in from senate finance senator ron johnson. senator? let's show the timing of pelosi's husband's stock trades. your reaction to grady's report because nancy pelosi's net worth in 2, 2008 was around 31 million

and nearly grown nine times to $250 million. what is going on here? is president biden taking a swipe at former speaker nancy pelosi? >> he might be. sounds like there may be some corruption going on. i can only speak for myself. when i became the u.s. senator i sold all my marketable securities and i'm sitting on cash. you understand the opportunity costs of doing that. my wife has a couple etf's so i basically agree. we shouldn't be selling and trading individual stocks. i think some of these proposals go too far where i think senator holy's proposal would have forced members of congress to divest of privately held company they held before they became members so don't turn congress into a rich person's club. it kind of is already. you want people to be able to serve but you have to eliminate the conflict of interest. by the way it's already illegal to do insider trading but some members have gotten away with it

like nancy pelosi. liz: separate from that, is it pretty, is the irony pretty rich to hear president biden say, "i don't know how you look your constituents in the eye" because the job they gave you is not about an inside track to make more money but his family and he has been accused of helping them make 34 million bucks at least with selling, cashing in on his government job. that's what lawmakers say. >> you're not suggesting president biden is a hypocrite are you? obviously, not only president biden the worst president in u.s. history, probably the most corrupt. that's obvious, and senator grassley and i proved that with showing all of the millions of dollars flowing in from adversaries of financial transactions, so listen. there is corruption. there ought to be rules in place and again all i can speak for myself is i turned my marketable securities into cash. i don't think we should be trading individual stocks, that could be a conflict of interest. we should eliminate any

perception of that. liz: senator ron johnson you're wonderful, good to see you merry christmas. >> merry christmas. >> 84-year-old pelosi is recovering from hip surgery after suffering a fall. it feels like a moment of genuine madness. >> you have people that have the skills but they aren't pushing them forward. liz: looks like we've got another new democrat civil war breaking out, after trump won. the party is flailing after democrats got swept in the election. the liberal media now pointing fingers at democrats. we'll explain that one, next up jason rantz, he's going to talk to us about what it could look like when the dust settles. also tonight, this story. >> i'm saying that under the current dynamic, there is not clarity on this issue legally. >> well why don't you exhibit leadership and demonstrate leadership and provide clarity?

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stupidity, idiotic commentary from msnbc. they have known about nancy pelosi and the fight for years. all of a sudden, they don't like it because they don't get their far left wing nuts in power? >> yeah. that's exactly what it is. i'm of two minds because on the one hand i totally agree that you've got an older generation of politicians who should step aside for quality younger politicians. the problem is they don't have quality young politicians, not really. it's certainly not aoc, or jazzmine crock." if that's the future of the democratic party as a republican i'm feeling really confident, but a country should not feel very confident if that's the actual future leaders of democrats. the reason why they lost in this last election, and they lost all of the swing states, is precisely because too many within the democratic party listened to people like aoc. msnbc is a niche station,

specifically for squad members. people who hold those views and so to them of course their support of aoc and the others but to the rest of the democratic party, and average democratic voters, they don't want anything to do with those people. liz: yeah, so msnbc and cnn lost about half their audience. joy reid show is down about 60%, and they're all getting spun off and sold off by their parent companies. we talked to bankers today on wall street. they're saying those stocks will not recover because those networks can't be sold. so the wheel house is still double down and attack trump, when 49 states are going red, democrats lost all of the swing states. the ratings are being cut in half because they don't believe their narrative anymore. they think voters think they are off the wall. msnbc in the media land is called the bermuda triangle of

news because you don't get the news from them, but i want you to watch michael cohen. michael cohen is now agreeing with scott jennings on cnn saying yeah, trump is right. the media has been misleading america for years. watch. >> i hate to say it because scott and i very rarely agree on anything. he's right about this in the fact that sloppy journalism, sloppy polling, and what they did. i understand what trump is doing in terms of changing the way defamation cases are brought in this country. you may remember the allegations i was in prague, i paid $10 million to compromise and i have a house next to putin. none of this is true. liz: i can't tell you the damage that people like michael cohen, liberal media have done to america and the national conversation. people before the election,

jason, were afraid to say they were for trump in liberal bastians like new york city, los angeles, chicago. that's wrong. trump is trying to fix america. media did not do their job in giving both sides of the story. final word. >> yeah, they didn't at all and i think now some folks i guess in the media understand that and they want to at least pretend to course correct. this last election sent a clear message that left wing media outlets that decided to lean into bad faith reporting are on the wrong side and people are tuning out so they have to do something to get those eyeballs tuned back in. liz: jason rantz merry christmas to you. >> merry christmas. liz: the ncaa president outraging senators claiming it's on women to go find another locker room if there are biological males in it. let me ask you something if that was his daughter would he keep saying that? this is an issue trump doesn't like and he wants to stop. we'll get from the independent women's forum caroline downey

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>> your guidelines say that transgender student athletes should be able to use locker room, showers and toilet

facilities with their gender identity. >> if they wish to do so. >> the burden is on the women. elizabeth: ncaa president charlie baker, b after getting ripped by senators, saying that onus is on female athletes to use other restrooms. caroline downey is joining me now, what a terrible answer. >> this will go down as one of the greatest scandals of our time. the sports governing bodies like ncaa are choosing cowardice over courage, they are evicting women from their long fought spaces to make a small minority group feel comfortable while scores of women lose their opportunity and sense of safety. we saw lpga and uspga to ban

men. men have broader shoulders and more muscle mass and more test testosterone that makes for stronger people. if he does not he is opposing the will of the people. elizabeth: maybe he should go. he also called notion that biological males have a physical advantage over, women, debate able, but he changed his answer saying, i would agree. so -- here is the full exchange. >> why don't you take a position on transgender biological males competing agents females, you just told me it was not fair. >> there is a federal standard on this, one that we would work with you on,

if you wish to. >> why don't you do it on your own. >> we follow today law. >> go to amazon and buy spine on-line, a take a stand. >> this issue is not small this is growing. across country. high school and collegiate sports. from volleyball to golf to power lifting it gets more dangerous in the power endurance sports, women could face severe life-threatening consequences. elizabeth: caroline downey you are terrific thank you. >> i am elizabeth macdonald, thanks for watching "the evening edit" on fox business, dvrs, dagen and charlie are fired up. the ncaa thing is something dagen and charlie. charlie: amazing. dagen: go find a commode somewhere elsism merry christmas to you. dagen: thank you e-mac. elizabeth: see