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go come ♪ o you faithful ♪ joyful and triumphant ♪ stuart: i made my wishes known about christmas music and it appears i'm getting what i wanted to. no little drummer boy. back to a lovely sunshine weather in new york city, crisp and fresh but the sun is shining. we love it. good morning. it is 10:00 eastern time. this is a partial rebound from yesterday's selling good. nasdaq is up one hundred 43, nowhere near making up the losses from yesterday. the treasury yield going up. nada great stock. the price of oil $71 a barrel,
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bitcoin $101 last time we checked. realtors, heads up. we received very important numbers. the read on existing home sales. neil: 4.8%, adjusted to 4.one 5 million homes sold, the swiftest since march. the price median 406,100. stuart: is that up or down? lauren: up on the year. stuart: it is not robust selling, 4.1 million annualized. lauren: two months in a row of bigger numbers and that might be reassuring to folks looking for more inventory. stuart: i will take that as a positive. thanks. now this. 24 hours ago, elon musk
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demonstrated his power, he sent a message, the bill to avoid a government shutdown should not pass. just a couple words and it worked. the spending bill did not pass. nobody voted for elon musk but with the support of donald trump he called the shots on shutting down the government and is calling the shots on trimming the fat in government. he has influence on just about every aspect of policy including who should take which job in the cabinet. we've never seen anything like this before. no previous administration has allowed an unelected outsider this degree of power. it's all a function of musk's relationship with the president-elect, they have been inseparable from on scum he practically lives at mar-a-lago and they seem to be an agreement on everything. doesn't hurt that he's the richest man in the world and through $200 million into trump's campaign. he got it back when chesler's stock went up because of trump/musk romance.
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two problems. first, the obvious conflict of interest. musk has enormous influence and it helps his businesses. he is appointing of the regulators who regulate him. everything is fine until it is not. what happens when a policy that musk approves and pushes helps his companies and hurt his competitors? the second problem. how long does the romance last? elon and the president are mercurial characters, close now and seemingly in complete agreement. doesn't go on for four years? what happens if there's a divorce? trump will still be president but will chesler stock still be flying so high? this is a unique situation, no one saw this relationship coming and no one knows where it is going. second hour of varney just getting started. stuart: charlie hurt is joining me this thursday morning.
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what do you make of the trump/musk relationship? >> i share your concerns. it is unprecedented and obviously he carries a lot of swat in the administration. i would argue the federal agencies are already captured in ways nobody understands by the companies they regulate and because we have no idea how they are captured, we are not able to have observations. to finish that what i think is okay about this is it is are wide open. the romance is out there, they should get together and come up with a fragrance line and call it trump musk. it is so out there, so obvious, everybody knows what is going on. the other thing, trump is anything but a pushover. he's not going to do what somebody tells him to do and he
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has this guy because he's very smart and likes him and he likes what he has to say and has put him in charge of doge. this is in line with all of that but your point is a crucial one. he has a lot to gain from all of this and we need to watch him like a hawk. stuart: with chesler stock, $450 a share musk is worth $450 billion. that is the money we are talking about. >> the swing from election day to today. stuart: say that again in my ear. okay. i will report that later. we have some arrests at the amazon protests apparently. changing the subject. politico reports some democrats want to see kamala harris run again. >> excuse me. the police are present at the amazon protests.
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it is a strike, one person has been arrested. we will bring more on that later in the show. back to you. politico reports some democrats want kamala harris to run again in 2028, you burst out laughing when i said that. they think she lost the race because biden dropped out too late. my opinion is she's not a good candidate. >> that's not a terribly strong statement. i think it's like an abusive relationship. the people are captured. she didn't turn a single vote. the only votes she got she got because people don't like donald trump. she blue over $1 billion in 100 days and lost with the media behind her. stuart: what do you think she will do? >> doesn't mean she doesn't have a future in california. anybody has a future in
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california. she should stick to that. she is finished on the national level. even democrats don't like her. stuart: a strong opinion. >> it is obvious to me. stuart: we will tell you. >> she's a fake candidate running a fake campaign and this is fake enthusiasm. stuart: thank you very much. look at this. amazon workers striking in various parts of the country, the police department is there. madison alworth is there and will bring us more on this shortly. back to the markets please. we've got some green but not as much as we had earlier, the dow was up 400, now it is up 180. a huge loss yesterday and the nasdaq is up 77, huge loss yesterday. i'm going to express an opinion here. i think the rate cut yesterday was a mistake. what say you? >> i agree 100%. bottom line is what does the fed do?
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the mandate is full employment and maximum employment and price stability. we have both. we are at 4. 2% on unemployment at a 50 year low if you look at business survey recently, november, small businesses will higher, we have deregulation, corporate tax cuts coming. in addition we know prices come down a lot, 2% inflation based on gauge, for six months. why are they cutting rates? and the economy is heating up here. i agree with you that it is ironically going up even with the fed cutting mortgage rates to 6. 75%. %. what is the bond market telling you?
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inflation will be harder moving forward. the fed should be waiting to see. stuart: this doesn't sound like good news for stocks. >> it is good news for stocks because it's bringing your money market fund rate down and people are sitting with 6.7 trillion in money market funds. it has to go somewhere. if you look, profits go up. earnings growth this year, next year and in 2026, gains going through the roof, this company is using automation, artificial intelligence. all those things are heating up. the fed is adding more fuel to the fire, cutting rates. i've been talking about this a long time call beer in the smelt up stage number risk of another asset cost, that's why bitcoin in my opinion is up 100,000, money is too easy and free. stuart: okay.
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i am tempted to go with a 2-year treasury that yields 4.3%. risk-free investing. the 10 year now up to 4.56%, not good news for stocks. >> only because where the hottest asset class is. the hottest place to be. stuart: look at this, amazon workers on strike, madison alworth, what is going on? >> the strike is going on, what is developing of this morning, they are trying to stop the trucks from moving.
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they block the roadway, two arrests, police have been playing a loud system that says you are unlawfully in the roadway and restricting vehicular traffic and informing people if they don't get out of the streets they will be charged with disorderly conduct. we have had two arrests, one more person is under investigation potential for arrest but because the protests are going on. seven location crosses the us, where we have teamsters and amazon workers on strike. amazon telling us it is not going to interrupt holiday deliveries but in new york there is a delay in terms of packages. i want to bring in one of the workers to give you that perspective. setting the scene, a fluid situation, two arrests but they
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♪ ♪ stuart: the dow is up 200, the nasdaq is up 160. check soho house, they've got them in new york, los angeles, they are a big after receiving a buyout that would value the company at $2 billion, up 60%. %. the government is considering a ban on a popular brand of internet routers which are made in china. there are concerns these devices pose a national security risk. grady trimble at the white
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house, what threats are we talking about? >> reporter: the concern, they have been linked with cyberattacks, one of the most popular routers across the country but it is also used to power internet communications for the department of defense and other federal agencies so the wall street journal says multiple agencies are looking at a possible ban of these routers. investigators at commerce, defense and the justice department are looking into the manufacturer which was established in china. and and against western targets. the company acknowledges its routers have been identified
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for prc base, rigorous secure product develop processes and take mitigate known vulnerabilities. we've heard from the chinese embassy on this, they say the us is bullying chinese companies and if there is any enforcement action it would likely come under the incoming trump administration and something tells me they will not go easy on china-based companies. stuart: thanks very much. homeland security secretary says the chinese hacking campaign is still going on. >> you correctly describe this as a very very serious matter. china has hacked into our telecommunications provider and the extent of it is serious.
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i should say in response to that, we've taken action. our cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency published best practices that everyone should read. >> reporter: retired 4-star general jack keane joins me now. don't we need a stronger response than a memo? >> no doubt about it. let me state a couple facts, china is conducting cyber warfare in international power in a way we've not seen before. russia is also very good at it. china has stolen significant amounts of intellectual property averaging somewhere in the neighborhood of 500 billion a year, the greatest transfer of funding and property in history.
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what is happening here, china is using cyber warfare to penetrate some of our critical infrastructure while we are at peace, to understand what the challenges are associated with that. we know for a fact, if conflict breaks out in the region china will weapon eyes cybercapability to attacked the homeland of the united states, to do what? conflict going on with hard power, they will use this to penetrate the system, the electric grid to shut down electricity, they will shut down oil and gas, go after our water supply, they will shut down major pharmaceutical companies so there's no distribution of drugs. and shutdown access to funding. what the intent of that? to break the will of the american people, force them to take a knee and force the government of the united states
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to capitulate. hard power would be used where china dominates us in the pacific region and you cyberwarfare to break the will of the american people at home. this is a serious threat, serious business, dhs secretary is understating how serious this is. we need full disclosure to the american people what we are up against. stuart: the other side of the coin is the pentagon is worried about military buildup. china nearly tripled its nuclear arsenal since 2020, china is becoming more aggressive in the south china sea. don't we need a significant increase in defense spending which at the moment is not in the cards? >> yes. absolutely. china is conducting the most rapid military buildup in history and they have gone right past us in every category
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except submarine. ships, airplanes, offense of missiles, defensive missiles, the list goes on. they are defense industrial base can out produce hours for the next 10 or 15 years. we are not even close to that. what we need to do is not go platform to platform with them, we didn't go platform to platform with the soviet union. we've got to build up enough so that we impose cost on the man they recognize this is going to be too hard and doubt his and question whether we can succeed or not. we are not there now. and yes, we do need a defense buildup but at the same time i say that, by the way, all of our budgets for the four years have been flat, no growth and that is reckless in doings that. we need a defense buildup but we also need to change the defense business practices so that money is being spent effectively and we are not wasting it. those things have to happen together. stuart: got it.
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to change the subject for a moment and turned to the war in israel. benjamin netanyahu is holding high-level meetings with top security officials. they are trying to reach a cease-fire deal. benjamin netanyahu met with adam boller, trump's picture special envoy for hostage affairs. it seems to be we are getting closer and closer to a hostage deal. do you see it that way? >> i do as my sources tell me the same thing. it seems to be quite different from the hype that was surrounding previous deals. this seems to be the case, largely having to do with hamas. the new leadership recognizes the end is here for them. they want to survive and this is a way for them to survive. hopefully this does take place.
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the latest count of hostages is around 48 and they also provide the remains of the other hostages that they have. let's pray that this is really happening. it looks like it is. may be we will get some results in the next several days. stuart: that would be good news indeed, we always appreciate it, see you again soon. elon musk jumping into the debt fight in an early test of his political power. >> it is clear they were about to pass the bill and musk intervened and trump followed him. everyone watching this should strap on their seatbelts because this is what the next four years are going to be like. stuart: has elon musk become a copresident with donald trump? i put that to brian brenberg who is coming up shortly. jeff baize oh's spotted dining with trump and mar-a-lago. big tech leaders, team trump,
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stuart: georgia court of appeals disqualified district attorney fani will us for prosecuting donald trump in his election interference case. they've not thrown out trump's indictment completely, they have no authority to proceed. chalk up another legal been for trump. on the markets, gains are moderating. it is up but not much, one hundred 40 points higher. the nasdaq composite up 60 points. it had been up that way. back to the amazon strike. >> and behind me trying to get
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as many trucks. and rent the trucks for making deliveries, and getting more of these trucks going. the protesters have been resisting and blocking trucks, sometimes in the street, we see some of that video, there been to arrests, and blocking and disorderly conduct. earlier this morning, another arrest, a driver pulling out, got to the road and stopped his truck and refused to move. he was also arrested. what these workers are looking
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for is to be recognized, looking for better pay and better benefits and recognized as part of teamsters, they are not doing that. we are close to the christmas season. there are concerns from viewers, this should not impact, what we are seeing in new york is there will likely be delays here but as a company, the protesters are saying we are not stopping until we have what we want to. stuart: we will be back later in the show. democrat senator john fetterman reaching across the aisle, he has agreed to meet with rfk junior in the new year. has fetterman become an outlier in his party? >> i think he has been this way for a while, he bucked his party on a number of things including the border. he said that was a big deal
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before the election. rfk junior just walked into a meeting with senator blackburn and on his way and he told our camera he's looking forward to meeting with democrats in the new year and one of them will be senator john fetterman. we caught them yesterday having the nice cordial handshake in the heart ways as rfk junior headings were meeting with republican senator and john fetterman tells me he will be anyway you with rfk and the new year to figure out something out with his team and put something on the calendar. he's been defending himself are meeting with trump's more controversial nominees. it is different thune than what is coming from the most powerful democrat in the senate who went through a senate floor yesterday to bash kennedy. >> for rfk junior to say we have to study polio vaccine at this point is not only shocking, if he is going to be
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the scourge against vaccinations across america, he is in for a fight. >> he's blaming scheduling conflict for not being able to meet with pam bondi. that candidate is supposed to go through his committee and admits she did reach out to him over a week ago. some nominees, sean duffy, already secured democratic votes. time is running out. we now know with government funding they might stick around. stuart: amazon's found or seen having dinner with trump at mar-a-lago last night. ceos and investors have soaring confidence in the global economy since trump's when. a perfect time to bring in andy pudzner.
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they hated trump and suddenly they love him. why the turnaround? >> people have come to realize, big ceos can't run a government where we've got a debt load that' s unserviceable, $36 trillion in debt, it is up 63% in the first two months of this year, that can't continue, they need to run the country the way they run the businesses, they think there's an opportunity for economic growth. vivek and elon, they would like to get involved as well. stuart: you have a new op-ed that says biden is, i am quoting, oblivious about leaving trump and economy on the precipice of disaster. do you think the american economy is on the brink of
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disaster? >> if we can't stop this deficit spending, we are on a path to oblivion. in 2019, retired federal deficit was $1 trillion, the last year under trump before the pandemic. the deficit, the interest on the debt over the last 12 months is one. one trillion. interest on the debt exceeds what the federal deficit was before the pandemic. you can't -- it is getting bigger and bigger, biden had no plan for reducing the debt or the deficit. it is all democrats talk about our tax increases. cut taxes, increase revenue,
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increase spending with doge, department of government efficiency, and for biden to claim he's handing over the best economy in modern history, you have to be in fairyland to think that's close to true. stuart: come again soon. a state of emergency in california for the bird flu, the cdc confirmed the first severe case of the disease in humans. how did jeff bezos save $1 billion in taxes. breaking down the numbers after this. ♪ ♪
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when you're in the military you're really close with your brothers and your sisters that are in the military with you. and when you get out of the military, you kind of lose that until you find a new family. we can talk about our struggles and the things that we did overseas and not everybody can do that. adam! how's it going, brother? we live pretty close to each other. so he's always coming over. when i go to jack's house, we watch a lot of football, hang out. we go outside the friendship has kind of grown into a family i was overseas on a deployment. i got separated from my marines and i got hit in the neck, and it broke my neck and paralyzed me. 14 years ago, i was on a training mission.
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stuart: the georgia court of appeals disqualifying da fani from prosecuting trump and his election interference case. trump's response, he called the case a disgrace to justice and the wonderful patriots caught up in the 3 years should be seen an apology. looks like a trump win to me. the rebound from yesterday's losses running out of steam, the dow up one hundred 33, s&p up 16, nasdaq up 46, nowhere near yesterday's losses, show me the 10 year treasury yield, in move to the highest level since may of this year, 4.56%. back to the latest on existing home sales, homes are selling at an annual rate of or.15 million.
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mitch rachelle joins me now. what does that tell you about the state of the housing market? doesn't seem too upbeat, does it. >> this is the new normal for housing, the days of selling 6 million houses a year are behind us. i think we will be at this level for quite some time and relying on interest rates to drop, to be a catalyst for people who aren't sellers or buyers is a full's errand, this is the new normal. in the market are not in the market, you have to learn to live with it. stuart: the realtors must be in despair. in an industry that's moving so slowly is not good news, is it? >> every once in a while i find a letter from a realtor somewhere in america so if you
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are listening or watching, it is absolutely separating those realtors who work with their customers to create value, to convince people to become sellers, to get buyers to look at things differently. when they really work for their client they make a difference but there's a chunk of the industry that was tapping in without working too hard but at the end it will be better for the customers who will survive lower volume and differencemakers. stuart: i seed mortgage demand to drop for the first time in five weeks, total application volume down, refinance demand also down. what does that tell you about the housing market?
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>> it is a time of year thing. one of my least favorite data points is mortgage demand. i don't think it tells the story. the interest rate conundrum is a real one. a lot of people saying going to wait for rates to come down. i don't see that happening. powell lowered the short end of the treasury curve rates went up, all the remarks that came in two hours to follow in the press conference, we are in a higher rate environment. when we bought homes with 12%, 13%, 14% mortgages, we did not
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purchase a home at that period, when paul volcker was the rate share, needed a place to live and find a way to make it work. stuart: mitch rachelle, thanks for joining us. see you again next week, got a related story. what is this about guest bedrooms making a comeback. lauren: fewer americans are having children so there are extra bedrooms in the house. it's great if you're hosting christmas, family can stay. realtor.com puts numbers on it, they are at 31.9 million guest bedrooms, an all-time high, when i was a kid it was 7 million. a huge jump in 40 years. but when that is a huge jump. lauren: used to be 3 people living in a house.
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stuart: amazon founder jeff baeza's moving from seattle to florida. stuart: savings of one billion. no state income tax, no capital gains tax, no estate tax, his with $250 billion, when he moved from washington to florida earlier this year, he sold amazon stocks that saved him one billion dollars. just like that. stuart: i love that story. still had nestlé launching a new drink that will mimic the effects of weight loss drugs like ozempic. we ask dr. frank contacessa. the timing of a strike is nasty. hard to respect union members when they inflict maximum pain on amazon and its customers. that's "my take" coming up.
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stuart: what is happening with big tech this morning?
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i see green. nvidia back to 131, amazon, microsoft, apple on the upside. eli lilly, the fbi says there is no shortage of their weight loss drug, no difference to the stock, down one person. staying on the weight loss story, nestlé just launched a natural protein drink aimed at suppressing people's appetite. the drink promote the reaction in the body similar to ozempic. dr. frank contacessa joins us. how does this work? >> this is a sign of nestlé trying to get on the craze of the gop won drugs, less people buying drunk -- junk foods and candies. about 10 g of protein in it, 45
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cal which isn't bad ratio. there is no drug or pharmaceutical but the actual protein load it self and stimulates a small amount of this hormone which is a naturally are coring hormone. is it is misleading to say it is the same effect as the drug. any protein load will cause the same amount. for people who weren't getting enough protein, when you take these drugs you need to get enough protein which is difficult to do. the drink is being marketed towards people on these drugs so they can get extra protein. stuart: so it is not as effective as those in pick -- ozempic. california has declared a state of emergency over the bird flew, the virus was detected in dairy cows in the state, the
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first of your human case confirmed in louisiana. when you declare a state of emergency as in california, what happens? >> good question. he's trying to get state funds in federal funds released to combat this thing. two strains are occurring in california. the one in louisiana, the severe case you mentioned, we have to be watchful of this. i want people to understand this virus is not spreading person to person. the only people infected by this are in close contact with cows or birds, people who keep backyard phlox or dead bird, the only ones who are getting this now. it is not spreading person to person. governor newsom is trying to get ahead of it. there's a financial benefit to declaring a state of emergency. it is a bit premature.
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right now don't worry about it so much because it is not spreading person to person. stuart: the big concern would be a fit spread person to person. that would be a huge -- something about the virus which would stop it spreading person-to-person? >> when you have an animal reservoir in animals and it starts to spread to people eventually the virus learned how to spread, this happened with covid whether it was manipulated or not and that is up for debate but the virus, evolution teaches them to jump person-to-person so it is only a matter of time before that happens. we have to keep our eyes peeled. stuart: accused united ceo killer luigi mangione has left the courthouse in holidayberg,
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his next pennsylvania hearing is on february 24th, federal charges are expected to be unsealed later today. we have a big show for you still ahead. we will see what brian brenberg thinks about musk's growing influence on the presidency. leo terrell cracking down on crime in the formerly golden state. jason rantz will react to a proposed wealth tax in washington state. our resident theologian jonathan morris looking at the catholic influence on the trump administration. the 11:00 hour is next. ♪ ♪
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and presents on the tree. right now all over the country kids at shriners hospitals for children™ are able to go home and be with their families for the holidays. and that's only possible because of the monthly donations from people like you. thanks to a generous donor every dollar you give will go three times as far to help more kids. with your gift of just $19 a month, only $0.63 a day. we'll send you this adorable love to the rescue® blanket as a thank you. and a reminder of the care you'll be providing so kids can be with their families. (singing) christmas eve will find me. where the love light gleams. it only takes a moment to call the number on your screen. or you can visit loveshriners.org.
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your gift of $19 a month will have three times the impact in the lives of kids like me. because every child just wants to be home for the holidays, and your gift makes that possible. your call is the best gift of all. your gift will be my favorite christmas present this year. please call the number on your screen or go to loveshriners.org to give whatever you can. and when you become a monthly donor your first gift will be tripled! thank you for giving! >> there's no option for a good bill here because the democrats control the white house and the senate. donald trump isn't president yet. >> none of us were coerced, none of us were forced to be teamsters. we're proud to be steam sterling heightses and plan to be out here as long as it takes. >> we're up today and it's the markets saying maga matters more than interest rate cut

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