franklin templeton, is it the new jersey sector? >> we're positive on the energy sector and what you said about europe purchasing american energies and very positive. we don't think a geopolitical disruption causing energy prices to go up and that's positive. on the other side of that, there's sectors like the defense sector that are likely liz: we're closing with a rally. markets down for the week but have a lovely weekend. larry: hello, folks.

welcome to kudlow, i'm larry kudlow. we have is that the torr rand paul and a lot more moments away. first up, let's go to our own grady trimble live in capitol hill. what do you think you know reporter: larry, it's unclear when a vote will happen, but what we expect sometime in the next few hours or so is for house republicans -- well, the house floor including republicans sports grill deputies to vote on essentially the bill that they shot down yesterday but minus that provision to raise the debt ceiling, remember, that is the part that a lot of conservative republicans on the house freedom caucus weren't happy with so 38 republicans voted against this bill. this remove it is. so that means one bill and one vote to keep the government open and providing disaster relief for hurricane victims and aid for farmers. this will be two-thirds majority to pass because of the way they'll present this to the house and that means some democrats will have to get

behind it. we'll be making sure military and essential services is paid over the holidays. you might be wondering where the current president is in all of this and the white house says that president biden has been in touch with leaders schumer and jeffries who by the way have yet to weigh in on the latest proposal from republicans. the white house says it is speaker johnson's fault that this has come down to the wire.

he's weeing request the way it went down between conversations with house minority leader hakeem jeffreys and he's questioning if it's a republican bill or democrat bill in oppose on x we'll see if that throw as wrench into things. >> there's a promise for the bill and march 14th or around the first reconciliation will. college a second they might not be able to cash in on that propses to cut spindling by --

promises to cut spending by by $2.5 trillion over the course of several reconciliation bills that won't be mentioned but those are propses. i dent know -- promises and i don't know if those check cans be cashed. >> i don't think it'll be in writing, larry. it's a handshake agreement and see how it plays out down the road. larry: grady trimble, thank you very much. folks a lesson for the gop: simplify, simplify, simplify and that's the subject of the riff. it's desirable not in economic terms but political terms and could conceivably giver senator chuck schumer added power

through the certification of the presidential election on januarp to the inauguration on january 20. schumer democrats are diabolical and entity don't know what happens if you leave them in charge even for a couple more weeks. it would allegedly cut $2.5 trillion in federal spending over the course of reconciliation bills yet to be determined next year. this exercise of extending funding and unpredictable, and i believe it's a leagued indicator of the potential problems the

gop may encounter next year if they continue to casually believe that they can pass numerous reconciliation bills in 2025. resent polling and that polling shows nearly half of all voters think we're in a recession. more than four fifths worry about inflation and 35% of voters say it's most important for tram top secure the boarder and right behind 26% say continuing growth by making trump tax cuts permanent. trump tax cut 2.0 wildly popular.

ending taxes on times for service workers and 64% favor ending taxes on overtime pay for workers, and 70% favor making the 2017 trump tax cuts permanent. right now, mr. trump and his transition team are very popular. his approval rating well above 50%. he is enjoying nearly unprecedented post election honmy moon. symbolized major red flag warning and making things overly

complicated next year. the tax cuts would be a big mistake and delaying the tax cuts wonderful you would not pt money in the hands of working folks and would not fatten blue collar wallets and those are the folks that voted in mr. trump with his major victory in the popular vote and the swing states. gop has winning issues cuts the border and taxes and drill baby drill. massive reconciliation bill will create. one big beautiful bill. he's right. that's my riff.

thinking of anything, that's the simple as possible and one bill starting immediately. going for them one simple question we have to ask before getting started and government to be bigger or mauler and what speaker johnson was proposed was $30 billion and farm subsidies and making government bigger and borrowing more money and adding 100 billion in disaster money and borrowed and not paid for and continuing to spend money this, is called continuing resolution, but continuing to spend money at a rate that we're $2 trillion short and deficit is $2 trillion and that's the we're

not going to give a blank check to anyone, democrat or republican, and we're not going to address the debt ceiling and no one is responsible and they voted against that and that was a real good pushback by conservatives and i'm one of those who says you can't not vote and have a day of shame and day of responsibility and that's the day they voted to raise the debt ceiling. larry: i don't think the debt ceiling has much to do with the debt. i will acknowledge and i'll ask you this directly, so, yes, where are the pay for s? where are they? even in the old mccarthy deal, they were paid fors and those have been waved and nobody is talking about paid fors for the

130 billion extra money that you're talking about. that's one important thing in the deal. why are they sending to ukraine instead of asheville? not just for sending to asheville and borrowing and take it from somewhere else and a lot of green new deal subsidies out there and haven't been spent and go to big corporations and not going for some emergency, they're going to cronies of the democrats that own tomorrow rations and solar panel companies or what have you and they're getting subsubsidies and all ended and all the expenditures and the democrats are piling on, there's many there and covid money we can claw back and then there's a

question, most estimates for north carolina at $50 billion. why doing $110 billion. maybe we could do 50 billion and ask again in a month or two and being wisely spent or people are stealing the money. larry: i agree with all that stuff. that leaves us where? you want elon musk to be the new speaker of the house and is that a vote of no confidence against speaker johnson. you think elon musk could do any better? >> i'm afraid it would be a step down from making rockets and tesla. it would be a big teped down and we need entrepreneurs and one thing when elon musk looks at his rockets, somebody's name is attached to every part. so if there's a problem on the

rocket, he knows your name, you'll be asked why did you do this? why did you do that? government is the opposite. we had an assassination attempt on donald trump, we interviewed social security. no one would say they were in charge. couldn't find one person saying he or she was in charge. i was in charge of this but not that. you know, that's a problem with government is nobody really puts their name on a part nobody holds responsibility for the spending and the debt and a lot of thins need to change when you have competitive contract withs elon and vivek talked about. there's a lot of good things that could happen, if you contrast with what's happening in week, over $100 billion unpaid for being added to our debt. you know, that wasn't all. it passed a security bill in the middle of that. the last three years social security has been spending more than they're bricking in in taxes and we've increased annual

debt of social security by 50% with this bill and once again they'll pay for it. i've offered to pay for it and increasing age of eligibility by three months here and ultimately in about three months you have to be 70 and do i not like old people? i aspire to be an old person one day and doing it so have social security left when i get there. to save social security, you have to have reforming and instead, i think disreputable congress going out on things and harder to pay for them. larry: tons of republicans voted for that bill. this is adding $200 billion to state and local public workers. we did this 40 years ago. i was there, senator, with reagan. 40 years ago, expressly. we took them out of the system. they don't pay social security taxes and payroll taxes and they

don't get benefits because it's richly benefited from their states and localities. in fact, they're told benefit and retirement packages are a private sector come probable sector and i don't know where this came from and all of a sudden the senate in its wisdom is that group with $200 billion for what reason, sir? for what reason? this is probably teachers union up through chuck schummer and democratic party and days like the majority of the republican caucuses voting in favor of this. i mean, this is a terrible idea. you were right on this. listen, you have to satisfy everything. that's why i think this idea of multiple reconciliation packages is crazy.

>> reconciliation is voting by simple mayorty and going to -- majority going for them and easing cut spending and cutting taxes and regulations and going for republicans to vote for this. this is just a fact and we know this. larry: in the house? in the house? >> well, in the house it'll probably be only republicans that will vote and back in 2017 cutting taxes and only republicans voted to cut taxes in the senate and it was the same way in the house. larry: no, no, sir. i didn't mean to interrupt. i'm making a different point. sorry. >> to keep those tax cuts and to get them through, it's going to require republicans the people around here that think the military doesn't get enough money, the spending cap borrowing $2 trillion and go beyond and spend more in the military. that's what they'll use for

first reconciliation going with border money and in the end it's important whether it's paid for. in the house and the republicans. it's going to be very difficult to get a deal on anything. larry: simplify this and work it through. it'll be hard enough. multiple bills, multiple bills means you're going to squander the big republican victory from mr. trump and the senate and you won't even get to the tax cuts and you won't even put more money in people's wallets and won't solve recession fears. you can't play russian roulette with it, senator paul. you can't. >> i agree with you. what they mistake is they think they need a border spending

package immediately to succeed and what i think is that donald trump through executive order reversing biden's executive orders on day one is going to set in motion a dramatic he has the power on day one to say anyone coming across illegally is not at all eligible for asylum and that's going to be right back and remain in mexico and he has the power and he did some of it last time. larry: it's the protective order and they've made odds and ends they don't need a whole entire reconciliation bill going for them and i couldn't agree more. thank you for visiting with us. happy christmas, happy merry christmas, seasonings greetings, senator paul.

>> same to you. larry: coming up on kudlow, how bad was the coverup of joe biden's mental and physical decline? it's much more than they thought. the guy was president name only. i know a few more political ones and it's going for charlie hurt and katie pavlich right here onset when kudlow returns. going at 4:00 p.m.. catch us at 4:00 p.m. and if not, catch your favorite 9-year-old and she'll dvr the show. never miss a reconciliation and more otherwise.

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that's the ticket. larry: you were up too late last night. come back to us, charlie. >> i like it. the continuing resolution thing and hardly talk to anybody and the few senior aids and that was brief and they acted for him. hardly ever talk to lloyd austin, a defense secretary and was himself awol. >> missing in action while the troops were under fire if the middle east. larry: wouldn't talk to adam smith in washington state on verge of afghanistan pullout, which is a big job, head of armed services committee and talking to him.

all the while we were being lied to. l. >> we could all see the way the current sitting president was behaving and this is a man who was able to get away with multiple felonies as a result of being incapable and not having his wits about him. we saw that in the herr report, which both democrats and the media roundly rejected and white house attacked reporters of "the wall street journal" talking about the report. we've been saying this when he ran for the first five years and they're hiding things from everybody and saying that what you saw with your own eyes afters cheap fake or not real.

for a party all about democracy, they're making pretty big decisions without the president. larry: i mean, i'm, i guess he flunked by the way, the interview with robert herr, he prepped and they flunked that. they finally did it and it was a disaster and herr said i'd bust him but he's a kindly old man. i don't know to this day how he got off on that. it's a terrible story. one other one, a big political story and this one from politico talking to the campaign manager and important of visuals and they were saying and learned part from trump and part of this is kind of happening during the campaign so picture this.

biden give ago big speech in the fake overall office and harris gave a big speech on the ellipse that no one watched, the washington event. trump speaks to like five people dishing out french fries at mcdonalds and it's an international visual. >> historic moment. moment. larry: a global visual; right? okay. second, trump goes into one garbage truck and it was a huge deal. global visual. who won that contrast? >> epic, iconic. my favorite meme i think they call it on the internet of donald trump talking to joe biden at notre dame for the big opening and she's listening intently and he's sitting there and the quote at the bottom says, i went and bought a

garbage truck and the difference is going for the welfare media and going to offer fries at mcdonalds and it's earned media and donald trump is somebody that is earning media, his entire life and going for everybody thought this was in the political world and they scoffed at this and scorned at this and by the way, this is a democracy and that's not a bad thing. larry: and the greatest visual of course is when he raised this those are lessons from the campaign.

the stuff not obvious in what he said was important and it was the visual and the visuals helped trump in ways that harris crowd never understood. >> on the visual thing and you can create a key to authenticity and it's the alleged one and falls flat and gets taken over by your adjust p.m. on the campaign trail and going on the way that trump handles all the situations and dnc was the fakest shrow on the hollywood producers and waving american flags and going for them and they brought out the camo and harris walz attacks trying to get men to vote for them all about hunting. it's not just the visual and it's important and the authenticity behind what you're doing. larry: did joe biden have a maga

hat on the day he voted? >> it's a signal to me who they voted for. >> they were not happy. larry: charlie, is it possible that republicans learned who this continuing resolution fiasco? i'm going to -- i was going to say simple, simple stuff and should have been done in 24 hours or less. lest make it simple and not expect to have several two, three reconciliation bills next year and our party can't get together. going for the vote anything and

>> one, big, beautiful bill. david: did we not learn that this last couple of days. the election and some members o, obviously democrats will sit on the sideline and they want to watch failure occur right in front of them. but vast mayorty think the crown triple-demic is in crisis and do simple basic things and that's what republicans need is simple basic things to get it done. larry: any harder than it needs to be.

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larry: we're joined by ej an tony and jim mclaughlin. it's an odd couple but nevertheless we're all here. mclaughlin, you have a good piece, you and john in news max, and the point is the economic story is still number one story and board service connected relatively close second.

i don't have to quibble because i'm in favor of dealing with both. but i don't want to wait on the tax cuts. this fiasco going for the reconciliation and going for secondly and look, and go not fatten blue collar workers and put more money in their pockets and i don't want to dismiss the border issue but and the tax issue and people thomas mancino voted for you issue and i just think sometimes blunt logic is

better than sophisticated logics. >> without a doubt. you know what, we can do both and donald trump proved the first time by the way, he can do the immigration stuff through executive orders and just letting the border patrol do what we're supposed to do. a85% of americans are being affected by inflation and they have less money in their pockets, and that's why 70% of americans, want to make the trump tax cuts permanent and 80% want -- 80% plus want social security taxes cut. larry: i wassed in that and i put that in the riff today and gave you due they're already

paying withholding tax so they're getting double taxed. >> they know supply side larry kudlow economics works and it'll create j jobs and put more money in their pocket. larry: hour you call it, tony antoni, whatever you call t it's more people in their pockets and gives them incentive to work and/or invest depending on the story. that's what's missing, i'm going to say sources close to trump suggest he wants one big fat beautiful bill. draw your own conclusions who the sources are and his lieutenants in the senate and the senate thing, i'm not here to attack thune. they're smart people and good guys and able to get it donna b but they're miss ago opportunity

and strike while it's hot. going for the first administration and effect of the tax cuts waiting so long to get them into place and not doing them right away and going for them and it's what people want and need for financial relief and take 500 less to this and just for inflation and going for them and biden took office and families in real need today and need relief and tax cuts and they've raised inflation targets and going for them to keep cuts interest rates and pumping up the money supply and going for them and i don't want the fed to

give trump another round of biden inflation and biden inflation lingers and if you can, explain, what is going on here. how does cutting interest rates solve a problem of inflation that the fed itself says is still a problem, which means basically the fed is stupid because they're doing stupid things. they're making mistakes and i don't want to forgive the fed. >> they're making the same mistakes over and over and my goodness, as you said, inflation is reaccelerating and they're cutting interest rates and going for them and the tone of the minutes and it's the fact that if you go back six months ago, they were talking higher for longer, which they are now and why before the election did they change their tune and present a rosier outlook and went with those hard and fast rate cuts and going before the election?

larry: if you're saying publicly, which is what jay powell was saying that inflation is still a problem and you're little minutes and index cards say it may be a bigger problem, then why would you be cutting rate s? >> i'm not saying jack rates up but why don't you leave them stable for awhile and let supply side tax cuts come in and would produce more goods and services which help more prices and get liquid gold and get inflation out of the way. that's what i don't understand. you're saying the same thing and only thing we're reading is friends and going for them. >> your point about inflation and doing focus groups and i do voters and swing voters and these are people that are on the side of the elections and i tell them 20%, they tell you it's way higher than that. and what having a little less money on pockets and they have a

lot less on the pockets and these tax cuts you're seeing and you've lived through and wrote a book about it. whether it was the keeper game i did tax cuts and reagan tax cuts or the trump tax cuts and they know they're putting more money on them and take this opportunity for the hot and spike when the iron is hot. and elon musk is popular and jd vance and everyone is. why wait till god knows. august, september, october, i don't want to have o have any doug flattie hail mary passes many the end zone last day of the year and that pass was caught in 2017 and needs to be caught every year. >> exactly. larry: i got to get out of here. i was going to ask you about -- i know millions of people listen to tiktok, but it is a supply side going on this and going for

them and can congressional republicans help trump get rid of the debt ceiling and oklahoma senator mark wayne mullen, welcome, sir. sir, can i clear this up, axios running the story saying you're negotiating a side deal on immigration and border closing and i think you have denied it and wouldn't surprise me and axios gets a lot of scoops that turnout not to be scoops and what can you do and is this a sign? >> delivering for president trump and going for that and shutting down with funding and going for them and came from a conversation and i was having about looking at two packages of border and on one and i don't know where it came from and it is absolutely not accurate at

all. i am not in negotiation, secret negotiation on the border. >> i'm not opposed if they're any good. i want to clarify the story and i'm not opposed and i'm not opposed to side hustles too and l my own view and i don't want multiple reconciliation bills and i think what's going on in the house the last three or four days is not going to be mistake and what's going on is a logano difficult thing to get it truffle why are we getting three reconciliation bills through and put money in people's pockets this winter or spring in >> you're right and going for them and going to keep in mind in 2017 when we had a super majority in the house and still took us over a year for the package for the president and going for them and now it's going to be extremely difficult with the margins and i think at

the end of the day, president trump is going to make this decision. if president trump wants two, we'll do two and if he wants one, we'll do one. it'll band-aid of may, first of june probably before we'll be able to vote on the first reconciliation packages and we have the budget first and now fy25 and going till march without the debt limit, which is going to be extreme fight. larry: that's all the more reason, you know, why you don't want to delay so-called second tax cut bill. stuff it in because the calendar is working against you and not the senate politics but house politics and they're very, very difficult and you know, rand and

paul and going for the smart fella and look, it's not the debt ceiling that matters and it's the spending that matters. okay. to me trump is right, the debt ceiling is like sand to throw it in the gears and shut downs government and going for nuclear de-honorment and done a lot make sense and going for regular order or decent bills or pay goes and nobody even talks about pay goes anymore. why is that? passing appropriation bills and giving the weapon and this is a weapon and going with trump and i wanted to get rid of the debt

limit and going to get rid of it and pass this and he knows chuck schumer is going to use this as a weapon and it gave you a point on this last week and i was negotiating with democrats and we had a deal to actually clean the slate, clean the slate the full year aprop ration bills and include the debt limit in it. we had a deal that was ready and pulled the funding bill and not giving the debt limit "because i need it for negotiation power". he wants to hold the economy literally hostage. you know this. if we start messing with the debt limit and god forbid we default, our economy will suffer and our currency will suffer and president trump wants to take this weapon away from chuck schumer right now and fast forward to where we are, this is the moment and if we think of fy25 by the time the cr is fully

expired, which will be march into fy tarik half the year is baked and not going to find $2 trillion with a cut and what's smarter is clear the debt now and get fy25 out of the way and thing going to be trillions and it's 100% phase and will doing this half the time and messing around with fy25 and going for them. and larry: handshake are made and i don't know if it's the print of the bill or not. talk about side hustles but we'll see about that. my point is we're heading towards, you know, $40 trillion total debt. we're heading the way to $30 trillion of debt in public hands and i want to give working

folks more and put more pun in their pocket and i want to assure them and going to be a tax hike and i want to make sure the small business know we're here to help and it's going to follow through on their propses and going for things like no tax on tips and going for them and all that is extremely good and i don't want to wait and talk about going for negotiation and we're going for them to get to that in six months. larry: i want to say we'll get to that next week. tomorrow, monday, and that's going for conservatives like yourself and rand paul and others and hopefully you can all hold feet to the fire and get spending cuts and i fear that even republicans are kind of forgetting about spending cuts, don't they, sir. sometimes. >> president trump proving this in office and putting more money in the american people's hands

and take out of washington dc, they invest it wisely and solve the economy and rear its head and coming back and saw the greatest economy we had in decades and made president trump's leadership and we saw the irs, treasury start actually collecting more money. we started seeing negative deficit spendings just because we did tax cut because we trusted american people to spend their own money rather than send it to washington dc and allow bureaucrats to spend it and then having elon making strong cut in wasteful spending. we're great at that point. larry: all right. senator markwayne mullen, thank you, sir. appreciate it. happy christmas, sir. switching gears. fani wallace joins democrat law fair retirement party, okay. that's one way to put it. joining me onset is gregg jarrett. she's not onset but she's

retired. >> her case is deader than a door nail as i said it would be. when the trial court judge said, well, only one of you has to recuse yourself because of the conflict of interest and appearance of im impropriety and they're nonsense guilty of the same offense and go odell beckham jr arkansasology that and columbia in addition opportunistic interest -- on the conflict of interest and impropriety. larry: the boyfriend was in washington getting briefed on this. >> twice. yeah, he was dumb enough to bill the state for it. larry: speaking of side hustles, what was he doing now -- was she down there too? >> up there from georgia. larry: i beg your pardon, my geography. >> it's a little unclear.

she did make a trip up to washington but nay tan wade submit -- nathan wade submitted bills to the taxpayers for his trip to the white house. my memory is fuzzy and you've got a no nothing prosecutor and traveling to the white house, he'll remember every minute of every conversation he had at a biden white house so he's just stone walling there. i think when the new administration comes in and they take a look at what was going on there they're going to find astonishing stuff. larry: when does he say uncle? >> he never will. larry: his whole political life. >> his game is over and it'll be reversed eventually. larry: great stuff. >> good to see you. larry: merry christmas.re back with my sidale hustle.

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larry: merry christmas, seasonings greetings to all my friends and tax cuts make a lovely gift every year. never fails and a lovely gift and nice box of chocolates and open it and there's beautiful tax cuts in there. i hope the gop remembers that and i hope my friend liz macdonald is cake it and run with it as always. liz: give me that for christmas, larry. i look forward to th