larry: merry christmas, seasonings greetings to all my friends and tax cuts make a lovely gift every year. never fails and a lovely gift and nice box of chocolates and open it and there's beautiful tax cuts in there. i hope the gop remembers that and i hope my friend liz macdonald is cake it and run with it as always. liz: give me that for christmas, larry. i look forward to the cuts.

larry: lizy, for you. liz: larray, you're the best, merry christmas to you. larry: you too. liz: welcome to the evening edit, i'm elizabeth macdonald. >> capitol hill is ground zero for a new type of chaos. >> welcome to chaos monkeys. the house is moving to vote to stop a government shutdown. gop says it is united and unified and will democrats try to wreck it? plus, we'll dig into, again, this manufactured drama about all of this and took going on the parties and we'll have more on the latest and also tonight, new details on the horrific car

attack on christmas market in germany and a suspect arrested and cassioppiizations of terrorism and -- acuizations of terrorism and two injured and two dead. latest news on the ground. right to this. right to grady trimble. he's live on capitol hill with the latest on house moving right now to vote to avoid a government shut down that could strike at midnight tonight. grady, what is happening right now? good to see you. reporter: good to see you too, liz. the house has reconvened and they're debating this new bill, put together today after much discussion between house speaker mike johnson and haw -- hakeem jeffreys and democratic congresswoman rosa delauro going for them being optimist and i can they have enough support after that bill voting down

yesterday. and this is essentially the same bill as yesterday and myonows the provision that would raise the debt ceiling and republican president elect trump chimed in saying he wanted republicans to raise the debt ceiling now till 2027, early this morning he said he wanted to push it back even further to 2029 or suspend it indefinitely but now what republicans have done is removed that language that e caused issues within the caucus and it's funding to keep the government open till mid march and itd aid for farmers. because of the way that house leadership bringing to the floor and some democrats have to get involved and many are optimistic and many republicans i should say are optimistic about their

chances with the particular bill and i will note, liz, is that not heard from president elect trump about this and on matters such as these and we'll have to wait and see. we also know that democrats had a meeting behind closed doors kind of a -- probably a pulse check to see where everyone is at this point and that was around 5:00 and now you can see some of them on the house floor and we are expecting a vote on this bill and ark in the next 10 minutes. liz: grady trimble, thank you so much. we'll stay on this. reporter: you bet. >> i'm absolutely sickened by a

party that campaigned with fiscal responsibility and going forward with the american people and say you think this is fiscally responsible. >> excuse pea, i'm not done talking and give me the same respect we give you guys. if you so choose to shut it down, it'll be on you but not the republican party. >> democrats voted to shut down the government evansville though we had a clean c ryan higgins not to give the president negotiating leverage during the first term. liz: those were fireworks on the floor of the house last night. democrats tried to shut down anna paw paulina luna. what are the status of the talks and three dozen lawmakers vote the against the cr bill and you voted for it. what is happening right now.

now? >> right now the bill is on the floor and under suspension and we'll need two-thirds of the house to pass it, yes, we'll need some democrats to cross over and pass it. this bill is like the last one except like the reportedder said and it doesn't have increase in the debt limit and everything should have been agreed to and it's a bill that both sides agree to and want. wonderful made a pledge to president trump in reconciliation, we'll increase a debt limit and look to at least $2.5 trillion in spending cuts or spending cuts are saving $2.5 trillion in the next ten years. so that's the make of the deal.

once he's the president, that's our pledge to him and this is a clean cr. liz: congressman, having covered dc for about 40 years, this is made up manufactured drama. congress knew about the done a lot deadline for months. congress has not done a budget on time practically every year since 1998. this is really a grand standing politicized blame game and democrats can go on camera due to distracting often false attattacks on the government. >> we're keeping the government open and number one, shut it down to reopen it, cost more money so we're saving money by keeping it open. second, there's things that we need to be produced moring of

plants -- liz: sorry, congressman. what is the chances they tank this on the spending bill and going where the government funded with continuing resolution and no budget and no one reads the crs and it's how government overspending, waste, fraud, creep in. congress has to start doing a budget and why won't the democrats step and you happen do that? why won't congress do it? will the democrats tank this bill? >> i don't think they'll tank the bill because if they tank this, they'll be blamed for shutting the government down. and they don't want to shut the government down either so i think this is going to pass. we do need to do a better job without a doubt of passing our appropriations bill and we've gone through five or six, we need to now, we have control of both house and senate and presidency. we need to have appropriations bill and we need to save money and put america on the right

track and both on the right track of policy but also fiscally put america on the right track in order to save the country and we've got about $36 trillion in debt right now and we cannot continue to accumulate it the way we've been accumulating it. liz: it's a new day in dc. congressman gimenez, merry christmas. >> merry christmas to you too. >> last question, do you think biden quietly quit? >> absolutely not. >> we'll see. if he don't do nothing over the next 30 days, i'm saying he quit. >> i know you've looked for answers several times. shouldn't americans hear from the president of the united states just hours from a shutdown? >> what's the next time people will hear from the president? syn>> i'm not getting to hypotheticals. liz: more and more reporters asking the white house why haven't americans heard from the president when the government is about to shut down and talking about chaos on and on. where's the president? welcome back to the show former

democraty press secretary to president trump hogan gidley. what do you make of them going to lead the fellow democrats amid the ongoing fight in democrats. >> this is the biggest scandal in political history. who's running the country and the sad part is i'm not giving grace or applaud to the mainstream media for covering in now when we all saw the physical and mental decline of joe biden from day one. this is often in the distance and the inability to complete simple sentences and the misuse of phrases and frailty and walking and everyone saw this and after that debate, the media didn't have a choice and they had to try and repair their horrible image by saying that and it's not a availability of the failures of the mainstream

media and who's running the country and a danger us to here domestically going for them. liz: digging deeper into that reporter on "the wall street journal" later on in the show and hit u.s. policy and foreign policy as well. we're staying on the story of the coverup of biden's decline from day one. turning back to this, democrats are attacking elon musk and doge and doge trying to block a inflationary spending bill and we've got a house doge caucus and feels like democrats done want the spotlights on what elon musk and twitter are trying to point out with $36 trillion in debt, it's inflationary and trump got a mandate from voters to stop bub bornly high inflation and -- stubbornly high inflation and the inflation gauge today and that report the pci price index and going for them and >> transparency and

account and the right now the votes continue to go on and are about to happen on the house floor. they're clearing the decks for donald trump to says you whoa what, the american people pointing out overwhelmingly voted for america first agenda. that's what they want. if this passes, donald trump has that ability to go out there and accomplish the things for the american people and all the promises he made, he'll keep them with the move tonight. they're going to expose what's going on in the government and it was the waste, fraud and abuse of what's going on and get talked about too much and democrats are terrified by that and should be. republicans and democrats have been doing this to the american people for a long time. but it's very clear that the deputy haves been put on notice

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jaire >> this version of biden is the best version of biden ever. >> his mental fitness and videos intentionally manipulated to make him look unfit. >> you chose a general majority of reference for the president and understand when you made that decision, you'd ignite a political fire storm with that language, didn't you? >> i could have written my report theirically that omitted -- theoretically that omitted references to the president eats memory and incomplete and improper report. >> that wasn't my question. liz: saw msnbc attacking anyone that covered biden's decline. adam schiff went after robert

herr for saying biden was too cognitively impaired to stand trial for taking u.s. secrets classified documents and fast forward nine months later and biden white house knew and covered up that biden was in decline from day one. we're joined by liz peek and the media cover it had up and biden's own cabinet officials stopped reaching out because they couldn't get through to him. who ran the white house? >> the b team, liz. that's the problem. i'd like to blame the b team for the fact that the foreign policy disaster ditto and the reality is joe biden running about ththings and probably wouldn't have been any better and this is joe biden's legacy and his entire presidency was built on a lie.

we knew it and knew he was mentally unfit for the job. he was mentally unfit for the job and everyone in the white house is complicit and the media dealing with this. liz: there's a foreign bill and biden was missing in action on this. the question is all of biden's decline and the coverup on america and chief lloyd austin and national security officialss and top members of congress could not reach biden during the afghanistan crisis. representative adam smith, he could not reach biden is biden

is his team were too optimistic and afghan government would stay in power and the white house actually had to cancel national security meeting ands biden was in decline. janet yellen could not reach biden is inflation hit a 40-year high. liz: syringe of 2021, they cut back biden's meetings and kept him under wraps and we'll stay on the story and had technical difficulties with liz peek and we want to give a recap and house is voting now and it's coming in at any moment. lawmakers expected to move on the spending bill to try and avoid the government shut down. the question is: will democrats try to tank this? this is the action. we're going to stay on the breaking news for you for this hour. christmas horror in germany. suspected terrorist attack and car crashed through barriers

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for laser measured floorliners, cargo liner, pet feeding system or the new garage wall protector. get your gift card instantly at wt.com liz: news co coming in and germn officials say some are dead and dozens injured after a car employeed into a crowd -- flowed into a crowd at a christmas market. alex, tell us about this story. reporter: hi, liz, it's a heart breaking story and crowds of people enjoying the holiday at this christmas market in germy when a car employeed through thd

through a crowded market and one dead is believed to be a child and 68 people injured and 15 of them have serious wounds. these again are people who are spending the beginning of their weekend, the last friday before christmas, by those last minute christmas gifts getting dinner and early on in the evening and children were there at the time. one person is in custody and jeremy officials say germany say the driver was from saudi arabia and this is the map where it took place and is the perpetrator acted alone. all of this took place as the country was already on heightened alert with government officials telling people to re-pain jim clyburn lent at christmas markets and that's because of what we saw take place nearly eight years ago today.

that was when a man stole a truck in berlin and crash that had truck into a crowded christmas market as well. that attack killed as many as 12 and wounded 50. another person died because of that, five years later showing that despite the fact we are hearing these numbers of how many people might be wounded tonight, liz. we know that german officials say the death toll could rise and even despite what the death toll might be and those sustained injuries and more than 68 people could have long lasting if not life threatening and life lasting injuries because of this. liz: just horrendous. beth van duyne. it's a merry christmas and thank you for taking time to talk to us and so the house is in the interim spending bill and going for them now. >> they're on the floor debating

and we haven't opened up votes and we have met in conference and i had a meeting with small group of speaker and going for them with jd vance this morning and trying to figure out how to prevent the government getting backs into appropriation bills and going for them and it's i can't in good conscious pass another spending bill. people are clear, it's the economy, stupid, we can't continue this wasteful amount of government spending. for the first major bill we're going to be passing with massive election, that gave majority to the senate in it and congress and gave up a presidency for president trump and i think passing a bill that continues these nancy pelosi sponsorship type of programs is insane.

liz: voters said no and they voted for trump to stop this and they have so many problems for them and it's a high terror threat. border patrol arrested a south african national on the terror watch list going to enter legally and president biden is accused of opening the border and the accident in texas with president trump filed an amicus brief suing to stop biden for auctions off border wall materials. trump is saying that's possibly criminal. texas just launched a billboard campaign inside mexico and central america to stop illegals from crossing. they say you'll be arrested if you try to do that. show the billboards and there's a lot of,s right now. so democrats want to tie republicans up in spending fights and tie up the trump agenda in spending fights and all that going on. >> i'm proud of my state and texas has been taking it seriously from the get go. we've been calling out biden administration for up for texas

to get the walls and sell or build the wall. it went on deaf ears and texas taking up the effort that the federal government failed on and instead of appreciating the effort texas has had, the federal government has sued the state and it's trying to undo all the good work. i'm excited to have president trump come in and excited to get tom homan in to take our border security seriously. hundreds of thousands and it's about friendsatfoxnews.comingen time. liz: coming down and lowering

illegal crossings at white house and biden trying to take credit for trying to sue texas and arizona going for them and do you think democrats will try and tank them for the interim bill? >> absolutely. they'll try and do that with a reconciliation package and trump gets selected and as soon as there's majority of that in the senate and it's very important and it's an overwhelmingly supported by american people and telling from the november election and that's what they want to be concerned about and they're concerned about what's happening in the economy and you'll have people in the trump administration willing to partner for those of us in congress and want to fight. this is what we are ready to produce. we're ready to do that. we love to have democrat support and we're log do it without.

liz: congresswoman van duyne, thank you for being with us. merry christmas. >> you too. >> welcome to elon musk presidency. >> speaker musk right now. >> i think elon musk believes he's president. i do. i call him vice president and president because i don't know what jd is doing. >> he's the head dude in charge. >> unelected president. >> unelected oligarch governing by tweet. >> president elon musk exerting over the house republican conference than any president in the white house would. >> some republicans and former republicans are afraid of donald trump right now as vice president trump, that's not going to sit well. >> they'll have to get together and decide who the president s. liz: media watch dog say this is why msnbc ratings and cnn ratings are in a crash. now the democrat attack is not on stopping inflationary spending that raises your taxes and raises inflation, pork and

waste. we understand the issues with elon musk and he is pointing it out on twitter and no, ma'am dating the spending area. let's bring in bob narro nardel. stopping that new interim bill and make of all the action in dc now and new democrat media attack lines and going for musk.

>> when will they wake up that passing out a news flash, a anywheretive and everybody kind of fa falls in line like sheep going over a cliff. it's surprising to me they use the same tactic. it didn't work, it won't work here. they're trying to create a chasm between president trump and elon musk and i oh hope it doesn't work. i hope it just rolls off their back and the american public have voted. liz: let's focus on the propses made and promises kept. the democrats dropped a house

bill and going for them to move on it and they have the attack line and going for them and shutting them down and stopping the social security checks and that's a separate bucket. that's mandatory spending and not affected by shut downs and the media citing musk for dis-was when they're out there doing the disinformation. >> if they say it long enough and loud enough, they think the american people will believe it. they will not. we saw in the election, they basically again didn't say anything publicly and they went into that booth, they voted and voted very articulate and with a lot of intention about they're not happy with what happened the last four years and prior guest was talking about the border and immigration. we're talking about surrendering energy and talking about all kinds of things we need to stop

this and make sure they don't shut the government down and regained our global perspective if you saw the president at notre dame, the world leaders flocked to him to shake his hand and get a perspective. why do we embarrass ourselves with what's going on in this house right now, elizabeth? liz: making a important point, with elon musk and twitter, america has woken up and they're tuned into the clown show as tommy tuberville call it is in dc and the congress knew for months and months that the budget deed line was coming and the congress has not passed a budget on time since 1998 and it's like seven out of 14 fiscal years they have been doing continuing resolutions in the dead of night and they don't read the bills and they basically shove it down the

american people's throats and sneak in government pork and waste at eleventh hour and nobody reads like just trying to redefine the the democrat criticism and feels like a distraction of nuts and bolts of this happening and you point out, bob, inside dc. jot prior speaker passing the bill and reading the bill. i haven't heard anything so outrageous as that and we're blessed to have a president that ran a business. that actually knew what it took to run a business. understood what it takes to make a payroll and what it makes to have profitability and reinvest and create 401(k)s and i hate the bashing of corporate america, elizabeth. corporate america is made up of

americans that work hard and return investments of shareholders and equally important are the pension funds that invest in the corporations and provide sustainability for people that have worked hard for a number of years and expect to live off their pension and it's just boggling the mindliz feels like republicans are called rhinos or republicans and named

only. are they grow ago spine and senator john kennedy demanding they do to stand up to democrats because now the status quo is over. it's not going to happen anymore the way washington dc has been run. do you think it's changing right now? >> definitely is and i'm calling senator kennedy always is very enjoyable to watch and voter amazon and bias is fine. middle market, lower middle market and families. we're leaving an era with a lot of pessimism and now i see those people moving to the middle and i see optimism becoming optimistic. commitments and are innovate and evaporate and people coming away and investing for them i haven't

seen the last four years. proof that we have the energy and commitment and resolve to get back on track, elizabeth, i couldn't be happier to be part. it's the best in a long time. liz: thank you, bob. get update on action happening now in dc. grady trimble joining us live on capitol hill with the latest on house voting right now. grady, what's happening right now? i want the vote is on, liz. i want to take you to the house floor to see it and watch it with us. they've cost them in favor of the new bill and 18 democrat haves voted and you can see at the bottom of the screen as you look at house floor. there's a clock ticking down with the time remaining. that's the time left we go for

that and them in the check out for them t the end of term and going to wait till this closes and see if republicans have that two-thirds threshold that they need house deputies held a meeting and many told our crews as they were leaving the meeting heading to the house floor going to vote in favor of this proposal was going to give republicans the votes they need to get to that two-thirds threshold to pass the bill and voted down yesterday and this is essentially the same bill with some minor tweaks and changes with the big change and it

removes the farmers and disaster relief for hurricane victims and it seems to be something that more democrats can get behind compared to yesterday, which on that proposal only two democrats voted in favor of it already we have 23 democrats who voted in favor of this proposal. something to keep an eye on over the next six minutes and see what happens on the house side and then of course it comes over here to the senate side and they'll do a similar process. liz: grady, you're sticking with us and dollar appoi amount for s part of it? >> i don't know for the disaster aid. i'll look into t liz.

liz: grady, thank you. bob nardelli is back with us. grady reporting that democrats are climbing on board with the spending bill. >> yeah, liz, can i comment on what looks like 15 republican nays. you know, these are people that never played team sport. they're interested of them playing on the back of the jersey than the brand on the front. one thing i would give credit to the other party, whether they're right or wrong, whether they're telling the truth or not, they stick together. and it's just disappointing that now it's up to 17 people that can't get on the band wagon and get this done. then they've got two more years that aren't up for reelection to help us get this country back on track. look at number going up. it's just unconsciousable and it's disappointing as heck. liz: bob, this is interim spending bill and they're coming back to spending problems and the budget in march. are you worried that the trump tax cuts and trump agenda will

get tied up in the spending fights? >> yeah, there's no. i'm not an expert and going for them and how they'll score this tax bill relative to the debt. i'm not sure if this is correct or not. they need to pass, they need to pass that resolution also to make sure we can get this new tax bill or this extension of the tax bill in place and sounds like it will be a bat and will we're going to, the republicans have to stick about that and control of the house and more. liz: we got a lot of talk out of biden white house and democrats and media they were giving trump a strong economy and cbo came out with numbers saying trump is not inheriting the strong chips act and it's like flat lining to

2% growth to the downside down to 1.9 and 1.5 and higher growth rate and sticky inflation. >> we have seen what we're inheriting if you look at automotive and seeing thousands of people. the ev mandate and looking at them. going for 30 football fields in michigan. mary bower walked away from autonomous car situation and $10 billion. jim farley closed two shuttered potential factories in the makings down at tennessee. $4.6 billion on ev. can't sell an f-150 lightning. this electric mandate they put out there, then you got the tail wagging the dog with california, what that governor wants to do

and of course this is listening to that nonsense. this is one false step, one debacle after another that we talked about over the past three years. liz: i don't know how the biden white house thought it was a smart idea to put electric car mandates and other mandates on top of a struggling u.s. economy trying to get out from government shut downs and many blasted as wrong after the pandemic and grady trimble, back to grady. there's action happening now. is the house voting to sort of suspend the vote. what's going on? reporter: no, they're voting right now to, i believe, this is on the bill itself, liz. it was suspending rules and pass and that refers to rules they have to follow in order to pass legislation and they've skipped the rules committee it would go through and now they've put it straight to the floor so two-thirds vote is what they're looking forward to passing the bill. liz: grady, this sounds like they're fast tracking it? reporter: yeah, that's exactly

right. liz: looks like it could pass? is that what it feels like to you, grady? >> that's what it's looking lying right now if the vote closing right now with a minute left and can be extended and about 194-22 who say no. i will point out that of course is a two-thirds majority and they've suspended normal rules process and that's why the house needs two-thirds and that's why the republicans need more democrats to get on board with this process. if they went through the normal rules process through the rules committee, that take as quite a bit longer and time is of the essence right now and house would have only needed a simple majority with what means republicans alone could have passed it, but instead today the house speaker mike johnson and house leadership decided to go this route. pension route and looking favor and will feedback from democrats voting in favor of this passage

is favorable, and now we're waiting to see when the vote closes what the result will be. by the way, there's a quote from speaker johnson answering a question from the press and he says "i think we're going to pass this". he's optimistic right in this moment. liz: you always needed grady trimble to make the sausage making fun and viewable. skunk work and going for them and cj pearson going back for them and cj, when you see the action out of dc and calls about chaos and seeing the attacks on elon musk, the distracting attacks by media and democrats, blaming elon musk as twitter is exploding with details on government waste, pork, and overspending that is taxation that does create inflation and you see what is going on, does it feel like a new world to you, cj, that america is waking up to what's going on in dc. >> does feel like a new world to

me and going from them with the mandate and he was given them for them blame elon musk and going for american people voting for this and going to get exactly of what they're going to deserve. liz: cj, elon musk, president trump, vivek ramaswamy talking about cutting 2 trillion in debt spend out of the u.s. government. the u.s. nowitzki debt is now $36 trillion. that's a really danger zone for the u.s. to be in as the cost of interest on that debt now surpasses budget for the pentagon. when you see stories like biden white house is hiring 1200 new diversity, equity, and inclusion river and the government and you see stories coming out here and we're seeing that the biden white house and million and dei throughout 430 u.s. agents seizure disseizure disorderses s

still spending into oblivion. >> you're exactly right, liz. the american people didn't mint any words and dei into die and that's what weariness going to bring about. i got to tell you, liz, i take this personally and i'm 22 years old and i'm tired of watching the swamp creatures borrowing my future with the reckless spending and no idea of how they'll make these cuts and actually ensure that my generation has the opportunity to grow up in america just as great as the one that they did. elon musk is a bold, decisive leader as it president trump and they'll be wise to follow their play and lead and when the coach says run the ball, better damn well run the ball. liz: think republicans will take it and run the ball? the first go round is kind of a scare that they basically were not really seeming up to the task of cuts waste.

they don't want to follow the play that coaches called and need to be primary and shone. liz: trump will primary people and elon musk going to use funding to fund people and politicians through primary going up against trump and non-on the board. you hear democrats in the media and president trump and they don't like the president trump relying on elon musk and elon musk primary politicians going that's the danger that democracy is somehow. >> they're completely incorrect and again, it goes back to the mandate of the american people giving to president trump and those that support them and it's to take the bold and decisive

action. this idea we need to pass the cr is false and getting back to voting oncosingle going to vote on disaster are eley funding and augusta, georgia, was decimated by hurricane helene and playing politics, go for that and perspective us to do and the swam doesn't well work 6789 and going for that to wake up for the call: liz: sleeping and living in tents in north carolina as criticism has been the biden white house was giving money overseas but the president was saying he wants $100 billion in disaster aid now for hurricane victims and disaster victims but giving money overseas. >> yeah, it's disgusting that president biden even in his last days in office continues to desecrate his office and

embarrass the american people and the oath to put the american people first. losing to put people that don't live in the country ahead of those living on cots in north carolina and many of which have lost their entire way of life and about to provide for families it's dis-customerring and surprising and&par for the course and in 30 short days, i'm excited that president trump will walk back into the white house and right this ship. liz: thank you, cj. let's get back to the action with grady trim and will what's happening on the floor of the house to move to stop a vote on the interim spending bill. what's happening right now, grady? reporter: i would say at this point, liz, it's looking extremely likely this will pass the house and the reason i say that is because if you look at numbers, the total is 312 in favor of this bill to keep the government open. 31 thomas mancino votes and it's important to note that the no votes on the republican side, on the democratic side, there's 59 outstanding votes people and

members that haven't voted yet and not a single one of the 59 democrats or i should say not a single one of the 152 democrats who are already voted have voted no. it's not done deal till the vote is officially closed and as i said, >> what this means is not a shut down is averted completely but the same bill is going to be presented to the senate floor and they'll go through a similar process here, but i think at this point, a lot of senators could be eager to go home and they may follow suit,

follow their counter parts on the house side. liz: grady trimble, you're going to be busy. thank you so much. bring in wall street pro, carol roth coming in to talk to us. what's interesting is the length of this interim spending bill was 118 pages long. that's about a tenth of -- less than a tenth of the first interim bill when it was loaded with all the pork and government overspending that got everybody in an uproar, karol. now democrats are saying, yes, to a slimmer bill of 118 pages. what was the big deal about the first go round? >> i dent know, it sounds like they got some ozempic, liz, for the bill that they were magically able to lose over 1,000 pages in just one night. that's incredible. it just goes to show you that if people use their voices and push back, which really is what x has enabled and elon musk enabled with free speech, it wasn't

about him. it's about the people saying this is ridiculous. nobody can digest a 1500+ page bill in 24 hours and vote on it. this is not what the people voted for. we want change. we want more responsibility and with 116 or 18 pages or whatever it is, it's still too many. i would have preferred to see the single issue bills. at least at this point there's time for digestion and understand what it is. liz: it's interesting and the media and democrats are calling trump hitler and now he's a puppet to elon musk. they don't like billionaire elon musk when george soros was pushing around policy for the democrats for so long. let's talk quickly about the democrats that oppose and republicans oppose to just doing away with the debt ceiling. trump initially suggest that had and he doesn't want to get the congress and house republicans entangled in fights again and again and again about the debt

ceiling and he's got to get his agenda through and bring down inflation and got to grow the economy, shut the border and more. that's his agenda, voters gave him the mandate and think, are you worry that had trump tax cuts and stuff getting entangled and more for democrats? is >> i'm concerned about fights with democrats and fights within the republican party. we do have a clear mandate and we have a very visionary set of people who are looking to disrupt business as usual, and i think this is just the first time we're seeing that when you disrupt business as usual. it's not that easy and congress will be in for a surprise and people start using their voices and say if you don't get on board with our mandate, you're not going to have a job the next time it comes umm for a vote. i'm hoping that strength of the people will give congress some pause and maybe get them to get on board with what it is the

people want so we don't continually have this political heater and these fights and, you know, the debt ceiling, it is what it is, but at the end of the day, if we want that to stop, we have to stop running the deficits because we need to finance those deficits somehow, liz, and i don't think we're having government bake sales, i don't think they're selling out at national parks and only choice is with debt. solve the debt problem, solve the deficits. liz: carol roth, thank you for your hard work and ba bock nardi and cj. they are voting not to shut down the government and have a spending bill and heading to the action. sending over to dagen and brian. that was a close one. what do you think, you >> the magic of maga and doge how it work this week.