>> you too. liz: happy new year. here comes the bell. the dow is within this hour alone doubling its increase here and we started up about 90, 80 points and thousand we're up 227 points and even better than a double here. s&p up about six po points and nasdaq can't do it down 4 and will russell is a nice day more than 1% and up 24 points. that'll do it for the claman countdown. big day tomorrow, don't miss it. larry: hello, folks. welcome to kudlow, i'm larry kudlow. paid hegseth delivered a big win on capitol hill for secretary of defense and reaction from secretary kevin cramer in the room and congressman and navy seal derrick van ordin and bionn

donalds and claude >> tenny waiting in -- claudia tenney waiting in the wings and a trump bump from small business and first up, pete hegseth shined today and that's the subject of the riff. pete hegseth shined today in four hour plus hearing to become secretary of defense. right off the top. he talked about his mission to restore the warrior ethos to the pentagon and rebuild the military and reestablish deterrence on the scene. >> president trump chose me for this position and primary charge he gave me was to bring the warrior culture back to the department of defense. he, like me, wants a pentagon, laser focused, on lethality, meritocracy, war fighting, accountability, and readiness. he believes, and i humbly agree, that it's time to give someone with dust on his boots the helm.

a change agent. larry: rather than the bureaucrat or even high ranking general, what somebody from the military industrial board room, mr. hegseth would be a soldier's emphasizing dust on the boots experience in the battlefield. take a listen to this one. >> i've led troops in combat and been on patrol for days, i've pulled the trigger down range, heard bullets whiz by, flexed cuffed insurgents, called in close air support, led med vacs, dodged ieds, pulled out dead bodies. and knelt before a battlefield cross. this is not academic for me. this is my life. larry: there you have it. standards very high in a hegseth meant gone, but woke and d pentagon but woke and dei very low. hegseth a highly decorated veteran serving in the

afghanistan and iraq cam bot zones said again -- combat zones said again and again he wants warriors readiness and lethality. here's yet another clip from today's hearing. >> woe won world war ii with seven four star generals and today we have 44 four star generals. there's an inverse relationship between the size of staffs and victory on the battlefield. we don't need more brock seizure disorders at the top -- bureaucracy at the top and more power in the bottom. larry: there'll be fiscal audits to curb waste and targeting spending increases in places like naval ships and deterrents and elsewhere in the pentagon budget and all the democrats could do with all four hours was just attack him personally. courting anonymous myrrhs that have never been -- smears that have never been proven and

incredibly partisan and not a single one showed any support for hegseth and yet none of the democrats acknowledged the biden failures in afghanistan or russia ukraine, or appeasement of iran, or faint hearted support for israel, or standing up to china. unbelievable. one of the themes in the november election was the importance of change. change in the economy, change this the illegal immigration, and on foreign policy. where suddenly under joe biden the world was on fire. hegseth will be unconventional change agent at the pentagon: he may even be a dis-republican torr. it's what the -- disrupter and it's what the country wants and he is a man of faith who, like the rest of us, has made mistakes in the past, but like all of us, sinners working to change himself. take a listen to this.

>> i'm not a perfect person, as has been acknowledged and saved by the grace of god by jesus and jenny. i'm not a perfect person, but redemption is real and god forged me in ways i know i'm prepared for. larry: i love that and my saintly wife know as thing or two about that as well. anyway, that's the riff this evening. joining us now to talk about it, north dakota senator kevin cramer who was a member of the armed services committee is in the room and welcome wisconsin congressman derrick van orden, who was a navy seal and thanks to both for coming on. senator cramer, you did testimony yourself there, which i really loved. hadn't heard that from you before, but in general, you're a man of faith, i'm a man of faith, pete hegseth is a man of faith, donald trump is a man of faith, but what did you take away from the hearing today?

>> well, larry, several things but the first is that pete hegseth is absolutely the right person for this job. not only the warrior ethos that president trump wants him to bring but people that underestimated or understated pete hegseth's intellectual capability have not been around him. he rattled off facts and figures and historical anecdotes like a pro. he was very comfortable in the room, and he had a lot of sport in the room as you might know. i've never seen a nominee for anything have as many supporters in a hearing room as he had today. then the other thing i took away is just how pathetic democrat haves become in a blatant hatred for no reason of donald trump and all things donald trump. i think in many cases the incoming that pete and his family have to take is because they resent donald trump more than pete hegseth. they just better get over it,

larry. the world is on fire to your point. we have had weak leadership for four years and seen the response to the world by that. the world is looking for a strong america again and pete hegseth is the absolute perfect person to lead that charge at the pentagon. larry: yeah, mr. van orden, i want your take on how unwilling democrats of the armed services committee. it's a real major league committee in the 123459 and the congress. i was quite surprised. none of them wanted to work with hegseth. none of them. really, just hammer away, hammer away, hammer away and a lot was the smear stuff, anonymous smears or knit picking and haven't commanded enough people in your life before as those senators have i think at one point, senator wicker said senators don't manage many people in their office either. that was a good rebuttal. were you surprised and what in

general did you take away from the hear something >> i was not surprised at all. there are no many moderates on the democrat side in the senate and that is a shame. here's what happened today, pete hegseth had a great day. donald trump had a great day. the american people had a great day. you know who had a horrible day? xi jinping, vladamir putin, kim jong-un, hezbollah and al shabaab and houthi rebels and because we have someone in the pentagon going to follow donald trump's lead and make sure there's peace in the world again and closer to world war ii than in my entire lifetime and time to project peace together and peace through strength and pete hegseth and pete is going to bring america across the line and protect our citizens and allies for the first time in the last four years. it's fantastic and we're thrilled and there's a bunch of navy seals and my brothers in combat and arms that came here today to support him and very very, very thankful that republican members and thank you, senator, that got pete hegseth into office and let's go.

america is back. larry: by the way, hegseth was not afraid to fight back. do we have the clip of him fighting back about the anonymous smears. take a listen, gentlemen, pete is a fighter and strong guy. here it comes. >> a small handful of anonymous sources were allowed to drive a smear campaign: all they were allowed to do was destroy me. why? because i'm a change agent and a threat to them because donald trump was willing to choose me to empower me, to bring the defense department back to what it really should be, which is war fighting. larry: shoves tough stuff, senator cramer. i mean, you know, hegseth not going to let anybody push him around. i washed the wholeling and -- i watched the whole thing and fair for me. some was rivetting and some embarrassing. what did you think? hegseth, you know, he can take a

punch but can give a punch back. >> appropriately so, larry. i think it's always a tough spot. tough to be the witness and and being the senator and he was to all of us. he really was and sit there and take a podium and going over and over them and going for them. in a lot of cases they were trying to cavanaugh him and they didn't like the fbi report and and all the people and democrats are on the report and other witnesses and didn't talk to hem or talking about that person. they want some sort of investigation that proves their narrative and more investigation until it does improve their narrative and the reality is the investigations have proven pete's narrative, these are just anonymous sources, smear campaigns, the democrats latched

onto it, frankly they looked very weak today i thought, and i hope that they can make a recovery because at the end of the day, we all have to get together and defend this country as one. larry: democrats have to learn they're not in control of the senate anymore. they're not in control of the white house. they're not in control of the house of representatives, and they are not in control of the policies either. i'm going to come back to that because mr. van orden talked about. one thing, i love this dust on the boots. he's been on the ground, in combat and dust on the boots and there's a wonderful colloquy with senator tim sheehy quizzing pete hegseth. take a listen to this. jowski what is the diameter of the rival round fired out of m4 a1 rifle? >> a 556. >> how many pushups can you do? >> i did five sets of 47 this morning. >> how many rounds of 556 can you fit in magazine of m4 rifle? >> depends on the magazine but

standard issue is 30, senator. >> what size rondos the m9 brett tafanely stan darling stone issue fine up for? >> a 9-millimeter, senator. >> what kind of batteries do you put in night vision goggle? >> duracell. [ laughter ]. >> right there representing qualifications that show you understand what the war fighter deal withs every single day on the battlefield. larry: so, duracell batteries and lots of pushups. very impressed and mr. van orden, he is kind of a soldier's pentagon chief, won't he be, if he gets it? he's a really, this will be the first time i can't remember in how long. he's sort of representing the actual soldiers combat, and he knows his stuff backwards and forward. now, i think that's what really matters, not these anonymous smears. did you see it that way? do you think the public, the

viewing public saw it that way, derrick? >> yes, i do. listen, i'm the longest serving enlisted member of united states military to ever be e lekked to congress in the history of our nation. here's what pete hegseth understands: the chinese communist party doesn't care what your pronouns are. they care about whether or not you can put more head on foreheads and that's what pete hegseth focusing on and increasing lethality and going for highest educated military and the most powerful military in history of the world with a war in 80 years and it's time for a change. that change's name is pete hegseth. heavyweights going to follow donald trump's lead as commander in chief and make sure that the united states of america and allies are protected from all enemies that are trying to destroy this nation. larry: kevin, it's important, we have to rem ditterman

accountability and fill yuri colinses of the past four years and i'm sorry more of that didn't come up today. i'm very sorry democrats won't talk about it. so be it. highly partisan and learning the hard way they don't control the senate. they don't control the presidency and they don't control the house and they don't control the policy. so be it. but, you know,ed, the retreat out of afghanistan was the first step and it was all downhill from there. he appeased vladamir putin and ukraine and don't, don't, well, putin did, did. he appeased iran, he unlocked all of the economic sanctions in iran. he tried to make a deal with iran. he was with his israel on days except when he wasn't with him and we couldn't tell. i never saw him snap back at china for example and never saw

him in the meetings with xi say what are you doing in the shipping lanes in the pacific, for example. or even look at what donald trump has done just in the first couple of weeks of his transition talking about those strategic value of greenland. strategic value of panama canal and monroe doctrine. this stuff back on our heels and now having a much bigger footprint and that's going from time to time and that's really the mission at hand and that's going to recover. and policy bonn fioed here and we have to -- bonn fied here and we recovered america first. >> we're going through the menu of failures that you just under this current president but by contrast and when donald trump was president and going to end wars and going to cover see the

beginning of one and joe biden helped overseas and ukraine and in israel fairly quickly because he's so engaged but a lot of it coming down to the point i made with pete at the very end in my questioning, deterrence is not just a weapons system, not just a nuclear tried a and it's a attitude. a attitude where you back up words with actions and words mean something and both to adversaries and allies, and donald trump has that. pete hegseth has that and in fact, i think pete hegseth with the dust on the boots, which i agree, larry, love that illustration, but what people should know about pete hegseth, while he's a dust on the boots sort of guy, there's no compromising intellectual capacity and he's a brilliant, brilliantmen man and extremely

eloquent on the points that matter. larry: he's princeton harvard and lot of fire power there. >> and still turned out well. larry: saying it beautifully. derrick van orden, are we close to a deal, a ceasefire deal and hostage deal with hamas finally? i'm reading about it, president trump has made mention of it. do you think we're close to a deal? can we trust hamas ever? >> no. we cannot trust hamas at all, ever. just as we cannot trust the mullahs to never have a nuclear weapon. i hope we're getting closer to a hostage deal and i think hamas understands that donald trump means exactly what he says, and i grieve for our israeli brothers and sisters that had children and mothers and fathers held hostage by these savages. what hamas better understand, when you touch a american and harm an american or allies, you'll never have another peaceful night sleep again. you're not going to.

we're root you out and find you and destroy you no matter how long it takes. let the hostages go now, and we may think about allowing you to live. that's a direct message to hamas. larry: mr. van orden, what you said and how, it's something donald trump would say, something pete hegseth would say, but it's something that joe biden never said in four years. just like you put t sir. and therein lies a brig part of the foreign policy worlds a fire business we've had to suffer through with america's decline and international prestige just the way you said it. anyway, time's running out. thanks to both of you. senator cramer, thank you, senator -- house member van orden. thank you, thank you for your service. both of you, appreciate it. coming up here, folks, we'll switch gear as bit. we'll come back to the hegseth hearings with some of the other guests but we're going to talk about this trump bump. another big increase in small

business confidence. very interesting. november and december right after the i election. we've got david malpas s and ej antoni and catch kudlow on fabulous fox business and for some reason can't get us at 4:00, text your favorite 9-year-old and she had show you how to dvr the show, and you will never miss a single pete hegseth premier show time. i'm kudlow, we'll be right back.

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larry: we're joined by ej antoni and david malpass. small business roaring to go, raring to go. this is the best in six years or seven years but i think one of the categories or two of the categories, ej, go all the way back to reagan 80s so the trump bump continues.

what do you think? >> absolutely, larry. we're looking at much more favorable environment with taxes and regulation and that's so important because so much of the regulatory apparatus of dc disproportionately harms small business and it's the driver of all the improvements under the first trump administration we'll sinaean dbrox the second trump administration and index and small business optimism index had biggest jump since the last time president trump was elected in november so november of 2024 was equal to november of 2016. my only caution here despite all this very rosie data is the fact that optimism about future

conditions does not pay current bills and what we're seeing at the same time that so many of these indexes show increase optimism and the index is deteriorating and that's a mess being handed to the trump administration. larry: david malpass, it would be a good thing if we had one big beautiful bill and deregulation and tax decrease and boarder and energy in this. markets to some extent, stock market and seeing it in the small business, they're counting on it. looks like that's the direction the republicans are going, one big beautiful bill. if you chop off taxes, for example, from the bill, might see some sagging and a trump bust instead of a trump bump. >> hi, larry, that's right. you need them all, taxes and regulation and can i, we need

energy and can i add to what ej was saiding, bank lending was really important and one thing that's falling the small business optimism is the bank regulators and obama, biden and hillary clinton regulators are gone and being replaced and you've got tim scott on senate side and scott bessent replacing janet yell and confidence goes up. yellen and confidence goes up. that's sustained and you're right, there has to be follow through and one big risk is that biden is leaving the cup board bare ask we got numbers on fourth quarter spending october through december. he spent $1.8 trillion. that's up 40% year over year. think about what a disaster that is. they've taken each part of the government and spent a massively as much as they can and so that's going to generate the need for the house and senate to get involved.

you know, they have the power of the purse. so there's -- i think going to have to be back filling for what biden did. larry: spending caps and that's what you need and $2 trillion defdeficit as far as eye can se. that's the biden legacy and prosperity and more than half the j jobs and more than half te jobs this past year come from government, whether federal, state or local. we're not really producing the kind of private jobs they're here and going for the kind of small business jobs and maybe till recently and it's all government jobs and that of course is part of the government spending. that's part of the $2 trillion deficit as far as the eye can see. republicans have the upper hand, but their work is cut out for them.

>> larry, that's 100% correct and so many of the jobs that look like they're private sector are actually paid for by taxpayers. when the government gives a grant to a school or hospital let's say and that school or hospital hires a nurse or they hire a teacher, you are still financing that job with thursday and saturday pay herb dollars ds and private sector jobs for every single job you'll finance with the taxpayer dollars and only can take a small portion of each person's income and allocate that to the job that's -- or should say use that money to fund the job that's paid for by taxpayer dollars. we see the same thing we consumer spending and gdp and disproportionate amount of consumer spending is government transfers. once again that's something that should really be counted on the government side of the ledger and that's why there's $2 trillion deficits as far as

eye can see and we got info from the treasury today. this is the worst start to fiscal year ever in our nation's history and this is the mess being left to president trump. we spent $10 billion last month in interest on the debt. that was over 66% of all personal income taxes we collect that had month. that's where we are today. larry: david malpass, just a minute to go and trump is ramping up on the tariff front and some people in the new administration would like to go slowly and maybe 10% ring around the call or tariff and 1 or 2% for a bunch of months and others would like him to go quickly. do you have a quick thought on this or quick recommendation? tariffs slow or hit them hard at the beginning of the

administration? >> larry, businesses look ahead so as long as you have a plan to re-industrial that'll work. that's why small businesses are up and one thing i want to note is they are the producers within the economy so they can bring inflation down by themselves if they're given a chance. so that's where the federal reserve is going to have to come in and give space for the growth that's coming. larry: let the fed do nothing and watch the trump program unfold. why does the fed always have to do stuff. i don't want them to do anything. nothing. nothing. go home. go to florida and play golf. don't do a darn thing till the trump program gets through. i'm serious. i'm tired of these spinning dials and this and that. >> get a better model. larry: and better fed. we're stuck with them for now. i know there's some lovely conned minups down south. got to get out. got to get out.

you're both great. david malpass, ej antoni, terrific stuff. coming up on kudlow, is the house on track for one big beautiful bill? i think so. we're going to ask house majority leader mr. scalise next up on kudlow. ♪

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anywhere day. larry: steve scalise from the defeat state of louisiana, welcome. i want to get to one, big beautiful bill in a second. your quick reaction for a moment on pete hegseth today in the house --? the senate armed services committee. >> yeah, great being back with you, larry. i thought pete did a really good job and, you know, you could see there's some people that are just trying to take chair cheap shots and people are fed up with that approach. and he showed why president trump picked him. he said there was only a few generals that won world war ii and we have over 40 generals today and it's very top heavy at pentagon and he wants to right side it and go in and focus on the war fighter on our men and women in uniform in the front lines and not all the big bureaucracy at the pentagon and some will be upset about that but most people in the country are hungry for the reforms that pete will usher in and he handled himself well. larry: that was a great moment when he laid that out.

and mr. scalise, one big beautiful bill and you're standing next it him and good timetable and end of february for a budget resolution. easter for reconciliation bill and all done by memorial day. why not? that's my point, why not. >> that's right, larry. we talked about this during the campaign and said we're not waiting till november 5 and gee wiz, i hope we win the house and senate and white house and we'll figure out what to do. we worked months ago and met with president trump months ago and meeting with committee chairs and laying out what we'd do, one big beautiful bill and ultimately what's in the bill is what matters to the country. that is getting real tax reform increase and getting energy policy right and opening up more american energy to lower costs, lower energy costs, lower food costs and get border security is going to be part of that. get all these crazy rules and regulations and how do you do

it? you do it through budget reconciliation and so i started early and had meetings with the membership and we had a large bulk of the members in this new class have never been through budget sec silluation and we were there in 2017, doesn't seem that long ago and for a lot of members they weren't here as part of the process and did an education process the last few weeks and had great participation there and you've got to put together a budget and senator arrington and i started that this week and we're sitting with obstructing cerumen two chit tees involved last time in 2017 and produced a great bill in tax and jobs act and weighs and means and natural resources and 8-10 excite tees involved, larry. that's a lot of different members and committees that will be workiing so the budget first and february, month of march drawing it up on the calendar

and 8-10 committee in congress working feverishly to find waste, fraud and abuse and talking hundreds of billions of dollars of savings from some of the excite tees where they'll be able to put real reforms in lace and do good energy policy and they're all part of what budget reconciliation is to get you budget savings to then go and put in place these tax cut so we don't have any trump tax cuts from 207 come back and hurt our economy. then you heard trump say no tax on tips and we're building that in and getting great economic benefit to the hard working family struggling for the weight of the failed biden chips act economy and turn it around and get america moving again and there's a bold agenda because people don't want to rate. get it moving quickly. larry: you had hr1 energy and

passed that. you were on the show unveiling it. jowski unveiled hr1 on your show. gave you a hard hat. larry: still have it. hr2 with the border closing and jason smith doing the tax stuff and outlined a very interesting budget process, that sounds terrific. getting something through by easter or memorial day, that's terrific. the blue collar boom and working class coalition that elected mr, sir. it can all be done that quickly. >> it will happen and it'll happen quickly. we saw, you know, with the tax cuts and jobs act unfortunately because congress and the president were not on the same page in 2017. it took us a year to get that bill signed into law. we lost invaluable time and the

economy staggered and shrugged till it was passed and families are spending more money in their pockets and mattessers to them. this time around and it's that curve and we're all on the same page. system things in hr1 that don't fit urn the limitations of budget sec silluation and the things that dorks we want to put them in the bill. same with border policy. the same thing by the way with them going last time. it'll be work requirements and some of the things needing to happen to get real efficiency out of government and savings in the tune of tens and hundreds of billions of dollars, people are fed up throwing their money down trash cans and watching the government pay people not to work.

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larry: more reaction to the pete hegseth victory today. byron donalds and claudia tenney. welcome back. both very good friends and democrats are not controlling the governor. >> didn't see all that in the ways and means meeting and he was very good and poised and hoe answered the questions fairly and trying to attack them personally and secretary of defense and looking forward to

having him confirmed and looking forward to january 20th like never before. it's been an exciting day. and. larry: did you cut taxes today? >> we're trying and trying to get the tax cuts and jobs act renewed, we're fighting the democrats on that too. larry: there we go. byron, good to see you and happy new year to both of you. >> happy new year. larry: byron, on this point, i thought hegseth was brilliant. his knowledge of the job and knowledge of soldiers and his knowledge of combat warfare was incredible and i thought the democrats, they don't understand that they're not controlling the government anymore. no white house or house or senate and they don't have the policy. they were at war with hegseth and, you know, not china or russia for example.

>> eisen agree, larry. pete hegseth was phenomenal and this morning he had real command of issues and democrats bring bing in super in the weeds and that's handled by ace sis taint secretary of that portion and going by any cabinet secretary and granular and trying to trip him and you happen couldn't do it and pete hegseth bringing vision, resolve and helping us increase recruitment at department of defense for all of our armed forces, which is what we critically need so he's going to do great and the democrats are in a mess and shambles and don't know what they're going to do and want their parties to be spirittive of israel and going to be with hamas or hezbollah? or stand were women in women sports? obviously today on the house floor, there were a bunch of democrats that chose not to stand for women and they got decision to make, not my fight. we'll wish forward with the agenda of donald trump.

larry: great stuff. come back too, claudia, i want both of you in and no blank check for governor gavin newsom. look, what's happening in california, los angeles area is a night natural rights approach, it is -- nightmare and apocalyptic and horrible. everybody agrees with that. what the cost will be, we don't know. estimates are now ranging upwards of $200 billion and may be worse than that. the federal government always tried to be humane. my point though, wouldn't it be humane if federal assistance was joined by new policies in california, and i mean legislative policies at the state level. i mean, to get the water to run, to fill up the reservoirs and having the right forest management. you know the story as well as i do, as well as our viewers do. all the things that have gone wrong and instead of just giving money away, shouldn't we insist on some changes in the policies

of california? starting with you, claudia? >> absolutely. look at my state, we should be doing the same thing with the state of new york and absurd catastrophic policies that are in place. california is a disaster. the same people weren't concerned of the people in north carolina or florida who we've tried to help. it's really important, and they caused this problem. we have the same problem in new york, larry, by the way. we're cleaning out and not taking care of our forests the way they should be managed and we're in the human environment and same problem routinely in california ask they were obstructionists and trying to cap insurance under proposition 103. guess what that did, it chased insurers out of the states and many don't have fire insurance and there's a competitive marketplace and merit-based system and free markets and none of that is happening in california and new york. there's marxist re-seems and they're spending money on the special session to combat donald trump. the american people put donald trump in office and they want to

see him. he won the popular vote. this is the fifth largest economy in the world, california, and they're destroying it. we've got to put those in place and it's a great leverage point and by the way talking with president trump on saturday nighted with the meeting and he was all for it. larry: i mean, you know, byron, you want to be humane. the federal government is there to help when help is necessary, but to keep the same mistakes over and over again and throw this money at climate change instead of reservoirs and fire hydrants and so forth, it's a form of insanity, and the federal government should not be in the insanity business anymore. >> i totally agree. we ante-can't be in the insanity business and to be perfectly clear, it is massively expensive. to the people of california, we're going to answer the bell ask come and provide help and assistance. not -- werenski not going to stand here and watch the legislature and the governor continue down the same road of terrible policies that do not

help mitigate these disasters when they come. look, in florida, we see hurricanes every single year but under the leadership ophryon desantis and our state legislature, we've mitigated the damage by prepositioning assets and taking care of the floodplains and managing our forcenterses and we're doing control -- forests and we're doing controlled burns right now in january in preparation for the summertime in florida so the damage is limited. if we're doing it in florida, there's no reason california is not doing it. you're not going to waste taxpayer money and not get the job done. larry: terrific stuff. thank you, both of you. great friends, byron dodgeds, claudia tenney. thank you, very, very much. i'll be right back with my last word. ♪ which penetrates deep to target the source of pain with nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory medicine directly at the source. voltaren, the joy of movement.

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