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and claudia tenney. but first, pete hegseth shined today. that is the subject of the riff. pete hegseth shined today in his 4 hu hour plus hearing to pe become secretary of defense, talking about his mission to restore warrior eths on to pentagon. >> when president trump chose me for this position primary charge he gave me to bring warrior culture back to the department of defense, he like me wants a pentagon laser focused on lethality, meritocracy, war fighting accountability and readiness. he believes, i agree, that time to give someone with dust on his boots the helm, a change agent.

>> rather than another but c bureaucrat or high ranking general, mr. pete hegseth would be a soldier emphasizing his dust to boots experience in battlefield. >> i have led troops in combat, i have been on patrol for days, i pulled trigger down range, heard bullets wiz by, called in close air support, pulled out dead bodies. and knelt before a battlefield cross. this is not academic for me. this is my life. >> there you have it standards will be high in a pete hegseth pentagon but woke and d.e.i. will below. hegseth, a highly decorated veteran who in afghanistan

come w zone said he wants warriors, readiness, and lethality. here another clip from the hearing. >> we won world war ii with 7 four-star generals, today we have 44, there is an inversion relationship between the size of staffs, and victory on the battlefield, we don't need more bureaucracy at the top. we need more war fighters and power at bottom. larry: there will be fiscal audits to curb waist there will be targeted spending increases in places like naval ships and nuclear dedeterrence, all democrats could do was attack him personally, quoting anonymous smears, never proven edemocrats partisan, not a single one

showed any support for hegseth, yet none acknowledge t the biden failures in afghanistan or russia-ukraine or appeasement of iran or standing up to china. unbelievable, a theme in november election of the importance of change, change in the economy, change in the illegal immigration and on foreign policy. where suddenly under joe biden the world was on fire. pete hegseth will be an unconventional change agent at pentagon maybe even's disrupter, it is what country wants he is also a man of na faith. take a listen to this. >> i'm not a perfect

person. as has been acknowledged, saved by the grace of god by jesus and jennie. i'm not a perfect person. but redemption is real. and god forged me in ways that i know i'm prepared for. larry: i love that i love that my saintly wife knows a thing or 2 'that, that is the riff, joining us kevin cramer, was in the room. we welcome wisconsin congressman derrick van orden a navy seal, thank you both. senator kramer, you did testimony yourself there, i rail loved. had not heard that from you before. in general, you are a man of faith, and i am and pete hegseth is and donald trump. is what did you take away from hearing today. >> larry, several things first thing is that pete

hegseth is absolutely the right person for this job. not only warrior ethos, but people that under state pete hegseth's intellectual cape cal capability have not been around pete hegseth, he rattled them off like a pro he was very comfortable in the room, he had a lot of support in the room, i in never seen a nominee for anything have has been supporters in hearing room. and then other thing, how pathetic democrats have become in just their hatred for no reason, of donald trump and all things donald trump, i think many cases, that the incoming that pete and his family have to take, are pause they recent donald trump, more than they r

resent pete hegseth. we have had weak leadership for 4 years, we have seen response from the world to that. larry: mr. van orden our take, i was surprised at how unwilling democratic members of the armied services committee, a real major league committee in senate. i was surprised. nounone of them wanted to work with pete hegseth just hammer away. a lot of it was sm smear stuff or nitpicking. you have not c commanded enough people in your life. were you surprised mr. van van orden and what did you take from the hearing?

>> i was not surprised at all. there are no more moderates on the democrat side in senate, that is a shame. here is what happened today. pete hegseth had a great day, don donald trump had a great day, american people had a great day, you know who had a horrible day, xi jinping, vladimir putin, and hezbollah, and al qaeda, houthi rebels because we got someone in pentagon, who will follow donald trump's lead and make shire sure we have peace together. we are closest to world war iii than we have been in my lifetime. we will protect our citizens and allies it is fantastic. we're thrilled. there is a bunch of navy seals, my brothers in combat in arms came to support him, we're than full republican members and thank you senator that got pete hegseth into office, let's goamerica it back.

larry: pete hegseth of the not anxiety parade to fight back -- pete hegseth was not afraid to fight back, can we run that clip. here it is. pete is a fighter. >> small handful of anonymous sources were allowed to drive a smear campaign all they were out to do mr. chairman to destroy me. and why? because i am a change agent, and a threat to them because donald trump was willing to choose me to empower me to bring defense department back to what it should be. should is war fighting. -- which war fighting. larry: that was some, tough stuff. you know, pete hegseth not letting anyone push him around, i watched the whole thing it is rare for me. it was rivetting. some was embarrassing, but what did you think, pete hegseth, you know, he could take a punch but give a

punch as well. >> and appropriately so, always a tough spot, tough to be witness, you want to be respectful, he was the, to all of us. he was. and you about should no not have to sit there and take a punch in the nose over and over without defends yourself a bit, he struck a prefer balance. and a lot of cases they tried to kavanaugh him, they were trying to for example, they don't like fbi report because it didn't go deep enough, they didn't talk to enough people, all they -- questions about fbi report, and other w witnesses when they didn't talk to my person, they want some sort of a investigation that proves their narrative. and when that does not prove it they want more investigation. the investigation from o proven pete's narrative they were anonymous sources smear campaigns democrats launched

on to it they looked weak today, i hope they can make a recovery, at end of day we have to get together and defend the nation as one. larry: democrat have to learn they are not no control of senate or white house. they are not in control of the house. and they are not in control of the policy either. mr. van ord everyone talked van orden talked about it, i love the dust on boots here, has been on the ground, in combat, dust on boots, now here is a senator tim sheehy quizzing pete hegseth. >> what is the diameter of rifle round fired out of m4. >> that is a 5, 5, 6. >> how much push ups can you do. >> i did 5 sets of 47 this morning. >> how many rounds 5, 56 can you fit in magazine. >> department -- depends on magazine,

standard issue is 30. >> and what size round msize bar it's. >> 9 9 millimeter. what kind of battery you put in your night vision goggle. >> duracell. [ laughter ] >> right there you rip qualifications -- represent qualifications that show you know what war fighter deals with every day on the battlefield. >>tu duracell batteries and a lot of push ups, he is kind of a soldier's pentagon chief. he isa really, a -- this will be first time i can't remember in how long, sort of representing actual soldiers combat and he knows his stuff. i think that is what really matters, did you see it that way? do you think public viewing

public saw it that way. >> yes, i do, i am longest serving enlisted member of u.s. state military to be electioned to congress in history of our nation. and here is what pete hegseth understands. that chinese communist party does not care what your pronouns are they care about whether you can put warheads on foreheads that is what pete hegseth is focusing on when he talks about increasingl lethality, we have highest education military, and powerful we have not won a war in 80 years, this is time for a change. that change's name is pete hegseth who will follow donald trump's lead as commander in chief, and make sure that the united states of america and our allies are protected from all enemies, that are trying to destroy the nation. larry: you know kevin, i think it is important we have to remedy all of the

appeasement and dpail failures of past 4 years, i am sorry more did not come up today, i am sorry very democrats will not talk about it, so about it. they have to learn hard way they don't control senate or presidency or the house. or the policy, okay. but, you know, afghanistan was sense the beginning of the end, retreat from afghanistan was beginning of end of biden presidency, he never achieved popularity numbers, it all down hill from there he appeased vladimir putin. don't -- well putin did, did he appeased iran, and unlocked economic sanctions in iran. he tried to make a deal with iran. hihe was with israel but on days when he wasn't. we could not really tell. which was -- i never saw him snap back at china for example. i never saw him in the

meetings with xi jinping say, what are you doing in shipping lanes in the pacific? or even looks at donald trump has done in first couple weeks of his transition, talking about the strategic value of greenland and panama canal and monroe doctrine we're back on our heels, now, we're going to have a bigger footprint that is -- kind of came out in this hea hearing. we have to recover our foreign policy. america first. >> no question. pete did a great job of addressing that. including through the menu of failures that you just dunder this current president. but contrast, when donald trump was president, he either ended wars or prevented them. he didn't oversee the beginning of one, now i

think you see him insome wars that joe biden has helped oversee. and probably ukraine quickly and probably, even who knows in israel. because he is so engined, a -- engaged, a lot, deterrents is not just a weapon system it is an attitude, attitude where you back up your words with actions, and where your words mean something, to our adversary and allies, and donald trump has that. pete hegseth has that. i think that pete hegseth with dust on boots which i agree larry love that illustration. but, people should know about pete hegseth, while he is a dust on boots sort of guy, there is no compromise in intellectual capacity he is a brilliant man and eloquent on issues that

matter. larry: he? he turned out well. >> he -- >> [ laughter ] he cover its beautifully. derrick van orden are we close to a deal? do you think a cease fear deal and hostage deal with hamas? i'm reading about it president trump has made mention of it, do you think we're close. can we trust hamas? >> no, we can't trust hamas at all. ever. justs we cannot trust the mullahs and iran to have a nuclear weapon. i hope we're getting closer to hostage deal. i think hamas understands that donald trump means what he says, and i agree for our -- grieve for our israeli brothers and sisters. so, here is what hamas better understand. you touch an american, you harm an american or one of our allies you will never have another peaceful night's sleep again,. we will w reach out, find

uand destroy you. let them of hot ans go now. and we may think about allowing you to live that is a direct message to hamas. larry: you know, what you just said the way you said it is something that donald trump would say, i think that pete hegseth would say. but it is something that joe biden would never say. just like you put it, sir. and there in is a big part of the foreign policy worlds of fire, business. that we had to suffer through. with america's decline in international prestige, the way you said it. time is running out thank you both, senator kramer and house member van orden, thank you for your service. >> coming up. we'll switch gears. we'll come back to the pete hegseth hearings, but we'll talk about this trump bump, another big increase in

small business confidence. interesting. november and december. right after the election. we have david malpass and ej antoni, they will join us next. you can catch kudlow monday-friday 4 p.m. here on fabulous fox business if, you can't get us at 4, just text your favorite 9-year-old, and she will show you how to dvr the show. and you will never miss a single pete hegseth premier show time. i'm kudlow. we'll be right back. can i have another pancake? from full house... ♪ ...to empty nest... ♪ ...to free birds. ♪ vanguard. we got this. fifty years of helping you invest for every chapter. progressive makes it easy to see if you can save money with a commercial auto quote online

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>> absolutely we're seeing world we delve into reports small businesses are anticipating a more favorable environment with taxes and regulation, that is important, so much of regulatory app stratus of dc, disproportionately harms small business that is driver of the economy, the driver of the employment growth, all of the improvements that we saw in the areas under the first trump administration we'll see again, in second. in fact, the index small could optimism index had biggest jump since the last time president trump was elected in november. november of 2024 was equal to november of 2016. my only caution, despite all of this very rosie data, the fact that optimism about future conditions, does not

pay current bills, we're seeing at same time, that so many of these indexes show increase optimism for future we're showing indexes of current conditions continues to deferiate, that -- deteriorate that speaks to mess ha that is buying handed to trump administration. larry: it would be a good thing if we had one big beautiful bill and got tax cuts and deregulation in there. got border and energy. i think markets are some extent, they are counting on it. it looks like that direction that republicans will go one big beautiful bill. but, you know if you chop off taxes for example, from the bill, you might see some sagging a trump bust instead of a trump bump. >> you are right, you need them all, you need taxes, regulation, and can i --

energy. and can i add to what ej said, bank lending is important, one thing that fueling this small business optimism is that bank regulators, the obama biden, hillary clinton regulationors are gone. regulators are gone, they are being replaced. 97 confidence goes up, it has to be sustained, you right there has to be follow through, one big risk biden sleeves cupboard bare, we got numbers on 4th quarter spending he spent 1.8 trillion dollars, that is up 40% year-over-year. think of -- what a d disaster that is took each part of government and spend as much as they can, that will generate the need for the house and senate to get

involved, they have the power of the purse, i think there has to be back filling for what biden did. larry: you know, we need good strong spending caps, i keep saying this spending caps, that is what you need and enforce them. two trillion deficit, as far as eye can see, that is the biden legacy. then i noticeed, you had a thing more than half of the jobs, this past year, have come from government. whether federal or state or local. we're not producing private jobs. not getting small businesses jobs, maybe until recently. all government jobs, and that is part of government spending, that is part of the two trillion devestate as far as we can see. republicans have the upper hand, but their work is cut out for them. >> larry, absolutely, that is 100% correct, we forget with a lot of jobs numbers, that so much of -- so many

of jobs that look like they are private sector are paid for by tax payers, when government gives a grant to a school or a hospital, and they hire a nurse or a teacher, you are still think are -- financing that job with taxpayer dollars you have to add many private sector jobs for every job this you finance with taxpayer dollars, you reqonly c take a small portion of each persons income and use that money to fund job paid for by tax payers dollars weaker it with con consumer spinning numbers. gdp, a disproportionate amount is government transfers, once again that something that should be counted on government side, of the ledger, you are right, there is a key reason why we have two trillion deficits, as far as we can see, we just go the

information from the treasury today, this is the worse start to fiscal year ever in history of our nation, that is mess that march madness t -- this is the mess that left to president trump. we spent 140 trillion last month on the interest on debt. that is where we are. >> david malpass, i just got a minute to go. ramping up -- mr. trump as you know will be moving on the tariff front. some people in his new administration would like to go slowly. maybe 10% ridge% -- ring around collar tariff, others would like him to go quickly, do you have a quick thought or recommendation? tariffs slow or hit them hard at the beginning? >> larry, businesses look

ahead, you -- it as long as you have on a plan to reindustrialize that will work. that is why small businesses are up. one thing to note, they are the producers within the economy. so they can bring inflation down by themselves, if they are given a chance. that is why the federal reserve will have to come in and give space for the growth that is coming. larry: let the fed do nothing, do nothing, let them watch the trump program unfolded, i don't want them to do anything. >> nothing. >> >> home. >> -- >> to florida there layer. >> i don't do a da darn thing. >> i'm serious. time tired of them spending dials. >> better m model. >> get a better fed we're stuck with them, i know, some lovely condos town south, i have to get out you

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>> american workers will be left without jobs. we would have reconciliation bill vote the on house floor before easter, and done by memorial day. larry: joining us now house majority leader mr. sc

steve scalise, to one big beautiful bill. just, your quick reaction for a moment on pete hegseth today. in house in senate armed services committee. >> great being back with you. i thought pete did a really good job, you could see. there are some people trying to take their cheap shots people are fed up with that approach. he showed why president trump picked him, he talked about we have a few general that won worl world war ii and we have over 40 generals, today we're top heavy. and i know some people would be upset about, that most people across country are hungry for those reforms that pete will usher in, i thought he handled himself well. >> one 100%, great moment.

mr. scalise. one big beautiful bill. clip has speaker speaking, you are standing next to him. good time table, end of february for a basketball -- budget resolution. all done by memorial day. why not? that semithat is my point, why not. >> we talked about it during campaign we're not waiting until november 5, i hope we win we started working months ago. i met with president trump months ago, i have been meeting with committee chairs we laid out what we would do one big beautiful bill, what is in bill is what matters, getting real t tax reform, no tax increasing, getting energy policy right. opening more american energy to lower costs, lower energy costs and food costs, get border security will be a part of, that get to crazy rules and regulations, how do you do it.

>> budget reco reconciliation, we started early with meetings of membership, a lot of new members have n never been through a budget recon is reconciliation, we did an education process, and had great participation, you have to put program a budget, chairman jodey arrington and i started a meeting we are sitting town with -- we had two committees involved last time in 2017, produced a great bill. it was just ways and means and match resources this time we have 8 to 10 committees involved this is a lot of different members and committees that will be working, so we have to do the bask budget first, by february we'll have that, that means march, draw it up on calendar, you will see 8 to 10 committees in congress

working feverishly to find waste, fraud and abuse to identify real savings, not but hundreds of billions dollars from committees they will be able to put real reforms in place then we could gdo good energy policy. that is what part of reconciliation is to get budget savings to put in place tax cu cuts. president trump wanted to go further, during campaign you heard him say, no tack on tips -- no tax on tips we're building that in our model, great economic benefit to the hard working families who are struggling. under the weight this failed biden economy, we have bold agenda people don't want to wait. larry: well, you had hr1 energy. you have that, you passed that on this show, you unveiled it.

you -- >> we named it hrwho k r1 on your show. larry: and hr2 the border closing, jason smith doing tax stuff. i never understood why it was so hard, if you get something by easter more memorial day, i think that is terrific. ththen the blue collar boom that we've been talking about for working class coalition that elected mr. trump will be there, it can all be done that quickly. >> it will happen, quickly. we saw with tax cuts in and jobs act, because congress and president were not on same page in 2017 it took a year to get that bill signed to law, we lost time. by way economy staggered and just shrugs along until we

go the the bill passed then we saw en credible economic growth, this time we're way ahead of that, we are on same page, we have been working on this for months. commcom -- committees there are limit on budget reconciliation. but things that do, we want to put them in the bill, same thing with border policy, same thing by the way with so many other of the committees that not involved last time that will be, work requirement, some things that have been needing to happen to get real efficiency out of government, and saving to hundreds of billions, people are fed up throwing their money down trash caand can, and watching the government paying people not to work, we will fix it

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larry: more react to pete hegseth triumph today, joining us now house members byron donalds of florida, claudia tenney of new york welcome back. just to short, i have some are california thing to do. i thought pete was a hit, great, i thought democrats just don't understand they are not in control of government any more. david: >> i thought highest great, i didn't see all of it i was in a meeting it looked good. he was very poised. he answered questions fairly, they were trying to ahim personally, he will be a great secretary of defense, looking forward to

having hem confirmed and looking forward to january 20 like never before. larry: claudia, you said you were in ways and means committee, did you can cut my taxes today? >> we're trying. to get tax cuts and jobs act renewed. we're fighting democrats on that too. larry: byron good to see you happy new year you to both. >> happy new year. >> you know just on this point, i thought hegseth was brilliant, his knowledge of job of soldiers, and of combat warfare was incredible. i thought democrats you know, this -- they don't understand that they are not controlling the government. they don't have white house or the house or senate. they don't have the policy, it is like, they were at war with hegseth. and you know not china. or russia for example. >> i agree. first, pete hegseth was phenomenal today, i watched some of this morning.

had real command of the issues. democrat tries to bring up stuff super in the weeds, that stuff that gets handled by assistant secretary over that portion, not by secretary of defense. or any cabinet secretary to get that grand l you lar, they tried to trip him up, they could not, he will bring envision, and resolve and increase recruitment for our armed forces. he will do great. to democrats, they are in a shambles they don't know which way they want their party to go, will they be fully supportive of israel or a two-step with hamas and hezbollah or stand for women and women in sports on house floor, a bunch of democrats told not to stand for women, they have decisions to make. >> great stuff. come back to you claudia.

no blank check for governor newsom. what happening in california los angeles area is a nightmare, it is apocalyptic it is horrible, estimates are upward 200 billion it may be worse. the federal government is always tried to be humane, it would be humane if federal assistant was joined by new policies in california and i mean legislative policy at state level. to get water to run, fill up reservoirs and have right forest management. you know the story. as well as we all do, everything that has gone wrong, and instead of giving money away. should we insist on some changes in the policies of california? start with you claudia. >> absolutely.

look at my state, we should do the same with state of new york, with absurd catastrophic policies that's put in place, cal it special, they cause this problem, we have to same problem in new york we're cleaning out -- we're not taking care of our forests the way they should be managed. these people were they tried to cap insurance, under prop 103, that chased insurers out of the state, many don't have fire insurance, we have to a competitive marketplace, a merit base system and free markets that not happening in states like california and new york we have marxist regimes and people interested in lawfare. gavin newsom putting money to combat donald trump, american people put donald trump in office, that i want

to see him, he won the popular vote, we have to put those in place, a great leverage point, we talked about it with president trump, with our meetingy was -- he was all for it. larry: you want to be human, federal government is there to help. but, to keep the same mistakes over and over again and throw this money at climate change, instead of reservoirs and fire hydrants. it is a form of insanity. and federal government should not be in the k insanity business any more. >> we can't be in that it is massivelyii expensive to people of california we'll come and provide help. but not to what -- not standing here and watch the legislature and governor continue down the same road of terrible policies, that do not help mitigate the

disasters when they come. and florida we see hurricanes every year. but under the leadership of ron desantis we have mitigated damage by prepositioning assets, and taking care of you've florida plains and manage our forests, we do control burns right now. in january, in preparation for the summertime in florida, so damage is limited, it we're doing it in florida, there is no reason that california is not doing it, they will not waste taxpayer money. >> terrific stuff, thank you, great funding byron donalds and claudia tenney, appreciate you, i'll be right back with my last word. ...to income in retirement. you got this. vanguard fixed income funds can help advisors grow their clients' savings. vanguard. fifty years of high quality investments. ♪ i have type 2 diabetes, but i manage it well. ♪ ♪ it's a little pill with a big story to tell. ♪

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