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maria: good monday morning, thank you for joining us this morning. i am maria bartiromo. monday january 27th, 701 on the east coast. that's kicked off the hour with a hot topic. fox learning that president chappell signed an executive order to reinstate service members discharged for refusing to take the covid vaccine giving them full back pay and benefits, this coming on the heels of the cia publicly admitting that covid originated from the lab in wuhan, china, the new assessment coming two days after john ratcliffe was sworn in, ratcliffe joined me yesterday on "sunday morning futures". >> i had the opportunity on my first day to make public an assessment that took place in the biden administration pretty can't be accused of being political and it does assess the cia has assessed that the most likely cause of the pandemic that is present much devastation around the world because of the

lab related incident in wuhan we will investigate that moving forward but i think it was important for the american people to see an institution like the cia get off the sidelines and be truthful about what our intelligence shows at the same time of protecting us from adversaries like china if they caused or contributed to this. maria: our viewers are well aware of this, we've been reporting on the valve leak theory for years on this program beginning with arkansas senator tom cotton who joined me in february of 2020 and made the assessment, former house coronavirus chairman with me several times here he is back in august of 2023. watch this. >> china was lying from the beginning and lying today this virus did not originate in the animal market the virus spread and before it came out of the food market we also know a few miles away from the food market

is china's only biosafety level for super laboratory that researches human infectious diseases. we don't have evidence that this disease originated but because of china's duplicity and dishonesty from the beginning we need to ask the question to see what the evidence says in china is not giving any evidence on the question at all. >> you've seen what we revealed through the subcommittee on the pandemic's internal documents from the people are saying this came from nature nothing to see in china necessarily but internally they are saying that likely could've came from the lab even dr. fauci sat there doing this research in wuhan. maria: it is significant that the cia is finally admitting this because it was the cia that kept saying we have mixed evidence. what gets me is when tom cotton

came on sunday marty futures and "mornings with maria" february 2020 in march of 2020 he kept saying the same thing he got slammed by the maniacs and social media. he told the truth and based on his assessment and knowledge of the chinese communist party in the backdrop offered the most pliable ideas into get slammed for. >> it was considered racist that there might've been a lab accident in wuhan but not considered racist to think of people eat bats it's a little strange. from the beginning there were pictures of the hospital parking lots beginning in october filling up in wuhan there were so many clues that china had a dna sequencing of the disease way before they should have or could have if in fact it was a big shock from the wet market in wuhan.

this is another example president trump being right, he was a racist for saying they came out of the wuhan lab, he was totally right, the fbi was on this a while ago, where has the cia been that's my question. >> i have to give you another shadow you also was a frequent guest on this program in 2020 and 2021 that was senator rand paul and remember when he was coming onto the program and saying not only the lab where the virus came from which killed 1 million americans but he was also saying anthony fauci you testified before me and my committee and he was lying about the lab leak. all the people up in arms because dr. fauci lost his security detail, sorry, too bad million americans are dead. maria: the security detail story is interesting because john

brennan was of course pushing the lie about russia collusion and now he wonders why he lost his security detail. senate majority leader john thune is backing trump's bold genda the majority leader of the united states senate joined me yesterday on "sunday morning futures" and appeared firmly behind 47. watch. >> is all about keeping the country strong economically in the things of president is doing and the things he's talking about is a very compelling argument on panama and gree greenland. optimism in america that we haven't seen in a long time this is been a sluggish country, country that's bogged down under government regulation and red tape and taxation. one of the reason you see sally's wanting to invest in america because they see america as an attractive place to invest knowing full well that they will have a different environment economic to deal with when it

comes to taxes and regulation and energy in a whole range of other issues. we want america to be the magnet and with these policies it will be. maria: politico is reporting on the stark contrast between the biden intra- white house most notably joe biden and donald trump noting how much trump has got done in his first week as fast as the movers change out the white house furniture the country went from an invisible president unable to command the spotlight to an omnipresent and want the public's attention at all times. trump and for days was able to secure 1.1 chouchou namegabe dollars in new investment into america, you have 600 billion from the saudi's and 500 billion from the a.i. infrastructure he was able to sign 30 plus executive orders, 100 plus executive action and visit los angeles, north carolina and he still working.

>> i'm glad the diet coke button is back because he is not stopping in the oval office, the contrast is unbelievable and it's sad because were wondering who the heck was running our country for the last two years and we were criticized for bringing up and now look at the difference but i'll tell you what, this is someone is energized, focused and you were talking about greenland in the panama canal and it's about national security he wants to make america safe and the promises kept promises deliver promises kept. maria: my favorite one is the gulf of america i love the idea it's a bold idea but underlines exactly what he's all about. >> at the end of the day he so creative who would've came up with that and never occurred to me i don't know about you.

we are just getting started will submit a break in the selloff in stocks this morning kicks off the week, the nasdaq down about 900 points ahead of a big week of big check earnings chipmakers are facing the heat after new chinese a.i. model has threatened to disrupt american technology in a much cheaper cost, the word on wall street is here with her thoughts on that, you are watching "mornings with maria" live on fox business. stay with us. l. take a swing at your kitchen reno... meant that literally. or design your actual dream wedding. all your ambitions. all in one app. sofi personal loans. low fixed rates. borrow up to 100 k. no fees required. go to sofi.com to view your rate. sofi. get your money right.

maria: welcome back in time for the word on wall street top investors watching your monday under money manager director what that bison senior portfolio manager scott zelniker and chris mcmahon. good to see you, thank you for joining the conversation particularly on this day where we have a sizable selloff underway in stocks take a look

at what's going on with features now ingested on 415 the big story is a nasdaq down 860 almost 4% was down 1000 points will be started the show the nasdaq in a tailspin as a.i. stocks are selling off over concerns of competition from china in this a.i. startup out of china called deep seek, the wall street journal reported the programmers nearly match american rivals despite less advanced chips but the start of popularity suggest that washington export curbs are having difficulty blocking the advancements out of china. big check earnings out this week medical microsoft and tesla reported on wednesday "after the bell" followed by apple on thursday, your reaction to the selloff. >> the route is on this morning that is for sure let's remember the bigger backdrop in the 1600 a cultural revolution the effects were felt for 200 years then in 1800s with the industrial revolution also felt for a couple hundred years.

during the middle of the technology revolution that started in 1980 give or take we are 45 years in for the rest of my investment lifetime we will have this big investment in technology and we will feel the effects for the next 40, 50 plus years indicate when you look at the moment time in china comes out competition now will only drive more spending. to that they could do it cheaper gotta find a better way when you look at what's going on we don't just wake up today and say we given the whole a.i. theme is behind this is not the case. i think investors need to draw in the past and draw parallels to what they saw in 2000 with the tech bubble. we know that did not end well but when you look at it investors made a few mistakes they went from broadly diversified to owning a handful of tech stocks to owning one or two does that sound familiar climate was doing that now.

what we've been encouraging clients to do his own etf's and beta and with the market here at all-time highs and you were talking earnings coming up we don't want to get caught where one stock drops 15 or 10% we would rather have beta exposure to the market when the market comes way down that's what we want to look at individual stocks what happens market come down in the strong balance sheet with the weaker ones and that's free could pick up real value we when the promise with a.i. with more than one stock i understand what do you say but the entire industry has been leading the market rally for the last year end a half and the whole idea is openai is cutting-edge in their investing so much money we spoke with sarah fryer the ceo of openai and davos the other day, here's what she said.

>> 300 million people around the globe using chat gpt and is been growing an incredible clip we've been growing tens of millions every month in the business context across every vertical is revolutionizing healthcare, education, financials. >> the issue the spending much more money to do it. look at these numbers, mark zuckerberg is going to be investing $65 billion in a.i. infrastructure this year, we heard from brad smith that microsoft who told me the other day and davos that there spending $80 billion to play out and build out the infrastructure in a.i. amazon 75 billion. if you talking about the chinese a.i. company spending millions versus billions we have a problem here.

>> they said they did in two months and spent $6 million. the one thing we gotta get to the bottom of are they lying they said that using inferior chips and less money and the reality of her 50000 the best nvidia chips in one form or another overtime. realize it didn't take too much or cost him $6 million in they have the best chips. maria: that is the point, people are questioning whether or not they spent $6 million on deep-sea, here is brad smith president of microsoft with me on thursday. watch. >> were spending 50 of 80 billion in the united states to build new models for and with openai to bring a.i. to the american economy, we need to bring american a.i. around the world this is one of the most important exports of american services. there is to wait close a trade deficit one is by less, the others sell more we are the

leaders of the sell more american goods and services around the world. >> deep-sea claims and spent $5.6 million training the latest model, the tech companies are paying engineers $6 million according to the wall street journal this is a big disconnect millions versus billions and that's why we have a telephone stocks. >> they did on purpose or not you have access to the chips there going to say they don't matter i think they do matter they spent $6 trillion of the mag seven in the talking about worldwide in spending another 10% that is 600 billion additional dollars. money matters and certainly investment matters but also eric schmidt said last year were forehead engineers ahead and the clear leader in the world and a.i. in were saying they caught it, this is a big deal. maria: i don't know if we can believe it anyway we don't

necessarily believe the economic data coming out of communist china. >> this wasn't to geyser the garage it was a huge deal. maria: are you staying bullish or do you want to use the selloff to get more exposure to equity. >> i think you do we've been waiting for pullbacks that comment two, three, four, 5% clients pull up and say the market is terrible and reminder were coming off of all-time highs as a friday we were at all-time highs and you want to invest in the infrastructure of a.i. when you go back to tech who would've believed online shopping movies would've been big beneficiaries we don't know where the big advantages will come but we need to upgrade power goods to get more power we need ships and data centers, regardless of this announcement there is investment to be made. maria: there's could be growth stories all around it not slip

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maria: welcome back houserepuble days retreat at president trump golf club in florida trump is expected to speak with them tonight into deviance tomorrow during lunch time. committee chair holding several reconciliation meetings on how to pass the top agenda items in one bill john thune join me yesterday on "sunday morning futures". >> we don't get this opportunity very often and sometimes it doesn't last long way to unify controlled the government and an

the military as we talked about doing and enter all those things get done anyway that keeps america safe and make sure america is ready to deal with whatever crisis around the world strengthens our economy and energy dominant. we are in the process of figuring that out and trying to determine again the two numbers to 18 in the house and 51 in the senate in the end i will take to get this done spiritually now michigan congresswoman lisa mcclain the house republican conference chair, great to see you, thank you so much for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> you have numbers who are proud members representing their districts who have their own principles you have to corral your members into agreeing to all of the stuff where are you on that.

>> i think were getting close to being there, there is not one person that's going to get absolutely everything that they want in this bill and i think we have to get this bill right. if we get this right we can change the trajectory for the next 15 to 20 years it's important that we slow down and get it right because it does matter. >> of course it matters what are your priorities in terms of ensuring you can put as much as possible in their, your yourself, you some members to say my priority is spending cuts i've got to make sure that the debt ceiling is in place and we don't eliminate it altogether. you have other members say my priority is ensuring that we have money for defense we have to raise that number the top

line number to ensure u.s. ships are going to be competitive with china ships and then your mother members who are saying i'm not going to sign any tax legislation unless i get more release from the state and local taxes, the salt issue. here is mike lawler he was with us a few weeks ago, watch this. >> you been talking with colleagues how you will do this, one big beautiful bill as president trump likes to say or two separate bills. if you have one bill and taxes is not part of the will you still vote for the other things like border, military funding and energy permitting. >> only redline that i have, if there is a tax bill that does not list the cap on salt i would not support that. if the tax bill ends up in a second bill we will deal with that, i want to secure the border and i want to increase domestic production of energy and provide real tax relief.

i fundamentally believe that is best accomplished in one bill because the reality are merging in the house is too small to screw around. maria: just to be clear if you have one bill and tax extension is in their but the salt deduction is not, you will not vote for? >> i said from the very beginning if salt is not listed i will not support a tax bill that does not do that. maria: congresswoman have you spoken to mike lollar? >> mike is been very clear on his agenda and i appreciate that and that's what were doing here over the next couple of days we will get down to the nitty-gritty we will put the pedal to the paper and come out of the conference with the blueprint of what the reconciliation bill will look like that's what we had the listening sessions over the past couple of weeks to hear from

people like mike lollar and others in our conference on what is important for them on their district and the people they represent, now comes the tough part, that is crafting the bill, getting the pay for and making sure that we rain and reckless spending. i'm an optimist by nature and i think we can actually do that. maria: you've identified potential offsets for the reconciliation, what are the easy offsets? >> i don't know if there's any easy offsets but take believe in that, that is the easy one. then we will take a look at organizations like fema for example. we will take a look at each conference chair met with their committees and identified specific pay force or cuts for lack of better word that they

think are relatively palatable that we can do without a lot of angst or disruption for the entire conference, that's what were going to actually be going and talking about today. i don't want to get ahead of our conference on that but talk to be in a couple days and you will find some specifics as we leave this conference. >> especially the committees that were responsible debt is talking about 35 trillion in debt in four years debt held by the public will exceed the world war two at introduction as a share of the economy. these numbers are incredible, net interest cost 881 billion fiscal year 2024. interest on the debt is the single largest item in the budget behind social security, more spending on defense, more than on defense, medicare and children as you know congresswoman.

>> clearly america has a spending problem. that is why it's so critical that we get this reconciliation bill right. if we do like i said earlier we can make real change for the long-term i think it's good to take unconventional thinking and wisdom to get us out of this problem real quick what will the be for you to walk out of the three day meeting this retreat what you feel like you will come out of this and feel like i was unsuccessful. giving even control over california's water after touring the wildfire description under destruction with the first lady how would you walk on say that was a real success. >> if we walk out we get out 80% of what we want we all wish we would've gotten a little bit

more were happy because you 80% of what we wanted we want to secure the border we want to get america back on track and that's what were going to deliver at the end of this conference. not perfect not one person is going to get everything but i think we're going to make congress. maria: thank you for working with the american people we appreciate it, lisa mcclain this morning at the jarrell and florida. we'll be right back. (vo) weight loss. for so long, i felt stuck. but zepbound means change. zepbound is for adults with obesity, to help lose weight and keep it off. activating 2 naturally occurring hormone

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for the long they lodge more than 1200 detainers those arrested included tren de aragua gang member sunday the back, tom home and joining federal agents in chicago for some of the immigration raids. at the same time i was talking with texas governor greg abbott on "sunday morning futures", here's what he said. >> hundreds close to a thousand are being sent back across the border on a daily basis under the trump administration, some are going to mexico, others you will see flights that are going to guatemala and other central american countries. the trump administration is going to be sending them back to their home countries and demanding more from compliance by these countries that they take back across the border illegally it is right now there is two categories of people the trump administration ascending back public safety threats were

criminals those people across the border anybody apprehended coming across the border is good to be sent back immediately. maria: will they try to come back, texas sheriff thaddeus cleveland a retired border agent himself, it's good to see you, thank you so much for being here what about that what you seen on the ground give us your reaction to the governor and whether they're going to try to get back in a motorcade and come back. >> and running great to be on with you i was with the governor yesterday and everything he said is in line with what i've seen and what i experienced here and along the border and we had an uptick just before the inauguration in some of our traffic is gone away. we will see how it holds up back

to our normal ads and flows but also how that will got people coming back. in about will see the president trump isn't giving the border lipservice he is backing up everything on the campaign trail and cavity formation. it's night and day how embedded are the cartels and gains embedded in america we've been talking about the tren de aragua gang for a couple of years and they set up businesses in america, drug trafficking businesses, human trafficking businesses. i was so happy to see that you were able to set back some of the gang members who have been harassing americans but what about the question, how embedded are they already in america with businesses here and stash houses.

there spread out across the spiderweb that now, methamphetamine, the killing millions of americans and hundreds and thousands of americans a year there killing americans and before we experiences which we discussed before and it's going to take decades to clean up from this. i'm having a different opinion. president trump as removed all stops, he has gone after this hard with tom home a cover board which was back on the line to see the decrease in traffic working with state and locals you saw the lodge detainers that could be key as well those are locked up in custody of them and remove them from the country. >> president trump is a boss dealing on the executive level look at the columbia, first he

said is awkward about any of the flights, the deportation flights of illegal colombian nationals to land he refused to flights on sunday and that trigger president trump and he comes back with the track 25% tariff on all goods coming into the u.s. from columbia one week later if the country refuses more flights than he proposes a travel ban and revoke the visas columbia has agreed to all of trump's terms including taking back the illegal migrants deported out of the country in the president said don't worry also my presidential jet to pick up the migrants, the foreign minister in abbasid are expected to be in washington today for a high level meeting, they got the message request.

>> there is still cocaine pouring in from columbia will buy our common enter coffee from nicaragua, not just cocaine but we will see president trump get tough with mexico we see mexico talk back to president trump live a long history with united states of america they will eventually comply with seen them comply before we thought about the fentanyl the young adults look at my kids and the pencil commune you, my point is americans we are willing to pay a little more for goods. if there is an increase in tariffs rather than having our loved ones die from fentanyl poisoning. maria: china is complicit in this as well, is it not. in terms of producing the underlying materials and fentanyl coming out of china.

>> they smuggle into mexico or the mexican ports in their maiden lives in mexico is so volatile and dangerous in your regular people mixing in these drugs making them look like fake pills smuggling across the border in killing americans. hundreds of thousands americans a year. maria: for the last four years 100,000 year, what did you think of what president trump said in vegas this weekend is proposing a new plan for the 90000 irs agents who were hired under the by data administration, watch this. >> k-1 i halted the hiring of irs agents, they tried to hire 88000 new workers to go after you and were in the process of developing a plan maybe we will move them to the border.

but where they are allowed to carry guns there so strong on guns but these people are allowed to carry guns we will probably move them to the border. maria: that is true it was invited to administration that hired the irs agents to carry a weapon. >> i loved it my reaction is like yours now. in agreeing border patrol and expect them to go out and do the what portable juul agents do pretty takes learning and how to follow footprints through the desert, deal with people, save lives but you can put a portable juul agent and expect them to do anything anybody else can and we had a lot of support and i mean that with our board which will agents. bring the 80000 bodies down give

them that are part of the homeland security border patrol agents out of them, i.c.e. agents, what it does it really shows president trump support for the united states border patrol and we are appreciated of that. maria: i think he was saying i have facetiously, what you are arrested agents no about the border patrol agent of course, if it means were bodies on the ground maybe the border patrol will be happy, look with you administration is gone already apparently locating 80000 of the 300,000 migrant children that were lost by the by data administration fox news harris faulkner reported this the number of children lost could be 300,000 in the trump administration so far has been able to locate 80000 of those, what can you tell us about this. >> i'm going to tell you whether it was starting border security back of the border and supporting portable juul agent he has done that apprehensions

have plummeted. ice deportation, ice arresting criminals we seen those numbers increase drastically they are having opportunity to go and do the job again, now the children, three-quarter promises he made, tom homan has continuously talked about this is just scratching the surface they will go out and find more, some stories will be good some will be sad unfortunately but americans need to know that again president trump is going to go after and find them it's a shame that this happened to begin with a crying shame. maria: thank you so much for your leadership in your work we appreciate you joining me this morning. thank you, sir. >> blushing, thank you. sheriff thaddeus cleveland. stay with us we'll be right back. ♪

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maria: welcome after watching the israeli situation were hostages to be released this week cheryl casone with all the details. maria: things have been changing fast, hamas agreed to release three more is really hostages this thursday and saturday that does include israeli citizen another additional hostage in return israel is now allowing tens of thousands of palestinians to return to northern gaza today, there were

tense negotiations about this over the weekend, israel is accusing hamas of violating the cease-fire agreement they say one female hostage slated for relief was supposed to come home this past saturday that led to the attention the white house cease-fire between israel and lebanon has been extended until february 18 at this point, newly installed marco rubio hitting the brakes on foreign aid causing all funded by into the state department this follows president trump's executive order to reevaluate how the u.s. allocates foreign aid, rubio said every dollar must answer the questions does it make america safer, does it make america stronger and does it make americans more prosperous he calls a realignment of taxpayer dollars to foreign countries a moral imperative. president trump is keeping his promise to ndi programs on the federal level is new executive

order puts 395 government workers unpaid leave. doge saving 400 million have been canceled, the agency had to have direct reports to reduce programs within the department and the list of personal positions changed after novembe, maybe the biden administration was securing the interconnection to dea that the fear of the trump administration and saying with president trump the white house at this point is talking with numerous significant players about a tiktok deal a decision might come within 30 days, refuting a report that the deal was discussed with oracle ceo larry ellison, this comes as the company perplexity a.i. has proposed a merger with bright dance that would give the u.s. government a 50% stake in a new entity while ensuring china does not control the algorithm, frank mccourt says he is still pursuing tiktok government involvement could facilitate the

deal but he says this has to remain a private sector deal, maria spoke with treasury secretary under steven mnuchin under tiktok on "sunday morning futures". >> the technology needs to be disconnected from china and needs to be connected to disconnected from by dance there's no way china would allow us to have something like that in china. maria: they want to see an american businessman like elon musk or frank mccourt acquire the thing. >> i said i'd be very interested in participating i think the existing investors would most likely want to say and in the new investor can commit as well, the technology can be rebuilt. >> of course the question remains right now will xi jinping allow by dance to selloff tiktok in any way shape or form.

>> it is valuable, the evaluation is pretty significant, your thoughts. >> wall street is good be very receptive to china not having algorithm i don't think we can tolerate it, politically and geopolitically china lies about everything we were worried about tiktok. if we do this deal together 50% at the grip of 30% upside on that stock. maria: i'm not backing away from the questions on china surveillance, i thought president trump would make a good point when he said were talking about tiktok, what about phones and all the other products and cars whatever they're talking about, they made in china there could be. >> that extends to drugs and machinery in airports, i think china has a good fix on everything going on in our country. i think the propaganda aspect of

tiktok makes that a unique situation if they are really trying to subvert our kids a lot of our programming does not should not be allowed. maria: let's get to the weather, southern california was either for significant rainfall in months after the devastating wildfires, the much-needed rain party los angeles under a flood watch, potential mudslides in the burn scar areas. meteorologist britta merwin with an update. >> they labeled the next three hours as critical for southern california all four schools in malibu are close because of the threat of mudslides and landslides but as you said we need the rain it's a price tag we have to unfortunately deal with, were picking up over an inch to 2 inches of rain, today is the last day before the area of low pressure gets a move on it entrance into the big story of the week on "fox weather" as

a bureaucrat for texas on wednesday and thursday, maybe snow for the northeast by the end of the week we have time to watch it. maria: thank you we will take a short break and come right back. stay with us.