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downside but the losses are being tempered a little have a look at the chipmakers there all down across-the-board nvidia it had been down more intel qualcomm also on the downside bitcoin a real impact $101,800 per coin but the ten year treasury that yield is down 4.56% i called this a rush to safety you put money into safe treasures the price goes up and the yoke comes down that is what is happening the latest read on new home sales, the number. >> stronger-than-expected the annual rate is 698,000 for the month of december it was a 3.6% increase from november which was revised higher, here's your median price $427,000. stuart: is that up or down. >> that is up 400 into or 403,000 in the previous month. stuart: thank you very much

indeed now this everything was going just fine america dominated a.i. trillions of dollars pouring into the business are a big tech but the way, what could go wrong deep seek that through a wrench into american a.i. leadership, and deep seek is the chinese a.i. startup that match the performance of american companies at a fraction of the price. as president trump announced to have training dollars in a.i. investment chinese reported astounding progress without spending much at all using old ships on a lot of innovation, deep seek built the competitive model, they spent less than $6 million. american large language models cost tens of millions. this stands the economics of a.i. development on its head do we need to spend all this money. america tried to limit china's progress by stopping the export of nvidia state of the ark ships

the chinese worked around the blockage money is not the only problem going forward what influence it countries adopt the cheap chinese model the communist party works the screens around the world that is a much bigger threat than tiktok today's stock market selloff reflects this the chipmakers like nvidia abroad, and marvell technology will weibel down big tech which has expensive american models is also selling off they design and build the giant data centers has also dropped sharply it is down 20%. this challenge is just breaking america's a.i. dominance seems to care now it's not. china, like it or not is rewriting the technology playbook. second hour of "varney" just getting started ♪ ♪.

stuart: let's get some context jeff sica with us is this the end of america's a.i. dominance in leadership. >> this is a problem. if you listen to what eric schmitt the founder of google said he said china has caught up with the u.s. and a.i. if you look at the nasdaq since 2022 and technology stocks in general a.i. in the a.i. height has added $14 trillion to the sector the fact that bore under before today nobody heard of this company now all the sudden everybody is talking about what were going to have is the capital spending which is driven a lot of the market which is coming into question you have to look at all the magnificent seven a lot of them reporting this week yet to dive into those and see what the capital spending looks like keep in mind

we have not seen the spending quantified in the earnings revenues of these companies. stuart: microsoft reports wednesday on the call if they turn around and say all the money we were going to spend maybe we will think again that would be devastating. i'm not suggesting they say that but that's a possibility. >> you been talking about nvidia all morning that the stock since 2018 and the fact is if there is a cheaper alternative that works better like deepseek does i don't care how moralistic these tech companies will be in saying that they will support u.s. based technology they will flock to that. if that does happen we have a

whole new implication as far as national security is concerned and as far as capital spending overall. if you take out the a.i. stocks in the last couple of years and look at the market performance you will not see a tremendous epic story that we have been enjoying you would've seen a very different picture. stuart: that is interesting, steve forbes is with us it seems the very least it's a pivotal moment for american a.i., what say you. >> it absolutely is when there's no such thing as a monopoly free markets will upend it read we have to start reducing the capital gains tax again to stimulate the entrepreneurs in this country that can outdo deepseek then we have the talent to do it, put that in the tax have a flat tax that in turn for the thing not to do have the government common and say we will leave the charge on katrina

let the free market does and i hope the deregulation, lower tax rates and the like will have us ahead of the chinese soon again the talent is there to do it. stuart: i want to thank jeff sica coming in, we appreciate your perspective. steve, i have another question. trump says world leaders told him that biden would never answer their calls, watch this. >> i was told today by one of the big leaders of the world, we would call for a telephone call for the president of the united states a year ago and he would never pick up the call they would say he'll call you back in two months. two months? that's the schedule is extremely busy and i picked up immediately and they say can we speak to the president without a possible we can do over the next time in the next month, there's so used to this and i set up a can of right now is the on the phone, hello, how's he doing, they were so

starved from blood from the united states i cannot get them off the phone. >> is very entertaining and he's brutal he also points out we were living through a one-week of a revolution. >> revolution after four years of the greatest scandal in american history where they connive to hide the fact of the commander-in-chief was going downhill in terms of his brainpower and they had to have whole days where they had to pull them off the schedule because he did not have the ability to do the job at hand. that's going to be investigated and i don't know what will come from but the fact of the matter is we came close to a total disaster having a president who is absolutely out to lunch so to speak. >> we have a revolution in progress. can the president keep up the momentum. >> is a man of enormous energy, he does not sleep at night that's why we get the treats in the middle of the night or true social now because of his energy. i think is more focus now in the

key big thing now tariffs of course but also can you get the big beautiful tax bill with massive tax cuts not only renewing the 2017 tax cut but adding the new ones not just on tips and social security but personal income tax and corporate tax rate in the capital gains tax. unfortunately members of his party still have this attitude the way that you fight deficit is by raising taxes or dumb things like that and they have members of the party that want teresa corporate tax rate to pay for some of the tax cut. how foolish you can be. >> when he meets the gop house members today and he will meet them let's hope he lays the ball down on unity. i hope he does what he did to the president of columbia. you're alright, thank you. looking at some movers, lauren is with us start with at&t.

>> a winner of 5% the added more wireless subscribers in the last quarter were willing to upgrade our devices, the net income jumped 70% year-over-year speed when you pick some winners, not bad so far. >> fintech stronger earnings and growth in the new customer numbers but there down on the forecast is pretty bad that stock is down 10%. >> merck they won fda approval for priority review of an oral cancer drug that they're working on for patients of a rare tumor ended around the adrenal glands merck is up 1% and the drugmakers the staple companies are much higher today this is a text selloff. you looked for winners and you found them. >> it was not that hard. >> president trump will sign an executive order reinstating service members to reduce charge for not getting the covid vaccine and giving them back full pay, how about that.

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selloff in a.i. stocks and big tech it is happening now the dow is off 112 s&p down 103 points, 1.7% a big drop, we have winners, david bahnsen joining us on the phone, thank you for getting on the phone with us, what is your analysis of the a.i. text selloff. >> most of the time i've been on the show and talk about the evaluation sign in the concerns for some time that everyone is ahead on the ease of evaluation but today's one of the first days of a combination of the evaluation story and with the fundamental story being the real competition in china are we losing china as a customer is entirely possible were overspending because it can be done cheaper as china may be proving is premature to drop the conclusion but when you're overvalued that's what that

happens. >> do you see any buying opportunity today? how. >> yes i like the stuff for and was talking about at procter & gamble and the staples and drugs in the dividend stories do not be buying the tech names on a dip. if it's a real selloff it's not going to be down 5 - 10% is going to be gone far more and a lot of people think this entire thing is about to blow over and going back 50 - 80 times evaluation is a good thing it makes no sense on a two hour dip it may not prove a long-lasting but it's entirely possible it's early stages of a real correction, so far this is child's play. >> we always enjoy your analysis in it was timely today, thank you for jumping on the show, change the subject and ice has targeted raids in chicago do we know how many arrests so far? it. >> tom homan did not give me the

precise number but he said multiple national security threats were taken off the streets of chicago yesterday. he tells me that includes a convicted murderer, aggravated sex offenders, members of the tda gang and a few collateral arrests he prays the sweeping multi agency immigration operation fbi, apa, ice, u.s. marshals all involved also on the ground was the top d.o.j. official acting attorney general, tom homan tells fox it would help to have atf on the ground when they busted and alleged tda gang member that was selling materials to convert guns into automatic weapons. a video obtained by fox he thinks the agencies and said chicago's operation was a first of its kind in the country. >> i appreciate all the federal agencies we respond and they were confirmed.

>> the front page of the chicago tribune reads we are terrified referring to the immigration community and one local tv report says schools and churches are being targeted, tom homan and dhs tells fox that schools and churches are not being targeted dhs since a term policy that allows immigration arrest to be made in schools and churches uses common sense and meant to prevent criminals from getting the idea that they can seek refuge in the church or school. on the topic of schools on friday chicago public schools created a stir publicly stating the i.c.e. agents showed up to elementary school that story spread and even illinois governor riding on x after a week of republican sewing fear and chaos the first reports of raids in chicago are at an elementary school, turns out i.c.e. agents never visited the school it was secret service investigating an alleged dragon's president trump chicago

public schools under retracted statement in tom homan tells me he considers him a liar for spreading misinformation in a short while ago a dhs official tells me that the next target for an immigration raid is new york city. back to you. >> that's an important addition. thank you very much indeed national board of virtual counsel chris cabrera with me now, our century states actually beginning to back off, by the way as you heard from matt finn dhs announced a new target is going to be new york city. >> i think your back there was a lot of tough talk coming into the election and once president trump took over and he meant business and that tom homan is getting things done let's put it like it is tom homan has gotten more done in the last week than the last administration did in four years. i think he realized were not backing down and we're going to go forward with this and i think you'll see little by little

everybody jumping on board. stuart: it's hard to defend criminal migrants and say working to protect them saying that is a nonstarter politically in this country at this moment, do you agree with that. >> i agree and a lot of folks are saying some nonviolent and regular border crossings are getting caught up in this and if the sanctuary cities and turn the folks over the ice in the beginning in the violent criminal, everybody else would be getting caught up in this. if they had done their job and protected the community we would not be in the situation in the first place. stuart: vice president vance and margaret brennan had an exchange on migrant regulation, watch this. >> you change the regulations this week that supported the question. >> to bring them the authority to go into church in schools. >> we empower law enforcement to enforce the law everywhere to protect americans.

>> that has a chilling effect for people to not send their kids to school. >> i desperately hope it has an effect on illegal immigrants coming into our country. >> you think bishops are hiding criminals. >> i think the u.s. conference of catholic bishops has not been a good partner and common sense immigration enforcement that america people voted for and i hope again as a devout catholic that they will do better. stuart: the exchange demonstrated that cbs's 70 journalist do not want to understand the nature of migration in this country. a separate question what do you think of vance criticism of catholic bishops. >> i think you hit it right on the head. the unfortunate i'm catholic i grew up catholic but if you look at how the catholic church does things with the pope coming out saying all immigrants should be welcome in the united states yet they don't welcome them into the vatican city has some of the toughest immigration laws in the

world yet they are real quick to say everybody else to take them but they don't take any themselves. stuart: chris cabrera a big day and we appreciate being here to take part of it with us thank you very much. trump wants to reassign 90 to 90000 irs agents. they do carry guns are you going to take them to the border. >> 's the president says why should 88000 new irs tires go after americans send them to the border instead, watch. >> i halted the hiring of any new irs agents, they hired or tried to hire 88000 new workers to go after you and we are in the process of developing a plan to terminate all of them or maybe we will move them to the border. i think were going to move them to the border, they are allowed

to carry guns, they're so strong on guns but these people are allowed to carry guns we will probably move them to the border. >> you declared a national emergency at the border and that gives him the executive power to redirect funds and personnel meanwhile texas governor greg abbott sending 400 additional soldiers to the southern border they will coordinate with border patrol. he is working with trump. stuart: funny to think their appointed to the irs to go after billionaires in the end up going to the border. >> i'm not sure how the rubber meets the road but it's fascinating. coming up. columbia's president has caved he has agreed to accept migrants from the u.s. brian brenberg on that is next. stay with us were following your money in the market selloff all day on fox business. ♪

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stuart: the dow is only down 42-point it was not more than 300 s&p is down 300 that's pretty much where was but the nasdaq no recovery down 2.6% 530 points, lauren is looking at the

movers, show me kb home. >> the homebuilders are up on the 3% increase in new home sales for december kb is up by 4% and the rest are up 2%. corvo. chipmaker and apple supplier defined the tech selloff today the reason piper sandler upgraded them to the equivalent of by see the stock of wood up 24% the reason they like star board and activist having involvement to drive efficiency. >> what do they do. >> communications. communication tools for companies the stock is up into a half percent, goldman sachs upgraded them to a price target of 185 up from 77 they liked what they heard from investor day. stuart: thank you after initially refusing deportation flights columbia as agreed to all of president trump's terms, peter doocy at the white house, tell me what happened.

>> for a couple hours this week and the president of columbia dog and against president trump he was publicly explaining why columbia would not accept u.s. military planes of columbia nationals to enter the u.s. illegally the president of columbia set i deny the entry of american planes carrying columbia migrants intercountry the united states must establish a protocol for the dignified treatment of migrants before we receive them but then came trump's 25% tariffs that would rise to 50% after one week. suddenly the colombian president 180 degrees different writing the government of columbia under the president of gustavo petro has provided the presidential plane to facilitate the dignified return of patriots to arrive in the country today from deportation flights karoline leavitt the new press secretary is saying the fully drafted ieee tariffs and sanctions will be held in reserve and not signed

unless columbia fails to honor this agreement the sanctions issued by the state department enhance inspections from cbp will remain in effect until the first plane load of deportees is successfully returned, the new president wants to deport people back to their country of origin, the tariff threats are away to keep the process moving in this not going to stop. >> if you have a person who is convicted of a violent crime whether an illegal immigrant or non- illegal immigrant you have to get the person to protect the public safety that is not unique to immigration. >> president trump will go to doral and miami, he is trying to figure how to report what they can and cannot put into what they refer as the big beautiful spending bill. stuart: always good to see you back at the white house. all good stuff. thank you. president trump floated the idea of using only tariffs to fund the government. >> about no tax.

[cheering] you know if the tariffs worked out like i think a thing like that could happen if you want to know the truth. years ago 1870 to 1913 we did not have an income tax we had tariffs where foreign countries came in and stole our jobs or companies in our product they ripped us off. >> about that no taxes just tariffs, brian brenberg has a few comments. >> would you think that is a realistic proposal. >> we did it once as he said it's not like there's a natural law that says you have to tax income we can do it in different ways, what i love about it he's opening up the conversation again should we change the mix of our taxes may be a flat tax with higher tariffs and not

punish workers so much and create more capital formation. i meant for this conversation somebody who is creative on taxes for change america needs that and what are we going to get is donald trump you cannot predict that. stuart: i'm listening hard and i've been listening for the rest of the day what you're going to say. i'm going to change the subject after refusing deportation flights columbia has agreed to all of president trump's terms. >> i love this. >> what happened was this he said you cannot send the flights to us in donald trump did not differ for a second he said really, here's what's going to happen, no travel, no visa, 25% tariff, 50% next week if you keep it up in the colombian president knew he meant it and he changed within hours. i love this it is called energy in the executive, fighting for interest not backing down it is called being in the game, we have a president who is not at the beach.

he is in north carolina, california, las vegas now is back to florida into be at the white house soon he is all over and doing everything in these guys around the planet know what. stuart: yes they do and they reacted to it but if it works in canada or mexico. >> i think he has a playbook it i don't see why they will be any different. stuart: "the big money show", your show you start today at 12:00 o'clock eastern, noon a new time into go for two hours, the first day on the new job for two hours what's on the agenda. >> is going to be awesome the one thing people told us consistently they like the conversation, what are we going to do we will make it bigger, dagen mcdowell, a great conversation and a special guest each hour, hour one charles payne, our two larry kudlow and will talk about the big issues and will go deep five smart people around the table and i promise you different opinions which means a little bit of this

in a little bit of interesting conversation out of the mix. stuart: you have a very good day, market selloff. >> is there any news going on today, look at the dow. >> one week into the revolution. >> we will start with the a.i. and try to bring real intelligence as we can. stuart: 19 minutes before your show starts, who knows what might happen. >> i have to do all sorts of research. stuart: tune into "the big money show" a new time 12 eastern. the super bowl is set the kansas city chiefs will face off against the philadelphia eagles, what is this about people taking longshot bets. >> when the chiefs play the eagles they're going for the unheard-of repeat. they have the chance to win three super bowls in a row and millions of americans will put their money on the multi-leg bets the called parlays like the modern day lottery ticket, very hard to win multipart wagers

with a lot of buzz bringing in revenue and a tremendous payout let me give you an example with the player that you no let's say taylor swift's boyfriend chiefs tight end travis kelce will catch the ball five times in square one touchdown in the chiefs will win you can place the back saying all three will happen and then you increase the payout as opposed to petting on each thing individually but you need all three to happen to win so you can hit on two out of the three or 99 out of a hundred but if you miss the one you lose the customers love the long odds this is what is popular these days. stuart: you likable? >> i had help with that. stuart: what is a tight end. >> it is travis kelce's position. >> there you go, that's a good answer, the trying to tell you in your ear and is not pushed and so i cannot hear it all the way. a receiver that can block, did i get that right, keep going.

stuart: no more than that. thank you jd vance cast the tie-breaking vote to confirm pete hegseth as defense secretary. watch. >> i think pete is a disruptor people don't like the disruption but that disruption is incredibly necessary. >> p headset has a warning for federal workers and we will tell you what that is stephen a smith is a sports guy he explained trump's massive victory. >> the man was impeached twice he was convicted on 34 felony counts. in the american people still said he is closer to normal than what we see. >> that's not all he said we have the full tape and we will play it for you next. ♪

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stuart: the market is coming back down, down 20 points s&p down 87 but a big drop better than two and a quarter percent, kenny polcari on the phone, how do you play a.i. because all the american a.i. stocks are selling off how do you play that. >> i think you have to take a step back there was a new light that caused all this destruction in the name and i'm not buying into the whole d deepseek becaue i don't know who's going to use an chinese company to build the business and i don't believe everything coming out of china it is caused this hemorrhaging because it was overvalued anyway and we've been talking about it. the pullback is healthy but after a day like today as an investor yet to give it 24 hours to settle it you gotta watch it but i would be looking at some of the a.i. names on sale as a buying opportunity. nvidia is down 15% in today's some of the other names are down

big but as a long-term investor for today you have to watch it and see how it reacts but then i would look to be a buyer in some of the names not a panic seller stuart: how about today what buying opportunities are you looking at today. >> today away from a.i. i'm looking at broader market opportunity, we like healthcare going forward, names like utilities are going to continue to do well but i am staying away from the tech names because of the nervous system panic and other places like consumer staples if you're expecting this to be community involved those are sectors you get a look at to add the balance and stability to your portfolio. stuart: thank you, jumping onto the show ended important moment and day we appreciate it. we will see you later this. the senate confirmation for trump's cabinet nominees ramp up

this week chad pergram capitol hill, who's on the docket this week. >> good morning easy ones and hard ones the senate confirmed to nominees over the weekend another likely scores confirmation tonight that is treasury secretary nominee scott bessent and perhaps tomorrow transportation 6 600 secretary sean duffy stop. >> we are ahead of schedule obama got 12 of the cabinet nominees in 15 days it took truck 43 days to get his first 12 through back in 20162017 we are pushing hard received bipartisan support every nominee except defense secretary pete hegseth got votes from democrats but they don't expect them to confirm tulsi gabbard as director of national intelligence her hearing comes

later this week before the intelligence committee rate elissa slotkin of michigan is a former cia officer. >> she doesn't show the content and understanding and the depth she was not prepared for meetings not to mention deeply questionable decisions she made of cozying up to vladimir putin and with assad in syria. >> there could be bipartisan opposition the same with health and human services secretary nominee robert f kennedy junior. >> in addition to the issue of vaccines which so many people have talked about and we know the danger of this not being able, first of all putting out misinformation and disinformation and possibly profiting from it that is a problem. >> rfk junior has two hearings in tulsi gabbard has a hearing on thursday in a closed session another controversial nominee gets a hearing as well that is a presidents pick to run the fbi,

kash patel, this trio will be the hardest to confirm. >> we hear you thank you very much indeed espn host stephen a smith says trump resonates with voters more than democrats what is the reasoning. >> despite the legal drama and the impeachment he says trump seems normal to everyday americans, watch here. >> the man was impeached twice and convicted on 34 felony counts in the american people still said he is closer to normal and when you talk about the transgender for community and the issues that pertain less than 1% of the population the democratic party came across as if that was a priority on the other issues. when he shows up week one on capitol hill and he says this is what will do through executive order even though shot down to the courts and what have you he is saying i kept my promise. if you look at the left you say what promises did you keep? >> he he voted for kamala harris and he's admitting the democrat party is out of touch and that's

why trump seems as close to normal as possible to so many americans. >> is getting a lot of coverage we quote him very frequently and it makes a lot of sense. coming apart to believe the trump presidency is only one week old so much has changed in the pace of change has not slowed down there is virtually no aspect of policy that remains untouched that is my take at the top of the hour the cia says covid most likely originated from a lab leaked from wuhan in china what is doc siegel think of that the doctor is next.it ♪ ion is to play big—to help andre others. that's why i joined sofi. they help people earn more and save more, so they can realize their ambitions. sofi. get your money right. (sneeze) (hooves approaching)

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stuart: this is coming to us this is the israeli defense force said they killed one of hamas leaders in an aircraft strike in the west bank he was killed as part of a new counterterrorism operation. check the market all the way back from a three dewpoint loss 236-point loss s&p down 90 the nasdaq suffering a.i. stocks and big tech way down a 490 points on the nasdaq composite. by the way united health

salesforce, travelers, apple, home depot are all dow stocks in their up the attitude of 50 points to the dow industrial, the cia released a new report on the origins of covid favoring the wuhan lab leak theory listen to what cia director john ratcliffe had to say about that. >> i the opportunity on my first day to make public an assessment that took place in the biden administration. it cannot be accused of being political and it does assess the cia has assessed the most likely cause of the pandemic that is brought so much devastation around the world was because of a lab related incident in wuhan. we will continue to investigate that moving forward. stuart: doctor marc siegel joins us now did covid come from the wuhan lab or not? >> i think it's likely and i think the cia putting their

thumb on the scale is extremely significant because after all they are the intelligence agency that is supposed to be looking at this and a lot of this information was top-secret and john ratcliffe is very well-regarded across the aisle 74 votes. i love that is coming out with us in this stuff was done under the biden administration but they did not make it public why is it likely came from a lab very unusual looking virus they were experimenting on coronavirus in the lab they had safety violations in the lab and i found stuff the department of defense had in 2019 showing aerial photos of lab workers getting sick and going to local hospitals there's a lot of reasons to be suspicious of the lab as the number one reason in the cia weighing in is hugely important. it will help us going forward w.h.o. is working together with china to suppress information in a global pandemic result that is extremely relevant. stuart: what does dr. fauci have

to do with this if anything. >> dr. fauci was playing up the natural origin narrative. that could have still been the answer but the public deserves to know there was two competing theories and one had more evidence than the other in what he had to do with downplaying the lab origin theory and be relying on the international consortium of scientists who were doing gain-of-function research whether testing virus potential extremely dangerous and he trusted the china wall han institution and its on the chinese military that is a problem. stuart: does releasing the report restore some degree of trust? >> it should because of ratcliffe because this is cia it was significant that the fbi said this but the cia is more significant. we need transparency at the top level of government president trump is bringing it back, this is extremely important and will

restore some level of trust but not with an idea that we can control what china is doing in the shroud that they put over these things, i'm still worried about that. >> president trump promised to reinstate and reimburse service members who were charred under discharge for taking the covid vaccine is a big deal announced today, what do you think of it. >> as you know i'm for the covid vaccine but their 17 vaccines that the military take and the response is drastic and i think president trump is absolutely right to reinstate members into reimburse them. we are trying to get more people into the military, pete hegseth will inspire them and i think we don't have enough military recruits, the last thing they needed was to be thrown out because of this they needed to be worked with and talk to and not thrown out. stuart: doctor siegel, thank you for joining us you soon. the news coming thick and fast

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>> china caught up with the u.s. in ai and before today, nobody heard of the company. >> lower tax rates and the like and will have us ahead of the chinese soon again. the talents there to do it. >> this is a positive thing long term. you're flipping the model. now we'll do it more cost effectively and don't think that nvidia, microsoft, google will roll over now that there's a chinese upstart that's up staged them. it's a national security issue as much as a big tech innovation issue. >> moments like this are stuff that i live for as investor. nvidia is not going away. apple or microsoft. pick your battles and if the trumped a anyone vagues does nothing with the mill -- administration does nothing with the military but turn around the recruitment problems, that's a massive, massive victory. >> threaten someone with a 25% tariff and then they're

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