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maria: good wednesday morning, thank you so much for joining us this morning i am maria bartiromo january 29th, your top stories right now, 6:00 a.m. on the east coast. president trump's agenda and focus from all sides cabinet hearings for rfk junior howard.nick and kelly lackner and senate hearings today, with the preview as a federal judge is positing entrance executive order for office of management and budget to freeze trillions of dollars in federal grants and aid causing a ruckus for democrats on capitol hill who claim to need an emergency meeting with the deal with the trump white house the emergence of the deepseek bringing up the same national can series concerns that congress had around tiktok were following this all morning long futures are mixed take a look at what's happening for stocks and mixed opening after monday technology route the dow is down 14 but the

nasdaq is up 78 ahead of a major different tech earnings meta, microsoft, tesla coming out "after the bell" apple tomorrow that will be one to watch a market mover we have all the previous. the federal reserve announces the first great decision of the year today at 2:00 p.m. eastern federal reserve jay powell speaking shortly after, crypto is on the move as president trump issues and executive order establishing a crypto task force to tackle digital asset regulation everything you need to know. european markets a like this take a look at the eurozone and mixed story and in asia overnight the nikkei in japan the only index open everything) year celebrations but in japan it was up 1% back at home the trump white house press secretary caroline levitt holding the first product enterprise briefing from trump on the drones over new jersey saying they were not the enemy and the faa was behind them wait until you hear this, on the

conversation will die american ingenuity fund manager adam johnson american frontier strategy ceo the heck cook and culture plus group ceo all right here. "mornings with maria" is live right now. ♪. we kick it off with a hot topic of hour more of president trump's cabinet nominees headed to capitol hill for the pivotal senate confirmation hearing on deck today health and human services secretary nominee robert f kennedy junior face the wealth of criticism from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle over his stance on vaccines and on abortion. now his cousin former obama and biden diplomat caroline kennedy

has come out with a letter in this video where she calls him a predator and unqualified. also. on the hill congress secretary nominee howard got naked small business or ministry to kelly loeffler, tomorrow a big day as well kash patel will face tough questions how he will lead the fbi should be confirmed in dni nominee tulsi gabbard making her case to the senate intelligence committee a lot to talk about and i guess tomorrow's hearing will be more controversial story because there's a lot to talk about those but what are your expectation for president trump's nominees. >> i think every single nominee will sale all tell you why because president trump as pick disruptors in washington and the fact rfk junior is questionable raise my eyebrows because the detractors are people like former vice president pence who is pushing back because pharma is the one finding the ads what

are they so scared of we want to be healthy and we need it now more than ever and president trump set the gold standard of healthcare look at what he did he cited executive order to ensure that minors will not be going to gender mutilation or any gender dysphoria he is setting the gold standard and that's what rfk junior will deliver for america health again. maria: can you believe we had to tell the democrats that men cannot have babies, there are two genders, your ideas? >> what i love because of the unconventional pics is the scrutiny on both sides which i love that is diversity of thought. in this case when we see people that come from the other side of the aisle different backgrounds is what showing what will make unique this new cabinet in bringing different perspective that brings us back to common sense is the president has said. i like that were going to the questioning and some of the things we could live away with

but everything else is due process and i think you're right they will sell through because were ready for that type of change. maria: the democrats are so gripping that over president trump it is policies and how he's the boss and showing it to everybody in the only thing they can do is abstract. the obstruction continues democrat lawmakers want to delay a committee vote for the office of management and budget director pick russell vought because he so controversial and the trump administration ordered a freeze on federal grants and loans the order blocked by u.s. district judge minutes before taking effect after the lawsuit was filed white house press secretary caroline levitt asked about this during the first press briefing yesterday. watch this. >> i'm not naming everything but to give you a few examples, social security benefits, medicare benefits, food stamps, welfare benefits, assistance going directly to individuals will not be impacted by this

pause. for receiving assistance from the federal government you will continue to receive that however, is the responsibility of this president and this administration to be good stewards of taxpayer dollars. maria: caroline levitt did a great job yesterday. >> i love what she said one of the purposes of government and certainly this president is to be a good steward of our money. >> in such logic and so simple and that's the way it should be, the gravy train has run too far out of control, is come off the tracks and all the sudden the programs i should've never been funded or getting pulled back and people don't like it the democrats in particular don't like it democrats and republicans are different people republicans wake up in the morning and say how a man going to build my business and provide for my family and what greatness is out there for me to claim as my own, democrats on the other

hand wake up and say what can government do for me what money is sloshing around that i can claim is mine to fundamentally different approaches and that's what we see in washington. maria: the problem is impacting american citizens and once again the democrats don't know what to do so there obstructing. president trump needs his capita on the ground in order to move forward and put progress forth for the american people why are you obstructing things, even deb fischer said yesterday watch this. >> do you feel like your colleagues on the laughter stalling these hearings. >> most definitely you saw it on armed services committee with the democrat matters he wanted to have another round of questions and they wanted to postpone the vote they wanted to drag it out. maria: is there any way to get your colleagues on the left to understand that people are on to this we want the political games

to india we want progress for america. >> i think the american people have been clear about that and i would encourage the american people especially those that live in blue states be vocal about it. we have work to do and we need to get it done, stop with the tricks and the stalling and let's get to work for the american people. maria: we have five cabinet members with a reason for, it's five that have been confirmed and is in office more than a week, what's the problem. >> the democrats are obstructing because they never gave up the platform of folk ideology di degree new deal in the continuing to push this in trespass on the american people, let's not forget we found $50 million going to condoms for gaza, this is what the democrats are continuing to push on the american people and we've had enough this is why we continue to say democrats need a new platform they need to wake up smell the roses and realize we need progress and we need it n

now. maria: were just getting started we have a lot coming up will swell up short break take a look at futures rebounding as investors await the federal reserve rate decision of the year end what jay powell says about 25 my next guest set expects no change of the target interest rate no cotton rates she says the fed will avoid preemptive moves countering the trump agenda former federal reserve nominee judy shelton is here next. you're watching "mornings with maria" live on fox business. we'll be right back. ♪

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futures and mixed opening this morning, the dow industrials done nine points, the nasdaq up 79 in the s&p 500 higher by five points will see how they change going into the open but stocks rebounded after the market route the dow industrials at the close yesterday up 136, the nasdaq up 391 after monday's market rattled by the debut of chinese a.i. model deepseek let's take a look at yields as the federal reserve is widely expected to hold rate study the ten year yield at 4.53% that's moving factually after cutting rates in the last three meetings jay powell is expected to speak at 2:30 p.m. eastern and give us some sense of what the future looks like without cutting interest rates today joining the former federal reserve board nominee independent institute senior fellow and the author of good as gold how to unleash the power of sound money judy shelton back with us, thank you for being here the guidance from

jay powell is most important today because were not expecting rate cuts what are you expecting. >> i think you be careful to avoid saying anything that sounds like the fed would counter the incoming policy of the trump administration i'm sure he regrets the december meeting tariff driven inflation which made it sound as if the fed is thinking about what they would do if policies were inflationary. >> they should think about all scenarios in the federal reserve but many people say that trump's agenda is anti-deflationary. anti-inflation in deflationary because of the deregulation. >> i think your opening discussion really underscored the imperative of carrying on the critical transition to empowering the private sector to the trump administration

policies of deregulating and reducing taxes. a lot of the economic growth in gdp numbers or low unemployment numbers is caused by the artificial stimulus of government spending and government hiring what we want to do is turn that into real and productive economic output we want a genuine supply-side approach the sooner we get the policies enacted the better for the economy. >> up the rest of the year looks like these two weeks we were talking about a pumped up economy the president's agenda and the first two weeks of the second term has required a lot of people to stand up and pay attention he's demanding more from lower interest rates, what do you make a president trump saying i want rates lower you noted the fed paid commercial banks more than $400 billion over the last three years to

keep the cash reserve for the central bank and trump against bank of america and j.p. morgan chase of discriminating against customers both banks responded saying they never closed accounts for political reasons, give us your sense of the fed in that regard. >> i think that suggests an interesting challenge to the fed. we know conservatives had been debunked they suddenly find out their accounts are closed and the bank does not want to do business with them. i think this reflects the regulatory ambiguity and basic relationship between the fed and commercial banks in the fed does pay especially the large banks like j.p. morgan and bank of america it pays them a hefty interest rate to keep money sitting in cash that could go into the u.s. treasury which would start to reduce those longer-term rates or even better it would go into the private sector lending right now banks

are making less than half of small and medium-size businesses they are getting capital from non-bank institutions. i think it would be worth it to say instead of the banking milan and trump or the national rifle association, let's find out how much and billions have the top u.s. banks received from the fed because are concerned with the bank examiner from the fed insinuates they could suffer reputational risk if they make loans to certain conservatives and what do they mean by that. maria: i think it's a great point that you raise for sure in terms of the fed and always treated the major banks, melania and trump told me herself that she was to banks. i know it was not j.p. morgan or bank of america in that regard i just want to make sure i point that out it was another bank but she was the bank.

watch this. >> when i establish my own business the bank suddenly informed me they will not be able to do business with me anymore. also i had a very prominent e-mail distribution service provider abruptly terminate my agreement so suddenly. as well as the university i was in all agreement that they would accept my donation for foster students because of the board of directors they called back and they found out it was me and they said we cannot go on. it's very sad, who suffered children from foster communities

they did not have a scholarship that somebody will provide for them and they do not want to do business with me because political affiliation and political beliefs and that was one of them one of the canceling projects. maria: can you imagine this. >> i know it is real and also energy companies and oil companies have also found themselves going to banks and being told we do not want your business anymore and we know this is coinciding with the federal reserve interest in the climate change agenda i think it's very important to re-examine the relationship jamie dimon said we don't know exactly why they frown on certain accounts at we have but from the banking point of view they are so dependent on this relationship with the federal reserve they don't want to take any chances so they're willing

to say if you don't want us to have the people that were cutting them off. maria: a reanalysis real quickie of the gdp and pce index this week i know consumer confidence has weakened for straight month the second straight month your thoughts on the numbers this week, the market moving? >> the number could come in high estimates for gdp range 2.60 3.2 according to the atlanta fed but again a lot of this reflects the stimulus from government and we want to put into the government hiring and spending and make the transition to a real economy and i think people are feeling the pressure of doing that which underscores doing it quickly, get to the lower taxes and less regulation and regulatory burden agenda. maria: great analysis good to see you, thank you so much. >> thank you. maria: stay with us we'll be

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maria: welcome back president trump's top defense officials meeting at the white house after the plans to build an iron dome american defense system in marco rubio national security advisor michael waltz in pete hegseth

all discussing how to secure the nation and prioritize american interests doge has got to work on cutting wasteful spending karoline leavitt revealed a freeze on $50 million worth of condoms for gaza after the agency flagged it this happening as trump set to meet with benjamin netanyahu in washington the president invited him he will be the first foreign leader to visit the white house and trump second term joining the north carolina congressman pat here again the house armed services committee and a combat decorated green beret that earned two bronze stars serving in afghanistan, thank you for being here and thank you for your service to our country. >> good morning, thank you for having it's great to be here. >> i would like to get your take and what it means for defense spending where you see the need to increase funding specifically within the armed services. >> i think president trump and secretary pete hegseth have been clear the united states of

america needs to match the threats of our adversaries in the capabilities that we develop here at home and deploy abroad. i think this is a necessary response to the emerging technology coming out that threatens us in the homeland and i think they're doing what's putin when you talk about overall defense but didn't think americans need to step back and realize our place in history right now that is our debt to pvp has never been higher since world war ii and simultaneously our defense spending has never been lower since world war ii right now 2.9% over gdp on defense china right now is at seven in russia while it's bill arranging were economy is in an annual surplus and were behind her adversaries and we've got to catch up. maria: i think this is a great point i'm starting to understand if iron dome plan will mean a massive expansion of space and ground-based systems and what

that means for america you make the right point in terms of the debt that we face will total $89 trillion over the next decade tax revenue $68 trillion over the next decade, 76% goes to mandatory programs and interest 24% to discretionary programs is it time to cut into mandatory spending? >> i think of "the bottom line" of been here for three weeks in a small business owner the sub rebuilt the business from a double wide trailer to a hundred thousand square-foot manufacturing facility if you're running the second business we have revenue problems in spending problems both of those need to be addressed connecting the president make commitments and i think you follow through with the commitments to provide pro-growth policies that help get us out of the mess that were currently in simultaneously we've got to cut spending on the

defense side we need to increase it this is where the challenge is going to come in reconciling the two things we are in the reconciliation process but the reality is our defense industrial needs an awful lot of work we become very good at the high cost problem to her enemies low cost solution. until we flip the paradigm we will continue to lose economics over complex. maria: i think it's terrific analysis, look at the navy and the number of ships that they have versus the ships that china has and wanted to get to israel the u.s. sending around 90 patriot missiles from israel to ukraine because the idf that had no use for the older system so the been transferred to poland before arriving in ukraine ukrainian president zelenskyy slammed putin saying he's afraid to negotiate with strong leaders president trump threatened and tariffs that they don't agree to end the war. will this war ever end?

>> i think it's got to end president trump is been very clear about his attention with ending conflict across the globe he cast his inaugural address abroad in bold mission to and conflict the way they were going to do that were to become the strongest nation on earth again in the military will become the most professional most lethal fighting force that's how we deter conflict in conflict if we want to fight we should be weak that's what we did during the biden administration and president trump will not let that happen. maria: what a relief after four years of 0 deterrence to any of her adversaries is unbelievable joe biden socket and did nothing i don't know who is running the country but president trump signed an executive order to reinstate 8000 service members discharge for refusing the coveted vaccine they will be restored to the previous rank while receiving back painful benefits, you introduced a bill banning the pentagon of any

additional covid vaccine mandates without congressional approval. nice work tell us more. >> this is why ted cruz and i filed the americans act we wanted to restore the benefits in the service of the 8400 service members that were wrongfully discharged because of the principal refusal to not take the covid vaccine absolutely unconscionable president trump took this and ran with it we agree encouragement from his executive order the other day reinstating and providing backpay and as she said the most important thing that remains from our bill is taken away the decision-making process from the president and the department of defense inputted into congressman so we got broad consensus of one going into the veins of our troops and we don't make political decisions when it comes to vaccine mandates in the future. maria: a great point, good to see you we will be watching your work. >> thank you maria have a great

day. >> pat here again joining us the china technology to have the emergence of china deepseek is bringing up the same national conservative concerns congress had about tiktok china cannot be trusted platform had a public policy brian morgenstern is here after the break, don't miss it you're watching "mornings with maria" live on fox business. we'll be right back. ♪

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maria: welcome back, china's ali baba releasing a new version of artificial intelligence model in the claims outperforms

competitors such as deepseek and chat gpt u.s. officials are looking at the national security implications of deepseek and whether intellectual-property theft was involved how did you get so strong so fast microsoft and openai investigating whether deepseek improperly obtained data last fall by a group linked to the chinese target deep-sea terms of service showing collects and stores user data and china sparking similar national security concerns leading to the congressional crackdown of tiktok joining me now riot platform had a public policy and former special assistant to president trump brian morgenstern platforms is a digital mining individual company. thank you for being here. >> are to be with you. maria: my first instinct learning that deepseek, i'm not buying it that it's this advance and i'm certainly not buying that it spent $5.6 million to

develop it and now we are more pylon for china with ali baba, your reaction. >> my reaction no coincidence after president trump announced a 500 billion-dollar private sector in a.i. in the united states. i think those numbers are ridiculous i think the excluded prior research and they likely used other models and were able to suck the knowledge out of those to advance themselves that my reaction is twofold number one the u.s. has to take this as a wake-up call it's time to accelerate. under the biden administration for four years it was a top-down command and control regulate first and ask questions later in measure di metrics first user experience and success in accuracy later president trump is saying our opponents are competing whether we like it or

not it's time to unleash american industry but regard to the numbers this strikes me across from china toward president trump after the 500 billion stargate to say we can do anything we can do better but there's no reason to trust the numbers. maria: i think that is spot on i want to get your take why we are constantly on defense when it comes to china why don't we go one offense to stop intellectual-property theft right now china has been stealing intellectual-property from america from decades is costing american businesses hundreds and hundreds of billions of dollars every year why can't we stop it. >> that's what president trump wants you i was at the treasury department at the white house when he was negotiating the deal with china that was the central piece have to treat american companies fairly it cannot be requiring any market entry into

your country to hand over your ip and sign an agreement with the chinese, this party. these will be terms of any future trade agreement and i think president trump is laser focused i know he was his first four years and i expected to be the next four years unfortunately other presidents have not been but it'll be great if he gets back to that. >> is also business what is american business going to understand and put a stop to it and stop putting up the flags in china to sell to the population you have white house a.i. and crypto czar david sachs saint deep-sea shows how the race will be competitive and president trump was right to resubdivide an executive order which hamstrung american a.i. companies without asking whether china would do the same how much of the advancement of deepseek from china is due to bad policy mistakes from joe biden? >> i think it has to be

considered and factored in david sachs has pointed out and i'm glad president trump broadman the instinct was to regulate first and ask questions later they put out the 100 plus page executive order and had meetings with mark injury send you pointed out their attitude was were going to control this market not how can we help you accelerate to succeed and be our adversary. president trump is taking the latter he seen we have to win what you need for me you will get it this is about how information will be consumed in the future and the economy will operate if the u.s. wants to leave after unleash the private sector so the complete shift in attitude and approach is exactly what we need. maria: it's interesting the navy reportedly telling members to avoid using deepseek over potential security and ethical concerns over the origin in the usage by china and openai

announced chat gpt government chat to put together built specifically for government use, your thoughts on the navy saying we don't want to touch deepseek what are the implications for people using deepseek and what about chat gpt coming up with one specifically for government use. >> on the first point david sachs the new a.i. and crypto czar pointed out there is a company called perplexity and others you can use where you can access the deepseek search functions without your data being transmitted to china. i think people should look at that with regard to the u.s. government version of chat gpt it seems it's a separate version to the enterprise version they used words secured separately so would a protector nation secret

i'm hopeful that's true a american company microsoft hopefully we can trust them better than a chinese company that appears to be fudging numbers although it may have created a useful product hopefully the u.s. will catch up fast and we will win this race. maria: let's talk about crypto president trump is bullish on the space prices dropping earlier this week after deepseek to structure the technology stocks your outlook for crypto in the regulation we will see coming out of the trump administration and i assume scott bessent has been confirmed as the nation's treasury secretary and perhaps will get more clarity on what the backdrop looks like. >> i think that's right president trump's executive order is very promising in setting up the working group of his appointees in government in the senior leaders to develop clear rules of the road for digital assets to define securities and commodities and was a collectible to look at stable coins in the digital

asset reserve hopefully a bitcoin strategic reserve these are all a remarkable shift companies like ours in the bitcoin space for example the biden administration spent four years putting us out of business they were trying to de- banquettes and take away our energy access to electricity contracts they were regulating by enforcement was completely top-down command and control and president trump is asking what you need to help succeed because this does seemed like the economy of the future. very excited with the new administration. maria: reduce the growth of your company coming from in the next three years. >> data center infrastructure will be huge whether bitcoin mining or hpc nai this is something that is important in another one of president trump's executive orders related to energy and energy dominant we need data center infrastructure in nuclear and not gas we need power and data centers we will

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now experts say treatment is effective but testing remains crucial to identify the cases before they turn deadly italy deputy prime minister matteo is following president trump's footsteps making moves to leave the world health organization he is claiming an italian taxpayer should not fund what he describes as supranational power saying money should go to italian hospitals instead meanwhile i italian officials are demanding more from that the museum in paris return the mona lisa to italy they argue the museum is in a state of disrepair that da vinci's masterpiece should be moved to milan ahead of the 2026 winter olympics emmanuel macron visited because the report was out how bad things were with leaks and temperature then there was this president trump's immigration crackdown delivering results fox

digital reporting crossings at the southern border have dropped more than 60% in the first week of the new administration new york city raids leading to the arrest of five career criminals including transects of a gang member and in a rural colorado remember the takeover caught on video the residents were terrified we talked about it the issue raised at the white house press briefing this is what happened when the new press secretary karoline leavitt got into it with the reporter over the ice detainment first on the podium watch rc handle this. >> ice arrested 1179 undocumented immigrants on sunday but half of them 566 of migrants appear to know prior under prior record besides entering the country illegally is the president still focused exclusively which is a civil crime not criminal. >> is focused on launching the largest mass deportation in american history of the illegal criminals.

if you are in individual foreign national who illegally enters the united states of america you are by definition a criminal so you are subject to port entry deportation. >> of an ever criminal record versus those in the country illegally. >> all of them they illegally brush broker nations laws and their criminals as farces administration goes, i know the last administration did not see it it's a culture shift to view as someone that breaks it as a criminal but that's exactly what they are. >> we pulled the numbers ice reports 4006 a 50 arrest had been made 3338 detainees lodged between january 21 and yesterday january 28. as of this morning can i give you an example of some of the people that been arrested, corpus christi hundred national aggravated assault deadly weapon, chicago hundred robbery theft, unknown gang member, alida child molestation, new york new jersey migrant arrested aggravated sexual assault child molestation, denver three duis i could go on and on about these people being arrested and what

they had done. maria: it's more than the crimes that they may or may not have committed they are also jumping the line we have a structure in this country we issue 1 million visas every year as we have a structure do it legally. >> i did and it took a lot of work i was a student under student visa i think that you cannot transfer to a work permit and that's when president trump talks about a merit-based immigration process so we can get through the 1.8 million people that right now aren't backlog for h1 these which are the highly skilled workers that many corporations want to hire in many graduated from american universities and a lot of people don't realize for those of us i come to the process there is not an easy way versus showing up at the border in st. louis need asylum we need to shift the paradigm and that's what we need to understand is americans the merit-based immigration will honor and keep those people that

we want to keep to fuel our economy. >> is mind boggling that all of the reporters look to karoline leavitt and said to their previous criminal records. they came across a border illegally that makes them criminals but they did not commit a crime. yes they did they came in illegally. maria: not only that but the whole situation of being undivided the vetting process is incredibly weak at the southern border why did they not understand that. >> to your point about vetting this was in upper manhattan the dominican republican national wanted for double murder in the dr we are shipping them back to face murder charges in his own country. to escape that he comes to america. maria: president trump told us back in 2017, let's get to the weather we've applied look at boston the city getting pounded by snow squall this morning

heard much of the country facing the next cross country winter storm expected to blast millions of americans was no severe weather and flooding stephen morgan with an update. >> they are lined up in boston to decipher the snow squall there dealing with windy conditions, we will wind advisory for new york up into boston. the next term that has our attention we need to pay attention to how this evolves all through the four corners right now. through saturday the system will object out of the two brought west in as it does so it will write to the southern plains into the midwest and eventually the northeast so some of the snow that we see in boston a brief break but then we will get in on another storm that storm could lead to initially rain and then will deal with snow on the backside but the cross-country storm overall, the biggest deal will be what with seeker texas oklahoma and arkansas anywhere from 3 - 5 inches of rain.

we want to get today's foss back trivia question. in 2014 it was known as the snow apocalypse cars were abandoned on highways after big winter storm in what city, the choice of charlotte, st. louis, atlanta or richmond, will have the answer the next hour. maria: thank you stephen morgan, quick break, big hour of "mornings with maria". arkansas senator tom cotton will join in the 8:00 a.m. hour with more of the senate confirmation hearings. you are watching "mornings with maria" live on fox business. stay with us. ♪

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